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King Gregory May 06, 2004, 12:42am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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I have a Dell Optiplex running:
-3.2G P4 with HT 800mhz FSB
-1G RAM
-Dell motherboard with a Intel 865G chipset
-250W power supply

I desperately want to get a next gen video card, such as a ati X800, but it requires at least 300 watts maybe evan upwards of 480watts like the Nvidia 6800. If I upgrade my power supply to something like an ATX 580Watt Wraith will it totally fry mys**t? Is there a standard output for these things? Please, some1 help.


Northwood P4 3.2GHz Hyper Threading @3.35GHz
Intel D875PBZLK FMB mobo
2 x 60 GB RAID 0 Data Burst (120 GB)
1024mb Kingston dual 265x2 (kind of in-between upgrading now)
BFG 6800 Ultra OC : D
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ray Stephens May 06, 2004, 12:44am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Can upgrading my power supply fry my components?
Since you have a proprietary Dell the only power supply you can buy would be from Dell for your specific brand! DO NOT BUY ANY POWER SUPPLY, or you will fry your computer. You need to call Dell to make sure and get one that is compatible.

King Gregory May 06, 2004, 01:08am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Can upgrading my power supply fry my components?
Dell told me to F*ck off and they can't help me. Would investing in a motherboard help? If so, can any1 suggest a good motherboard or case to put my hardware in?

Northwood P4 3.2GHz Hyper Threading @3.35GHz
Intel D875PBZLK FMB mobo
2 x 60 GB RAID 0 Data Burst (120 GB)
1024mb Kingston dual 265x2 (kind of in-between upgrading now)
BFG 6800 Ultra OC : D
ray Stephens May 06, 2004, 01:20am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Can upgrading my power supply fry my components?
Yeah, if you got a new motherboard that can support your current CPU and RAM that would work too.

King Gregory May 06, 2004, 01:36am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Can upgrading my power supply fry my components?
What mother boards support a 580 watt wraith power supply? I was looking at an ABIT IC7-MAX3 any suggestions for a good Board that's under $200? sorry I'm new at this buildin thing.

Northwood P4 3.2GHz Hyper Threading @3.35GHz
Intel D875PBZLK FMB mobo
2 x 60 GB RAID 0 Data Burst (120 GB)
1024mb Kingston dual 265x2 (kind of in-between upgrading now)
BFG 6800 Ultra OC : D
ray Stephens May 06, 2004, 02:10am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Can upgrading my power supply fry my components?
Sorry, I'm not familiar with Pentium 4 motherboards. But any motherboard that supports that CPU should support a 580W PS.

Shadow_Ops_Airman1 May 06, 2004, 02:25am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Can upgrading my power supply fry my components?
how about running a P3 off a 460 watt Power Supply?

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Thermalright SI-97 1 Antec Tricool 12CM Fan
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ROY G May 06, 2004, 02:36am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Can upgrading my power supply fry my components?
Go with the new PSU,and be happy.

King Gregory May 06, 2004, 10:42pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Can upgrading my power supply fry my components?
My mother board for my Dell doesn't support that kind of supply and it came with the P4! What a rip off. Oh well at least I have some good components to work with. They didn't come with drivers for installing on a new mother board though, and I know nothing about fiddling with bios. Will it detect my pars on its own?

Northwood P4 3.2GHz Hyper Threading @3.35GHz
Intel D875PBZLK FMB mobo
2 x 60 GB RAID 0 Data Burst (120 GB)
1024mb Kingston dual 265x2 (kind of in-between upgrading now)
BFG 6800 Ultra OC : D
Shadow_Ops_Airman1 May 07, 2004, 01:28am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Can upgrading my power supply fry my components?
thats what makes those computers suck.

AMD Athlon XP-M 2500+ (133x14= 1867MHz) (209x11= 2299MHz)
DFI LP NF2 Ultra-B (Hellfire 3EG Rev2)
Antec SX800, Neo HE 500, 4 Antec 8CM Fans
Thermalright SI-97 1 Antec Tricool 12CM Fan
CL SB XFi Xtreme Music
2x Barracuda HDs (250/400)
2x Samsung Write
Digitalfixx May 07, 2004, 02:10am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Can upgrading my power supply fry my components?
Aren't the basic principles of supplied power the same for any mobo? Think about it, you have 3v+, 3v-, 5v+, 5v-, 12v+, 12v-, ground and nuetral. All the connectors from psu to mobo are same for ATX psu to ATX board, AT psu to AT board. It seems to me that it doesn't matter what proprietary system you have, as long as those connectors are the same it will work. Mini ATX and Micro ATX use less power and other ATX use more power but that's not the issue of frying the board, the psu will not supply more power than what the devices attached to it require. The only thing I have seen with a proprietary board, ONCE only have I come across an IBM ATX mobo that had an extra power connector on it but reality is that those wires going into the connector were 5v+, 5v-, 3v+, 3v- , these wires could easily be stripped from a drive connector and placed into the square female Ibm connector if I had to get a new non ibm psu. Maybe there are some proprietary mobos out there that can't be dealt with but as far as I've seen they can all be made usable with another case or psu if you switch a few thing around. I'm sure you guys will let me know if I'm missing something.

Michael A. May 07, 2004, 11:12am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Can upgrading my power supply fry my components?
Trash the Dell and get a new PC. If you stick a nice video card in a Dell a lot of its power will go to waste as the components it depends on will suck. Dells are for bussiness and people who don't need power, *not* gamers or video editors.

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Dorothy Bradbury May 08, 2004, 08:02pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Can upgrading my power supply fry my components?
o Dell use a proprietary (ie, not ATX standard) pin out on their PSUs
o However, you can perform an upgrade

1) there are aftermarket adapters to adapt PSUs to fit Dells
---- but you have to get physical fitment right, not all will
2) there are larger PSUs perhaps from Dell
---- same case, bigger spec, bigger PSU as a result
---- that is more difficult to find out

Note that Dell support is on the spec you bought re support costs.

You may want to cost out the various solutions open to you.

Your case most likely is tailored around a Dell motherboard, which
is most likely not a standard bolt-pattern or physical layout either.
So if you can't do 1) or 2) above you are into a new case/mb/psu,
and which might (depending on the Dell) be a noisier solution.

Dell are often a quiet solution out of the box - altho some models,
eg, JMC/Jamecon or Nidec fitted 8100, can be somewhat noisy.
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Patrick Anderson May 12, 2004, 11:40pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Can upgrading my power supply fry my components?
I have done a good deal of research on upgrading Dell PSU's and any stuff you do with it will void warrenty. However, if you MUST upgrade, keep the old case and mobo and then if you have any problems and Dell needs to send a technician out, you won't get screwed. Also, I think 580Watts is overkill, there are very few cases if any that I know that come fitted with them, a 400Watt PSU that is stable will do fine even with 6800 Ultra overclocked. Several sites have reviews of running a 350 with the 6800 Ultra just fine.

King Gregory May 13, 2004, 01:32am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Can upgrading my power supply fry my components?
Thanks man, I recently came to that conclusion after I read some reviews myself. Turns out my cpu is not proprietary and will work in any ATX mobo that supports a P4 with hyper treading. But can you recamend a good motherboard that's between $100 and $200 I have my eyes on a abit IC7-MAX3. Also since I don't need a 1billion watt power supply, can any1 recamend a good case to go with it about $100 with 400w or 450w PS. I'm somewhat partial to antec.

Northwood P4 3.2GHz Hyper Threading @3.35GHz
Intel D875PBZLK FMB mobo
2 x 60 GB RAID 0 Data Burst (120 GB)
1024mb Kingston dual 265x2 (kind of in-between upgrading now)
BFG 6800 Ultra OC : D
King Gregory May 13, 2004, 01:41am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Can upgrading my power supply fry my components?
1 more thing What kind of power supply does a gardian case come with? I know it's 420w, but who makes it and is it reliable? I cant find this info anywhere I looked.

Northwood P4 3.2GHz Hyper Threading @3.35GHz
Intel D875PBZLK FMB mobo
2 x 60 GB RAID 0 Data Burst (120 GB)
1024mb Kingston dual 265x2 (kind of in-between upgrading now)
BFG 6800 Ultra OC : D
Digitalfixx May 13, 2004, 02:10am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Can upgrading my power supply fry my components?
Gigabyte, MSI, and Abit are all fairly even, Personally the Gigabyte boards have been stellar, MSI's is great and Abit is top notch so look for the one that suits your needs the most, maybe you don't need onboard sound or gigabit Lan or serial raid, so you can get a less costly board by dropping some of those features. I really like codegen cases, they are heavier aluminum/steel than most and they have quick releases on their PCI cards, power units are included (codgen brand) and they are pretty decent psu's, quiet too. I liked three of their cases so I got them and they are quality no doubt, I was just going to use the psu's for customers computers but they were actually nice heavy quiet units that put out good amps so I kept them. I have looked at a lot of cases but the thermaltakes are just too much money, I like them alot but I found some real nice codgen boxes on eBay with shipping was $60 each (with 400w power). These don't tweak and rattle, there solid but if you are interested in them look closely because some were selling copies that weren't really codegen. Miacom.com is the dealer down in Florida but they do business on eBay too so you may get better pricing there.


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