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Christopher Rouland Mar 10, 2004, 11:41pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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I am using a computer that I built about a year and a half ago. Recently, it has begun freezing shortly after my computer boots up. It has never frozen while booting up, but shortly after I begin working on it, it freezes. I checked to make sure it wasn't overheating, and it is not. It is well ventilated with fans, and they are all working properly. The second thing i tried was replacing the power supply. This did not solve the problem either. I'm thinking that it could be the motherboard. I was looking at it the other day and noticed that a few of the capacitors are brown on top. I think that they may be corroded. Could this be causing my problems? I want to try and find out exactly what's wrong so that I do not replace the wrong part. Any recommendations or comments are welcome. Thanks a lot!


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Jim Jenkins Mar 10, 2004, 11:46pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Computer freezes shortly after startup. Motherboard problem??? Please help!
What point during the boot up process does your computer freeze? Have your cappasitors always been brown on top? Some are made that color.

Christopher Rouland Mar 10, 2004, 11:53pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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It doesn't freeze while booting up. It logs into windows, and then freezes shortly thereafter. They capaticors on my motherboard are all silver on top. Like metal. I tried scraping the top of a capacitor w/ my nail, and it came off and showed the metal underneath.

Jim L Mar 11, 2004, 01:19am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Christopher,

Reading your posts was somewhat like "deja vu all over again" :(. Our situation was somewhat different than yours, but similar in that I found 3 caps that had some stuff on top, and thought it was the motherboard. So, I went out last weekend and got a new motherboard (and RAM, because her old motherboard used PC133). We brought the whole kit and kaboodle home, plugged it in, and guess what?

Wouldn't boot :(!

Back to the shop, and, after them working on it for awhile, in the end, it turned out to be the power supply.

I noted that you already tried changing power supply, so I guess that's not your problem, but the point is that it may not be the motherboard, even with the caps (BTW, I had desoldered the caps from the old motherboard (long story) and after we figured out the power supply thing, we powered the old board up, without the 3 caps, and it booted). I'm not saying it's not the caps, but it may not be, especially since you can boot all the way into Windows.

A couple of ideas:

- Have you checked/tested memory with a standalone test program. If not, try DocMemory (http://www.simmtester.com) or memtest (do a Google search). I've had many flaky problems that turned out to be bad memory, where Windows would run, but then start acting flaky.
- Have you tried booting Windows into Safe Mode (press F8 while booting)? Windows won't load drivers in Safe Mode, so if it's some kind of driver that's bad or corrupted, booting into Safe Mode may give you a hint about that.

Try those things, and post back.

Good luck,
Jim

angryhippy Mar 11, 2004, 03:37am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Check your CMOS battery.

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Christopher Rouland Mar 11, 2004, 02:32pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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I tested all of my RAM, and they all checked out okay. It's weird, because I could run my program forever in the program that tested my ram, which was before Windows loaded, but once i log in, it freezes relatively quickly. within 5 or 10 minutes. I don't understand it. Any other help is welcome! I'm gonna try to start it in safe mode and see if it freezes. Thanks for the help so far.

angryhippy Mar 11, 2004, 02:45pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Is it freezing up in Windows when IE is open? If it is, hit "Start > Run and type in:
REGSVR32 URLMON.DLL , hit enter, click OK and reboot. Next,
go to IE/Tools/Internet Options/Programs/Reset Web Settings and click apply"

Then
"Go to Start > Run and type in: rundll32.exe setupapi,InstallHinfSection
DefaultInstall 132 C:\windows\inf\ie.inf
and hit "Enter".

Then open IE > Tools > Options > Program tab, and click on "Reset Web
Settings" and click "Apply".

Note: This assumes XP is installed on your "C' partition. If XP is
installed on a partition other than "C", use the correct partition
letter when performing this reinstall of IE". Make sure you hit enter where it says enter and not OK on the run window

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Christopher Rouland Mar 12, 2004, 01:07am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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I took the advice from above, and started my computer in Safe Mode. It did not freeze in safe mode for well over 4 hours. Does this mean that there is a driver problem? Do i have to check and reinstall all of them? Does this include CD-ROM drivers, and video card, sound card, and all of them? Thanks again for the help.

Carter Sudeith Mar 12, 2004, 01:12am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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You could try uninstalling ALL devices and then rebooting and letting XP resolve all the stuff. This is what Linux is for!

Ali Jawad Mar 12, 2004, 01:29am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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what are the system specs? do you have 2 or more sticks of memory installed? i recently found out that some motherboards don't like it if you have two sticks of different densities. for example on my system i have two 256mb pc2700's and a 512mb pc3200 (all from crucial.com). windows woulld boot all the way but shortly afterwards it would restart unexpectedly. i removed the 512mb and it works find now. later i'll try rearranging the modules to see if that solves my problem. i also did a bios update to see if that was the problem. i'll have the results within the next day or so.

anyway, i know that this doesn't solve your problem but its always nice to know your not the only one with the same problem. let me know if you figure it out.

My Sys:
Athlon XP 2500 (Barton)
Gigabyte GA-7VAXP (Revision 1.1 - F15 Bios)
Crucial 256MB PC2700 x 3
ATI Radeon 9600 Pro AIW
Western Digital Cavier 40gb @ 7200rpm + 8meg cache
Seagate 20gb @ 5400rpm
Antec Smart Blue 350W
Christopher Rouland Mar 12, 2004, 01:29am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Is that what the problem is though? Drivers? Because of the whole safe mode thing? I've already tried reinstalling a lot of them, but it hasn't helped yet.

Christopher Rouland Mar 13, 2004, 03:09pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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I think i might have figured out the problem. I "think" that it was a bad driver for my motherboard. I updated it and my computer seems to be working, but i'll let you know how it ends up.

Christopher Rouland Mar 14, 2004, 01:26pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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I thought that it was driver related, but this may not be the case. All of my drivers are updated now, and I'm still having the same problems. I updated the drivers for my motherboard chipset, which is a VIA, and still the same problem. Any thoughts?

richard wroten Mar 14, 2004, 02:33pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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What are your system specs?

Christopher Rouland Mar 14, 2004, 07:04pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Athlon 1800
640 MB SDRAM
ATI Radeon 7200
Shuttle AK11 Motherboard
WD 80 GB Hard Drive
Philips PSC706 Sound Card
Windows XP

angryhippy Mar 14, 2004, 07:18pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Is the onboard audio disabled in the BIOS? Did you uninstall your chipset drivers before installing the new 4in1s'?

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Christopher Rouland Mar 14, 2004, 07:25pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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How do i uninstall my old chipset drivers?

angryhippy Mar 14, 2004, 08:09pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Download the VIA 4 in 1 drivers and save them to your computer. Go to the install uninstall programs section in the control panel. Find the Via drivers and uninstall them. Don't restart your computer. Go to Start/Right click My Computer/Hardware tab/Device Manager/IDE ATA/ATAPI controllers. You will see Via, and there will be a primary IDE and Secondary IDE Channel settings. Just use the Via one. I'm trying to remember how the VIA ones look I have Intel. Anyway double click on the Via one and go to the Driver Tab. Click on Uninstall, then OK. Reboot your computer. When the desktop comes up it will say found new hardware in a balloon at the bottom right. Leave it be and it will install the default drivers that came with the XP. Then open the Via drivers download and install them over the XP drivers. Reboot.

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Christopher Rouland Mar 14, 2004, 10:14pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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I did the thing of going into the device manager and uninstalling the VIA controller, BUT I can't remove the VIA drivers in teh add/remove programs. There's nothing from VIA in there. Any thoughts?

angryhippy Mar 15, 2004, 01:56am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Then don't worry about it, just install the 4 in1s after you uninstall in device manager and reboot.

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Christopher Rouland Mar 15, 2004, 04:22pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Okay, i did that, and it's frozen twice since then, which has been about a day. So that's a lot better than it was, but it still shouldn't freeze. Any thoughts?


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