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Jose Garcia Oct 08, 2003, 02:02pm EDT Report Abuse
For 10 years now I have breathed and worked in the computer industry. Throughout this time I have come to know SiS through their third rate products such as Video cards, motherboard chipsets and more. I never bothered looking into this company because of their third rate products. It's no wonder that I was surprised to find out that SiS is a large manufacturer of semiconductors & LEADER? I have yet to see the proof. Not only this, but they tout that they have the fastest chipset out for the P4. If this new product is anything like their past, watch out.Anyone have any opinions on this besides me?


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Shadow_Ops_Airman1 Oct 08, 2003, 09:35pm EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: Re: SiS
Eh I think Intel Should Re Adopt the Rambus Standard Since They Have the P4 HTs with Built in Level 3 cache now, Those New P4s are just a Apatizer until the 64BIT P4s Come Out Which i think will integrate HT at 800 MHZ or even Higher Now, and the PAT increases speed while keeping stable. They Have the Itanium but i wouldnt consider that a Major 64Bit Processor for the Home, Hmm I Wonder if the XEON will soon become XEON 2.

AMD Athlon XP-M 2500+ (133x14= 1867MHz) (209x11= 2299MHz)
DFI LP NF2 Ultra-B (Hellfire 3EG Rev2)
Antec SX800, Neo HE 500, 4 Antec 8CM Fans
Thermalright SI-97 1 Antec Tricool 12CM Fan
CL SB XFi Xtreme Music
2x Barracuda HDs (250/400)
2x Samsung Write
Shadow_Ops_Airman1 Oct 08, 2003, 09:36pm EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: Re: SiS
One Thing that is True They Do Have 3rd Rate Chipsets like the standard SIS 648.

AMD Athlon XP-M 2500+ (133x14= 1867MHz) (209x11= 2299MHz)
DFI LP NF2 Ultra-B (Hellfire 3EG Rev2)
Antec SX800, Neo HE 500, 4 Antec 8CM Fans
Thermalright SI-97 1 Antec Tricool 12CM Fan
CL SB XFi Xtreme Music
2x Barracuda HDs (250/400)
2x Samsung Write
Shadow_Ops_Airman1 Oct 08, 2003, 09:38pm EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: Re: SiS
The First post was a Prediction of the Step Of Action, that isnt factuall Yet Until Intel Releases News about what they are doing after the P4 HT SE,(P4 HT with L3)

AMD Athlon XP-M 2500+ (133x14= 1867MHz) (209x11= 2299MHz)
DFI LP NF2 Ultra-B (Hellfire 3EG Rev2)
Antec SX800, Neo HE 500, 4 Antec 8CM Fans
Thermalright SI-97 1 Antec Tricool 12CM Fan
CL SB XFi Xtreme Music
2x Barracuda HDs (250/400)
2x Samsung Write
Vladimir Medvedev Oct 08, 2003, 09:50pm EDT Report Abuse
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SiS, really, is the leader in manufacturing... In fact, nobody spoke about TECHNOLOGICAL leadership. But the volume of the products which are being sold by SiS, surpasses the volumes provided by Via and Intel. Concerning the speed superiority mentioned in clause, it is necessary to tell, that it is possible because of the applied technology of four-channel access to memory. Nobody has applied such technology in PC chipsets before, that's all.

Shadow_Ops_Airman1 Oct 09, 2003, 02:10am EDT Report Abuse
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Intel I think takes Quality in Most of their Chipsets, Via hasnt made a Darn Chipset for Intel Since the Processor Dispute. I Think SIS will always be 3rd Rate. They Have Been For longest of time.

AMD Athlon XP-M 2500+ (133x14= 1867MHz) (209x11= 2299MHz)
DFI LP NF2 Ultra-B (Hellfire 3EG Rev2)
Antec SX800, Neo HE 500, 4 Antec 8CM Fans
Thermalright SI-97 1 Antec Tricool 12CM Fan
CL SB XFi Xtreme Music
2x Barracuda HDs (250/400)
2x Samsung Write
Shadow_Ops_Airman1 Oct 09, 2003, 02:11am EDT Report Abuse
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Is this correct Speed Versus Reliability, I think it should be Fast and Not Erraneous.

AMD Athlon XP-M 2500+ (133x14= 1867MHz) (209x11= 2299MHz)
DFI LP NF2 Ultra-B (Hellfire 3EG Rev2)
Antec SX800, Neo HE 500, 4 Antec 8CM Fans
Thermalright SI-97 1 Antec Tricool 12CM Fan
CL SB XFi Xtreme Music
2x Barracuda HDs (250/400)
2x Samsung Write
Joe Olenick Oct 09, 2003, 11:53am EDT Report Abuse
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sis wouldn't be the first company to start out with entry level products only to advance. if sis is teamed up with rambus then they may have raised the bar?

Richard Wheelock Oct 10, 2003, 01:25pm EDT Report Abuse
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I knew a farmer that had 5,000 acres. One day a sales man came in to sell him a knew kind of seed. He talked for just a little bit, then the farmer interrupted and said, Show me the documentation where it worked! He wasn't putting his cash in a story, but a real deal. But I always have a wait and see attuide. Will it really work that good?
And what about a video card company called nvidia? They made a chipset and a motherboard that knocked VIA on their bohinney, in performance. And to top it off, they built it with onboard sound that rivaled Creative! with on board everything else. For the same money as a regular mb. Save me some money!
Their are some smart people out their that can get a job done.
And talking about money, what is 1200 RDram gonna cost? Then the extra cost of a P4 on top. A XP-2400 sounds extra good for my needs at $80.00.
Will it really work that good? Do I really need 9.6 GB of memory?
And finally, How much faster than instant do you need to go! LOL :)


Shadow_Ops_Airman1 Oct 10, 2003, 02:48pm EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: Re: SiS
Well Yes it depends on what ur Doing with System, Most Gamers/Pro users/Graphics Designers need all the Capability they can get. i Fall Into the Gamer Category. But Having That Excess Power allows for great Ability with future Applications. But Imagine if AMD adopted the Rambus Standard.

AMD Athlon XP-M 2500+ (133x14= 1867MHz) (209x11= 2299MHz)
DFI LP NF2 Ultra-B (Hellfire 3EG Rev2)
Antec SX800, Neo HE 500, 4 Antec 8CM Fans
Thermalright SI-97 1 Antec Tricool 12CM Fan
CL SB XFi Xtreme Music
2x Barracuda HDs (250/400)
2x Samsung Write
Jose Garcia Oct 11, 2003, 12:27am EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: SiS
You know you are right Mr.
Mr. Reed, I am an avid gamer too; As far as computing power is concerned, my pocket book and I try to keep up with the latest and the greatest. Right now I'm running a HT 3ghz with 1gig of 400mhz ecc memory. I'll say this: it is a beautiful thing to have this kind of raw power. I can't wait till 64bit computing gets out of the diapers.

With regard to the 2nd post, Intel dropped RAMBUS because they were afraid of tainting their image after the Rambus group started pulling copyright stunts. Although Rambus is expensive and has a dirty name, it is a great product. If AMD were to adopt Rambus with the new line of 64bit CPU's, no doubt that they would have a predictable advantage over Intel.

I still think that SIS will fall short. If they don't, I'll eat my words and preach SIS to the world. But I don't think that it will happen. Someone please prove me wrong.

Jason John Ioannou Oct 14, 2003, 11:41am EDT Report Abuse
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Simon de Groot Oct 20, 2003, 04:12am EDT Report Abuse
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Nice to know, let's wait to see some benchmarks.

Andy S Oct 20, 2003, 08:14am EDT Report Abuse
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Don't forget that Intel launched the P4 with RDRAM. The whole industry criticised them for it because of the high cost. They dumped it. DDR500 RAM is now being produced, later DDR??? Ultimately its all about cost. As long as DDR keeps on moving up the pace and RDRAM stays expensive no one will support it, regardless of what it can do.

Shadow_Ops_Airman1 Nov 15, 2003, 04:01am EST Report Abuse
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taking DDR too long to go up in speed i say because Rambus is already way ahead with a little over ghz clock operation, Considering the Price i doubt SIS will Survive the Chipset wars, once no one buys their stuff. Imagine No More SIS.

AMD Athlon XP-M 2500+ (133x14= 1867MHz) (209x11= 2299MHz)
DFI LP NF2 Ultra-B (Hellfire 3EG Rev2)
Antec SX800, Neo HE 500, 4 Antec 8CM Fans
Thermalright SI-97 1 Antec Tricool 12CM Fan
CL SB XFi Xtreme Music
2x Barracuda HDs (250/400)
2x Samsung Write
Shadow_Ops_Airman1 Nov 15, 2003, 04:03am EST Report Abuse
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Ive always been against SIS, but now im going against ASUS, they apparently are releasing new Products without Making revisions of the older ones to fix all the darn bugs. Another Thing Dont Hear much about ABIT products good or bad. Just maybe they are the better motherboard maker.

AMD Athlon XP-M 2500+ (133x14= 1867MHz) (209x11= 2299MHz)
DFI LP NF2 Ultra-B (Hellfire 3EG Rev2)
Antec SX800, Neo HE 500, 4 Antec 8CM Fans
Thermalright SI-97 1 Antec Tricool 12CM Fan
CL SB XFi Xtreme Music
2x Barracuda HDs (250/400)
2x Samsung Write
Shadow_Ops_Airman1 Nov 15, 2003, 04:08am EST Report Abuse
>> Re: Re: SiS
Heres My Deal with Good chipsets:

Intel
Nvidia
VIA
SIS

AMD Athlon XP-M 2500+ (133x14= 1867MHz) (209x11= 2299MHz)
DFI LP NF2 Ultra-B (Hellfire 3EG Rev2)
Antec SX800, Neo HE 500, 4 Antec 8CM Fans
Thermalright SI-97 1 Antec Tricool 12CM Fan
CL SB XFi Xtreme Music
2x Barracuda HDs (250/400)
2x Samsung Write
deadkenny Dec 11, 2003, 06:41pm EST Report Abuse
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No doubt SiS chipsets for the P4 are inferior to Intel. But then Intel is pretty tough competition. I really like the 'single chip' design they came up with for socket A. Makes for a nice 'clean' m/b, and cheaper to manufacture. Good 'southbridge' performance as well.

Sailendran Iswara Jothi Jan 05, 2004, 09:17pm EST Report Abuse
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u guys notice something everyone is out there making money..........and they are trying to make it really fast....so becareful leave it to the dumb ases and the money people to give it a shot after all it is SIS not so well trusted and not really famous for stability........., i would anyday opt out for intel or via or nvidia for the fact but not really SIS, maybe i will just wait for Intel or VIA to come out with something like that since they take pride in their R&D and wouldnt want their name to go down the god forsaken drain,

Regards,
Sailendran Iswara Jothi

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Lawrence Heffernan Jan 14, 2004, 03:58pm EST Report Abuse
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Brandon Your Capitalization Of Every Word That You Type Cuts Through Me Like Broken Glass.
Pentium 4's will never be equipped with the HT Bus, since Transmeta and AMD use it.

Justin Feb 05, 2004, 03:44am EST Report Abuse
>> Re: Re: SiS
No i dont beleave that you really have to worry about Rambus. DDRII should be on the market sometime this year... and if that is true that would mean that Rambus is just about dead.



 

    
 
 

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