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andrew kairis May 30, 2004, 03:55pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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this is a new issue,

socket 462 lasted longer then ANY intel equivilent, it has been here since socket 370 and is still up and running while 370 is now 2 generations dead..... true we don't really care what happened yesterday in this fast paced industry but it wasn't always like this....


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Carter Sudeith May 30, 2004, 06:37pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Re: AMD roapmap, socket to me baby?
AMD picked a winner when it chose the socket A. The shortest-lifespan interfaces were S5 and Slot1.
Intel literally scrapped S423 right away, socket T is very limited, and 472 is getting old. Clearly AMD is going to dominate the desktop/server market. Intel will take over PDAs.

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>> Re: Re: AMD roapmap, socket to me baby?
this article was dumb,

AMD has always told the consumers and distributors of what to expect.
(it seems like this author has never heard of http://www.amd.com)

i wasted my time reading this crap.

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albert spence May 30, 2004, 11:16pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Re: AMD roapmap, socket to me baby?
It's obvious the author of the article, has his own monster INTEL personal setup. We know AMD has come along way in technology and built themselves up to this point. Hek!! if it wasn't for them I couldn't afford those INTEL supersonic prices....lol.. As a serious PC GAMER it has been AMD that has kept me content with their products. We know that what comes up, must come down. INTEL has met their match and people don't like it. So what, if they keep us in the dark a little. Their product is worth the surprise of waiting.
just a thought, that is all
apollo.

Will Olson II May 30, 2004, 11:27pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Re: AMD roapmap, socket to me baby?
I still dont want either company to go under if Intel was gone then AMDs prices would go up and Tech advances would slow down for consumers so lets hope both companies can stick around.

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Corvus Raven May 31, 2004, 12:52am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Re: AMD roapmap, socket to me baby?
I don't belive either company is all clear about what they have. It is part of the game they play with each other. But if you want to find out what is available and for how long.. you will have to wait.

Just because one company seems to be sticking with a few options while another has several.. doesn't mean either one socket will make it. From past personal experience, it is the nature of the market. Technology changes. It's that simple.

Currently Intel has a few known methods they wish to use for the lenght of time they can.. perferbaly a long one.. It's just cheaper to do so, then to scrap a month or year of R&D on something that didn't work out. AMD, meanwhile, is trying a few more at once. I think that isn't super, but you never know until you try it out. AMD is doing just that.

You could say that Intel is currntly being more conservative. Hey.. who's to say that Intel has 20 more in line while AMD has only 2 that aren't mentioned - yet? You won't have company sharing intelectual property as freely as they may have done once before. I see no reason for them to do so. So one wishes to wait to the last minute to release information.. Perhaps they spent that time making sure it worked instead of saying this is what I have .. only to never release, or shortly after, have to replace it?

In this case it is just talk about what happens in the field. Oxy-Acytalene.. or Oygen-Propane? They each have their respected uses. One is more capable then the other at some tasks. Just depends on what job you will be doing most to buy the one for your greater needs.

That last paragraph sounds useless.. Humm.. yeah.

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Shadow_Ops_Airman1 May 31, 2004, 01:03am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Re: AMD roapmap, socket to me baby?
ya suppose what happens if Intel goes down, then amd wouldnt have to make new CPUs.

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Shadow_Ops_Airman1 May 31, 2004, 01:04am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Re: AMD roapmap, socket to me baby?
and who would compete with them then, Via, Ya Right

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Carter Sudeith May 31, 2004, 01:11am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Edited: May 31, 2004, 01:11am EDT

 
>> Re: Re: AMD roapmap, socket to me baby?
:)
I would shout out "F*CK THE WORLD!" as the great Violent J once said.

Shadow_Ops_Airman1 May 31, 2004, 01:17am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Re: AMD roapmap, socket to me baby?
ROFLMFAO

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Corvus Raven May 31, 2004, 01:18am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Re: AMD roapmap, socket to me baby?
True. Another M$ of any type is not thought of with a grain of salt.
Besides, my salt is high enough as it is just with the software.

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Harri Moilanen May 31, 2004, 10:08am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Re: AMD roapmap, socket to me baby?
I can't believe someone is so stupid. "If you bought a Socket-478 system a year or two ago, you knew you had an available upgrade path and no surprises for at least a few years."

First you had Socket 478-board that do not support 133 FSB. Then if you want to use 133 FSB-processor, buy new board. Then if you want to use 200 FSB processor buy new board. Then if you want to use Prescott, buy a new board.

Socket is same BUT that doesn't mean that you can upgrade processor.

For more bullshit, see http://www.jathardware.com/

Corvus Raven May 31, 2004, 02:02pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Re: AMD roapmap, socket to me baby?
Isn't life fun? :)

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Carter Sudeith May 31, 2004, 02:14pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Re: AMD roapmap, socket to me baby?
F*CK THE WORLD

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>> Re: Re: AMD roapmap, socket to me baby?
..:)

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Shadow_Ops_Airman1 May 31, 2004, 04:24pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Re: AMD roapmap, socket to me baby?
well u most certainly cant use a AMD Athlon XP in a standard Athlon Motherboard, but with the P4 u can use the 800 FSB HT in a 533 Motherboard and u can use a 400 in a 533 motherboard, certain models out there support all FSB models.

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Carter Sudeith May 31, 2004, 04:29pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Re: AMD roapmap, socket to me baby?
Oh well aint that grand airman? Now all the intel newbies think they dont have to worry about what mobo they buy for their outdated hardware. AMD is for hardware professionals. We know what we're buying.

Carter Sudeith May 31, 2004, 04:29pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Re: AMD roapmap, socket to me baby?
:)

Shadow_Ops_Airman1 May 31, 2004, 04:54pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Re: AMD roapmap, socket to me baby?
all im saying is that the 533 Motherboard is the Universal Select for the Processors out there considering most HT compatable motherboards dont support the 400 FSB P4s.

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Johann Winterbach May 31, 2004, 05:15pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Edited: May 31, 2004, 05:17pm EDT

 
>> AMD roapmap, socket to me baby?
This article divides fact and perception and is actually very simple, Intel and AMD form a duopoly. Just like Nvidia and Radeon release their product information a week or so prior to a new product launch, so do these CPU manufacturers. This field is very broad and the author of the article does not necessarily have all the answers for your complicated questions nor can he/she answer it in a short 300 word article.

I prefer AMD, foremost because of their price and secondly because of their honest communication about their processing speed. The platform (for me) or socket is of lesser concern and if you need to buy a new main board so what, most of you guys/girls make money because of technological change - right!

Carter Sudeith May 31, 2004, 05:32pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Re: AMD roapmap, socket to me baby?
I make money because then I can afford things and stuff.... Like sandwiches.


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