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Ron Rees Jun 22, 2002, 12:49am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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From other threads in this forum Re: Tyan Thunder K7 S2462 - Worst story ever told... Pasted here for reference (with editing added)
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This is all about my 4U Rack build out... The mobo is the Tyan 2462UNG

I've been trying to get into the Bios Setup Screen(s) for two days. (Press F2) and I did make it twice sort of. First time it froze instantaneousy. The second time it froze after I attempted to change the Hour (hh). I had to do a hard reset to get out.

Most of the time my old spare 15 inch IBM monitor just shows me a blank screen. Then if the CD ROM quits blinking and if I cross my fingers and face EAST while chanting prayers to the TYAN gods. I might get this unit to begin a POST procedure. And then if my prayers are worthy enough I get an opportunity to PRESS F2

Originally, I couldn't get to A:drive due to an inability to get into or through a POST procedure. What happened next is described below.
Some background info.

I'm running an Enhance ENS 0246B Power supply. I can't say anything about it except thats its seems OK. NO way to tell yet. It's approved by TYAN.

I'm attempting to run 2 _18Gb Seagate X15 Cheetah SCSI hard drives on Channel B. They're used, and haven't been formatted yet. I currently do not have a EIDE hard drive and shouldn't need one to the best of my knowledge.

I've attempted to run a combo CD-ROM/FDD with only partial success. This is connected to the Primary IDE connector. Nothing on the secondary IDE connector.

I had to go get a spare 3-1/2 FDD. It fires up and has been fine, but only after the CD Rom flashes through it search routine for close to five minutes.

I plan to run W2K Pro . I've also got plans to run a 3DLabs Wildcat II.

All of this is still a dream.

Additional info continued, below:

Two Athlon MP1600+ are actually installed....POST shows only 1.
The CPU's are the Retail BOX set(s), with fans & heatsinks furnished.

I've seen the TYAN addendum about the J52 and J53 jumpers. I've followed that. I"m kinda wondering if the addendum is correct, Because the J53 jumper doesn't require a change for the lower 200Mhz FSB speed.

Should J53 be pins 2&3??? or is 1 & 2 correct per the addendum.

The "POST" operation also saw my 1 Gb stick of PC2100 SDRAM (ecc+ reg 'd). This does show up in the Main Bios Setup screen when I've actually been able to stare at it in it's frozen status.

Regarding CMOS and BIOS upgrading

An Item I'd like to share is the Pin 1 location for the J21 jumper. This got by me for a while. Pin 1 is on the right , vs. the left !!!! So clearing CMOS is a little hard if you're NOT looking at the pins numbers and think they're all similar. Which is true except for Jumper 21, of course this is probably the most used Jumper on the entire board.
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UPDATED from prior thread Re: Tyan Thunder K7 S2462 - Worst story ever told... Pasted here for reference (with editing added).
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Second day adventures: It finally booted
I've managed to get to the A:>prompt...(applause), OK. Now how did I do it?

This Tyan 2462ung board would NOT go through the POST procedure. At least not the POST procedure I grew up knowing. And maybe it's an evolutionary thing, I don't know. And maybe it's because I don't have an EIDE hard drive. But this board insisted on running a "search of the CD -ROM" which I kept empty, ie; no media installed. Some times it would POST after this routine, mostly not or maybe after it checked A: drive as well...(I'm not 100% on this small point). Well, finally when the PRESS F2 procedure resulted in a BOIS Set Up Screen it wasn't of any use, because it froze the only two times I was lucky enough to get this far.

So that was when I decided to get on the WEB and I ended up here at this Site in the pursuit of some insight on FLASHING the BIOS. I had hoped I might find a procedure which didn't require a half-way operating system (OS) and an operational A:drive. Well I read various threads and liked the one about using DR Dos for a boot disk.

So, I found a Web Site via a search engine (Google, keyword "boot disk". Then, I downloaded and created a DR DOS Boot Disk and put it in the empty A: drive slot thinking it would be nice to have it ready if I should be so lucky as to get to an A:>prompt. Then, I fired it up...no luck yet.
Another light came on. "Why not put some media in the CD ROM"
So, I put in my Windows 2000 Pro CD ROM disk

Walla, HOORAY and lots of applause here. The system went through it's non-traditional routine (looked at the CD ROM, spun up , spun down, checked my Keyboard ( now it;s LED is ON). Then it went through the POST procedure...the same one I grew up with. Then it flashed something I can't remember..Probably about DR Dos or similar and then an A:> prompt. My first successful boot.

Now ,if I'm really lucky I can upgrade my BIOS from version 2.06 to what I have ready and waiting from the TYAN Website as 2462v211.rom. This will hopefully install as required when I execute the Phlash16 BIOS Utility.

Believe me , if it doesn't work I'll let you know. All my other attempts resulted in failure...why?... because I couldn't get to an A:>prompt.. I'm finally there..... more applause clap, clap....etc.
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Third Post updated
also from prior thread Re: Tyan Thunder K7 S2462 - Worst story ever told... Pasted here for reference (with editing added).
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I'm back again....and the news isn't very good.

First, let me say I did manage to flash (upgrade my BIOS) but NOT per Tyan Guidelines again. Tyan would have you do a clean boot to A: drive with a boot disk created from W95/98/ME with an additional F5 key to make sure it's clean (no tsr's). Then they would have you use a separate disk to run the BIOS Utility and the new BIOS file (2462v211.rom). I tried this. But at my house, I'm running NT 4.0 to create things and to log on to the internet. The new TYAN (and most other IBM clones) don't like to mix DOS versions. Well, I used a DR DOS BOOT DISK. in order to get to A: drive. Well, don't you know the system would'n't read the disk media which was where I had put the Flash Utility & files. So, then I decided to put it all on the DR DOS boot disk, but in it's own Directory (folder). This worked just fine. BIOS now reports Version 2.11. I have photographic evidence in case no one believes me.

Now the good part of this message thread...or the bad news as of the moment. I still can't get to a BIOS Setup Screen. The last thing I see on my monitor is "Entering SETUP ..." then the freeze begins.

This machine now POSTS, but I've not made it back to an A:> prompt yet. It stills has to look at the CDROM prior to POST

The two SCSI Seagate X15 Cheetah's haven't had an adverse effect as best I can tell. The SCSI setup portion of the POST procedure has never failed.

The monitor has always responded no matter where I plug it ...via either the onboard graphics or even the 3D Labs Wildcat II card even though this card hasn't been configured (simply plugged into it's AGP slot).

More later.....if it(sic) does something of value.

Ron Rees 9:13 PM,PST



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Ron Rees Jun 22, 2002, 06:33pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Tyan 2462 no post, or frozen BIOS Setup screen, no boot
Anybody,
This is a follow up on top of my prior theard(s). It's now well into day 3-1/2 of attempting to get into the BIOS Setup Screens.

If someone has experienced this condition I would be eternally grateful for any answers or advice thats actually works.

A simple question ....when is the most opportune time to press the F2 key.

And another simple question...When does (is) the POST procedure actually meant to start for this board. I've always thought this to be an almost instantaineous response to powering up the system. If someone actually knows this is not the case please confirm with a respond to this thread. And if anybody has actual experience with the BIOS setup I would love to here of their success or failure.

I've upgraded the CMOS (yesterday). This helped the POST operation as best I can tell. I was fortunate enough today to have made it into the BIOS Setup screen twice. Again it froze or hung almost immediately not allowing any changes, or saves or exit out of its gloriesness. Reset or power down is all the only option. I've logged 6-1/2 pages of notes and procedures very meticulessly(sp) just in the last few hours.

Final thought(s)...I'm thinking that the BIOS is the main culprit here. The POST operation and the BIOS are hand in glove to one another. What I'm experiencing (in my humble opinion) is actually the POST's inability to complete it's own operation. This would be consistent with my boards inability to get to an "A:\> prompt" on just a normal boot with out trying to get into the BIOS Setup.

Ron Rees 2:57 PM PST

DeQuincey Jun 22, 2002, 06:45pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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STRIP IT!!!

Try to boot w/ nothing connected but the power supply.
Does it POST? It should beep at you as if you'd kidnapped it's child.

Add vid card & memory, connect floppy. Does it POST?

Hopefully, at this point you can get into the BIOS.

Ron Rees Jun 22, 2002, 06:54pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Sorry, maybe I wasn't all that clear. I've now managed to post on a consistent basis. It's the timing of the POST operation that has me confused.

The second item is the apparent inability to have anything happen after the POST is supposedly completed, ie; go to an "A:\> prompt".

The BIOS Setup is actually part of a solution is I could get it to operate (run).

Thanks for your rapid response...and I hope this clarifies the situation

Ron Rees 3:18 PM PST

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The POST operation should be the first thing that happens after applying power to the system. (I.e. Power On Self Test)

I don't see how this is pertinent...strip the pc. Try to get it to work the least amount of equipment. Try to get to the prompt with nothing but a hard drive, video card, memory & floppy drive. If this means grabbing and old IDE drive, then do it. Drop the SCSI card for now, get the system up and running first.

Once you can get into bios you'll be able to set the boot sequence (i.e. what devices it tries to boot from and it what order). However, this happens WAY after the POST is already done. By the time you're trying to "Enter setup" POST is finished.


Your problem could be a hardware conflict or a bad mobo. That's my feeling on it anyway. How old is the mobo? What about the power supply?

Ron Rees Jun 22, 2002, 08:10pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Hi,

The only thing I can do along that line of thinking is drop out the 2 scsi drives. There are no cards plugged in to this mobo currently. Basically this mobo is down to the bare minimums already.

I agree with your description regarding the normal execution of the POST
procedure. So if you're aware of why my system is looking at the CDrom drive (with Media installed) as a pre-resequite prior to executing itself please continue.

An explanation of why the delayed response must have something to do with gathering the needed data in-order to fulfill it's job when the end user get to selects the various parameters pertinent to each of the drives it's obligated to monitor.

My system doesn't yet have the normal IDE hard drive.

I do have two SCSI drives. All indications are that they're fine. Yes, the POST procedures see's them and indicates no conflicts, They have they're proper ID's and this too is reflected in the SCSI Select program that runs inside of the POST procedure.

This board is basically straving for input information. The Primary IDE cable is connected to a CDROM. The BIOS is not finding a bootable device untill it gets to the "A" drive. The BIOS doesn't really know if the SCSI devices are meant to be BOOTable because this information isn't yet made available to the BIOS. It' comes down to it being a User input.

I could disconnect the 2 SCSI and the CDROM devices. That would leave almost nothing. Perhaps if I left just the floppy "A" drive.
Let me try that. If that works, then at least I can re-flash the CMOS if I have to.

Thanks for making me think harder of this problem then I might of without you!

Ron Rees 4:33 PM PST

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Hey no problem...

Do you realize that POST is finished by the time you see anything on the screen? POST has nothing to do with your SCSI cards.

http://whatis.techtarget.com/definition/0,,sid9_gci214577,00.html

Most important thing to take away:

"Since POST runs before the computer's video card is activated, it may not be possible to progress to the display screen."

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Also, the system spins up the CD-ROM during boot up that doesn't mean it's actually looking for something in the CD-ROM.

Now, the mobo may ship with the boot order in the bios such as this:

1) CD-ROM
2) Floppy
3) HDD

But, if you can't get into the bios, you can't change it. So, concentrate on getting into the bios.

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Hi De Quincy,

As regards the SCSI devices. I have no cards. The controller is built in to the mobo. It can however be instructed not to part of the boot scan or POST procedure. I'll look a little closer into this option.

As regards the POST operation, I'd describe it this way. The "SCSI Select" program is a nested program or routine which runs within the POST procedure.
I've just disconnected the CDROM and the SCSI cable..

I'm not getting any POST procedure and I've definitly not gotten a "A:\> prompt. Nothing is plugged in except the A drive and the monitor to it's built_in video adapter.

More later, if things get better.

Thanks for all the feedback so far.

Ron 5:34 PM PST


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You're welcome. Anytime.

Now, let's get something clear. The POST operation and the "SCSI Select" utility have nothing to do with one another. The SCSI Select utility is a part of the SCSI system's bios.

Basically, if you see anything on the screen, you've gone through a sucessful POST. (Some BIOSes will display an error code on the screen, but this isn't the norm. As, by definition, the POST procedure occurs before the video is activated.)

Have you tried booting it up w/o any memory installed? This is the way I verify that the POST is working correctly. (Basically, if the board doesn't complain at this point, something else is wrong. However, that usually refers to a motherboard that won't boot up at all.)

So:
1) Can you get into the BIOS?
2) Does your hard drive have an operating system on it?
3) Are you using a boot floppy?
4) How much of the boot up do you see?
a) Do you see the memory test? (by now POST is over and the BIOS is complete controll)

5) Do you have a bootable OS CD? Like a bootable Win98/Win2k/WinXP cd. A bootable Win98 cd is ideal, as it will drop you into DOS. The other two will begin their setup procedures.


Please, take out the memory and see how the board reacts. This will tell you how this board handles POST. It should beep at you. Or maybe this is one of the few with on screen messages.

(I don't know if the built in video will display it's BIOS information, however, if it does and you can see it, POST has completed. POST occurs before video is turned on.)

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Hi DeQuincey,

I've cut and pasted your responses....I"ll try to answer or explain what I think are the real facts as best as I can.

You're welcome. Anytime.

Back to you

Now, let's get something clear. The POST operation and the "SCSI Select" utility have nothing to do with one another. The SCSI Select utility is a part of the SCSI system's bios.
Maybe, I’m being a little to free with my descriptions as regards what I see on the monitor. And maybe you’re being a bit too literal about the POST Procedure and
how it relays that information back to the end user.
Basically, if you see anything on the screen, you've gone through a sucessful POST. (Some BIOSes will display an error code on the screen, but this isn't the norm. As, by definition, the POST procedure occurs before the video is activated.) I’m not entirely convinced you’re very familiar with the Phoenix BIOS.. It’s quite thorough and as quoted from MY User’s Manual furnished by Tyan…”The BIOS is immediately activated when you first turn on your computer. The BIOS reads system configuration information in CMOS RAM and begins the process of checking out the system and configuring it through the Power-On Self Test (POST).” End quote

I had 3 different Error Codes relayed to me during what I refer to as the POST Procedure. As follows:

ERROR 0271 check date & time settings
WARNING 0251 System CMOS checksum bad…Default Configuration used.
ERROR 0210 Stuck Key

Have you tried booting it up w/o any memory installed? NO, The POST relays back the following:
1024 M System RAM Passed ……This is on the Third line
This is the way I verify that the POST is working correctly. (Basically, if the board doesn't complain at this point, something else is wrong. However, that usually refers to a motherboard that won't boot up at all.)

So:
1) Can you get into the BIOS ……. No, when I Press F2 the POST Procedure either aborts (BLACK SCREEN) or concludes with a Frozen Screen and a message as follows: “Entering Setup…” From here you can do a Reset or Power down. This is just one of many variations which I’ve used in my attempts ot get into the BIOS Setup. The question of when to Press F2 can be successful or it can cause a lock up at the of what I call the POST Procedure. On just a couple of occasions I was lucky enough to actually have the BIOS Setup open up. And I attempted to correct the time setting. Then it Froze or HUNG. You have to do a Reset or Power Down to out of this.
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2) Does your hard drive have an operating system on it? ……. no
3) Are you using a boot floppy? ……. Yes, DR DOS Ver 7.0+ But only if I can get past the POST Procedure
4) How much of the boot up do you see? None, it simply does a Clean Boot. To A:\|>
a) Do you see the memory test? (by now POST is over and the BIOS is complete controll) Yes, as relayed back to screen.

5) Do you have a bootable OS CD? Like a bootable Win98/Win2k/WinXP cd. A bootable Win98 cd is ideal, as it will drop you into DOS. The other two will begin their setup procedures. NO to questions.


Please, take out the memory and see how the board reacts. This will tell you how this board handles POST. It should beep at you. Or maybe this is one of the few with on screen messages. I don’t need to do this

(I don't know if the built in video will display it's BIOS information, however, if it does and you can see it, POST has completed. POST occurs before video is turned on.)
No Comment.



P.S. I had all this hard work in Itallics and RED fonts...Oh Well


Thanks again

Ron Rees 8:56 PM PST

Ron Rees Jun 23, 2002, 04:15pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Hi Anybody, and thanks to "DeQincey"

(I'm thinking you're through with this discussion.) But, let me says thank you I more time.

MY Final Comments.

But before I dive into the details, let me give you the Short Version:

It's a BOOTABLE System and I can access the BIOS Setup Menus.

Now to touch on the DETAILS as best I can.

After attempting to STRIP IT down to the Bare Essentials and not having any better luck I turned the Idea around and went the other way.

I went and got an OLD Western DIgital 1.2Gb EIDE hard drive; put it on the Primary IDE Connector. I then move the CDROM Drive to the Secondary IDE Connector. I also re-connected the SCSI Cable to the "B" Channel (as recommended for UltraU160 lvd drives). The floppy was plugged in, as before.

Some fine points which may or may not be relevant. I had "media" in the CDROM as well as a floppy in the A: drive.

As I've mentioned elsewhere these (2) are used SCSI drives. Value UNKNOWN. They spin up and they spin down and have be properly setup or recognized every time the system has been powered up to date.

That's basically it. The old IBM 15" monitor is plugged into the On board Video adapter.( No setup...no jumpers). Simply plugged in.

I powered it up this Sunday Morning and all went exceptionally well.

It began with what I've now grown accustomed to; ie, a slow or delayed POST Procedure. I'm talking somewhere in the neighborhood of 1 to 3 minutes. There is a lot of time looking spent looking at the CD ROM drive which I've mentioned several times in my prior threads.

Anyway, after it finally satisfies itself, the monitor flashes once very briefly with some about BIOS...looks like a couple of lines, but they're separated about an inch or two on my small monitor. And I meant a Flash, it's very quick. Then a slight pause, which can vary in lenght from a about 5OO mili-seconds to maybe a couple of seconds max. Then the Keyboard fires up. Flash, Flash...and the LED is finally lite for the first time. Now you wait some more. A few seconds, maybe a few more seconds, then what I refer to as the POST Procedure begins to relay back its status of your system. Including Error messages, if any.

For those of us used to hearing a BEEP....forget it. NO Beep has been heard in this room as of this minute which normally would indicate a successful POST.
It may still happen...because, I've yet to go back into the BIOS Setup Menu's to Digest and Save the various parameters.

It (the BIOS Setup) froze this morning ....well past it usual point of locking up, but I can testify that's it's alive and operational. It even has accepted input from me.

(Actually, I went and ate breakfast and then came back before I stated to tinker around in the BIOS Setup Menu's...Maybe it got tired of me playing.

Anyway, I finally pushed Reset, which didn't appear to have the desired effect, ie; a re-boot. So, then, I Powered Down. Then I Powered UP.

Everything is fine, (I didn't touch or change a thing). It went through all the same slow (or delayed...black screen...POST procedures) and then the monitor flashed as always, then the Keyboard, then the POST Report activity began to roll by on the monitor including the SCSI Select (sub-routine). Then it Flashed something about starting Caldera DRDOS and concluded with "A:\> _

That's it

End of Story.

Ron Rees 12:38 PM PST

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F**k, if i know. :D

Something's screwy...I'm glad you got it going, though. Post back anything else you may find out. I'm curious just to know what the issue could be. (Always useful in this line of work/play.)

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Now you had limited success with the cd media out of the drive, right? I'd suggest looking into wether having a cd in the driver makes a difference once you get it up an running. (Though this is honestly just a shot in the dark.)


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Hi DeQuincey,

Well, I'm back. One thing about computers. They're no D--- Good if they can't repeat someting at least twice in row.

As reported in my prior thread, I was in The BIOS Setup and playing around when it froze. Obviously, I needed to get back to it.

That's the story...and it's not over yet. I'm still in trouble. Haven't as yet got back in. I've a couple ideas I need to check out. The first one has to do with going through the SCSI Select Routine. Why, because that is how I managed to get to BIOS Setup Screem last time. I've just tried a no touch re-boot with no success at all. It went into the POST Procedure and reported back what I want to describe as a normal report. This included the automatic run through of the SCSI Select routine.

The monitor presentthe following info:
__________________________

Phoenix BIOS 2, Release 6.0
Copyright.....
Alll Rights Reserv....
Build 05/14/02

Then a double line rectangular box with the following BLOCK lettering
"TYAN THUNDER K7
V 2.11 BIOS"

Then Six lines of text as follows:

CPU= AMD Athlon mp 1600+
1 Processor(s) Detected
1024M System RAM Passed
Fixed Disk 0: WDC A21200H
Atapi CD-ROM Matshita CR-175
Mouse Initialized
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That's it ....It Hung right here.


So, I'm on my way.

More Later, Thanks for continued interest.

Ron Rees 2:38 PM PST

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Hey I forgot to mention the Pause button. Unfortunately, using it usally means being able to get the computer to do the same thing twice, so that you have some idea of when to press "Puase."

But, heck, if you can get the board to flash error codes at you, this may be a way to see 'em. Use "Esc" to resume "normal" operation.


Also, you mentioned a stuck key error in one of your posts. Have you looked into this?

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Hi De Quincey,

Been there, done that.....

I just now completed going through another attempt as I described.
The system is sitting there "HUNG" as I type this. I just pressed F2 for the hell of it a few minutes ago. No response. I guess I was just real lucky this morning. I had gone through the SCSI Select screens and exited out....Well, the very next thing I was presented with was a Dialog Box with a BOOT MENU label. This consisted of 4 items:
_______________________
1. + Removable Device
2. + Hard Drive
3. CD ROM Boot
4. Network Boot
<Enter Setup>
_________________________

Of course I had to select Setup...And yes It was user friendly...all the way through Breakfast and then some. Finally it Froze or HUNG


It was on the next Power up re-boot that I made it all the way to the "A:\>

So, Here I'm sitting...typing this thread.. the system has HUNG and sitting there humming for about 15 minutes. Time to power down I guess.

The whole thing about getting into the BIOS Setup Screen and being able to out with a saved configuration has become the main focus. If anyone knows hao and when to push the F2 key.....please share that info now.
The POST Procedures is just great...but only when you can get pass it. If it was good enough to allow you to Enter the Bios Setup Menu as well, well we wouldn't need this Forum to vent our frustrations would we?

So, if any one knows when and how to Press the F2 key please respond now!


Please, Please, Please.

Ron Rees 3:40 PM PST


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Anybody,

This is a short update on progress or lack of progress.

I'm still hanging in the BIOS SETUP Menu's. I've gotten a little better guessing about when to press the F2 key...Seems to prefer to be pressed right about when the memory check information is being presented during what I call the POST Report. Some times it opens and sometimes it don't. Just getting the system to POST and boot to A:\> can be accomplished if you're not interested in going through any BIOS setup changes. I'm sitting here right now waiting for a BIOS SETUP screen to happen. Eight minutes and counting! Same Message as before:ie, Entering Setup...
And so I wait...........................9 minutes and wating. I've waited overnight...believe me it's hung.

Any feedback is still welcomed

Ron Rees
4:11PM PDT

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Anybody,

Update.......I've gone to Tyan, requested an RMA, received same, packaged the MOBO and sent it in Jul 2, 2002. I'm waiting.

ron rees tue, 7/8/02 6:27PM PDT

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Good luck man, let us know if that fixes the issue.

Ron Rees Aug 28, 2002, 01:17pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Tyan 2462 no post, or frozen BIOS Setup screen, no boot
hi anybody...and hi to to De Quincy,

It's been awhile,.... I've been busy. here's the follow up for the Original question ie; "when to push the "F2" key. The new 4 unit rack style PC is operational....no changes to original configuration.

Briefly: dual processors, AMD 1600+
Enhanced Power Supply
Two Seagate Cheetah X15 Scsi, 18Gb
Combo 3 1/2"floppy/CDROM
3DLabs Wildcat 5110 AGP Pro

Running on top of Window 2000 PRO
+++++++++++++FOLLOW UP++++++++++++
8/28/02,Followup:

First, I have to tell anybody reading this that the motherboard was sent back to Tyan. I didn't get any grief from Tyan. I simply documented my problem and they were kind enough to furnish me a RMA number. They replaced the board, no questions. This new board works fine. It's been installed for about a month now.

As regards the timing for pressing the "F2" key....I wait for the first screen to appear. This screen will pop on after approximately (1:00) one minute and prior to any "Beep".

It will report the current BIOS and at least three lines of information. One of them will be the installed RAM as it's going through it's test. I normally see my first color screen of Windows 2000 at (2:20) two minutes, twenty seconds.

This will hold on until the transition (BLACK, then BLUE screen)...total elapsed time now at (4:50)four minutes, fifty seconds.

Logon Dialog box apppears at (5:50) five minutes, five seconds. (whew..that's some boot). Other Operating Systems are probably faster.

I'm guesssing to get to the first "BEEP" is going to be the 1 minute, 50 seconds for most folks.

Thanks, and good luck to all

Ron Rees
Orange County 9:29AM PDT


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