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Brian Popp Jun 08, 2004, 11:00am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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I think users would find product launches more palatable if news sites would indicate whether they are likely paper launches or not. The GeForce 6800 is certainly a paper launch, but I sit here using a X800 Pro I've had for 29 days. People are tired of paper launches. Even the X800 XT PE was a paper launch, only just now available. Please, for goodness sakes, let us know if announced products are currently in distribution or retail channels. If they aren't, they are *by default* a paper launch.


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Corvus Raven Jun 08, 2004, 02:05pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Re: Product launches, donít you just hate them?
Until such a product is within my grasp, it is paper or on the shelf with a too large price tag.

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Bruce Foster Jun 08, 2004, 05:38pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Re: Product launches, donít you just hate them?
And in the world of Analysts and Programmers they are known as VaporWare...

Corvus Raven Jun 09, 2004, 02:27am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Edited: Jun 09, 2004, 02:29am EDT

 
>> Re: Re: Product launches, donít you just hate them?
..Hardware.. You can physically touch it.
..Software.. That is the data.. you can't touch that..
..Hey stop poking the exposed disks..
..Shut up about the floppies. Yes, they are hardware.. the magnetic bits of information..that is the software.. the programs that you store on the floopy.. that is the software.. Shut up about the floppies. Yes...(Flashback from CRS ;) )

..Vaporware.. What you can't touch or otherwise 'see'. You may hear about them during each week prior to a bussiness' quarter. Generally Summer Spring and Winter. Yes quarters have 4.. the forth is prior to the company's potential Fall. :)


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Michael A. Jun 11, 2004, 02:57am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Re: Product launches, donít you just hate them?
Good article Sander. Stated very well.

Michael A.
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Shadow_Ops_Airman1 Jun 11, 2004, 03:03am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Re: Product launches, donít you just hate them?
i hate launches also.

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Corvus Raven Jun 11, 2004, 12:43pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Re: Product launches, donít you just hate them?
Remove the 'a' and it isn't so bad.

Launches => Lunches.. :) speaking of which..(Sandwich that is.. :) )

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ad asdf Jun 11, 2004, 03:40pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Re: Product launches, donít you just hate them?
nice article,
but i would like to add that: these "Paper Launches" are suppose to be the final product, and if they are not companies suffer from backlash, since paper launches attract only a minute percentile of people towards their product. Therefore (most of) these launches are tend to be final products with a littile tweaks in the drivers or bios or even the in the hardware (resulting in a faster product than seen in the launch).

Shadow_Ops_Airman1 Jun 11, 2004, 04:20pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Re: Product launches, donít you just hate them?
its funny that when a beta game comes out, IE Unreal Tournament 2004, the beta runs better than the final version and i thought the final version was supposed to be better and bug free.

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ad asdf Jun 12, 2004, 10:23pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Re: Product launches, donít you just hate them?
I strongly disagree with the last reply (about ut2k4 demo and retail product).
The demo did not had "maximum" settings but rather medium or low (and maybe 1 or 2 high), therefore casuing the game to run faster. Whereas in the retail version, u may adjust settings to Highest (and if you do you hear the annoucer say "Holy S*it". I have played both the demo and own the retail version and have seen no performance decrease when i play with the settings that are default in the demo.

Now about the comment on bugs: We the gamers (some of us *ahem*) forget a game in not just delevered to us by magic or GOD, but rather by the hardworking of the developers; (ie: programmers, designers, etc).
Being a programmer myself i know that regardless of how good i am i will always make mistakes (now mistakes or not code efficiently). Most of the bugs are solved before the game is released by the beta testers, alpha testers, and pre-alpha testers(code only). But ofcourse as we know there are limited number of testers accepted varying from hundreds to thousands (but yet less than 1000). Therefore some of the bugs are not found by the testers (which are later found by the gamers). Whereas some minor bugs that are not treated before the release since the game needs to be shipped.

Regards,

DayKnight


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