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Thomas Vander Vliet Feb 04, 2004, 08:39am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Josh Butler Feb 04, 2004, 09:20am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: AMD vs. INTEL
If you have alot of money then Intel.....If you have a fair amount of money, but want to get a better video card or whatever than you could get with an Intel system then get AMD....My next system will be amd, because Intels aren't too much faster than AMDs....

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Michael A. Feb 04, 2004, 09:29am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Edited: Mar 29, 2004, 03:22pm EST

 
>> Re: AMD vs. INTEL
For absolute performance go with Intel. For better value go with AMD. AMD chips are no worse than Intel, you just don't have to pay extra for Intel's name. Also, AMD systems are easier to upgrade. Intel changes their chipset like a few times a day, (j/k,) so Intel upgrades sometimes force you to get a newer mobo everytime you upgrade your CPU. For cutting edge performance, go with Intel. For affordability and upgradibility go with AMD. (It was so hard to be unbiased in this message!) If you have any more AMD questions I will be glad to answer them.

Michael A.
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1 Feb 04, 2004, 11:10am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: AMD vs. INTEL
application???? For gaming I would say get the AMD (xp2500+ and above), for internet production, mpeg, and anything else optimized for SSE2 instruction I would say go with Intel.

ROY G Feb 04, 2004, 11:23am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: AMD vs. INTEL
SiRmOdAlOt , nice system !

Josh Butler Feb 04, 2004, 12:02pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: AMD vs. INTEL
I am slobbering at the 23 inch monitor as I sit in front of my aging 19 inch NEC...Well, not aging, but not top of the line....

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grant fanning Feb 04, 2004, 02:46pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: AMD vs. INTEL
yeah AMD rules for games but thats about it.

Shadow_Ops_Airman1 Feb 04, 2004, 02:54pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: AMD vs. INTEL
The Prescott P4 Processor SUX, For those with 533/800 Processors Stick with them, Prescott is an underachiever compared to the older P4 Northwood(533) and the 800 Processors Before Prescott Performance is higher. Intel is getting stupider with the pipeline now, they keep on increasing it.

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Michael A. Feb 04, 2004, 03:18pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Edited: Feb 04, 2004, 03:19pm EST

 
>> Re: AMD vs. INTEL
Great Fanning you know nothing about AMD! I'm not taking sides of either AMD or Intel but I can tell you that most people will never notice any major differences. In fact, back before I knew about computer hardware I ran and AMD Duron 700 for two years without even knowing it! (I was only 12, okay?) The point, is AMD CPUs are just more affordable. That is the only major difference. Intel CPUs are faster and run cooler but are way more expensive. I am running an AMD system and Intel system and although I like AMD better overall I have no preferences in-between my two systems because they are more or less the same!

A good but old article: http://www.pcstats.com/articleview.cfm?articleID=1194

Michael

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Josh Butler Feb 04, 2004, 04:09pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: AMD vs. INTEL
Before I became informed about how Intel achieves the higher clocks speeds and fsb, I was as ignorant as you Michael......While Intel does run cooler, it is only because they have a deeper line for the processes to travel down, and with these longer lines they are able to travel faster(making the frequencies higher)....Also the FSB is false, it is jut a quad pumped 200mhz FSB(being the new 800mhz fsb models)....AMD runs hotter because they have a shorter line for the info to travel down, and more info being sent to and from shorter lines means more heat produced....My little brothers 2500+ when coupled with my ram and videocard, pwn my system that I paid 200 more on, just because of the mobo and processor were that much more expensive....So, with that being said AMD is a better choice if you are on a budget, but like I said, if you have the money go intel...

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1 Feb 04, 2004, 06:25pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: AMD vs. INTEL
thanks Roy...btw...just for comparison in one application.
these are my systems running 1million digits of pi
intel 3.2c stock-42seconds
xp2800+ t bred oc'ed to 2800mhrtz-39 seconds

even though the amd wins it requires much more maintenance and work to get it there whereas the intel is stock with an aeroflow that is much quietter then hovercraft needed to cool my AMD:-)

SuPeR Xp Feb 04, 2004, 10:08pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: AMD vs. INTEL
Michael Hill, I think you have gotten your words confused, for Absolute Performance go with AMD, for value/price go with AMD.

There you go.

AMD Athlon 64 FX Rules...

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Shadow_Ops_Airman1 Feb 04, 2004, 10:56pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: AMD vs. INTEL
Heck im not falling for the Prescott, I Like the Northwood i have, Runs latest Games Great.

AMD Athlon XP-M 2500+ (133x14= 1867MHz) (209x11= 2299MHz)
DFI LP NF2 Ultra-B (Hellfire 3EG Rev2)
Antec SX800, Neo HE 500, 4 Antec 8CM Fans
Thermalright SI-97 1 Antec Tricool 12CM Fan
CL SB XFi Xtreme Music
2x Barracuda HDs (250/400)
2x Samsung Write
Michael A. Feb 04, 2004, 11:12pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: AMD vs. INTEL
Yeah SuperXP I know. I just think it's fair to be unbiased. I like AMD a lot better but I can't hide from the facts. I''m not far weather fan though and I'll stick by AMD forever!

Michael A.
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Shadow_Ops_Airman1 Feb 04, 2004, 11:49pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: AMD vs. INTEL
i may not have a great motherboard like the 848,865,875 based motherboards out there, but this thing runs the Games like a Dream.

AMD Athlon XP-M 2500+ (133x14= 1867MHz) (209x11= 2299MHz)
DFI LP NF2 Ultra-B (Hellfire 3EG Rev2)
Antec SX800, Neo HE 500, 4 Antec 8CM Fans
Thermalright SI-97 1 Antec Tricool 12CM Fan
CL SB XFi Xtreme Music
2x Barracuda HDs (250/400)
2x Samsung Write
Josh Butler Feb 05, 2004, 03:48pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: AMD vs. INTEL
Yea, anything that is over 1.5ghz is going to run all of today's games beautifully....Hell, a ti4200 will play most games great, when coupled with the 1.5ghz processor and 512pc2100 ddr ram...

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Michael A. Feb 08, 2004, 05:50pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: AMD vs. INTEL
Well, the NVIDIA Ti *will* run the latest games but I'm not so sure how well. Your gonna miss out on alot of the cool extras. I'm usually one to two years behind the latest card but I still can play all the games. When games start coming out and I realised my card can't push all the settings I start thinking about an upgrade. I had an MX-440 for two and a half years and recently got the tad-dated 5200 for about $90 USD! I think I will probably keep this card until mid 2005. What's the point in paying for technology no current games can use?

Michael A.
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SuPeR Xp Feb 09, 2004, 10:42am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: AMD vs. INTEL
The Nvidia Ti 4200 runs games O.K. I have mine overclocked a little. My next card will be ATI. No more Nvidia.


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Lawrence Heffernan Feb 09, 2004, 01:56pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: AMD vs. INTEL
Get the Athlon 64 3400+, basically the fastest games processor (yeh, it's occasionally slower, but also occasionally faster than Socket 940 FX51)

SuPeR Xp Feb 09, 2004, 02:51pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: AMD vs. INTEL
Yes, I agree with Lawrence. The Athlon 64 3400+ performs very good and is quite overclockable without aftermarket heat sink and fan. You don't even have to adjust the 1.50v VCore to get it up to 3700+. Anyway, the stock performance is topnotch. Overclocking is really not required though!

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James Marlin Feb 09, 2004, 03:15pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: AMD vs. INTEL
I vote AMD too,

Best performance/value ratio period. But there's another reason.
AMD is David to Intel's Goliath, and you have AMD to thank, not Intel, for the current crop of great cpu's, from either company.
If Intel had their choice we'd currently be paying $2000+ for a 1 Ghz cpu. It's competitive pressure from AMD that's pushed the performance envelope, well keeping cpu prices at a much more realistic price point.

So everything else being equal, supporting AMD, helps keep Intel from having near total market dominance, like it did in the pre-Pentium II era.
That's why I have nothing but AMD silicon in my systems.

Athlon XP M 2500+ (12x200FSB=2.4 ghz, PR 3500+), Soltek SL-75RN2-L, 1gig 3200DDR Ram, ATI X800GTO, NEC MultiSync FE991sb, Creative Audigy OEM, Logitech 5.1 speakers, 40gig HD booting XP, 200gig@50%games, Lite-On DVD burner, LG 52x32x52x

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