Well, well, well...

Yesterday I told you that I walkaround the problem. I was right.
I've made several tests and I'm 100% sure that the cause is bad power conception. I explain...

Last night I've tried this :
On my mobo I have 3 SDRAM DIMM. When I use 1 ram module all works fine. When I use 2 ram modules all works fine. Then if i add a 3th module the video card is not running correctly (my SCSI card and my Sound card too blame it on the video card).

I've done this test with and without the PCI pacth latency ver. 0.19. Same results.

I've done this test with and with Via 4_in_1 ver 4.43 and 4.45 (hyperion). Same results.

My new power supply can deliver 28A for 3.3Volts.

So in conclusion my Geforce 4 video card is very "gourmande"... ;-)

Some of you that are using 3 modules of SDRAM should try with just 2 modules or 1 modules.

Others should try with no USB mouse or keyboard (USB is pumping 3.3V).

Beware that PCIs slots use 3.3Volts too. So try to unplugged your Ethernet PCI card or your modem PCI card(if you have one).

But above all verify your power supply. If she's not able to deliver at least 28 A it's not worth trying to make your video card working.

Try an over power supply.

Tonight (I'm in france so now it's 8h10 AM!) I'm going to use a digital multimeter and make some "mesures".

I'm waiting for the results of your tests.

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"No need to run when your shoes laces are undown"

Ok Smarty pants......... again you've obviously not read my previous posts, PLEASE DO SO BEFORE REPLYING, you'll see that the only solution to fix the problem was new parts, obviously something was at fault with the hardware. I spent 2 weeks trying to solve simular problems as those above, and it seems you belive the solution to faulty parts is to find the right drivers, now who's playing Mr Gump.

As for computers I've built plenty from scratch and even wrote computer software and games, I know how they work so again you presumptions are totally wrong.

You must really be getting off on this and you obviously don't need peoples help, you seem to know all the solutions?

As a result of your actions I bid these forums goodbye. I have far better things to do....

As for the rest of you I hope you all find solutions to your problems.

Cheers
Grahame

Hi,

Just reporting back regarding the via latency patch driver suggested above. It loads ok and on boot the screen displays the driver is present.

Loaded GTA and ran it fine for about 20-30 mins. Then it froze.
It almost suggests an over heating problem. surely it cant suddenly consistently go after that time. Seems weird. I have the test driver loaded as well. This is the best I will get I think. Will upgrade to 400w p/s and see if that works.

Well back to it, Al

Hey Al if you upgrade your p/s don't get one with no name. Before I get my TIGGI (or Super Flower) I 've tried one that don't make it and it was a No Name...

And take one with a maximum of Amp at 3.3 V.

Read you soon

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"No need to run when your shoes laces are undown"

FOR ECS K7SA5 OWNERS!

LOOK AT THIS:
http://pub65.ezboard.com/fk7s5amotherboardforumfrm5.showMessag...=261.topic

I tried it and it works:
System spec:
CPU AMD Athlon xp 2100+
Mobo Ecs K7S5A PCB Ver. 3.1
RAm 256mb pc 133
VC: Creative Geforce4 mx440

For this kind of mobo, the problem is the chipset heatsink. This is why it works at 100mhz bus speed and doesn't work at 133.

I tried everything even a new power supply and video card this was the thing that worked I got it off another board from a max pain my system is an abit kg7 and 1700+ althon with a 4400 geforce card


Re: Screen freezes with XP, AMD, KG7
AMD Athlon XP 1500+, Abit KG7 MoBo, 512MB PC2100, Nvidia GeForce4 Ti4200, WinXP Pro.

Only way I got it to stop hanging (mostly in 3D games), was to increase the voltage in the Bios from 1.75 (default) to 1.80- no more freeze ups.
Make sure you have adequate cooling!

I had done everything else on this page, but this was the only thing to finally work. All other Bios settings are at optimized defaults.

Only drawback (not sure it's related) is now I have some video corruption in UT g.o.t.y. and Star Wars Starfighter (blotchy screen). Everything else runs great- UT 2003 runs like a dream.

I tried everything even a new power supply and video card this was the thing that worked I got it off another board from a max pain my system is an abit kg7 and 1700+ althon with a 4400 geforce card


Re: Screen freezes with XP, AMD, KG7
AMD Athlon XP 1500+, Abit KG7 MoBo, 512MB PC2100, Nvidia GeForce4 Ti4200, WinXP Pro.

Only way I got it to stop hanging (mostly in 3D games), was to increase the voltage in the Bios from 1.75 (default) to 1.80- no more freeze ups.
Make sure you have adequate cooling!

I had done everything else on this page, but this was the only thing to finally work. All other Bios settings are at optimized defaults.

Only drawback (not sure it's related) is now I have some video corruption in UT g.o.t.y. and Star Wars Starfighter (blotchy screen). Everything else runs great- UT 2003 runs like a dream.

I've ran 2 different systems with GF4's and have had no problems.

System 1:
MSI moboard
Dual AMD 2000+ MP
1024 PC2100
Ti-4600
XP Pro
DirectX 8.1

System 2:
Abit KG7A-Raid
AMD XP 2000+
512 PC2700
Ti-4400
XP Pro
DirectX 8.1

Neither of the systems have had problems running 3DMarck2001SE or any games so far. UT2K3, Counterstrike, MOH, MayaIII, Wolfenstein, and more.

Hi, I'm back. Spoke to soon about the APM/Power Management solving my problems. It didn't. After posting here, later the screen went into "no signal" mode (black with the blinking yellow light), and the pc locked up. Always consistently after about 30 minutes of gameplay. (NWN using DirectX8.1).
I tried upping the voltage as recommended by ABIT from 3.30 in increments of .10 (not to exceed 3.65). that didn't work. Somebody else claimed that the problem went away for them after switching from XP to 98SE. I re-installed the old OS. Same problems. re-installed the machine back to XP making sure to hit F5 during the early stages of the install process - so I could pick "standard pc", so I would install without APCI (ACPI?). This way everything had it's own IRQ.

I tried the user developed latency patch - same problems.
I tried the VIA latency patch - same problems.

I FINALLY tried something which I realized I had not tried in the past. I went into bios and set my AGP 4X to disabled. And disabled fast writes.
I then gamed happily that night for 3 hours. The next day for a total of 5 hours (multiple testing reboots to see if the problem would re-occur). And last but not least today for 9 hours (multiple testing reboots).

Unless something freaky happens - I'm going to say I'm fixed.
Knock on wood.

GOOD LUCK to you.
No overclocking - no underclocking.

New system specs.
ABIT KT7A (1.0) running the latest 'A9' bios.
AGP 4X - disabled
AGP Fast Writes - disabled.
APM - disabled
Everything else set to fail-safe defaults. Except the DMA stuff for the IDE devices. I got to have my I/O.
Athlon 1.4 "C" core.
1 stick PC133 Corsair 256mb
1 stick PC133 Kingston 256mb
1 3Com ethernet controller (IRQ 10).
1 SBLive! 5.1 Gamer
1 Asylum Geforce 4 TI 4600 (IRQ 11).

Windows XP Home Edition
- all critical updates
- latest 4in1 drivers (45).
- latest nvidia drivers (41.09).
- VIA Latency Patch (from http://www.viaarena.com) - not the user created one.
- DirectX 8.1
- Enermax power supply with 38amps on the 3.3 leg.

well i decided to take the plunge and install the gf4 mx440 on my compaq p4 presario and no problems....well almost but not due to the problems here.

if anyone could answer this qeustion as im not a vid card guru....

in quake III everything seems to look fine except the items/like armor, guns and stuff to pick up in the game. they arent rendered 3d they are just solid colored. I have tried every setting but nothing works to make them rendered. if anyone can shed some light let me know. I did install dx9 so maybe that has something to do with it ?

running latest inno3d tornado drivers...... please someone help this is very annoying and cheap looking. lol

well i decided to take the plunge and install the gf4 mx440 on my compaq p4 presario and no problems....well almost but not due to the problems here.

if anyone could answer this qeustion as im not a vid card guru....

in quake III everything seems to look fine except the items/like armor, guns and stuff to pick up in the game. they arent rendered 3d they are just solid colored. I have tried every setting but nothing works to make them rendered. if anyone can shed some light let me know. I did install dx9 so maybe that has something to do with it ?

running latest inno3d tornado drivers...... please someone help this is very annoying and cheap looking. lol

Hey.

Until today i had the same problem with my point of view geforce4 ti4200.
My Mother Board is a MSI 6380e, with a AMD xp 2400+.

Then i found out, if i adjust the FSB in the BIOS to 130 instead of 133, the cpu has a clock frequency at 1.96 Ghz, instead og 2.0 Ghz. but the problems has disapeared.

I dont hope this is the only solution. However it is better than nothing.

(I'm sorry for my english, hope you understand)

Hey.

Until today i had the same problem with my point of view geforce4 ti4200.
My Mother Board is a MSI 6380e, with a AMD xp 2400+.

Then i found out, if i adjust the FSB in the BIOS to 130 instead of 133, the cpu has a clock frequency at 1.96 Ghz, instead og 2.0 Ghz. but the problems has disapeared.

I dont hope this is the only solution. However it is better than nothing.

(I'm sorry for my english, hope you understand)

I have played 2+ hours RTCW at 1280x1024, and then NFS6 about one and a half, the problem seems to have desapeared, And this is what i did:

Unistalled via latency patch and agp driver
restart
installed via agp driver and via latency
installed the last detonator drivers
restart
deactivate the indexing for the HHD (i do this for performance purpose, dont know if this is a part of the solution)
deactivate all the power options (hybernate, shut down hdd's etc. "always on")
restart
in the Bios deactivated all the unused devices (com ports, lpt1, etc) again i did that for performance and don't know if that was a part of the solution
Install the monitor drivers (not the generic display, the manufacturer drivers)

And that's all.
If my system crashes again I advice you

Fix for some users could be:
nVidia Refresh Rate Fix MKII v2.10 E (Programmed with Visual Basic 6.0 Enterprise Edition)
http://www.sheep-design.de/com/index2.htm

Sorry Mig Selv,
That was allready found to be the problem and the way around it is not extra software but if you would read all post then you would have know that. For most user it Is Adapter Default not Optimal under the Adapter Tab in Display properties. There is know need to add more software that may conflict with application or devices or purchase new hardware for a cheap $42.00 - $100.00 Video Card.

For those with Inno3d GF4 Ti4200, I was experiencing the same problem crashing, restart, and sometimes it will return to the desktop all in yellowish color. I tried evrything in this thread the latency patch, the test driver, i even formatted my pc, still nothing. Then i got so mad that i was planning to sell my video card, as i opened my cpu i decided to put an electric fan(something like a small desktop fan) directly to my video card. Then i was able to play Jedi Outcast, even able to run 3DMARK 5 times without any crashing. I hope it was really the thermal problem because I don't have enough money to get a new card. I'm planning to buy a ttake case fan and mount it directly in front of my card. Hope this will help solve my problem. Keep you posted if I succeed.

by the way check this URL
http://www.sysopt.com/userreviews/vidcards/reviewhtml/Inno3D_T..._64Mb.html

for the Inno3d it seems that there is really a thermal problem.

Hi all. The prob with my G4 440 MMX 64mb is that it has worked fine since sep02. The prob startet when I saw that the text in word docs just floated and I couldnt play Ghost Recon any more. I dicovered that the Graphic card isnt used by the comp. I right clicked on the desktop, selected properties - settings - advanced. Normally I should see tabs for the G4 card there. Nothing. I installed the latest driver (as I check twice a month anyway). Nothing. I remove the card physically and reinstall. Nothing. Day two. It wont even start my display so now Im looked out. If I reinstall the G4 card in another comp with same type of card. Nothing. If I install another working Graphic card into broken comp. Nothing. Wtf is going on??
My computer: OS XP Pro, AMD Athlon 1800+, Motherboard Matsonic 8137C with VIA Chipset.
I have a 3 computer LAN thru a netgear router at home and if I try to access the "broken" comp thru the LAN it says comp unknown so the comp probably wont pass MSDOS.
This is my problem 4 now, anyone experiensing similar?
Plz let me know
Plz remember I cant see anything because the monitor wont start up
How upgrade now? lo

guys i had the same problems you are having with the gforce 4 440 mx and it didnt matter as to what drivers or bios or settings i was using .here is the fix that worked for me i simply went into display then clicked on my card and found the override refresh rates and changed them all to 60hertz this set up now lets me play anything i want without a loss in graphics quality or in system stability.give it a try and see if it works.


ecs mobo k7semv.3c-850 duron chipat 893
windows xp home
1 gig ram
gforce4 mx 440 with dtonator drivers from nividia

Nope, after I put fans still crashing, and can't even finish 3DMARK now!!!
If this Geforce 4 ti4200 have a soul, wish it will burn to hell !!!