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Jonathan Guay Feb 23, 2004, 07:22pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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First off, thanks to everyone that take some of their precious personal time to answer questions. I really appreciate people like that.

Second, I read lots of posts about 1800 and although the problem could be seen as a display issue, it doesn't look like it is.

When I turn my Toshiba Satellite 1800 on, while plugged in, the "on" light comes on, I can hear the floppy drive do a seek (fraction of a second), and that's it. The screen doesn't come on, even if very lightly. No fans come on, the hard drive doesn't spin... it'd dead quiet.

I tried to turn it on without the battery, without the hard drive and without the extra memory. No difference. I also tried to plug in an external monitor to test the "inverter" problem lots of people seems to have. No diff.

The only way to turn it off when I try to turn it on, is to hold the power button 5-6 seconds, or unplug the AC cord.

Does anyone have any idea?

Thanks,
Jonathan


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Ben Ebel Mar 31, 2004, 01:17pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Dead Toshiba Satellite 1800??
My Toshiba Satellite (S1400-153E)

I do have the same problem. This morning it didn't start as normal, but after 3 attempts it finally started up.
A few hours ago a had to do a restart after some Win update, but it didn't start up. The screen is black,
lights on and the fan is running as normal. I do hear the short scan on my floppy when attempting to
start up, but thats all. The harddisk is quiet as in "not running at all".

Someone told me that the only solution to this problem is to get a new harddisk.
If it's not running it may mean that either the power connector is fallen off or the electric motor is gone bad.
The last may have been caused by ball bearing breakdown.
Checking the power connector one need to open up the laptop and warranty is gone if you do it your self !

If I have to bay a new harddisk all my data is gone that was not backed up. But if we are lucky some already
has a solution on getting the disk back to life.


Ben Ebel Apr 01, 2004, 10:50am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Yesterday it didn't start, but funny enough this morning it did. An hour ago when it had been running for
several hours the laptop didn't start after an attempt to restart.

This morning it was cold and started right away so I thought it had something to do with the temperatur.
I disconnected the battery charger cable and brought it outside for a quick cooling (I live in north of Norway
where its still wintertime), after 15 minutes it did start as normal.

May be time for some serious internal dusting (if its possible to open it up though).

Well this is my second posting on this topic. Am I talking to my self ? ;-)
Does anyone have the same or similar problem ?


Lenny Lion Apr 07, 2004, 10:01am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Stumbled across this thread.

The exact same problem happens with my Tosh Sat 1800 at office. Haven't found a solution yet. Complete irregularity. My IT dep hasn't a clue. I'm still trying to turn on and off and on for it to start again ... this second it restarted with no obvious reason why.

Ben Ebel Apr 07, 2004, 02:23pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Edited: Apr 07, 2004, 02:30pm EDT

 
>> Re: Dead Toshiba Satellite 1800??
I belive Satellite 1800 and 1400 has the same cooling system, so:

I recently spoke with a computer technician who said that this problem might have something to do with the CPU cooling. There is a gas filled pipe running from the side (in front of the fan) of the laptop through the CPU cooling shell and back. If the gas for some reason has escaped, the cooling isn't efficient enough as it should be. No response when you try to restart is a cooling health warning. If you also notice that the laptop isn't running as fast as it used to, the CPU might be running on slow due to overheating (another warning signal).

Are you having the same characteristics on your laptop you better have a technician to look at it.

Ryan Duncan Nov 17, 2004, 11:53am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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I hope you get this.
I have had virtually the same problem with my toshiba 1800.

I hadn't used it in capuole of months, then one day I set it up and it started to boot up I head the disk spin, the screen flickered and then nothing.

Since then, every time I try to restart it it poer indicator light comes on and nothing happens at all. No disk check, no screen, nothing. If I leave the power on for a couple of minutes, the fan kicks on but thats it.

I have suspected it might have something to do with the BIOS, but since the keyboard won't resond and it wont check for a disk in the disk drive, I can't figure a way around it.

Did anyone ever come up with a solution.

R. Duncan

Eugene Nov 21, 2004, 09:49am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Hi,

Well I have 1800-314 and same problem with start up. I am absolutely sure that it is a mainboard failure, because I was repairing Toshiba laptops for two yeas and could never fix this probolem myself. The solution was always one: changing the mainboard.

At least this is what Toshiba was always doing. It is very expensive, but... warranty helps!

Personally, I suspect it has something to do with power/charging part on a main board. It feels like there is not enough power to "kick" the start, sort of like a capacitor is dead.

I have about 10 broken mainboards, of 1800, and all with the same problem. I think that solution might be to contact a repair centre, - NOT TOSHIBA SERVICE. The repair guys migh give hints as wehere to look for a solution. Toshiba would change mainboard rather than give away a schematic map of mainboard.

By the way, this problem is not only with 1800 series. I was reparing 4320 series - same problems and even worse. Sometimes 4320 would not work without AC adapter, sometimes it would not start at all. Sometimes it would charge a battery.

Morover, Tecra 9100 is a similar crap. Again, problems with power. New battery might run for 10 min, macnihe restarts and etc. A friend of mine changed mainboard 4 times in 2 years!!! In fact, Toshiba recognized that Tecra 9100 has engineering problem. But Tecra 9000 was a very successful model for example.

I suspect TOSHIBA must really work on "power" issues with its laptops. Maybe they use crapy parts for power blocks on mainboard.

In short, all of us with same problem should look for repair guys to find a solutuon. And these guys should be in India, Pakistan, Iraná Mexico or maybe in Easter European countries, where it is cheaper to repair than change a mainboard.

Regards,
Eugene
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Aaron Regnier Dec 07, 2004, 09:49pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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No way. This is compleatly heinous. I have the same problem w/ the Satalitte A15-xxxxxx. So just because I spent $1100 on a laptop, I am expacted to replace the motherboard time after time?!? I'm only 15, I don't have alot of money to blow on motherboards. If I was to get mine serviced, where would be best? Is there anything to fix it if I do get it running again with the same motherboard? Thanks

Clayton Covell Dec 14, 2004, 03:09am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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I'm having a similar problem with an 1805-S203. Power will work, but no POST (i.e. the hard drive does not initialize and read). There may be a quick read of the floppy and it may try to read the hard drive, but eventually it fails. I also get a CHECK SUM ERROR (ROM) from time to time as well. From my experience, this means that "yes" the systemboard is toast to some extent, but I was wondering if there is a definitive answer. I'm going to try and test the harddrive but was wondering if anyone knew a good place to find replacement parts. Much appreciated.

Boot Camp Mar 08, 2005, 04:07am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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I have the same problem. Yesteday evening it worked while at home....On getting to the office this morning..the damn thing shows the power-on lieght but no POST, nothing runs..its dead silent.

Plus if i try opening the thing, there seems to be a hidden screw below the power-on button that i cant reach..so no success in getting to the mother board. Anyone who knows how to open a Toshiba satelite 1800 S203?

gareth poole Mar 10, 2005, 01:27pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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my dads friend has a toshiba satellite 1800 - 314 and he brought it to me because it was broke as i do a college IT course and he wanted me to repair it. Well, i tried to turn it on but as a few people have mentioned, the panel doesn't power on, the FDD seeks for a second, but then nothing else happens. So after thinking for a while, i connected the laptop to an external monitor and wen the laptop was turned on, the monitor come to life! It said that there was a CMOS error and press F1 to enter the setup, which i pressed F1. Then up came a screen with settings for the laptop and one of the settings said : POWER UP MODE the setting for this was set to BOOT. i changed this to RESUME and another option appeared at the bottom right hand side of the setings which said : PANEL POWER ON/OFF and this was set to OFF. I changed this to on, pressed the end key to save the settings, and restarted and the laptop worked fine! Hope this helps you. = Gareth=

Boot Camp Mar 11, 2005, 03:31am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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This thing buffles me. It now boots but after loading the operating system (win2k) screen, it gives a blue screen that asks me to check any new HDD controllers installed or check if the HDD is corrupted or if its well connected and terminated and hangs there.

On pressing the power ON/OFF button, it gives beeps and waits for 30 seconds before closing down dead. It doesnt start any more but after another 30 mins, it is able to boot but again hangs at the smae point.

I have tried booting it using the Win2k CD but again hangs after 1 minute of bootup.

What could this be? Anyone??

Boot Camp


jonny wright Mar 11, 2005, 02:32pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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OH my word I have exaclty this problem what a nightmare! i have my laptop fully appart and there is nothing obvious i have tried a diffrent cpu and its still the same the fan kicks in now and then but nothing just the power light? has any one tried diffrent ram? because i dont have any spare maybe it could be the ram I read that toshiba laptop ram can be problematic?

cheers jonny

jonny wright Mar 11, 2005, 02:40pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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ops it is aToshiba Satellite 1800 1100/256/20gig

i have it in bits and there is power to the cd drive and hdd but it seem that what ever component switches it on isnt the power button test ok with a meter ive traced it right back its ok oh well i will keep trying maybe the bios is toast but i cant find the blumming thing! any ideas?

jonny

David Southerland Mar 16, 2005, 12:55pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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I have the same problem with my laptop, a $1900 Satellite P15-S420 =( Here's what I was doing before the problem:

1) Swapping out SODIMM modules to troubleshoot which one had problems. My 512 module had some problems booting up my pc. I noticed that swapping it out fixed the problem.

2) Removed the ventilation grid from bottom of notebook so that I could use compressed air to clean out the dust from the two fans and the heat sink. I noticed a little ball of my cat's fur spinning around in one of the fans which I removed.

3) Replaced ventilation grid and went to sleep.

4) Turned on pc next morning and experienced similar symptoms: Turn on power, nothing shows up on display, hear a little bit of hard-drive noise, fans kick in, no hard-drive light, fans seem to operate when they need to, the Atheros on-board WI-FI LED does not illuminate like it normally does, and that's about it.

To no avail, I tried using different memory modules, connected a different monitor, dissassembled the fan/heatsink components to take another look, cleaned, then reassembled, took the entire laptop apart to check if compressed air by some chance disconnected anything, and I noticed nothing physically wrong. I'm ready to take the laptop to a pc-shop to see if they can do anything about it. But before I do, I'll swap out hard-drives. I have a spare hard-drive that I used Norton Ghost on, so I should be able to plug n' play with no problems if it is the drive, but I'm doubting it. I'll post the results of that test.

David Southerland Mar 16, 2005, 01:39pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Ok, tried swapping out hard drives, but as I suspected that was not the problem. All that I can conclude at this point is that I fubared my lapbop by removing the ventilation grid and using a can of compressed air to do a thorough cleaning of dust on the fan and heatsink apparatus.

Funny though, because I had done it before (without removing the ventilation grid) and everything worked out fine in the past. Perhaps I hit something at a bad angle with too powerful and direct of an air current?? Or maybe the little ball of cat fur spun around in the fan fast enough to build up a negative charge, zapping some components on the mainboard?? Unlikely, but possible? I guess next thing to do is get a price estimate on what it costs to fix this mess =(

J T Mar 17, 2005, 03:58pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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I have the same problem with my Toshiba 1805-s203. At first, i thought it was a hd issue. But i had a spare hd and tried it out and it still wouldn't boot. Then i thought it was a memory issue, but when i got the computer to actually boot, memtest didnt find any errors. Browsing forums, i hear that the computer wont boot sometimes if it cant detect the ram in the system since it needs part of it for the video ram. I can get my computer working again sometimes when i take the ram out and reseat them. So, maybe the problem is that the mb isnt detecting the ram slots. Since i havent had time to dissassemble my laptop again, I havent been able to test the components on the mb. It could just be a capacitor or some connector loose on the motherboard, which i can check when i get a chance.

David Southerland Mar 18, 2005, 12:22pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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JT,

Thanks so much for the advice. Turns out I had a bad 512meg module that would boot up my pc like 1 out of 20 times =p I put in a new module and voila, booted. I should have thought back to when a technician tried putting some PC3100 ram in my laptop which can handle no higher than PC2100. The symptoms were the same as they are now. You saved me much $$$ and time in rescussitating my laptop. Thanks again.

Ammar Shans Jun 21, 2005, 11:37am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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hi,
Has anyone find any solution to this problem. Mine is definately not a memory problem.
thnx

Andrew Grothe Nov 13, 2005, 04:07pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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This thread seams pretty old, but for those stumbling on it like I did, i'll add my info. I have a toshiba 1800 1PK, with the same problem. Press power button, get power led, and nothing. No fan, no screen nothing.

Interesting though, that when I scrapped it down, and put it back together again, PRESTO, it started! After I put all the screws back in, no go at all. So i took it all apart again, and slowly started putting all the screws back in. Right now, ive narrowed it down to the 3-5 screws in the back, on the bottom.

I have a feeling it has to do with a short or problem when tightening the screw right by the AC input. Once i take the notebook apart and put it back togther once more, I"ll post my observations for everyone who may read this thread.

Cheers!

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Miguel Costa Nov 19, 2005, 11:06am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Dead Toshiba Satellite 1800??
Hello all.

I've been having similar problems with my satellite 1800-504 (celeron 1GHz), and this seems to be a far too common problem, so let's see if my tests can help find a common solution.

First of all, my satellite also has a problem with the inverter (backlight fails) - it was replaced once while stll on warranty and now it's failing again - opening the panel, disconnecting the inverter and puting it back again usually helps for about a week... but at least it worked.

Now it fails to power on most of the time - sometimes it boots, seems slow and once it seemed to loose power while working and completely ruined a linux partition.

When it doesn't boot, only one light comes on and even the fan doesn't start, nothing happens.

Even if I completely remove the panel, hard disk, even keyboard, most of the time nothing happens but sometimes it boots (yes it boots without keyboard, panel and hard disk - after a while I can hear it accessing a boot CD or checking for a floppy disk)

So, this seems to rule out the panel or inverter, or hard disk.

When it does boot, it's usually after disconnecting the power cable and putting it back, which would agree with what some people in the thread said about power to the mainboard, but I wouldn't exclude a cooling problem...

Anyway, I'll post back if I make any progress.

Cheers,
miguel


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