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Brian Taberski Apr 02, 2004, 04:11pm EST Report Abuse
I have a Asus A7n8x Deluxe rev 2
I bought a SATA drive Maxtor
I installed it fine...the OS is on it fine it works great.
But when I try to put my EIDE drive in as extra storage...it wont boot to that SATA drive.
I checked all the setting in the Bios and they are right according to multiple web sites.
Its been driving me nuts for days...and I'm about to shoot the thing.
When I take off the EIDE drive it boots to the SATA drive fine.
Is there a certain EIDE channel its supposed to be on?
Or should t be empty on the Primary channel?
The other drive was a previous slave of one of my old drives there should be NO boot partition on it.
Please help...all drivers are up to date including bios.


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Brendan Falvey Apr 02, 2004, 04:28pm EST Report Abuse
>> Re: SATA as master and wont boot when EIDE is hooked up
I suspect your question about SAT and EIDE on the one channel is correct.

It is unlikely that the channel would be able to mediate between the SATA data stream and the EIDE data stream on the same channel since one is parallel and one is serial. Easy to test by moving the EIDE drive onto the secondary IDE channel. If you intend to use the Secondary IDE for two removeable drives then you have two options.

The SATA drive is obviously much larger than the IDE drive just copy and dump the IDE drive.

Ther are cards available that provide extra IDE channels

If these options do not work or are unacceptable it is probabaly best to ask ASUS.
Brendan

Brian Taberski Apr 02, 2004, 04:46pm EST Report Abuse
>> Re: SATA as master and wont boot when EIDE is hooked up
Extra controller cards? I tried that route as well but to no avail it will still boot to the EIDE instead of the SATA.....just hope nothing is wrong with my board....if need be I'll make snapshots of the BIOS settings and post linked pics to give you guys an idea.

Jim B..... Apr 02, 2004, 07:07pm EST Report Abuse
>> Re: SATA as master and wont boot when EIDE is hooked up
Hi

Have you tried setting first boot device to Scsi.

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Brian Taberski Apr 03, 2004, 09:52am EST Report Abuse
>> Re: SATA as master and wont boot when EIDE is hooked up
I already tried that as well....still nothing :( This has been like this for over 4 weeks now......I joined tons of forums and ran htrough just about everything.....I even went as far as to re-flash my bios with the Uber Bios so that it gives me more options....tried that still nothing. Like I said though it runs great no problems at all...its just when I try to add the EIDE drives then it doesn't boot to the SATA....there are no jumpers on it the SATA.....and I went through tons of people telliing me to try cable select on the EIDE....and a bunch of different configurations.....even read the mo-bo manual fifty times....all the jumpers on the board are set right as far as I know. I ran through every option so far....its getting me depressed lol.

Jim B..... Apr 03, 2004, 11:44am EST Report Abuse
>> Re: SATA as master and wont boot when EIDE is hooked up
Try disabling First-Second-Third Boot Devices, and Enable Boot Other Device.

Jim

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Brendan Falvey Apr 04, 2004, 06:04pm EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: SATA as master and wont boot when EIDE is hooked up
Two thoughs

Firstly there I found reference to a IDE SATA convertor simply take old drive and attach board and connect to the SATA cable.

Also the IDE drive was your boot disk I suggest you change the jumper from Master to slave this may inhibit its inhibiting its propensity to take control
Brendan

Brendan Falvey Apr 04, 2004, 06:04pm EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: SATA as master and wont boot when EIDE is hooked up
Two thoughs

Firstly there I found reference to a IDE SATA convertor simply take old drive and attach board and connect to the SATA cable.

Also the IDE drive was your boot disk I suggest you change the jumper from Master to slave this may inhibit its inhibiting its propensity to take control
Brendan

Captain Mubbers Apr 05, 2004, 04:22pm EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: SATA as master and wont boot when EIDE is hooked up
Don't worry you're not alone! :(

I found this thread thorugh a quick search on google.

I recently built a new machine on a ASUS P4P800 Delux mobo. I've a SATA Maxtor HDD and everything was fine OS installed and machine working fine. I decided to plug in my old ATA drives to reformat etc... and now the SATA drive won't even appear in the boot list :(

This appears to be a serious flaw in the bios allowing this situation to arise.

Brian Taberski Apr 05, 2004, 11:27pm EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: SATA as master and wont boot when EIDE is hooked up
I'm thankful to you all I fixed it here is what I did:

disabled Enable Boot Other Device and all the others on the options like first second and so on and it worked.....then I renabled the first one to be floppy and so on to what ever else I had attatched....and again for some reason it worked.....thanks Jim. Now I'm one happy camper :)

Jim B..... Apr 06, 2004, 11:47am EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: SATA as master and wont boot when EIDE is hooked up
N1 Brian

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Niels Oegema Apr 13, 2004, 02:45am EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: SATA as master and wont boot when EIDE is hooked up
w00t i had the same problem and exactly the same mobo and hd. thanx for the great answer.

Niels Oegema Apr 13, 2004, 08:47am EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: SATA as master and wont boot when EIDE is hooked up
mmm it isn't working yet it seems my computer freezes in the post screen apparently when its loading/trying to detect my ide drive (is it bad that there are boot files on it from a previous installation?)

Jim B..... Apr 13, 2004, 09:40am EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: SATA as master and wont boot when EIDE is hooked up
Hi Niels

If the h/d as an OS on it from another Motherboard, then this could be the problem, it would be best to do a fresh install.

Jim

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Niels Oegema Apr 13, 2004, 01:04pm EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: SATA as master and wont boot when EIDE is hooked up
this is what i did:

i had windows installed on my sata disk and the windows installer automatically installed some other stuff on my ide drive (some boot files and some other system files)

i wanted to have a game so i pulled my ide drive out (which i use as backup) and bring it over to him and he puts the game on it.

After i returned home i put the ide hd back in my pc and when i put the pc back on the pc freezes when in the post screen.

So when i pulled the plug outta my ide drive and booted on my sata disk everything was fine and after installing windows xp on the sata disk again (that was necisary because apperantly there wasn't a os on my sata disk :S) i put my ide drive back in and once again the pc freezes again in the post screen (i think because of some bug when trying to detect the master devices (my ide drive). Everything runned fine when i pulled the plug out of my IDE disk again. Also i set my this are a few BIOS settings:

Primary Boot Device: SCSI (SATA DISK)
Secondary Boot Device: Disabled
Third Boot Device: Disabled

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Dr. Peaceful Apr 20, 2004, 05:32pm EDT Report Abuse
>> SATA sucks! RAID is a scam!
See my new post!

Brendan Falvey Apr 21, 2004, 01:46am EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: SATA as master and wont boot when EIDE is hooked up
Niels
Go into Settings|Control Panel|Computermanagement|Disk Management and see what Windows believes is there. If its not there go back to BIOS and monster irt again and any or all of the preceding. If it is try a Windows repair at boot sinc ethis may unhook any problems. Remember that NT based windows inserts software between the hardware and the OS kernel and is called the hardware abstraction layer and it is unique to each hardware configuration so a setup on yer mates green frog brand wont really work on your puppy dog brand without a repair as a minimum. also the drivers are different causing more problems
Brendan



 

    
 
 

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