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Chris Gleason Jan 14, 2004, 05:43pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: GeForce 4 Problem with DirectX.
I'm sending my MX 420 back to PNY today because the 3D Acceleration just stopped working. All these posts are making me very disheartened. Sounds like this might not fix my problem either.

System:
Athlon XP 2200
Asus A7N8X-X MB
256 MB DDR
60 GB HD
400 W power supply

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JOh Doh Jan 16, 2004, 01:52pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: GeForce 4 Problem with DirectX.
TO ANYONE WHO FINDS A SOLUTION TO THE GEFORCE Problem, Please HELP!

Here is my setup:
Mobo:SOYO Dragon KT333 Ultra (black)
CPU: AMD athlon xp 1900+
GC: Gainward Geforce 4 ti 4200 64mb
Memory: 512mb
etc..Via chip graphics controller

THere seems to be no solution to the looping problem that everyone seems to be experiencing. I do not want to spend another 200 dollars on a new graphics card because my geforce 4 ti still have plenty of life in it to play the latest and greatest games. Everyone who has reported this error can read more about it at http://www.viaarena.com . The people at VIA have worked on this problem since day 1. They have a firm knowledge of it, but im sure Nvidia knows pretty well what could be the cause. If u read 629 replies like I DID in order to fix the looping problem cause by Geforce, you will find that it will still occur regardless of biios, pwer, driver updates, etc. I have done everythng and these solutions are only temporary. There is one solution that i have tried that seems to work. SInce i own a KT333 mobo, it allowed me to switch to fail-safe mode in the bios. Having this setting turned on, caused most of my dx8.1 games to run pretty stable, BUT when i bench the card on 3dmark03, I get the balck and looping problem everyone experiences. AND yes, I get the BSOD. Oh yeah, the looping problem occurs more often when i have the graphics setting on high such as 4xAA /8x antritophic, therefore i have concluded that intense graphics processing will cause the games to crash. At times, my pc would reboot randomly. READ more on VIAarena for possible solutions!!!

For now....i will continue to do more testing ...


HARDWARE analysis doods...PLEASE HELP!!!!!!!



JOh Doh Jan 23, 2004, 02:30pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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ok, disregard my last post!

My card works fine now....all i did was install the 3D Glasses driver that came with my card and it fixed my problem. Its wasn't a heating or hardware related problem but rahter a software problem.!!!

Blah..im getting tired of posting these messages ....If u still have the problem...jsut post a new string and ill will reply......

tiblu toonekas Jan 24, 2004, 10:10am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Edited: Jan 24, 2004, 10:13am EST

 
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Story: Sun was shining and white snow everywhere. I wanted to play a game. I click the game icon and oh.. what a surprise: "d3d9.dll (and dxdiagn) not a valid Windows image". So I am a little p**sed, I reinstall DX 9.0b and I update VIA s**t and I reinstall my 43.45 (best drivers for gaming jet, forceware sucks donkeys a**). No help, and I was like getting rather p**sed. So I googled... found this forum, other doods complaining but no solutions. So I had to do something..

Cause: I think being MS Blasted a month ago made me think, what if that sick idiot fcked the DLL files. After removing MSBlast month ago and reinstalling windows some other things had been fcked too. So I thought.. what the hell.. what if DX 9.0b reinstall does not rewrite existing dx files that are of the same version.

Solution: Kill, delete, REMOVE d3d9.dll and dxdiagn.dll. (C:\Windows\System). Reinstall Dx9.0b now...

Conclusion: ROCK on doods, helped me - will help you :)

JOh Doh Jan 25, 2004, 04:24pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Tim Rube Feb 04, 2004, 08:49pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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I read through countless numbers of replies, and most of which sounded exactly like the problem I have.

no direct3d, possibly fix it for a day, then no direct draw, or both don't work, then possibly fix it for a day...

just a reboot didn't kill it, seemed like it was a shut it off and come back 24 hours later, and it wouldn't work again.

One of these posts didn't make any sense, technically, but......

I pulled my network card, then ran directx, when the dialog came up, stating the last time it tested direct3d, it failed, and would I like to deffer testing it this time....

I select no, so that direct3d gets tested, and it worked.......

I also had this same problem with a Viper770 card, that used the same nvidia driver, then I got the gforce4 fx 128, and it soon experienced the same problems. We will see tomorow if it keeps working....


tiblu toonekas Feb 06, 2004, 07:46pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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And I was like.. remove the worm, then remove DX and reboot. Reinstall DX.

Tim Rube Feb 06, 2004, 10:16pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Edited: Feb 06, 2004, 10:20pm EST

 
>> Re: GeForce 4 Problem with DirectX.
No, Worm...

At one point, I formated the drive, reloaded with XP, and the same problem. Reloaded again with win2k, and it was stable, for a day, then bang....

I did move the network card a few times, but I didn't boot with the card out of the system...

This is a bug, between a few different manufactures, which leads into why it isn't fixed...

I even ran DX detonator, backing me down to Dx8.0, then reloaded 9 from MS update.

David Barranco Feb 08, 2004, 07:06pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Edited: Feb 09, 2004, 09:42am EST

 
>> Re: GeForce 4 Problem with DirectX.
Well here we go:

CPU : AMD ATHLON 2500
MEMORY: 2 x 512 DDR 2700
MOBO: SOLTEK KT-400AC (VIA Chipset)
SOUND CARD: AUREON SPACE 7.1
GC: PNY GFORCE4 TI 4600 128 DDR
WIN XP PRO (Sp1)
DX9, latest VIA drivers, and latest detonators too

I've read all the pages in this thread and tried all solutions but no success, i've seen some post with my same problem but didnt works the solutions given.

Got the card since a year and half and the problem started like 6 months ago. My problem is when i play 3d games screen goes black and reappears with display signals. This only happens in certain cam locations, lets see i got the cam facing my char so i can see his face then the disco flashing screen shows starts but as soon as i rotate the cam the problem stops but if i put the cam again the problem goes on, if i step forward or backward the problem goes of.

I ve tried my card in others computers and works perfect, i tried an ati on mine and goes perfect. Is not memory,neither irq,neither refresh rate, its just my card in my comp doesn't works, and yes i installed test_drivers, lowerd aperture size, underclock card, unisntalled via agp drivers(i get few flahses since i did but i got some yet) and every solution given but no luck.

I also wish to know if pci latency time time value should have any role on all this mess and which value should it have since i have it at 32.

I hope anyone can help me with this s**t. Thanks

Alex Skr Feb 09, 2004, 10:08am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Hi all,

I hope it will help those, who have the "old" MoBo with VIA KT133A chip:

ASUS A7V133A, 4xAGP
AMD 1800+XP
512 Mb
Geforce FX 5700 Ultra

I had troubles installing Geforce FX 5600 (Gainward) and Geforce FX 5700 Ultra (PNY).
There was no chance to start any 2D/3D application - the systems (three Win versions) were freezing.
The latest drivers did not help. I thought I bought the broken card and sent it to Gainward. They tried to "repair" it with no succes. I still had the same problems. I purchased the PNY 5700 Ultra and it was the same hanging on.
The only one thing that completely change the situation was the changing in BIOS the acceleration rate of AGP from 4x to 2x.
Could you explain me why?


Johnny P. Feb 18, 2004, 08:44pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Ok i've only had the chance to read around 5 pages of this thread, but before i finish the 25 pages that are left...let me just state that im having the same problem:

Asus A7N8X Deluxe
AMD XP 2600
GeForce 4 Ti4600
512 Ram
XP Pro

It seems to happen on almost all 3d games i play (UT, UT2k3, UT2k4, BF1942), but the thing is that i rarely get a crash...but lets say i normally get one like once a week, and it crashes (system shuts down, seems like its in standby) around an hour or more into my gaming session....at first i just thought that playing more than an hour was just too much and my card would just over heat.....but after reading this thread..i doubt its cause of over heating.

anyways i hope we all get a resolution soon. :(

gamez gamez Feb 20, 2004, 05:19pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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i have the same pb too.
in my case after few minutes of 3d games the screen turns black and the sound loops indefinitely.
when i change the detonators and/or 4in1 via drivers the time of crashes changes i have more time with last drivers than with old one.
so i think the pb is software and not hardware.

my config
win XP home
512 Mo ddr
geforce 4 ti 4200 128Mb ddr
athlon xp 2400+ 2Ghz

Tim Rube Feb 21, 2004, 04:00pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Interestingly engough, I have been moving the network card around some and it seems to resolve the problems for a short while.

If I am using a PCI ethernet card, and this problems happens, sure fire method is to shutdown, remove the nic, then reboot, then run dxdiag, tell it to test everything, when if succedes, shut down, reinstall the NIC.

And it should be good to go, for a while....

I have tried using a usb nic, and was able to get it up and running, except when direct3d stoped functioning, removing the nic didn't fix it. but, placing the PCI nic in, then rebooting, then shutingdown and removing the nic, then, run dxdiag without the nic, then shutdown and reinstall nic.

seems to work every time.


Sambo Eam Mar 02, 2004, 08:15pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Hi everyone!

My problem I don't know if it relates to DirectX at all but it is similar!
My computer freezes up on any 3d games after about 10 seconds. Some games restart my comp instantly other freeze. I've tried several things I've read on this forum. The only thing that seems to work is underclocking my video card. I wonder why heat is an issue. My card runs at avg 35 degreees??!! Is that hot?! I didn't think it was? It seems as soon as it nears 40 is when my card wont function properly. This seems like a serious hardware defect! Any new information as to this problem anyone??

I NEED HELP ! My warantee just ended tooo those bastards!
THANX everyone!

Sambo

gamez gamez Mar 07, 2004, 09:34am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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mmh ok guys

it seems to be a problem of compatibility with opengl 1.4 and windows.

i dont know how to do to downgrade opengl to 1.3

SuPeR Xp Mar 09, 2004, 02:05am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: GeForce 4 Problem with DirectX.
Read my post in this Forum

http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/23115/

It may help all of you with the GeForce 4 series cards.

Don't rule out AMD so fast, they can't be the best all the time. ;)
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S N Mar 23, 2004, 02:47pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Edited: Mar 23, 2004, 02:49pm EST

 
>> Re: GeForce 4 Problem with DirectX.
I have noticed this about the problem on my computer :

With 256MB ram : No problems
With 512MB ram : nv4_disp.dll and win32k.sys BSOD errors
With 768MB ram : No problems

Setup :
AMD Athlon XP 1800+
MSI 745 Ultra mobo
MSI G4Ti 4200 64MB 4xAGP
768MB PC2700 ram
Windows XP Pro SP 1a

The newest drivers from http://www.nvidia.com
DirectX 9.0b

Don't know why there is problems with 512MB!?

SuPeR Xp Mar 24, 2004, 12:28am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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For your MSI G4Ti 4200 64MB 4xAGP, use the 41.09 drivers instead of the newer ones. The newer drivers are more for the GeForce FX series and don't perform as well on the GF4's.

Don't rule out AMD so fast, they can't be the best all the time. ;)
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Johnny P. Mar 24, 2004, 05:45pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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btw i think i fixed my problem,
my rig:

amd xp 2600+
geforce 4 ti 4600
512 mb ram pc2100

my system would do that "standby" think you guys talk about, around an hour into my gaming sessions, but i noticed it stoped when i went into my bios and switched my graphics aperture size from 512mb to 256mb and since then i havn't had a crash yet...i even played ut2k4 for 2 hours str8 and no crash.

i hope this helps someone.

SuPeR Xp Mar 24, 2004, 09:41pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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That's a large graphics aperture size. All you need is 128MB. Even if you have a 256MB DDR board.

Don't rule out AMD so fast, they can't be the best all the time. ;)
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