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mdm22 Apr 22, 2004, 03:31pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Gray Mole Apr 22, 2004, 03:50pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Which is the best AMD processor for gaming?
funny enough...none of those are really any different than the other...

they're all barton chips and relatively equal to each other...especially if you overclock the lowest one it can be equal to the highest...

what you want to look at if it's in your range is either...

the 2500-mobile and overclock it...will run to 2.5ghz with a decent cooler...

the 64bit 2800 if you can find it...it may not clock as high but the 64bit tech and different memory control and all the other nifty abilities of the processor make it better for gaming than a standard issue barton...

price wise it's more expensive right now to get into 64 bit stuff...

if you want to do it cheap as you can...stick with the barton 2500 and get a mobile processor and read up on some overclock reviews for what to do to it...

if you've got a bit more to spend get a 64bit chip...whatever the speed rating...as it's better for gaming...

gaming seems to rely on memory control and that's where 64bit chips are much better...

the only thing i don't like about the 64bit chip in 2800 is it's slower 1.6ghz compared to xp 2.1ghz...

the choice is yours, but i'm sure you'll spend that money eventually...:)

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ROY G Apr 22, 2004, 04:24pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Which is the best AMD processor for gaming?
go cheap !

mdm22 Apr 22, 2004, 05:20pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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read couple of reviews on the net about the AMD 2500 and none of them recommended it for gaming saying it was kind of slow! do any other users using AMD proccesers APART from the new AMD 64 range play graphics rich fast demanding games with the processors if you do which one you using and how does it run and what motherboards are recommended with amd processors?
im not to clever at this computer stuff whats clocking?
and this must be a stupid question for you to answer for me but how much mhz is in a gb? does it stand for a thousand or something how do you find out the mhz of a processor and why do some say for example AMD 2600 333mhz whats that 33mhz at the end about is it to do with the bus ports or something like that? and on amd products for example amd 2500, amd 3200 what do the numbers stand for?

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Gray Mole Apr 22, 2004, 06:07pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Which is the best AMD processor for gaming?
phew...

ok basically you're pretty green when it comes to the workings of a computer and that's ok...

your best bet is to buy the best you can...the numbers of the amd equipment ie 3200xp or 2500xp or whatever it is are there to give you an idea of what intel chip it's equivalent to...

a 3200xp is supposed to be the same as a 3.2ghz intel p4

and 1000mhz = 1 ghz megahertz...gigahertz...

that said...you'll need to do a fair bit of research if you're going to go the cheap route buying equipment...

as i said you can buy the cheaper components and overclock them safely but you need to know how...otherwise you're stuck buying the best you can afford and using them at stock speeds...

overclocking is tuning your computer's parts as fast as they can go, faster than their normal, recommended settings are...

and to do that without damaging them you'll need to know more about it than you do...

this http://www.vr-zone.com/guides/AMD/Barton/ can give you an idea of what speeds have been reached and what settings people are using to get there as well as what motherboards they use...

this http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=207088 is a guide to the basics of overclocking...i call them basics but there's a lot there...

if you're still interested by them time you've read through that to go for it just post a thread asking for some recommendations on what parts to buy and you'll get all the help you need...

Gray


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Chris P Apr 22, 2004, 06:25pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Which is the best AMD processor for gaming?
the 333Mhz is the bus speed, the easyest way to discribe it is that it is a bus/bus lane, information gets passed up and down this lane to processor, the bigger the number the bigger the lane, so a 333Mhz is twice as big or wide as a 166 bus, so it can handle more information.


An XP2500 will be plenty for games, Ive been running the latest games on a 1Ghz athlon with out any problms, i think the 2500 has a speed of 1.8Ghz or around that area, the most demanding game i have seen is Max Payne 2, which requires a minimum of a 1.1Ghz processor.

The only reason why people get these really fast processors is (1), they have processor intensive work, e.g, SETI(like me) or encoding sound or video files or other work which requires a lot of processing power, (2) they want to show it off to there mates, cause no games need that amount of processing power, (yet)


I would go for the 2500 in your situation, they are plenty powerful, and cheap as well.
Sorry if its a bit to much to understand, but if you doo need help, just ask.


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mdm22 Apr 23, 2004, 10:57am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Which is the best AMD processor for gaming?
so i could be able to play some of the new games like 'battle field vietnam which requires 933 mhz' smoothly with no problem with the AMD 2500 what about the AMD 2800 would that be better in my situation or no difference? what top new graphics card, sound card, motherboard and 512mb rams,disk drives, should i memory buy with the processor to get the best out of it any suggestions?
oh yeh! what is this i am seeing about overheating of the processor? what and how many fans do you suggest i buy with this? any help from people playing graphics rich 3d games on an AMD 2500-2800 or someone who knows there pc's would be greatly apreacited!

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Roy Davis Apr 23, 2004, 12:56pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Which is the best AMD processor for gaming?
Get yourself an Abit NF7-S motherboard, an xp2500, 512Mb (or better still 1Gb) of pc3200 RAM and a 9800 pro vid card and you should be able to play anything. That setup should also overclock to a xp3200 spec without much trouble when you're ready.

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mdm22 Apr 23, 2004, 02:33pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Edited: Apr 23, 2004, 02:35pm EDT

 
>> Re: Which is the best AMD processor for gaming?
could users suggest the best and latest compatible parts to get with the AMD 2500+ FOR MAXIMUM PERFORMANCE
i am buying from ebuyer.co.uk so anyone who knows it well could you tell me the parts from that site
here are the parts i need to know about: help is very much apreciated
GRAPHICS CARD
SOUND CARD
MOTHERBOARD
512 RAM
DISK DRIVE
COMPUTER CASES (ones that dont overheat that much)
and feel free to suggest any other hardware parts you think i may need.

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Jim Harr Apr 23, 2004, 04:45pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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kevin schumaker Apr 23, 2004, 05:48pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Dont get any of those 3 cards......

What you need is a AMD Athlon 2600+ Xp (Barton of course) has 400FSB. Then you get a phat cooling fan and over clock it to a 3200+. It will run stable too. cheap way to get fast performance out of an AMD.

mdm22 Apr 24, 2004, 07:49am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Will Olson II Apr 24, 2004, 10:15am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Which is the best AMD processor for gaming?
If your not into Overclocking the 2800+barton through the 3200+ barton or if ya got big bucks go for a 64bit any "new" Athlon 2500-3200(barton) will be great for gamming and you'd be satisfied depends on what ya want overcloking or just a CPU and how many BUCKS ya got.

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mdm22 Apr 24, 2004, 12:13pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Thomas Pickett Apr 24, 2004, 12:59pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Which is the best AMD processor for gaming?
I've got a 2800 with 2x512 of 3200 mem. I think it runs the games real good.
Just ordered a radeon 9800 now that the prices have dropped. Been getting by with an nvidea ti 4200.
Something I haven't seen mentioned in the posts so far is that you should be sure to get a quality power supply especially with a radeon 9800 card. I hear those puppies really use the juice.
If your going to clock at all I'd recommend the best, and biggest power supply you can afford. You'll never regret it.


Carter Sudeith Apr 24, 2004, 01:11pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Which is the best AMD processor for gaming?
Right now video cards are changing very fast. I would go light on graphics power and heavy on CPU, at least until you can afford the newer line of cards.
For the CPU get the A64 2800+ with a K8T800 chipset board (or nForce 3 250 if you can afford/find it) and normal PC3200 will work. Graphics I'd say a 9800SE or 5700 would work wonders. If you're a computer hardware newbie, opt for the 5700 as these cards are low maintainence.

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>> Re: Which is the best AMD processor for gaming?
I Have read a couple of posts that say the amd 2500 have been multiple locked how are people now overclocking these?
any 1 know how much a Nvidia GeForce4 or a graphics card that near equivilant costs in the uk these days?
how much is this radeon 9800 pro everyone seems to have?
Anyone help with my Questions?
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Lawrence Heffernan Apr 25, 2004, 05:28am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Which is the best AMD processor for gaming?
for the record, the A64 2800+ is a 1.8Ghz 512K L2 chip nowdays (not the 1.6GHz 1MB L2 chip it used to be).
Also, MHz do not matter. If a game said it needed a 2.4GHz CPU, it wouldn't mean that an Athlon 3200+ (2.2GHz) couldn't run it, Durons, Athlons and Athlon 64 are more efficient then their P4 counterparts

mdm22 Apr 25, 2004, 10:02am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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could someone tell me what OEM stands for? for example amd anthlon 2500+ OEM or radeon 9800 pro OEM. what does the oem stand for. sorry if its a stupid question for you lot to answer but i need to know thanks.

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Shadow_Ops_Airman1 Apr 26, 2004, 09:08am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Only Drawback of the AMD XP series and below, HEAT, HEAT, AND MORE HEAT, get a good cooler for them, dont be a cheap ass and get a lousy cooler, oh and look at http://www.arcticsilver.com for all of their thermal solutions.

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tom Apr 26, 2004, 09:36am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Which is the best AMD processor for gaming?
Urm, pretty obvious really, the statistical answer would be the AMD Athlon FX53


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