This is going a bit too far. It's starting to look like witch hunt, or at least some serious Tyan/AMD bashing. After demonstrating some pretty pre-opiniated, and from my experience faulty or inaccurate opinions at the address of AMD, together with 3 frontpage articles within 2 weeks of each other about one and the same subject, this site sure lost a lot of at least its appearance of objectivity. Intel is not all holy and AMD is not second rate crap. And of course the reverse is also not true.
You are supposed to be an independant hardware review site. Show independance. Honesty is fair, jumping the gun and bashing a product at the fist chance just because you have a problem is not.
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This looks like a well thought out article to me. It appears to be accurate, brief and clear, as well as being balanced. It states that many people have reported problems, and that other sources have had less (or no) problems. I fail to see why you felt it necessary to make these comment
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From one Dutchman to another, what exactly do you think qualifies as opiniated? I mean, we've gone out of our way to work with Tyan on resolving our and most importantly other people's issues, and they just seem to be rather unwilling. I'm not sure if you've read any of our previous columns or the two news updates about the matter, but if not, you should, prior to posting comments such as this.
Perhaps you might also like to check out some of the forums on other sites where there are some much less reserved comments over the difficulties people are having, but remember that's also pretty unlikely to be from people who think AMD is "second rate crap" as many of them have just forked out a large sum of money to try and build this system for themselves.
I think the coverage on this site has been pretty fair so far, and as someone who is considering getting this board I am very appreciative of the regular updates we are getting on the situation. If this whole situation turns out to be a couple of duff PSUs and a manual misprint I still think the coverage is fair because I know I would have been likely to encounter the same problem and very unlikely to have got more of a response from the parties involved.
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I have read all 3 articles and maybe i did put it a lil strong, because the relative and objective info is there, however i do feel its overshadowed by a bias against amd. Im not a zealot either way. I own both and both have their pro's and cons. Sorry if i offended you, but take it as constructive critism: Everyone has their personal preferences, however imo a reviewsite that intends to give non-colored representation of facts should (try) to refraine from giving personal opinions.
Addition: what i basically mean is this. Had you put all 3 articles together, adding updates to the first and announcing it as updates, it would have given a whole different perception than now with 3 frontpage articles, which just looks like trashing/bashing/jumping the bandwagon for extra hits at the expense of.
For the record, i *know* thats not the case, however, its easily perceived as such.
I think I see what afterburn is saying, for me the whole thing comes across as a pretty balanced reaction, but one from the point of view of personal experience (as in how an end user might feel about being in that particular position) rather than the kind of tight-lipped-till-proven-100%-guilty approach some sites might take. I found it quite refreshing to be honest, but I can see how it differs from what people might be used to.
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Indeed DaveO, when I visit site, I expect straight fact, uncolored by the personal opinion or experiences of the reviewers. Of course reviewing a job done by humans, so that is an utopia, however it should be as 'clean' as possible, so that the reader can form its own judgement and opinion based on facts, rather than the opinion of the writer. When I want to read personal opinions or experiences, I visit a forum.