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Andrew Johnson Sep 03, 2003, 08:20pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: GeForce 4 Problem with DirectX.
Okay guys/gals:

This is not a hardware problem; it is a software problem. I couldn't run GR myself up until last night. So, I'm going to give you some links and instructions.

Firstly, uninstall GR. Back up your registry before this next step. Then, go into regedit and do a search for UBISoft keys, Redstorm Entertainment keys, or Ghost Recon keys. Another key to look for is:
Hkey_LocalMachine/ software/ Microsoft/ windows/ current version/ uninstall directory there should be a folder here named "{D89EF3B3-6F17-4665-B7A9-A4235A6DC787}" It's probably not there if you installed/uninstalled the game properly, but just in case.

Uninstall the drivers for your card and install the 45.23 from Nvidia. They do work for MSI cards as well. Here is the link: http://www.nvidia.com/content/drivers/drivers.asp

After you reboot, install GR. After this, download the 1.3 patch and update to 1.3; the GR CD must be in the tray! Download and install the 1.4 patch. Again, the CD must be in the tray. The link for these patches: http://www.ghostrecon.com/patch.php?param=pcgr

Afterwards, get the game fix here: http://test.support.ubi.com/MSI_GR_Fix.zip

Put the exe in the GR folder. The beauty of this? You don't need the CD in the tray to play, at least for the MSI bundled version of it!

Good luck!

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Andrew Johnson Sep 03, 2003, 08:45pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: GeForce 4 Problem with DirectX.
Sorry, hit the button :)

I forgot one thing. The exe will replace the existing GhostRecon.exe. So, if you have the right folder, it will ask to overwrite.

I am using a VIA KT400 chipset on a Gigabyte board: GA-7VAX

DirectX 9.0b and the 4.49 VIA chipset drivers.


Uros Bartolj Sep 04, 2003, 04:06am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: GeForce 4 Problem with DirectX.
Hello all.
First my config:
CELERON 2400
MB DFI NS80-EA with a SiS Chipset
RAM DIMM 512 DDR PC 400
GeForce 4 FX 5200
Windows XP Pro
DirectX 9.0a


When playing 3D games (well, trying to), I had the same problems most of the people on this board have: frequent (after 5-15 mins of play) crashes to desktop and random resets. I tried everything (and I mean everything: diff versions of the firmware, DirectX etc) software wise to solve it. I even switched around the MB, memory (for the same type, mind you) and the graphic card for a MMX 440.

What finally solved the problem for me was setting the memory freq to
333 instead of 400 (5:3 multiplier insted of 2:1 in my BIOS). The system looks pretty stable now, I have to do some extensive sessions in Morrowind to test it though (I tested it for about 1.5 hours yesterday and it was rock steady instead of the CTD I got every 5 minutes before).

Getting some brand name memory would probably have fixed it too, but that is a far more expensive solution.

I hope this helps.
Cheers

Kate B Sep 04, 2003, 09:11pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: GeForce 4 Problem with DirectX.
Hi,
first my system:
mobo Asus P4B533-E
pentium 4 2400Mhz processor
GeForce 4 4600 Ti 128 MB
soundblaster audigy
512 RAM memory

I recently decided to clean up my computer and to reinstall windows XP - format the hard drive (so my problems are not cause by virus).
Before that everything run GREAT.
Now I'm having problems with 3D graphics I think, because older games like Red Alert 2 work fine but games like DaoC or Splinter Cell2 cause my computer to freeze/crash. My monitor goes after 3 minutes average black and sound screeches. Only way out is hard restart.

I tried everything, working my way thru this forum. But nothing seems to be working so far.
My BIOS is set on AGP VGA Card
AGP Capability - have 2 settings 4x and 1x neither of them seems to help
Graphics Aperture size - the largest is 256MB and default was 64. What is the best setting for my computer with RAM 512MB???
I tried newest drivers + directX and my old drivers + directX no help.

All other things in windows work fine, no error message just that crash.
My hardware setting didn't change - I only reinstalled winXP (I had them before too).
Hopefully somebody here would be able to help me... Please write either here or on my email - kachnickab@yahoo.com.
THANK YOU!!!

Maybe some stupid little setting in BIOS... can't figure out what


Andrew Johnson Sep 05, 2003, 08:10am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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I'm not sure about the other things, but during experimenting with aperature size, I have found 128 works the best. I'll read through your post again when I have the time and see if I can give you a solution to your problem.

Rita Horváth Sep 05, 2003, 09:14am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Hi All,
Sorry for writing into this topic, but I hope you can help me with solving this problem:
I want to use my GeForce MX 440 Tv-out card to watch movies on my TV. It worked a month ago with these conditions.
Now I tried to set back both with TV tool 8.2 and nVidia settings but the sign is very low and flickering on TV or I can't see anything. Had tried to uninstall detonator (and use NFR to clean all remains) then reinstall again to come off the problem, but nothing changed.
Please help me!
aGirlyGir

David Rubel Sep 05, 2003, 04:36pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Maybe someone can help with my problem as well. I sseem to be having the same problem that some of you are talking about. I have a geforce FX and whenever I try to play certain games, like No One Lives Forever 2 and Unreal Tornement, my system will randomly crash. I will get a black screen and a screeching type sound will loop. Only thing I can do is restart the computer. I have tried just about everything I can think of. I have updated drivers like made. I have underclocked my system. Nothing has worked so far. I am gonig mad here trying to solve this very annoying problem. If anyone can, I will eb enternaly grateful!

Kate B Sep 06, 2003, 08:29pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Hi,
little update. I reinstalled yesterday winXP - again (I think 4th time this week) and my boyfriend was able to play his game all day.... had my original (supplied on CD) drivers to the graphics card + directx8 and the PC didn't crash all day....
We left the box open + had a fan at it. I closed it now and going to test the game without the "extra cooling". If it crashes again it means its heat problem... if it doesn't I probably wont be able to tell what my solution and problem was (the PC probably got fed up with me reinstalling winxp all the time last week:))))

Or maybe there is really something in the theory somebody wrote here (or other forum...) that you should install your graphic drivers FIRST after system install.... well keep your fingers crossed for me....

Kate

Stéphane Goulet Sep 07, 2003, 11:37pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: GeForce 4 Problem with DirectX.
Hi, i havent read the thread, it's pretty long, but about geforce 4 and direct x i'd like to point you my solution, it worked out!

I got it here:

http://www.andrew.cmu.edu/~twm/stuff/directdraw.html

Simply, you have to open netmeeting, click in options remote desktop sharing, do the wizzard, click again on remote desktop sharing and disable it..
And tadam! All DirectWhatever is back enabled!

Good luck!

-Stéphane

mennouth comps Sep 10, 2003, 03:14am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Hello I am a computer tech, just built a system for a customer to play BF1942. it crashes to deskto and here is the stats personlay im baffeled,but have not tryed a patch for BF1942 yet that i just found tonight is sposed to fx it will try tomorow at work.
here is the stats
Asus P4P8X
intel P4 2.8GHZ 533fsb 256kcach
Corsair twinx512 xms memory "2X256 matched pair,pc2700, dualchanel ddr" for thoes that dont know.
Gforce4 mx440 128ddr agp 4x card
350pwr
100GB seagate ata HDD
sony cdrw
Windows xp
====all latest drivers, criticals , updates =========
The system flat out screems everything but battle field, CTD every 5 min
runs darn good for that time thoe.
Am i wrong is saying that this system should slaughter this game?


Dan O'Brien Sep 14, 2003, 06:12am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: GeForce 4 Problem with DirectX.
i'm damn glad i found this thread... i was going crazy!
but anyways... one of the solutions posted here worked for me...
and that was using "RivaTuner" and changing the AGP transfer rate from 4x to 1x... (it works on 2x for me also)

before i did that... i could barely do anything before (and not just in games) the whole system would freeze and i'd have to reset

i have an Asus GeForce4 Ti 4800 SE
AMD Athlon XP 1800+
256mg RAM (dunno what type)
Windows XP with all the updates and crap
DirectX 9.0b
latest Nvidia drivers

thanks for the help guys :D

Zach Goldsmith Sep 14, 2003, 06:23pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Ti 4200 Flickering/Garbled Screen @ XP Bootup
Don't Understand some of the MAJOR problems with my video card, Spent too much money already. WindowsXP slows to crawl at bootup, screen flickers on and off, and combines Welcome Screen in with the Desktop, and is lagged very bad. Latest Nvidia Drivers & Nforce Chipset drivers installed. I can simply go into Safe Mode and disable the driver to reboot system. As soon as i reboot, the Nvidia drivers load automaticly again. Screen Flickers a few times and is okay, but of course you have to reboot again for the drivers to take effect. Back to the same old problem if lagging, flickering, garbled screen crap. WTF is Nvidia's problem these days? Any Suggestions?

K7N2G-ILSR Motherboard Latest Bios 1.6
1 Gig DDR PC2600 Single Channel
Athlon XP 2600+
GeForce Ti 4200 8x
WindowsXP SP1a Corporate


Dies Irae Sep 15, 2003, 05:51pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Ok guys, I have solved my problem =)

As you can see on page 8 of this thread, I had done all the possible solutions, and the only thing that worked for me was setting the FSB to 100 (instead 133mhz), giving me a Athlon 1000+ processor not a 2000+ that is what my money buyed. But now i have my pc working full speed =)

In my efforts I have changed my power supply to a bigger one (450w), added new ventilation system. removed all expansion cards, updated one after other my drivers, used patches, registry settings, DirectX versions, and the only way was the FSB on 100 mhz.

But I spent some money on a new mainboard, this time not with the uggly and buggy VIA KT400 chipset, Now with the Nforce2 400 chipset from Nvidia, and all I can say is: WOW!, all my pc performance increased in more than 30%.

I want to post this comparison table (of couse the quality settings improved or decreased the Frames per seccond on each situation, and the FPS posted is the average and in the KT400FSB133 was the normal FPS before the pc/game crashed)

Game---------------KT400FSB100-----------KT400FSB133-------NforceFSB133
FS 2002...............30FPS.......................45FPS..................74FPS
JK2......................40FPS.......................65FPS..................94FPS!!
RTCW: E.T...........25FPS.......................45FPS..................88FPS.
Crash?..............Not so often..........Sure, it's a way of life......No-Not yet
Quality Used........Normal.........................High.................High-Very high
FSAA Used........Quincunx........................4X.......................4x-4s

I have tested other games FPS but I dont have ressults of the KT400FSB133 (the games crashed before playing =/ ).

Also, I have more perfformance on non intensive programs (office, mp3. etc)

So, my recommendation for you guys: Change your crappy KT400 for a Nforce, but if you dont want/cant spent more money, just addjust your FSB to 100 and in most of the cases will work.

Just some advice: I have readed on some forums of the sensibility to crappy memmory modules of the Nforce chipset, so use a good quality one ;-)

Good luck, and nice gamming =)



M Yau Sep 28, 2003, 08:29pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: GeForce 4 Problem with DirectX.
When playing 3d games my monitor switches itself into standby mode, I get a looping sound and everything is unresponsive forceing me to reboot.

My specs:

- winxp
- gainward gf4 ti4200 128mb
- msi kt4 ultra
- 512 ddr ram

please can you help :)

Dan O'Brien Oct 01, 2003, 08:04pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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specs:
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-7DXE (supports AGP 4x)
Chipset: AMD 761 / VIA 686B
Power Suply: 300W
CPU: 1800+ Athlon XP
Graphics Card: Asus GeForce 4 Ti4800SE
RAM: 1 x 256 DDR
DirectX: 9.0b
Temporary solution: Setting AGP Transfer Rate from 4x to 1x (using Riva Tuner)

When is there gonna be a fix to this problem???!!!

when i try to play games in AGP 4x... the game hangs pretty much straight away
when i try them in AGP 2x... i can play them for a little while before it hangs
AGP 1x is the most stable... but still hangs occasionally

i have no idea what any of this stuff means... i'm pretty much a novice to all this technical stuff
but does that^^ sound like it's an overheating problem? it feels pretty damn hot when i put my hand in the case... but i wouldn't have a clue if thats normal or what

can somebody please help? :(

alexander desach Oct 02, 2003, 02:35am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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this is a solution i have for geforce fx (hardaware only) and only if you need to fix it related about the overheat of the card,
IF:your card is about to blow
IF:it has the condensers a little fat
IF:ur warranty is non valid any more.
IT may screwed beacuse:1electrical over charge
2electric variaton(not having a regulator,or let it on all night,even if you turn off the cpu)
or you have have machines on wile using pc(any thing that makes your light varies of voltage (blinking)
OK:i tryed to find some one to fix it for me, in my case no1 wanted to fix it
i tryed like 20 places.
so i went to a electric store ( like STEREN)
and got a condenser they dont sale the same that nvida cards have (i only found 1 place where they sale it on the net in usa,but they sell from
500 and above)and they have to manufacturate them.
any way i got 4 of the setrens,they where 10volts 1000 microfarats.not
3.6volt like nvidias,
so i change them and now my card is working again,it is colder than before and a bit faster or at least it takes more time to make it get a bit slowly.or to low the frame rate.
.if you need to know what i did before that ,alot of stuff but i got a tweaker and lowerd the speed that was the only way my card worked,of course not like before lets say like a MX or a voodo 3200(:(
or even worst.
haa the 4 condensers cost me about 1 doll.
be carefull,its gona take you like 30 minutes to make all the move,but practice before,dont touch aby of the other parts, dont place your pen too long over the board and be aware of which side is positive ,look close there is one side painted in white,
if you have questions e_mail me. magia _senz@yahoo.com.mx

alexander desach Oct 02, 2003, 02:50am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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before you do the repair,be shure of this:
OKmy problem was :games freezes,screen goes black.etc.
1 go to direcx and check the video direct3d and direct draw,
put special atention at the acceleration via hardware .2 things may happ
1your pc freezes or boots.
2 the spining logo changes speed(too low,or too fast,or low and fast)
if thats the case turn off the pc,
and take out your graphics card,
check the capacitors (small cilinders)
if they are bumpy they are screwed.
check the small chips they look like square spiders;whit little foots)
if they are brown or black (the foot) they are screwed)even if they are a little brown(gold or like clear rust).
but those chips may have no prob,just try before the capacitors.
trust me i worked whit my card like that like 6 months(and im i xtreeeme
game player and graphics animator(3d max,americas army,je je)
so maybe your card stills functionable.
good luck and peace. :)

M Yau Oct 02, 2003, 05:55pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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still haven't solved my problem ive tried pretty much everything in this forum :(

Ella Reinbolt Oct 03, 2003, 02:16am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Hi I just read alot of the message on this post and I was wondering if you checked your bios for these 2 setting video bios shadowing the other is video bios cacheable that was my problem they both have to be disabled.

Mike Cooper Oct 03, 2003, 08:23pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: GeForce 4 Problem with DirectX.
Ok I was reading way back on page 10 about a "Sync. Out of Range" error with some games. I've installed a few games and got the same error after trying to begin playing from game menu. I didn't read all through this thread so I might be repeating advice already given.
I stumbled upon an easy fix to the problem..... well at least it worked for me.

Go to Start menu, select "Run...", in the Run "open:" text bar type "dxdiag" to run DirectX Diagnostic Tool. The very last tab should be "More Help". Click it and there should be several buttons and one will say "Override..." which is Override DirectDraw Refresh Behavior. Select "Override Value" and enter the value to match your display refresh rate then "Ok."

You might reboot just to make sure setting is saved and the problem will be fixed if yours is similar to mine. I was using a Ti4600 w/ DirectX 9.0b. It seems the problem was part DirectX and display. Forcing DirectX to refresh at the same rate as monitor made sure there wasn't any conflicts between to two.


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