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Fix Windows Vista’s Fonts!

I’ve been labeled a nitipicker for seeing skipped details that few others seem to see on the surface of an application’s user interface. Guilty as charged! Download this simple registry patch, but please read this entire post before applying it?

I’m not happy that Microsoft has added yet another shell font to the mix with Windows Vista: Segoe UI. On its own, Segoe UI is an awesome font - but when it’s slapped up against Tahoma, MS Sans Serif, Microsoft Sans Serif, and/or Arial - it’s no longer a clean user experience. In fact, Vista is downright messy when it comes to shell fonts - with some aliased faces reaching back to the days of Windows 3.11!

These blatant font oversights were shoved onto the backburner for the sake of (a) 100% backwards compatibility and (b) time. However, that didn’t stop me from diving into REGEDIT and setting things straight. The good news? I believe I’ve figured out how to make everything inside of Windows Vista stick to Segoe UI. It’s a subtle, yet radical, transformation.

There are benefits and drawbacks that come with my font tweaks. The biggest benefit is that most (if not all) of your application fonts will finally be in the same font family. The drawbacks happen to be a matter of perspective.

Text in size-restricted config dialogs may appear tight or truncated, but you will never see Arial, Times New Roman, Microsoft Sans Serif, MS Serif, MS Sans Serif, or Tahoma font faces ever again. I can’t imagine this being a tremendous problem for most people - myself included.

I’ve killed most of the aliased fonts that will ship in Windows Vista - there’s virtually no other (or easier) way to do it other than through this registry patch. Software installers finally conform to a single Segoe UI typeset, Google Earth finally looks clean, and .NET apps finally don’t look any different than other apps on the system - and Web sites that call on Arial (like Google.com) look amazing after this tweak, too. I posted a few before and after screen shots to Flickr.

If you bother to look at the .REG file I’ve compiled, you’ll see that the tweaks are relatively straighforward. I’m essentially redirecting font rendering from fonts I don’t want (Arial, Tahoma, MS Sans Serif, etc.) to a font that I do want (Segoe UI). The essential key is in HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE SOFTWARE Microsoft Windows NT CurrentVersion FontSubstitutes.

I’m releasing this tweak in the hope that others will help me refine it. You should set a System Restore point if you’re feeling gunshy. I’ve applied them safely to my own system, and have bug squished and cross-checked compatibility with both Robert McLaws and Brandon LeBlanc. They were both quite helpful and suffered through countless reboots with me. If you find any other tweaks that should be added to the .REG file, let me know and I’ll incorporate them ASAP.

For further optimization, you might also set your icon font to 8pt (it’s 9pt by default). Right-click the desktop, choose Personalize, click the first “Windows Color and Appearance” option, click the “Open classic appearance properties for more color options” link near the bottom, then click the Advanced button on the “Appearance Settings” dialog, select the “Icon” item, then flip the Size field to “8.” Windows Vista: transparently convoluted!

While my font patch is harmless, I’m not responsible for anything that might happen to your system (or life) if you decide to apply it. I’m sure incompatibilities will spring up, but that’s when I’ll really need your troubleshooting assistance.

I’ll certainly be sharing this information with a few key Microsofties, though I do not expect them to officially incorporate my patch into future builds of Windows. If you don’t even care about the fonts on your screen, then why did you bother to read this far - and what have you got to lose by applying my patch? I simply couldn’t recommend running Windows Vista without it.

Moreover, to all the people who slapped me around for complaining about Vista’s font mayhem: at least I did something about it instead of rolling over and pretending we were past the point of no return. Feh. If only I could fix other visual hiccups - like Vista’s Task Manager, which has 16-color icons and doesn’t ToolTip truncated fields. Maybe SpeedUpMyPC will fix it eventually?

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Chris Pirillo has written a useful little reg hack that allows you to remap all of the fonts used in the Explorer interface to the new Segoe UI font. Make sure you make a backup of your registry before trying this one! Chris Pirillo’s blog Title: Fix Windows Vista Fonts Author: Steve Sinchak Tags: Fonts

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Ignore the idiots blasting you for telling the truth. You are right, and let’s be honest, Microsoft and great UIs don’t exactly go hand in hand.

Simple and effective fix. Makes you think why no one thought of it sooner. :)

[...] Valakinek nem tetszett, hogy a Vistában az új Segoe font mellet még ezerféle mást is használnak az appok, emiatt nem egységesek, ezért hekkelt egy reg patch-et, ami átirányít pár régi fontot (Arial, Tahoma, stb.) az újra. Ami engem az egészből érdekel hogy csinálja? [...]

decided to do something about it. He created a registry patch that redirects system calls to legacy fonts (Tahoma, Arial, Times New Roman, etc) to Vista’s Segoe UI. It has a pretty nice effect on all of your installed applications:

DISCLAIMER: Proceed at your own risk. Chris finally put his money where his mouth is. He’s been unhappy with Vista’s inconsistency issues for ages. So he decided to do something about it. He created a registry patch that redirects system calls to legacy fonts (Tahoma, Arial, Times New Roman, etc) to Vista’s Segoe UI. It has a pretty nice effect on all of your installed applications:

Ultra **** update, and i mst say if they’d fix small things like this and the task manager tooltips things would be so much more consistent and happy

I’ve got a new acronym for you: GAFA.

GET A F*CKIN’ APPLE!

I think it would make you feel better. :)

Great idea, Chris. However, why not redirect the fonts to a modified version of Segoe that exactly mimics the proportions of the other fonts, like a Segoe UI (Tahoma) and a Segoe UI (MS Sans Serif)? That would make the transformation bug-free (and is exactly what I suggested to Microsoft months ago).

Umm, this is nice and all and I am sure it works well. But what is this about 16 bit icons in Task Manager? First, it is still in a testing phase, lets let them continue polishing the OS as they have build after build. You really think they care about icons right now? Second, if you are any kind of user, you would know that Task Manager is a piece of trash and not worth its disk space. Process Explorer, by far, the most advanced process manager.

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seeing skipped details that few others seem to see on the surface of an application’s user interface. Guilty as charged! Download this simple registry patch, but please read this entire post at source before applying it!” [IMG] News Source: chris.pirillo.com

the fact is if microsoft refuses to get 100% behind their new better font, then i supposed shoe horning it ourself is the only way, especially considering how much better everything looks when your in Segoe vs a bunch of un-uniform fonts. Source: Chris Pirillo [IMG]

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[...] Chris Pirillo figured out that by tweaking a few registry keys, he could fix the parts of Windows (and third-party applications) that eroneously call on Arial, MS Sans Serif and Tahoma, when they should be using new Vista standard font Segoe UI. Segoe looks similar to, yet considerably better than all of those, with cleaner curves, anti-aliasing, and overall improved readability, yet Microsoft has not taken the necessary steps to replace the old fonts with the new. [...]

Cool. Just curious, under HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\FontMapper\FamilyDefaults
why didn’t you set the default to Segoe UI? (@=”Segoe UI”)

Pick all the nits you can find. With any major software, there comes a point where it’s clear that bugs need to be triaged. They won’t all get fixed in time to ship. Fit and Finish details usually drop down to lower priority in favor of functioal bugs. That’s understandable. Probably the right choice. But everyone who cares about fit and finish needs to raise their hands and their voices.

The developers need to hear it. Software management needs to hear it. Users who care about fit and finish need champions who can get attention.

Single best improved of this trick…. Media Player in taskbar mode, hover over and the track, artist, and album info looks puuuuurrrrrrtttttttyyy…..

Thanks.

PS F*ck dem haterz….

[...] Chris Pirillo devised a tweak to Vista that will fix the font inconsistencies seen across the operating system. This has been one of his complaints on the Vista UI that he was pushing Microsoft to fix. He instead took matters into his own hands! Read his post and grab the registry patch. [...]

[...] http://chris.pirillo.com/2006/09/26/fix-windows-vistas-fonts/his registry hack fixes all inconsitent fonts in Vista and calls on Segoe UI for universal appeal.  Chris says he will discuss this with his high-level contacts @ MS - can anyone from MS comment on this issue? installing this as we speak…  http://www.sonicflare.comwww.positive-feedback.com [...]

[...] It’s really a peace of cake. Dowload this registry patch, and BAM instant consistent fonts. I’m not happy that Microsoft has added yet another shell font to the mix with Windows Vista: Segoe UI. On its own, Segoe UI is an awesome font - but when it’s slapped up against Tahoma, MS Sans Serif, Microsoft Sans Serif, and/or Arial - it’s no longer a clean user experience. In fact, Vista is downright messy when it comes to shell fonts - with some aliased faces reaching back to the days of Windows 3.11! Source: Chris Pirillo [...]

May I suggest you redirect Comic Sans MS as well with this patch? Would make the people of bancomicsans.com a lot happier :-)

[...] I’ve noticed, like Chris Pirillo has that Vista has some issues when it comes to font usage. [...]

Fix Windows Vista’s Fonts!

[...] Events Fix Windows Vista Fonts Posted by Steven Parker on 27 September 2006 - 11:48 · 3 comments, 145 views & 1 trackbacks This just in from Chris Pirillo on Windows Vista inconsistency’s, this time it’s the fonts:I’ve been labeled a nitipicker for seeing skipped details that few others seem to see on the surface of an application’s user interface. Guilty as charged! Download this simple registry patch, but please read the entire post before applying it?I’m not happy that Microsoft has added yet another shell font to the mix with Windows Vista: Segoe UI. On its own, Segoe UI is an awesome font - but when it’s slapped up against Tahoma, MS Sans Serif, Microsoft Sans Serif, and/or Arial - it’s no longer a clean user experience. In fact, Vista is downright messy when it comes to shell fonts - with some aliased faces reaching back to the days of Windows 3.11!These blatant font oversights were shoved onto the backburner for the sake of (a) 100% backwards compatibility and (b) time. However, that didn’t stop me from diving into REGEDIT and setting things straight. The good news? I believe I’ve figured out how to make everything inside of Windows Vista stick to Segoe UI. It’s a subtle, yet radical, transformation. Download: Segoe UI Registry Patch (for Windows Vista) View: Full Article @ Chris Pirillio.com Contact Steven Parker or view all of this author’s submissions · Normal View · Headline View         0 Ads_kid=0;Ads_bid=0;Ads_xl=728;Ads_yl=90;Ads_xp=”;Ads_yp=”;Ads_xp1=”;Ads_yp1=”;Ads_opt=0;Ads_wrd=’[KeyWord]‘;Ads_par=”;Ads_cnturl=”; Post a comment · Send to friend There are 3 additional comments [...]

DISCLAIMER: Proceed at your own risk. Chris finally put his money where his mouth is. He’s been unhappy with Vista’s inconsistency issues for ages. So he decided to do something about it. He created a registry patch that redirects system calls to legacy fonts (Tahoma, Arial, Times New Roman, etc) to Vista’s Segoe UI. It has a pretty nice effect on all of your installed applications:

There are settings in Windows that allow you to change the fonts the correct way. This hack does nothing but totally screw things up.

[...] Fix Windows Vista’s Fonts! Source: Chris Pirillo’s Blog Download: Registry Patch _________ I’ve been labeled a nitipicker for seeing skipped details that few others seem to see on the surface of an application’s user interface. Guilty as charged! Download this simple registry patch, but please read this entire post before applying it? I’m not happy that Microsoft has added yet another shell font to the mix with Windows Vista: Segoe UI. On its own, Segoe UI is an awesome font - but when it’s slapped up against Tahoma, MS Sans Serif, Microsoft Sans Serif, and/or Arial - it’s no longer a clean user experience. In fact, Vista is downright messy when it comes to shell fonts - with some aliased faces reaching back to the days of Windows 3.11! __________________ <Please submit news here> [...]

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Oy Vey. Firefox now reads all webpage fonts with Segoe UI instead of their defaults! is there any way to fix that?

Hi Chris!

I have not followed these topics here closely but just wanted to comment that IMO bigger problem with these font inconsistencies is that if you want to scale your UI fonts to, say 110%, these old MS Sans Serif dialogs will NOT scale at all! That means if you have 1600×1200 resolution with LCD and want to make text a bit larger by scaling fonts, then half of UI will still use very small font and only these that use Tahoma or Segue will look correct.

BTW, the font inconsistency was one of the first things I noticed in Vista, so I also think it is very important. Microsoft spends huge amount of resources to make all these bells and whistles but has no time for some basic stuff — sad indeed.

[...] Fix Windows Vista’s Fonts! I think they’re fine but Pirillo has a real problem with them. I’ve been labeled a nitipicker for seeing skipped details that few others seem to see on the surface of an application’s user interface. Guilty as charged! Download this simple registry patch, but please read this entire post before applying it? I’m not happy that Microsoft has added yet another shell font to the mix with Windows Vista: Segoe UI. On its own, Segoe UI is an awesome font - but when it’s slapped up against Tahoma, MS Sans Serif, Microsoft Sans Serif, and/or Arial - it’s no longer a clean user experience. In fact, Vista is downright messy when it comes to shell fonts - with some aliased faces reaching back to the days of Windows 3.11! - chris.pirillo.com __________________ Digital Dave digital@winxpcentral.com 2004/2005/2006 Microsoft MVP [...]

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[...] There is a registy patch out here. Which changes all the fonts used in vista to Segoe UI. [...]

The guy who took the picture is a real morron. How the hell you wana compare correctly the BEFORE / AFTER if they are both totaly diffrent. Cmon use your brain next time!

This patch seem to be buggy for many people by reading comments and Segui or whatever it is called, isn’t my favorite font so I won’t force everything to use it…

Chris, have you tried entering RGB values for a colour in a standard colour selection dialog? (e.g. Colours menu > Edit Colours, in Paint)
Perhaps it’s something else I’ve done, but since applying the reg patch, I can only enter two numbers for any of the RGB/HSL values. Yikes! Presumably this is why MS likes inconsistency. It means they don’t have to update dialog boxes that date back to 1995.

Any chance of a fix for this?

I’ installed the vista look on my Xp Machine, and as soon as I’ notice the font style, I’ took it out and decided to not buy the new OS, but now with this patch I’ may reconsider.

Rus,

This is indeed an issue caused by changing the font to Segoe UI. However, if you use Resource Hacker (www.angusj.com/resourcehacker/), you can fix this.

Open up \WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\COMDLG32.DLL in Resource Hacker and go to Dialog –> CHOOSECOLOR. Resize the 6 text boxes so they’re a bit wider, then choose Compile Script.

Save the file in another location, then overwrite the original file (I do this by booting into another OS, because it’s seemingly always in use under the current OS).

If some sort of system update replaces COMDLG32.DLL, you’ll have to make that change again.

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user interface. Guilty as charged! Download this simple registry patch, but please read this entire post before applying it? I’m not happy that Microsoft has added yet another shell font to the mix with Windows Vista: Segoe …Chris Pirillo read more [Technorati - User Experience]

tenthousandwaves

October 3rd, 2006
at 6:43pm

A nice patch, but how about making the default registry settings available so that people (duh, like me) who didn’t back up their registries can undo the changes if they need to? I’d really appreciate it if you could post an “defaultfonts.reg” patch here. Many thanks!

Chris,

Do you happen to have a reg patch to reverse this?

[...] Chris Pirillo has been a long time advocate for a consistent UI. He can spot even the smallest inconstancy in fonts between windows menus and applications. Vista has been a thorn in his side for a while and MS hasn’t listened to him (so far). So he’s taken it upon himself to hack into the registry and build a reg file to run to fix all the font substitutions and make them consistent on Vista’s new ‘Segoe UI’ true type font.Have a look through his whole article and proceed with caution. I’ve applied the patch and it is pretty nice. Things will look a little different, especially sites like Google (and gmail) that call on Arial since these sites will now show Segoe UI. I think it’s an easier font to read.Chris Pirillo: Fix Windows Vista’s Fonts!Here is the reg file: VistaFontFix.zipTags: microsoft, windows, vista, fonts, pirillo, fix, help, registry, hack, segoe, true type [...]

tenthousandwaves

October 5th, 2006
at 1:36pm

Can anyone point me in the direction of a reg patch to reverse this?

Would really appreciate an undo patch. Chris?

I created a little ‘go back’ registry patch. You can find it here:
http://www.techlifeweb.com/vista/2006/10/reverse-vista-font-fix.html

Just a quick note, but this also works on XP and actually makes that look pretty good too :)

Chris is right though - it makes some web sites look fantastic and I much prefer the overall cleaner look of the system.

[...] Chris Pirillo has noticed that the fonts usage in the Windows Vista user interface is inconsistent, with old and new, jagged and smooth fonts being jumbled together. He has posted a ‘Font Fix’ Registry Patch which makes Windows Vista use its smooth new Segoe UI font in all cases. Read the details of his patch first before deciding whether to apply it, and make sure to set a restore point beforehand as well. [...]

[...] Originally Posted by EvilNando the aero theme is neat , has a very modern feeling but I have the sensation that its 3d mode is using something like antialiasing x2 the fonts are a little blurred Ask and ye shall recieve… http://chris.pirillo.com/2006/09/26…s-vistas-fonts/ It might help. I know on mine that made a tremendous difference and brings the entire GUI into a more streamlined and simply look: It all uses the SegoeUI font when that Reg hack is applied. Wish it came that way from Microsoft but I guess they had so much going on it was something that just slipped by. Anyway, give that a shot, it might help - but then again, it might not. YMMV. [...]

Thanks Chris for the patch. It looks great. :) Some websites took a little getting used to, but overall I love it. Thanks again!

[...] http://www.microsoft.com/hun/technet/default.aspx?article=f251fe91-70b8-49e5-af5e-3ab6135bdd54 említettem, november közepe-vége óta muzsikál a laptopomon a Vista RTM. Csont nélkül működik, kissé hmmm, fáradtnak tűnik idÅ‘nként a Network Awareness, azaz lassan építi/ismeri fel a hálózati kapcsolatokat (tipikusan a WLAN kapcsolatokat), pedig már megtettem az Automatic Performance Tuning ki-/bekapcsolás próbát is Riley módra), de más gond abszolút nincs, mennek az alkalmazások, pörög a VGA (nem úgy mint itt :D), 1280*800-ban szép az élet. Ofkorz, Office 2007 is van, kissé nem találok meg benne semmit, de az új eszköztár praktikusnak praktikus, kinézetben és funkcionalitásban egyaránt és az egész csomagra igaz ez. Igazából az Outlook RTM-ben nekem nincs semmi újdonság, május óta ezt használom és eléggé megkedveltem már (elÅ‘tte nem használtam Outlook-ot, soha, semmilyet). 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MicroDVD Player, TC, brühühü :( ) tökéletesen mennek, kb. 3 óra alatt újra a megszokott környezetben vágom a fát (ebben benne van a 100GB-nyi cucc átmásolása immár a GUI-n is) , örülök, már majdnem kisüt a szivárvány, újramohásodnak a kerítésoszlopok, megszólalnak a sárgarigó daemon-ok, de… de mintha nem látnám rendesen a monitort, vagy valami hasonló érzés kerülget és szúr pre-jegezett RAM modulokat a szívem elsÅ‘körös tűzfalába. Nahát szép halál, a gép elÅ‘tt inkább, mint zsírpárnák között, na de nem, nincs errÅ‘l szó, tényleg nem látom, pedig élek.1280*1024*32, ugyanaz a VGA kártya, ugyanaz az a 17"-es TFT, még az asztalon se toltam odébb, egy kicsit se. Eddig a Classic sémával XP-n (kissé konzervatív vagyok, nna), tökéletes volt. Most kissebb minden, de úgy tűnik, mégse minden, néhány helyen változott a szövegméret, néhány helyen meg nem. Iszonyúan néz ki. Indítom a Word-t, Powerpointot, Photoshop-ot, FireFox-ot OK, indítom az IE-t, MSN-t, FeedDemon-t, nem OK. Indítom az Outlookot, és sírok. Még kisebbek a fontok. Nem a headerek sora, nem az üzenetablak (ezek fontméretét amúgy is állíthatom, igaz csak mappánként?), hanem a baloldali keretben a mappák ikonjai és nevei. A mappalistám eddig leért az ablak aljáig, most jó ha a feléig. A FeedDemonban ("az" RSS olvasó :D) ugyanígy, a balodali keretben a mappák törpék és olvashatatlanok, a másik két frame-ben meg Gulliverek. Mindez az amúgy esztétikailag gyönyörű Aero témával, ami most, hogy az RTM-re kicserélték az alap hátteret, egészen elviselhetÅ‘ lett ebbÅ‘l a szempontból is (a béták alatt kissé sok idÅ‘t töltöttem mindig az életvitelemnek és a koromnak megfelelÅ‘, napszemüveg nélkül is élvezhetÅ‘ háttér kiválasztásával). Na jó essünk neki, nincs Google, nincs MSN Search, in medias res nézzük a témaváltást a Classic témara. Váltás van, változás nincs. Más témák? Tökmind1. Na jó, jöjjenek a részletek, menjünk bele az ikon, az ablakfejléc, a menüelemek betűtípusának és nagyságának megváltoztatásába. Nagyjából egy családi ebéd lepereghetne amíg megtalálom azt a helyet, ahol ezek a részletek vannak, iszonyúan eldugták, de csak megvan. Az alapérték a Segoe UI, 9 ponttal. Változtatok minden irányban, mindent, de nem javul a helyzet. Az arányok megmaradnak, ha jó a Desktop, a Start menü, az Explorer font mérete, akkor nem jo az Outlook, az MSN Messenger és a FeedDemon és vice versa. Ã…Â?rület. De van még fegyverem, elÅ‘re! DPI beállítások! Hmmm, nem fegyver ez, hanem életlen vizipisztoly, a helyzet ua., pontosabban rosszabb, mert minden változtatás restartot igényel. Jesszus. Nem vagyok fejlesztÅ‘, nem látok bele mélyen, de ha a TCP/IP stack komplett resetjéhez, vagy az Active Directory szervizéhez nem kell restart, akkor ehhez miért, miért, miért??? Mind1, a DPI korrekció sem segít, az aránytalanság megmarad. Szinmélység, képfrissítési frekvencia, vizuális elemek elvétele, hozzáadása - szánalmas, megkeseredett próbálkozások, melyeknek zéró eredménye van.Beugrik vmi, itt olvastam, hogy a béta korszakban volt már egy "font bábel" észrevétel, és ennek eredménye lett egy registry variálás. Kipróbálom, de nem szán meg a PC isten, annyi eredménye van, hogy mostmár ha a téma részleteként változtatok egy adott elem betűtípusán, akkor is a Segoe IU marad végeredményben :)Közelítsük meg a másik oldaláról a dolgot. Az Outlook mappalista ikon/betű méretváltozasát hogyan lehet megoldani? Sehogy. Legalábbis én nem találok rá megoldást, sem a beállítások között, sem vmi parancsssori kapcsolóval, sem máshogy. Az internet csendben van ezzel kapcsolatban - igen ritka élmény ez -, azaz nem segít. Legalábbis eddig, de még nem adtam fel…Közelítsük meg még máshogy a dolgot. Lehet hogy kicsi a monitorom ehhez a felbontáshoz? De ha visszaveszem a katódsugárcsöves 17-es csúcsmonitorom felbontására (1152*864), akkor az egész kép gáz, látszik, ha ennél a TFT-nél nem ez az ajánlott. Vegyek 19-est? Azt azért nem, illetve ezért még nem. Viszont kölcsönkérek egyet az állandó "szállítómtól" :D, ráadásul egy nem is akármilyen példányt kapok, hanem egy csodadarabot (az ilyen esetben egyébként az a probléma, hogy mint aktív hardverspirál résztvevÅ‘, nyomban meg is akarom venni, úgyhogy szívesen kölcsönadnak szinte nyomban bármit nekem). Waooo, forgatható 90 fokban, mozog a kép automatice, és borzasztó jó a kép, 16:9-es, színes-szagos, de az eredmény majdnem ua. Kicsit jobb, de az látszik hogy nem ez a probléma igazi oka. De azért a monitor kell :)Nos, nagyjából ennyi a történet eddig, van még egy-két kevésébé érdekes mellékfonal, hiszen lassan vagy másfél hete ezzel szuttyogok a nemlétezÅ‘ ráérÅ‘ idÅ‘mben (mondhatnám, hogy ezért nem írok, de nem mondom :D), eredmény nélkül. Ötleteket, tippeket viszont szívesen elfogadok, sÅ‘t le is írom szívesen, ha beválik :) ]]> Vista Windows Vista Office 2007 modul http://www.microsoft.com/hun/technet/default.aspx?article=f251fe91-70b8-49e5-af5e-3ab6135bdd54 [...]

[...] Wednesday, November 15, 2006 The font geek in me is so obsessed with Microsoft’s latest gem, Segoe UI (and I don’t even have Vista).One thing I discovered is that Segoe UI is actually optimized for 9pt, not 8pt. Windows Vista seems to use 9pt as the default font for practically everything. I can see why. Segoe UI 9pt with Cleartype is razor sharp. It’s better than Tahoma and Arial by miles.Then there’s this page, which describes how to use a registry patch to alias most of the commonly used UI fonts (Arial, Tahoma) to Segoe UI. The net result is that after applying the patch, every instance of Arial and Tahoma becomes Segoe UI. This makes a drastic change and almost makes your XP feel like a new operating system. [...]

[...] So i had to reinstall Windows on Firebat. Once i installed it i was immediately disgusted with Tahoma, MS Sans Serif, and the other old windows fonts. I began to investigate replacing those fonts with something a little more open source. I came across Chris Pirillo’s little registry fix to alter all his Vista fonts to Segoe UI. So i did a little hack to alter those fonts to DejaVu Sans.First grab and install DejaVu for windowsThrow this into a .reg file and open it up and it will merge into your registry[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINESOFTWAREMicrosoftWindows NTCurrentVersionFontSubstitutes]“MS Shell Dlg 2″=”DejaVu Sans”"MS Shell Dlg”=”DejaVu Sans”"Helv”=”DejaVu Sans”"MS Sans Serif 8,10,12,14,18,24″=”DejaVu Sans”"MS Serif 8,10,12,14,18,24″=”DejaVu Sans”"MS Sans Serif”=”DejaVu Sans”"System”=”DejaVu Sans”"Microsoft Sans Serif”=”DejaVu Sans”"Tahoma”=”DejaVu Sans”"MS Serif”=”DejaVu Sans”"Times New Roman”=”DejaVu Sans”"Times”=”DejaVu Sans”"Small Fonts”=”DejaVu Sans”"Tms Rmn”=”DejaVu Sans”"Arial”=”DejaVu Sans”[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINESOFTWAREMicrosoftWindows NTCurrentVersionFonts]“Arial (TrueType)”=”DejaVuSans.ttf”"Arial Italic (TrueType)”=”DejaVuSans-Oblique.ttf”"Arial Bold (TrueType)”=”DejaVuSans-Bold.ttf”"Arial Bold Italic (TrueType)”=”DejaVuSans-BoldOblique.ttf”"Times New Roman (TrueType)”=”DejaVuSans.ttf”"Times New Roman Italic (TrueType)”=”DejaVuSans-Oblique.ttf”"Times New Roman Bold (TrueType)”=”DejaVuSans-Bold.ttf”"Times New Roman Bold Italic (TrueType)”=”DejaVuSans-BoldOblique.ttf”"Tahoma (TrueType)”=”DejaVuSans.ttf”"Tahoma Bold (TrueType)”=”DejaVuSans-Oblique.ttf”"Microsoft Sans Serif (TrueType)”=”DejaVuSans.ttf”"MS Sans Serif 8,10,12,14,18,24 (VGA res)”=”DejaVuSans.ttf”"MS Serif 8,10,12,14,18,24 (VGA res)”=”DejaVuSans.ttf”[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOTLocal SettingsSoftwareMicrosoftWindowsShellMuiCache]“@themeui.dll,-2037″=”{DejaVu Sans, 8 pt}”"@themeui.dll,-2038″=”{DejaVu Sans, 8 pt}”"@themeui.dll,-2039″=”{DejaVu Sans, 8 pt}”"@themeui.dll,-2040″=”{DejaVu Sans, 8 pt}”"@themeui.dll,-2041″=”{DejaVu Sans, 8 pt}”"@themeui.dll,-2042″=”{DejaVu Sans, 8 pt}”[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINESOFTWAREMicrosoftWindows NTCurrentVersionFontMapperFamilyDefaults]“Swiss”=”DejaVu Sans”"Roman”=”DejaVu Sans”Restart and you too can be free of Microsoft fonts! [...]

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[...] Chris Pirillo originally published a script to make consistent use of Segoe UI in Vista. You can get it here:http://chris.pirillo.com/2006/09/26/fix-windows-vistas-fonts/I changed all references in his script from Segoe UI to Comic Sans MS and added the following:In [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINESOFTWAREMicrosoftWindows NTCurrentVersionFontSubstitutes]I added:"Segoe UI"="Comic Sans MS"and in [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINESOFTWAREMicrosoftWindows NTCurrentVersionFonts]I added:"Segoe UI (TrueType)"="comic.ttf""Segoe UI Italic (TrueType)"="comici.ttf""Segoe UI Bold (TrueType)"="comicbd.ttf""Segoe UI Bold Italic (TrueType)"="comicz.ttf" [...]

[...] Oisko tästä patchista apua ongelmaan? [...]

how to rollback this font change?

My god, how much hoopla over fonts not all matching?

I happen to enjoy the differences in look and feel between apps. Would you want all cars to be blue and all restaurants to be Taco Bell?

-Noel

I’d actually like to do the opposite. I don’t like Segoe at all, and have used the appearance part of the control panel (used to be in desktop properties on XP) to change it back to size 8 Tahoma wherever possible.

While I’ll attempt to edit this registry patch later to get the results I want, can anybody help me along by posting a patch that would let you turn any instances of Segoe into either Arial (I assume this would look better in the larger title bars) or Tahoma (for general system text, like in dialogue boxes)?

I’m quite disappointed that Vista has no easy way to do this. Even if you disable Cleartype, which I dislike immensely, it still appears all over the place with Segoe. I prefer the crisper look of XP-style rendering.

I like the font fix, but remapping the fonts used in Office (Times New Roman and Arial primarily) really doesn’t look all that good. Besides that change, I really like the new look that Vista has now.

Hi Chris,

Will you post the reverse patch as well? I like how the applications look now, but what I don’t like is how it affects the layout of certain web sites. Some web sites are designed to look good when using a certain font and absolutely suck after I changed the font mapping.

Thanks.

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