In June 2003 I purchased a new AMD 2800 xp Barton, an Asus A7N8X Deluxe mobo, 512 dual channel ddr memory, a 120 Gig hardrive, and a Gforce Ti 4200 graffics card.

I thought this would be a good combo for graffics and games, Hah!

Just like many of you, I found this combo would stall, crash, and return to desktop whenever I tried to play a 3d game.
Windows online crash analyses said that the problem was a driver,
All drivers and bio were updated Windows was reinstalled and the problem would not go away.
This was all done at cost to me as I live on an Island and was not confident enough in my computor skills at that time to attempt these things.

Fortunately I found this forum. Based on a suggestion by someone here or at a related site I went into the bios and changed the apg aperture .
First I went from 128 where it was set to 256 but that only seemed to make it worse.
Then I went from 128 DOWN to 66.

Voila!

All the highend 3d graffics games like GTA vice city and Aqua now play rock steady.

I hope this can be of some assistance to those of you caught up in this hellish situation.

The companys supplying this hardware should not be allowed to dump their compatibility problems onto the hapless consumer. This is bulls**t.
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Look i bought my computer in parts in united states but after 4 months i went to italy and i thought, i wont have any problem because my case has 115v and 230v, but after 5 months i ve been having problems with my geforce 4, the video card seems to be in overcloking because is too hot,
and works fine only in windows and 2d games but in 3d games in 3 seconds of play the screen appears to be bloked or sometimes appears dots in the screen.

Please guys help me

thank you

I have a K7SEM mobo and a Geforce 4 Ti 4200 and Im having a problem with my monitor just shutting of at random times. I have my refresh rate at 75 hertz and it still does it, it did the same thing at 60 hertz, 75 hertz, and 85 hertz. I have all the latest drivers for the card and the new DirectX but still i have problems. Can someone help?

K7SEM Motherboard
AMD Duron XP 1200+
512MB SDRAM
40 GB Maxtor HDD
GeForce 4 Ti 4200 with 8x AGP 64 MB

forgot to add line: Windows XP Proffessional

I just played around with the AGP settings in the bios (disabled them and turn them down low) and i can play longer than 15 min (didn't test longer)

Can someone tell me what agp does??


Max

NVIDIA WILL PAY. This doesn't help anyone, sorry, but I have the exact same issue. The only reason I'm posting this message is to say RIGHT ON. We need to barrage NVIDIA about their incompetence in designing good software.

Here's my Athlon processor/GeForce4/Win XP combo horror story:

I just got my P.O.S. compaq rebuilt into a gaming machine with

Athlon 2400+ processor
512 mb's of DDR SDRAM
GeForce4 mx 440
80 gig drive @ 7200rpm

I got it home, plugged that machine up, loaded up Enter the Matrix...BAM. Crashed to desktop. So I tried it again. WAM. Gone. I tried it again, and the friggin PC restarted! I was p**sed off because I had just paid $1000 for a decent gaming machine and it did that!

For two weeks I've been searching for the cause of this. I've reformatted and clean installed, downloaded dozens of drivers...THANKS GUYS. I would still be doing that stuff if it weren't for this page.

P.S. there isn't any other possible cause for this is there? I've gotten various error messages ranging from system errors to com+ errors (those stopped once i reformatted tho) but my problems are the same. Games crash to a black screen or the desktop or the PC just restarts.

TTYL all...I've started my email campaign against NVIDIA. SPREAD THE WORD.

Error 0x009000930: there is no error.

Im switching to ATI

This has been two weeks of WinXP/DirectX/Athlon/GeForce4 hell. I'm gonna try and go into my BIOS right now and see if it works. I'm desperate and p**sed off and I'm sure as hell not calling Microsoft and paying them $35 for them to tell me they can't, no, refuse to do anything. I think Bill Gates is just trying to screw the gaming community over.

KEEP SENDING THOSE EMAILS TO NVIDIA!!! THEY MUST PAY!!!

If this doesn't work i'm goin ATI RADEON! I will never buy another NVIDIA P.O.S. AGAIN!!!

NOOOOOOO!!! I moved the agp aperture in the bios from 128 down to 66. NO FRICKIN LUCK. Mafia crashed on me in ten seconds flat. (by the way Mafia is a kick ass game, i finished it when i still had Win98 SE)

Before I spend more money on this new PC, does anyone have any last ditch solutions, save throwing that P.O.S. nvidia card out the window and popping in a half decent RADEON card?

Oh yeah and whatever you do don't buy ZoneAlarm, that will screw up your computer. ZA must've been designed by the same idiot who designed the geforce card...

Did any of you think of this

Not all games use only directX running graphics display

i realise that the geforce doesnt support directX
but it was made that way for a reason because if it did support directX then it wouldnt a conpadable card with any motherboard, the ATI Radeon 9200 supports DirectX mostly and also has major compadabilty problems with most motherboards,

Geforce protect there cards and the use there on created directX its called Nvidia AGP display or simply 3DFX

thats why it has so many problems with directX support so that it can be compadable with any motherboard

Hello, i have a problem with DirectX and Geforce4, too.

But in fact i am using WINDOWS 2000 (SP4); but the problem is similar.

All Direct3D-Games (like WARCRAFT III) are unplayable because of graphic errros or crashes.

Although often the background appears correctly; any dynamically
effekt (e.q. the blowing flag at the WARCRAFT III-startscreen)
is shown incorrectly. Also flickers the screen heavy.

But any game that can use Open-GL (like HALFLIFE) doesn't
have any problems !

I have even played UT2003 at highest resolution without any problems :
I used the LINUX version !

Okey sorry about the agp

It workt just for one game =\

just luck i think
But a friend of mine run a memory check and it gave a conflickt

So i got (expensive) memory

now 3DMark03 no longer freezes on me

need to test longer in games

Okey sorry about the agp

It workt just for one game =\

just luck i think
But a friend of mine run a memory check and it gave a conflickt

So i got (expensive) memory

now 3DMark03 no longer freezes on me

need to test longer in games

Luke,

Sorry, dude, but DirectX is not the issue. I'm a computer engineer and have been for 15 years and have fooled with the Nvidia chipset since the TNT days. (S3 used to be the standard before Nvidia came along) The issue in most all cases is hardware compatibility. In most cases, Nvidia slap doesn't like the VIA chipset. I have seen these crashes in OpenGL as well as DirectX. I've also seen the issue with older games that don't even use DirectX. Additionally, when you can take a video card out of one PC that isn't working and put it into another and play the exact same game without crashing, DirectX is not the issue.

Additionally, DirectX is the standard. Nvidia claims support for it and OpenGL on their box. If what you are saying is true, then why is Nvidia even in the playing field? It makes no sense to go proprietary and if that's what they are doing, they are cutting their own throats...and profits.

I also disagree with you regarding ATI Radeon being incompatible with many motherboards. ATI Radeon is very stable compared with NVidia. Search the web for this particular problem and you will find this is exclusive to NVidia. So far, in every case I know of that someone replaced an NVidia based card with an ATI based card, the crashes stopped.

The primary reason Nvidia became popular as compared to the ATI is NVidia has classically been faster. But, ATI has recently turned the tables on Nvidia and is now more than capable of competing with Nvidia in the speed area. Kinda reminds you of Intel vs AMD, doesn't it? This kind of competition should drive prices down for all of us just as it did with Intel and AMD. But, Nvidia is going to have to fix their issues first. They are losing customers. I know when I build a system for a customer, I no longer put an NVidia based card in it. It causes less problems for the customer, less support calls for me, and keeps my customer happy.

"Nvidia slap doesn't like the VIA chipset"
I have a nforce chip set and had the same problem with a Nvidia card

Memory is the issue in my opinion

just run a memory check and find out

Max,

Memory checks out aok, even when overclocked. That was my first suspicion. Even replacing the RAM didn't work. In my case on my personal PC, turning off AGP fast writes in BIOS solved my problem. In other PC's I've encountered in the field, I've seen everything from having to disable AGP 4X all the way to driver problems. The issue seems to be most prevalent on VIA chipsets, although it is not limited to VIA chipsets. However, the problem is always prevalent with NVidia video cards from GeForce2 through GEForce4. It's an issue they never fixed and it looks like they have no plans to. Even VIA admits that Nvidia cards have an issue with them. You can find a patch that shuts off a specific instruction set at http://www.viaarena.com that fixes the problem in a lot of cases.

Hi:
Have major video card problems. First had ATI Raedon 9200 128mb which was replaced after 3 days with 128mb Nvidia Geforce4 MX440 with AGP and TVOut. The computer store said these are similar in performance and price.

Have a brand new P4 2.4, 512mb DDR Ram, 80gig 7200 RPM hard drive, MSI motherboard. Windows XP, SP1.

From the start (with the Raedon video card) we had problems where "No Signal" appeared on monitor, screen went black, then PC rebooted itself. This happened really often, at least every 1/2 hour. After 3 days, Computer store replaced the video card with the Nvidia Geforce4. It still had the same problem. Last night I downloaded Windows XP upgrades plus an updated video driver from Microsoft (this driver was listed as a Critical update by Microsoft). I've done DirectX (version9) tests and they all passed. After the driver update the system went over 3 hours without crashing which was a record. But we've gotten the "No Signal" message a few times since, and the screen goes black and the system reboots. After the reboot I sometimes get this message. The driver for the display device was unable to complete a drawing operation. Please check for a driver update.
ZAppName: Drivers Display
ZAppVer: 10DE0181A200000000
ZModNme: Nv4_disp.dllZModver: 614.1.4351
Offset: EBB06EA

??? Should I get the computer store to replace the Video Card again with a different make? Any recommendations, considering both ATI Raedon and Nvidia are problematic?

When I bought the PC I asked for a good video card. This PC is for my son who's going away to college in a few weeks and we are very disappointed with its performance thus far as we paid good money for it. No way can my son take it away to college like this. He will play some games on it, but the problems we are experiencing so far are just during regular operation like using MS Word, browsing the net...just the regular non-game stuff.

For the first time in over 8 months i have managed to fix my problems and completed 3dmark2003 secesfuly. I had to change my power suply fan (what ever that part is called, the one that has all the power cables for hte computer hardware) and got a 350w. This is enough for a Pentium3 1.13ghz using geforce4ti4200 64mb, i am sure this will fix the problem for lots of you out there, but you might need to check how much you need for your system. I have been told that for pentium4 computers with geforce 4 ti 128mb and all similar 128mb+ cards will need at least 450w power suply in the computer. Good luck for you all in this anyway, i hope you all get it sorted soon, if not this way then any other, but good luck to all

NO FRICKING WAY: NOTHING EVER WORKS

I bought a Radeon 9600pro yesterday installed it no problems: loaded up mafia and it crashed in ten seconds. NO WAY. NO FRICKING WAY. Why does nothing ever work?

It must be my sound card...but why the heck would that crash a game? PLEASE HELP ME COMPUTER ENGINEER DUDE!!!

Since I updated the video driver from Microsoft's site 2 days ago, we've had very little problems.
Updated with version 6.14.10.4403.
Previously had 6.14.01.4351 (many problems here).
BUT
When I run the DirectX tests (version Direct X9) I get the "No Signal" message before and after the test. This happens with the 3rd DirectDraw test and with all three 3D tests. The screen goes black for a couple seconds before and after the"No SIgnal" displays. But the system doesn't shut down like it was doing before the driver update.
No games have been played since this update, but I suspect the screen going black and the "No Signal" problem would screw up the game.
Any ideas would be appreciated from you video gurus out there.
Thanks.
Lynn