I recently bought an Asus V8420 Ti4200 card, and have used on the following without any problems:

Asus A7M266/Athlon 1333/512MB PC2100 RAM and Gigabyte GA8-IRXP/P4 2.0/512MB PC2100. Both running W98SE & DX8.0 (now on 8.1)

In the case of the Thlon, I installed all the VIA updates (4-in-1 and AGP miniport driver). At no time has the system crashed or thrown up errors using any of the latest games or the 3DMark series.

From reading all these posts, it seems the problem isn't confined to one processor, motherboard, graphics cars, OS or DirectX version, but a combination of factors which no single manufacturer is likely to be able to fix alone. I'm still amazed that you can built a PC out of components from completely different manufacturers yet still get it to work. Imagine trying to build a car that way....

In the past when I have run into problems like this, I tend to pull everything out of the box, wipe the hard disc clean and start from scratch with just the video card in place. This way, I can gradually install bits until the problem occurs. It's a bit of a long-winded way, but it seems to work.

Good luck to all.

Andy

Tried the build fron scratch idea a few times before comming here not been making a difference.

Cars you will find are made from parts from different manufacturers it's just normal for manufacturers to shove their own badge on the bits.

Niall

Yep, its more o' that same ole stuff. Bought GTA3 for £35 - PC meets all requirements but found out it is not compatible with voodoo 3 / 2000. Something to do with not being dx 8.1 compatible. So ask my colleagues (IT guys) "what card should I get ATI Radeon 9000 or Nvidia". They said "nvidia - its the only way to go"

Card arrives... race home and delete old card and install new drivers, game and get ready to reboot and ... now I am here.

The thing is its an Abit kt7a board and abit siluro mx440 card. I bought them because they were the same manufacturer and imagined that i shouldn't have compatibilty problems... but someones having me on!

On Default CMOS settings the motherboard beeps after 20mins (only in w2k??). The CPU temp is 50 C and sys is 29. I only bought it 18 months ago. I have been throught the driver version and the test driver mentioned above lasts longest on w98 SE with games.

Life is too short for this. Must have spent close to 30 hours trouble shooting this. Not to mention the untold wear and tear of multiple installs and cold resets due to a frozen or looping computer. Its just wrong. Was absolutely happy with previous config.

There is seems lack of co-ordination between Microsoft/Game/Hardware manufacturers. Seems like the latest stuff with dx8.1, nvidia and m/board Manufacturers is a bit hairy.

Me, I'm sitting tight for a patch - or buying PS 2 or something.

Al....... see i just bought a inno3d tornado geforce4 mx440 and so bad want to install it, but after coming here I dont want to. but I do want to......something inside me says maybe it will work ok. lol

BTW : would I be better off using the inno3d drivers or nvidia drivers ?

Well, like sooo many of you I spent days and days pulling my hair out and here's what I found that FIXED MY PROBLEM FOREVER:

My Hardware:
Tyan Trinity KT-A (VIA chipset)
AMD Athlon 1.4 GHz
MSI GeForce 4 T1 4200
Creative Labs Sound Card
Windows XP Pro

Symptoms:
On playing heavy 3D games my machine would either crash to the desktop or reboot altogether.

Tried:
I tried a new power supply (500W), all the Nvidia driver versions, VIA 4-in-1 drivers, fixes from AMD, turning down all kinds of BIOS and software settings, etc, etc... the same crap you all have done. None worked.

WHAT FIXED MY PROBLEM:
Someone above linked to the VIA Latency patch. Do a search and you'll find it. Since installing my machine is 100% rock solid. I can play DAOC/SI, Unreal 2003, Eve (beta), etc etc... games that used to crash within seconds now run PERFECTLY.

Trust me, give it a try, you'll be soooo glad you did,

Here is my problem I am running a Dual Boot Machine
Windows 98 SE
Windows XP Pro Service Pack 1

Ok I do not like gaming on XP very slow and to many problems but I do like gaming in 98 so that is why I kept 98 now here is my PC configurations.

300 Watt AMD Approved Power Supply
Soyo SY-K7VTA Pro VIA Chip Set
AMD XP 2100+
1.5 GB of PC133 SDRAM
2 120 GB Western Digital Hard Drives 7200 ATA 100 8MB Cache Each
inno3D Tornado geForce4 MX(440)-SE 64MB SDR TV/Out
Sony 16X DVD Drive
Norcent CD/CD-R/CD-RW 48X24X48
Onboard VIA AC97 Audio
KNE110TX PCI NIC
ViewSonic E641

Now here is my problem when I try running games that require DirectX in Windows 98 SE the screen goes black and the system is still running but there is know display in order to get back with out a hard boot I <Ctrl>+<Esc> then the old 3 fingure to Microsoft and end the task. Now I have been trouble shooting this for about 6 days now and I even spoke with support and they gave me all kinds of bulls**t and none of it was true. Now the wierd thing about this is that when I running the same games in XP everything works fine without adding any special patches to the XP system. So from that I can say the Video Card, Motherboard, RAM and Power Supply are fine it seems to be with Windows 98 SE or DirectX or the video card drivers. But here is what is killing me the box says on it System Req.

Windows 98 SE
Windows ME
Windows 2000
Windows XP
DirectX 6.1 or Higher

Ok so here is what I have down so far.
1.) Reinstalled at least 10 times
Problem is still there
2.) Started with DirectX 6.1a then 7.0 then 8.0 then 8.1 then 8.1b
Problem is still there
3.) Applied VIA AGP Drivers 4.17-4.45
Problem is still there
4.) Underclocked the AGP Card
Problem is still there
5.) Turned down the performance
Problem is still there
6.) Loaded no other device drivers like Audio, NIC, Game Pad
Problem is still there
Ok after doing all of this I did not mind since it only took 30min a load knowing I would end up resolving this problem but now after doing this 10 times and still back to square 1 I am p**sed off and as far as tech support with InnoVISION Multimedia Limited they suck they made this damn card and can not even help me with the problem so I look to my tech friends here for help. Does anyone know or had this problem and found the resolution.

Thank You

I hope you guys get everything sorted OK, I firmly believe that my old problems (simular to the threads here) we're memory related, or a wornout Motherboard.

Since building my new system, from scratch in December.. I've had absolutely no problems. And can now play all the latest games with out a hitch.

Again here are my system specs....... with (old) for parts I used from my existing system and (new) for completly new parts.

Normal watt ATX case - (OLD)
WinXP Pro (All updates) - (OLD)
KT4 Ultra Motherboard (FSB 333) - (NEW)
AMD Athlon XP2000 - (NEW)
256 DDR (333Mhz) Ram - (NEW)
GeForce 4 TI 420 (Latest detonator drivers)- (OLD)
40G Hardrive - (OLD)
Crative DXr2 DVD Rom - (OLD)

I hope you guys get everything sorted OK, I firmly believe that my old problems (simular to the threads here) we're memory related, or a wornout Motherboard.

Since building my new system, from scratch in December.. I've had absolutely no problems. And can now play all the latest games with out a hitch.

Again here are my system specs....... with (old) for parts I used from my existing system and (new) for completly new parts.

Normal watt ATX case - (OLD)
WinXP Pro (All updates) - (OLD)
KT4 Ultra Motherboard (FSB 333) - (NEW)
AMD Athlon XP2000 - (NEW)
256 DDR (333Mhz) Ram - (NEW)
GeForce 4 TI 420 (Latest detonator drivers)- (OLD)
40G Hardrive - (OLD)
Crative DXr2 DVD Rom - (OLD)

Cheers
Grahame
http://www.paradisedecay.com

Well,

Here's my hard. spec. :
Mobo MSI 6309
2 * 128 MB SDRAM
1 * 512 MB SDRAM
MSI GeForce 4 Ti 4200 128MB
AHA SCSI Ultra / Ultra wide 2940
DVD Pioneer 16/32 SCSI
CD Teac 32 SCSI
CDW Yamaha 4/4/16 SCSI
Maxi Sound Fortissimo
Mitsubishi Diamondtron Pro 900U
HDD Western Digital 40 Go 7200Rpm DMA 133

When I acquire my MSI GeForce 4 I was not able to install Windows 98 SE correctly (BSOD, screen freezing, etc)

A friend told me that I should upgrade my power supply up to 400 Watts (A TIGGI one). That solve my problems. I was able to install Windows and all the drivers for my hardware.

But I decided to install and play games... And that was catastrophic...
I could not play whith games using DirectX. Sometimes games didn't want to start (return to the desktop), sometimes I was able to play for 15 minutes and my sound started to scritch and scratch (like an old vinyl on a turn table) and I had to quit the game... (Hitman II and Rune) and sometimes when the game was starting my PC reboot (Is there's someone in here ??!??).

I found this forum yesterday and i tried some of the solutions describe here and I think I walkaround this problem...

I'm going to make other tests to be sure then I'll give you How I made it...

Write you soon!

"No need to run when your shoe laces are undown!"

Ralph, I understand your concerns totally. I really have no idea what to get any more - who to trust - what is reliable. Even after reading mags and reviews etc, these problems are not forseen.

I'm gonna try this via latency patch (if i can find it) Shawn suggests and will report back. Its going to be on top of the test drivers above.

Al: well I dont have a via chipset, intel 845.

but this problem is widespread so im scared to put this video card in, lol.

what a dilema ssince upgrading a video card can be so fun but obviously not in this case, again very sad times when it comes to computers.

im gonna try it anyway and see how I make out, i did all my upgrades via bios and winxp....etc so hopefully this will help.

again im running a compaq machine and cant see me having a problem, but I will see.

good luck Al and to all.

Ok all here I have the resolution and it works fine no lock ups and no black screening here is the fix very easy but who would have thought of the Adapter Refresh Rate I was reading this document about the geForce256 different card but same problems at (“http://www.technologyvault.co.uk/geforce/all_print2.php?prog=g...mp;lang=en)

Resolution:
Not update the VIA AGP Drivers
But who make your card update the card drivers to the latest NVIDIA Detonators (This is my theory)
And change the refresh rate to Adapter Default. For some reason Nvidia has problems with refresh rate kind of like the Trident 9680 had the same problem in Windows 95.

I believe that the Refresh Rate is the problem with all the Nvidia cards.

I am working great after 40 – 50 hours of trouble shooting and 10 reinstalls I am Gaming my ass off in Windows 98 SE now as far as Windows XP, Windows 2000 And Windows ME I would look in the same area as the Windows 98 SE Resolution.

Good Luck all and tell me if this works.

Very Happy,
Kevin

Oh before I forget the resolution that I gave you guys works with DirectX 6.1 - 8.1 and as far as DirectX 9.0 I read a article on the net and it stated that 9.0 is a beta in only ATI RADEON 9700 Pro is supported by the beta and furthermore there are no games as of now that can take advantage of DirectX 9.0.

Hm, well I can now get into windows on a new install carried out with my SiS 300 installed, problem now is i cna't get it out of trouble shooting mode. no matter what i do windows fails to initialise the grahpics in any mode ofther than 16 colour 640x480.

Shift the card over to the Duron 600 and it works great. Guess I am going to have to mess around with the drivers and see what happens. Bigest problem being that i have them on the hard drive in the Duron...great i need them in the Athlon and the install on the duron won't port.

This thread is for "Grahame Skeavington" what bad advice to give, why would you post that. Hey every one I just bought a new car and the wippers don't work well here is "Grahame Skeavington" well I went and bought new car and everything works fine LMFAO dumbest statement I have heard yet.

This thread is for "Grahame Skeavington" what bad advice to give, why would you post that. Hey every one I just bought a new car and the wippers don't work well here is "Grahame Skeavington" well I went and bought new car and everything works fine LMFAO dumbest statement I have heard yet.

System Spec:
Mobo: ECS K7SA5 (SIS 735)
RAM: 256 MB PC133
CPU: ATHLON XP 2100+
VC: Creative Geforce4 Mx440

Everything works fine; I run 6 programs at once , but when i start a game using direct 3d, system froze after 20 - 30 mins and i have to reset.
Changing CPU Bios Settings, something happens; I set 100 mhz for cpu and 133 mhz for ram, and everything works fine.

I tested the same video card on a system based on:
AMD Duron 1300
Gigabyte 7DXR (Northbridge amd761, southbridge Via 686)
DDR ram 256 mb pc2100

and everything is perfect!

P.S. Forgive my poor english

Oh dear, somebody didn't wake up to the smell of coffee this morning......

See you try to be helpful and you get smucks trying to pull you down.

Hey if you read my post correctly wise guy I did change the wipers, I also got the engineer to change the wiper mechanism and everything works now.

So maybe I shouldn't suggest that it could be specific parts of the computer thats causing problems?

Also if you read my posts from the very top, you'll see I went through a simular process to everyone else, and tried different things first, my solution, short of pulling my hair out and closing down my business was to change the heart of my PC.

I think an appology is in order, or maybe you forgot to read this part!!!

No appology here you are not beening helpful at all tell people they need new and different hardware to make there video card work. That is just stupid talk and coming from someone who knows nothing about computers that pays for everything to be fixed and takes the word of so rip off repair shop therefore no appology here my friend just some advice help is when you fix the problem not not suggest people go to a repair shop so beat it. He is a quote "Stupid is what Stupid people do" (Forest Gump) = You one if you would have done the research you would have found that you know what screw it just don't say stupid things that is all....