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  OC'ing AMD Barton 2500+ / MSI K7N2 Delta-ILSR / 512 MB PC3200 DDR 
 
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Sean Kendle Sep 13, 2003, 02:51pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Setup:

Barton 2500+ @1.8 GHz default
MSI K7N2 Delta-ILSR
512MB Crucial PC3200 DDR
256MB GeForce FX 5600

Ok, I went into BIOS and the CPU FSB Clock is set at 200. I'm not sure if that was the original setting or if I put it that way, but it seems highly unstable. All my 3d games lock up after about 10-20 minutes of play.

My BIOS, the program that came with the mobo and Aida 32 all agree that my system is around 41-43C so I don't think it's a heat problem.

Please any suggestions on how to get this thing to be quick, but stable!!

Sean Kendle



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jake Sep 13, 2003, 03:08pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: OC'ing AMD Barton 2500 / MSI K7N2 Delta-ILSR / 512 MB PC3200 DDR
the default setting for the 2500+ is 166MHz fsb, people have got it up to 200 by increasing the voltage to 1.75V.
i recomend you set it to 166MHz and set the multplier to 12.5.

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Sean Kendle Sep 13, 2003, 03:35pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: OC'ing AMD Barton 2500 / MSI K7N2 Delta-ILSR / 512 MB PC3200 DDR
What does that mean? the multiplier? I haven't a clue about OC'ing... total OC n00b cause my previous setups weren't worth the risk. Now I have a quality setup and want speed and stability.... I want my cake and I'm damn well going to eat it too!

So more explanation would be very much appreciated!

Also, what is an FSB Spread spectrum? The settings are .5% and 1.0% I believe...

Thanks!

Sean Kendle Sep 13, 2003, 03:39pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: OC'ing AMD Barton 2500 / MSI K7N2 Delta-ILSR / 512 MB PC3200 DDR
Also, someone said something to me before about my memory ratio... currently it's set to "By SPD" like most of my settings... should I change it or leave it alone? Is there a science to it or just trial and error?


jake Sep 13, 2003, 03:39pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: OC'ing AMD Barton 2500 / MSI K7N2 Delta-ILSR / 512 MB PC3200 DDR
sorry, if i where you i would set the CPU FSB clock to 166, then read everything can find about overclocking. do a google search, read some threads in the oc'ing section here, etc...

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Sean Kendle Sep 13, 2003, 03:43pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: OC'ing AMD Barton 2500 / MSI K7N2 Delta-ILSR / 512 MB PC3200 DDR
I'm just flipping through my manual and finding more things to ask about... here's another...

There is a setting for AGP clock control. I can key in between 66 and 120. It also has a voltage adjust setting, I'm guessing for use when OC'ing. Should i attempt an OC? Or leave it alone?

Col Sep 13, 2003, 04:00pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: OC'ing AMD Barton 2500 / MSI K7N2 Delta-ILSR / 512 MB PC3200 DDR
The most I have got out of My 2500 at a stable rate is 11*200 (3200+) but you will be better to change the Processor Multiplier to 10*200 at first and work up.

There should be several settings that you can change but initially you only need to change the one setting (It will have a value of 11 I think)

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Sean Kendle Sep 13, 2003, 06:20pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: OC'ing AMD Barton 2500 / MSI K7N2 Delta-ILSR / 512 MB PC3200 DDR
Ok did some research and figured some things out. Here's what I'm set at now:

Set my multiplier to 10 and FSB to 200 which puts me at a solid 2.00 GHz @ 1.75V. Seems stable enough so far.

Temps at idle hovering around 41C (106F)

My memory is at 7:3:3:2.5 - going to try lower next.

Should I change the speed of my graphics card? The clock is at 66 now, max is 120... should I go small increments or just throw it up 20 or so?

Did a 3dMark03 on my comp, only got a score of like 599!??! Isn't that horribly low?

Any other suggestions? Should I overclock the FSB above 200 or isn't it worth the risk for the performance increase?

Sean Kendle Sep 13, 2003, 06:21pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: OC'ing AMD Barton 2500 / MSI K7N2 Delta-ILSR / 512 MB PC3200 DDR
One more thing, what is the memory ratio and should I mess with it?

ray Stephens Sep 13, 2003, 06:44pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: OC'ing AMD Barton 2500 / MSI K7N2 Delta-ILSR / 512 MB PC3200 DDR
Woah! Sean... slow down... Ok...

First...You said you have it set to 10 X 200 at 1.75V. Have you tried 10 X 200 at 1.65V? You only need to raise your V-Core if it is unstable, and then ONLY in increments of 0.025V, not a whole 0.1V! Then try 10.5 and see if that is good. When you were at 11 you crashed games because it was unstable. A slight V-Core increase will solve this... Just watch your heat.

Second...FSB Spread spectrum... leave it at default levels for now.

Third...Memory Ratio is set to By SPD. By switching this to User Defined you will be able to adjust you Latency timings, currently set to 7-3-3-2.5. I'd bet you could run it at 6-2-2-2. Try it and see.

Fourth...AGP clock control. Leave it at default levels. Overclocking your video card is done with your OS and drivers, not through the bios!

Fifth...3dMark03 score of 599. That is horribly low. I'd expect at least 4,000. Check your drivers and make sure you have the latest from the nVidia Website. http://www.nvidia.com/object/winxp-2k_45.23


...Any other question?

Sean Kendle Sep 18, 2003, 01:01pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: OC'ing AMD Barton 2500 / MSI K7N2 Delta-ILSR / 512 MB PC3200 DDR
Dammit. This is terrible, why in hell is my computer running like a 486!?

I flashed BIOS and haven't yet reset my OC'd settings... ran 3dMark01 and got a 2010!?!?!?!

Christ!

Someone please tell me what is wrong! All of my drivers are up to date.... why why why!?


Sean Kendle Sep 18, 2003, 02:54pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: OC'ing AMD Barton 2500 / MSI K7N2 Delta-ILSR / 512 MB PC3200 DDR
Ok, I figured out some of the problem. My video card was set to 2D acceleration! I set the Core Clock to 351mhz and the Memory Clock to 433mhz. Should I try to tweak it higher?

Max is 540 and 960 respectively.

ray Stephens Sep 18, 2003, 04:29pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: OC'ing AMD Barton 2500 / MSI K7N2 Delta-ILSR / 512 MB PC3200 DDR
Did you do anything in my last reply?

Sean Kendle Sep 18, 2003, 05:11pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: OC'ing AMD Barton 2500 / MSI K7N2 Delta-ILSR / 512 MB PC3200 DDR
I updated all drivers and my bios since that reply. The BIOS reset so I set it to 200Mhz FSB and 10.5 multiplier. It seems stable through benchmark. I have the Voltage on auto...is that dangerous? Idle temp and voltage are 108F (CPU) and 1.6 V.

Don't know if I want to increase, I like to have stability over speed.

I also OC'd the video card through windows to 324/428... that's the highest level that remains stable, or so it seems.

I've got a score of 1645 now. Still seems damn low, but much better than before.

Memory at 6-2-2-2.0 - think I'm getting away with it so far.

Also, my slider for performance/quality on my vid card is in the middle (Performance)

ray Stephens Sep 18, 2003, 05:58pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: OC'ing AMD Barton 2500 / MSI K7N2 Delta-ILSR / 512 MB PC3200 DDR
Auto is ok, but I would set it manually to 1.65V.

Wow, looks like your system is running well, 10.5X200 and 6-2-2-2... lucky!

Fredrick Tsang Nov 01, 2004, 02:26am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: OC'ing AMD Barton 2500 / MSI K7N2 Delta-ILSR / 512 MB PC3200 DDR
what i set as my ram timings for my nforce2 mobo is 10-2-2-2 because when i set it at around 10-11 i get a 2.4-2.5% increase of memory bandwidth. and how on earth do u change your ratio, i thought that the bartons now are all locked.


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