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Toker Jan 26, 2004, 09:07am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Why build an Athlon XP system nowadays?

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SuPeR Xp Jan 26, 2004, 11:48am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Why build an Athlon XP system nowadays?
There was an Athlon 64 FX-51 demonstration in a store in my area and these are the temps with stock heat sink and fan.
We are talking about 24C to 28C. I personally don't like thermal pads which are already connected to many stock heat sinks. You "WILL" get better heat transfer with a paste like Arctic Silver 3 & 5, if used properly. You can get around 30C or bellow with a lower than average heat sink and fan assured if using thermal paste.
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Shadow_Ops_Airman1 Jan 26, 2004, 02:06pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Why build an Athlon XP system nowadays?
hey super there is a new thermal compound on the block check it out on Xoxide.com

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Lawrence Heffernan Jan 26, 2004, 05:27pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Why build an Athlon XP system nowadays?
36 degrees C with a 3200+ at 2.22GHz Vcore 1.55v

ray Stephens Jan 26, 2004, 06:53pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Why build an Athlon XP system nowadays?
Law, is that an AXP 3200+ or an A64 3200+?

Corvus Raven Jan 26, 2004, 06:54pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Edited: Jan 26, 2004, 06:57pm EST

 
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SuPeR Xp Jan 27, 2004, 12:44am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Carter Sudeith Jan 27, 2004, 10:21pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Why build an Athlon XP system nowadays?
Crap, you guys won't believe this. You know how my friend was going to get and Opty? Today he tells me he switched the order to A64 3400+ at the last minute. He's still getting a K8T800 board (ASUS) but now I can't get you guys any Opteron benchies... He said he finally realized socket 940 will be outdated soon, and that getting and Opteron LATER would be smarter. Damn. Then again, the 3400+ has unlocked multipliers...

Shadow_Ops_Airman1 Jan 27, 2004, 11:04pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Why build an Athlon XP system nowadays?
ya im waiting for a Socket 939 AMD 64 FX board and PCI Express on it, X16 will be for graphics and sound. Im also waiting for the PCI X 16 ATI boards. hmm i wonder if the FX multipliers are unlocked. Oh if Ali Makes a Stable and fast chipset that Optimizes any vid card then im getting that, I heard that Nvidia Chipsets dont Optimize ATi vid cards, meaning not getting best capability from it. but as of Xp, any good or bad news on the Via KT600? I most definitely will stay away from SIS chipsets.

AMD Athlon XP-M 2500+ (133x14= 1867MHz) (209x11= 2299MHz)
DFI LP NF2 Ultra-B (Hellfire 3EG Rev2)
Antec SX800, Neo HE 500, 4 Antec 8CM Fans
Thermalright SI-97 1 Antec Tricool 12CM Fan
CL SB XFi Xtreme Music
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2x Samsung Write
Shadow_Ops_Airman1 Jan 27, 2004, 11:05pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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funny thing is about nanotherm i dont think there is silver in that stuff and it ties with arctic silver 3 in thermal conductivity.

AMD Athlon XP-M 2500+ (133x14= 1867MHz) (209x11= 2299MHz)
DFI LP NF2 Ultra-B (Hellfire 3EG Rev2)
Antec SX800, Neo HE 500, 4 Antec 8CM Fans
Thermalright SI-97 1 Antec Tricool 12CM Fan
CL SB XFi Xtreme Music
2x Barracuda HDs (250/400)
2x Samsung Write
SuPeR Xp Jan 28, 2004, 01:19am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Why build an Athlon XP system nowadays?
The A64 FX is fully unlocked. Also, I think both ATI and NVidia are good video card makers. For some reason, when you compare them both, the ATI seem to have brighter, colourful and detailed gaming screens than NVidia does. Some sites favour NVidia and some ATI. You be the judge.

Image Quality Tests. Check it out.

http://www.amdmb.com/article-display.php?ArticleID=274&PageID=7


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Shadow_Ops_Airman1 Jan 28, 2004, 03:45am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Why build an Athlon XP system nowadays?
well dont get me wrong i had a GF2 GTS Pro from Hercules, first true vid card, in a 1.7 Ghz P4 system, i gave that system to my brother, at moment u see my system specs below, i mean i used to like nvidia, but now ive practically saw the light with the ATI card, altho there was issue with specific motherboards aka mine, until a bios came around which fixed it.

AMD Athlon XP-M 2500+ (133x14= 1867MHz) (209x11= 2299MHz)
DFI LP NF2 Ultra-B (Hellfire 3EG Rev2)
Antec SX800, Neo HE 500, 4 Antec 8CM Fans
Thermalright SI-97 1 Antec Tricool 12CM Fan
CL SB XFi Xtreme Music
2x Barracuda HDs (250/400)
2x Samsung Write
Shadow_Ops_Airman1 Jan 28, 2004, 03:52am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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ati works on quality, altho i end up not caring about the FPS as the FPS i have are sufficient enuf to not produce anylag and get me fragged in games.

AMD Athlon XP-M 2500+ (133x14= 1867MHz) (209x11= 2299MHz)
DFI LP NF2 Ultra-B (Hellfire 3EG Rev2)
Antec SX800, Neo HE 500, 4 Antec 8CM Fans
Thermalright SI-97 1 Antec Tricool 12CM Fan
CL SB XFi Xtreme Music
2x Barracuda HDs (250/400)
2x Samsung Write
Corvus Raven Jan 28, 2004, 01:09pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Why build an Athlon XP system nowadays?
It sux when someone is standing there to be shot..uh. to have their attention regulated, when suddenly they are nowhere in sight. :)

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AMD XP 2800+ @ 0.0 GHz 0MHz FSB (overheating for no appearent reason)
(2) - Corsair XMS512-3500C2 (5-2-2-2T) @ 0MHz
ATI Radeon 9700 Pro @0
Enermax 500W p/s (ok.
tom Jan 28, 2004, 07:01pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Why build an Athlon XP system nowadays?
Look people, I thought this thread was about Athlon XP, not video cards.

Here are some reasons why you would want any processor -

Intel Pentium 4 - Rich kid type doofus who hears the name 'Intel' and associates it with 'the best'.
Intel Celeron - Someone who is a thicks**t and knows nothing about computers
AMD Athlon XP - Penny Pincher who doesn't mind the 99.9% risk of breaking the CPU through installation (not to mention frying it)
AMD Athlon 64 3000/3200/3400 - Good choice, sensible person. At a good price and offer splendid performance
AMD Athlon 64 FX-5X - Someone who is a sad show off because considering the software available today and in the near future most people do not need such power and are wasting their money
Intel Pentium 4 Expensive Edition - HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA SUCKER TO INTEL!!!!!!!!!!!!

Which one are you?

Now the 64 FX is 'ere everyone thinks 'I need that, oh got to have it' and that's bollucks

I get by on my Pentium 4 very well and just cos the 64 FX is here it doesn't make the P4 any 'worse' to have. The Athlon 64 FX is an unnecessary extravagance for anyone but the sad minded loser who plays games day in day out can of beer in one hand and bum spilling over the sides of the seat and expects perfectionist performance.

Final Statement: The Athlon 64 3200/3400 is the best CPU, as it's 64 bit future proofed at a good price with huge speed , and so is the best choice, and I don't think it requires stupidly expensive registered memory.

SuPeR Xp Jan 29, 2004, 12:54am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Edited: Jan 29, 2004, 01:00am EST

 
>> Re: Why build an Athlon XP system nowadays?
Nicely Put.

A friend and I are waiting for the AMD Athlon 64 FX 55 (San Diego Core) when it comes out around May -June 2004. Then waite about 4 to 6 months for it to go down in price. My Athlon XP 2500+ will do just fine for now. It plays Doom 3 like running water, well when I have time to play that is.

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1 Jan 29, 2004, 01:12am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> yes nicely put however,
someone needs to stop superxp from spewing lies. For one, your system does not play Doom3 like water. I now this because (admittedly) not even my machine in my signiture plays Doom3 like water. If you are going to commit yourself as a lyer then why not at least have the common sense to know that others here have fx51's phase exchange cooled along side 9800xt's volt modded and phase exchange cooled and are still only running 30 frames max under mildly intense scenes in doom3.
Misinformation does noone any good. So why not straighten up become a truthfull member of these forums.

ray Stephens Jan 29, 2004, 01:27am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Why build an Athlon XP system nowadays?
"AMD Athlon XP - Penny Pincher who doesn't mind the 99.9% risk of breaking the CPU through installation (not to mention frying it)"

What now...? 99.9%

SuPeR Xp Jan 29, 2004, 01:45am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Why build an Athlon XP system nowadays?
Matt McFaul,
Don't call people liars. It's not nice.

Have you played DOOM 3 beta?
Because if you have, then you would know that there are performance settings in the OPTIONS you can choose. You can have an average system that will play DOOM 3 O.K.
Now I am not sure about the non-beta version though.


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Shadow_Ops_Airman1 Jan 29, 2004, 02:27am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Why build an Athlon XP system nowadays?
matt cool ur jets man, just let him say what he has to say, ya P4 Rich Kid Doofus LOL,I guess im a Rich Kid Doofus, Hell I didnt even have to buy the processor, just the motherboard and vid card and ram everything else was from previous system excluding the Processor and powersupply.

AMD Athlon XP-M 2500+ (133x14= 1867MHz) (209x11= 2299MHz)
DFI LP NF2 Ultra-B (Hellfire 3EG Rev2)
Antec SX800, Neo HE 500, 4 Antec 8CM Fans
Thermalright SI-97 1 Antec Tricool 12CM Fan
CL SB XFi Xtreme Music
2x Barracuda HDs (250/400)
2x Samsung Write

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