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SuPeR Xp Jan 01, 2005, 04:53am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Edited: Jan 01, 2005, 04:56am EST

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starfox x Feb 22, 2005, 07:55am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: A Cool Overclocking guild for AMD CPU's
what a great post! thanks! :)


I have overclocked my amd 64 3400 @ 2.52mhz
which is stable, however, my RAM runs at 166mhz by default, but I did buy a ddr400 3200 ram, so I dont understand why by default it only runs at 166/333. Any ideas???

If i increase the ram to run at 200/400 cl 3.0 the system becomes unstable and crashes, so i have to use 166/333 ram speeds. At 166/333 speeds i am able to run CL:2.0 and CL:2.5 ok.

Any ideas anyone ??? :P


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Supreet Virdi Feb 22, 2005, 08:02am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: A Cool Overclocking guide for AMD CPU's
What is Overclocking dude? :|

Nice thread super good job :P

Merlin Feb 27, 2005, 04:52pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: A Cool Overclocking guild for AMD CPU's
overclocking or o/cing is 'boosting' the performance of ur rig by changing some key factors in ur pc. very complicated.

Rory Witham Feb 27, 2005, 05:18pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: A Cool Overclocking guild for AMD CPU's
Notes and answer to the question.

ON AMD 64 CPUs the HTT multiplier and the FSB adds to the RAM speeds. The FSB for example @220 and a multiplier of 4 = 880MHZ, the CPU say is running 2.2Ghz, If you set the ram @133 speeds as you have moved it up from 200, it will be running @166Mhz (333)

If you want to see what the speeds are running at get the correct clockgen from here http://www.cpuid.com/clockgen.php

If you find that you DDR RAM will run 200 then change the divider to a low number or up it too 166Mhz -2:1

Most RAM will run @ 220 Mhz after this point you will need to drop the latacy on the ram,
typically. RAM Times are
2.5-2-2-6 133MHZ
2.5 2-2-7 166MHZ
3.0 3-3-8 200MHZ

You will find other setings you will not be able to adjust with out technical knowledge of the RAM and the set up.

As most people use DDR 400 here are the settings - TRCD & tRP must be the same 3 is fine TRAS is 8 and the CL 3.
which will give you 3-3-3-8 (16)
You can check what your RAM is running by using CPU-z http://www.cpuid.com/cpuz.php

Alot of ram will hold a lower time if its 2.6V move it to 2.8V RAM is hardwareing so there is little chance of killing it. some DDR ram or higher run slower (biger times) whihc will not be good, so avoid lose time ram regardless of the speed as this will not work well, up the numbers or down the speed that your exspecting to gain (set the divider)

Some AMD 64 Winchesters (90nm) will run at high speeds with outhe need to up the core, in fact i found out that it crashed when I tried a high Vcore.. this is not normal.. but this is to say that EACH HARDWARE ITEM will not clock the same as another.


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wlk Feb 27, 2005, 05:58pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: A Cool Overclocking guild for AMD CPU's
nice post dude. Can't wait till i've saved enough for my new system

AMD Athlon 64 X2 6400+
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SuPeR Xp Mar 02, 2005, 08:18pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: A Cool Overclocking guild for AMD CPU's
Well, if you do build your Athlon 64 system, try going with the OCZ Rev. 2.0 Platinum Edition EL 2-2-2-5 1T in Dual Channel DDR400 1024MB (512MB x 2)

This Ram Rocks & I found it for an amazing price of $359cad which is around $287usd.
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Rory Witham Mar 06, 2005, 10:26pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: A Cool Overclocking guild for AMD CPU's
IM yet to bench that OCZ EL stuff, I really want to as well see if it all it says it is..

I got some premier Im gotin to bench in the next few weeks, but single wise its not bad.. but really is 3200 - being 3.2G/s
Its not to all the buyer out there, NF4 best clock A-data RAM or TCCD ram moduals. (both is better) and DFI motherboard seam to top out of most HC OC's mobo lists..

Heres a good link as well:
http://i4memory.com/showthread.php?t=327



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Donovan_MG Mar 12, 2005, 11:54am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: A Cool Overclocking guild for AMD CPU's
Nice info guys!

Not sure exactly how to do this stuff as I have never tried to overclock anything...

As you can hopefully see by my signature what kind of system I have.. or should say.. will have. I just bought all this stuff on Mar 11 and should be here in a few days.. not counting weekends.

Total cost for the whole thing was $ 2,147.35!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I do have a few questions though regarding overclocking.... based on my specs.. spicifically the RAM.. which, again, is:

Corsair XMS Extreme Memory Speed Series, (Twin Pack) 184 Pin 1GB(512MBx2) DDR PC-3200 - Retail
Model# TWINX1024-3200C2PT
Item # N82E16820145450
Specifications:
Manufacturer: Corsair
Speed: DDR400(PC3200)
Type: 184 Pin DDR SDRAM
Error Checking: Non-ECC
Registered/Unbuffered: Unbuffered
Cas Latency: 2-3-3-6 T1
Bandwidth: 3.2GB/s
Organization: two 64M x 64 -Bit
Special Features: With Platinum Heat Spreader
Warranty: Lifetime

Question: Look at the CL.... is this ok.. and if it is.. what can I do to overclock it.. or do I even need to? Being that this is a 2.4 gig machine..essentually... is there really any point in overclocking it.. and if I do, will I really see THAT much improvement?

One more question....!!

This is pretty dumb.. but I was just thinking about when my stuff gets here and building it and all..... and I have built a few other puters in my time as well... but one thing that I never noticed or maybe never had to do was install a fan on the heatsink for the CPU... does it blow down ON the heatsink?? Or does it blow the air up OFF the heatsink? DOH

THanks in advance for your help...




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Harris Walktin Mar 12, 2005, 02:31pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: A Cool Overclocking guild for AMD CPU's
Just Thought i might add that overclocking any hardware component voids the manufacturer warrenty, and in most cases the store that built it for you(if thats the case).

- Harris W. -AMD Employee
AMD cannot be held responsible for any damage done to your PC by my advice. My advice is valid.
Harris Walktin Mar 12, 2005, 02:35pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: A Cool Overclocking guild for AMD CPU's
As well, overclocking cuts down on the life of any hardware component.

- Harris W. -AMD Employee
AMD cannot be held responsible for any damage done to your PC by my advice. My advice is valid.
OCGW Mar 12, 2005, 02:45pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Edited: Mar 12, 2005, 02:46pm EST

 
>> Re: A Cool Overclocking guild for AMD CPU's
I respectfully disagree w/ Mr. Walktin

The main "enemy" of IC (cpu) life is HEAT, not clock speed

If your cpu runs @ 55C @ stock speeds w/ stock cooling

& my cpu runs @ 40C @ a 20% OC (Due to it's "MASSIVE" cooling)

My cpu WILL last longer

In my most "huuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuumble" of opinions

OCGW

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SuPeR Xp Mar 12, 2005, 05:19pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: A Cool Overclocking guild for AMD CPU's
I agree 1000%.

My Athlon 64 3200+ @ 2.00GHz is OverClocked to 2.70GHz with a nice CPU temp of 24C to 28C. Even Hours of gaming, the CPU will only reach about 35C to 38C or so.

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Donovan_MG Mar 13, 2005, 01:03am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: A Cool Overclocking guild for AMD CPU's
so.. no one is going to answer my questions? uummmm... bummer! :(




D out :)

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Harris Walktin Mar 13, 2005, 09:21am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: A Cool Overclocking guild for AMD CPU's

- Harris W. -AMD Employee
AMD cannot be held responsible for any damage done to your PC by my advice. My advice is valid.
Rory Witham Mar 13, 2005, 10:48am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: A Cool Overclocking guild for AMD CPU's
CPU life and hardware over clocking.

IN most normal terms clocking your hardware shortens it life as its working harder, but consider this!

What is the life of the hardware as standard?

How long will you keep the hardware?

Lets say in most cases you keep your hardware 2 -3 years then with overclocking this should be well within the life of your hardware and also that the overclock even if it were to half the life should work fine for that duration, As above mentioned, you will void warranty of that hardware.

I have run clock systems for over 2 years with out issues,

But remember to burn in the hardware before clocking and to clock the system as a whole, which will give you much better performance and limit bottle necks and stress points


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OCGW Mar 14, 2005, 04:34pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Edited: Mar 14, 2005, 04:39pm EST

 
>> Re: A Cool Overclocking guild for AMD CPU's
To: Mr. Waltkins

"however you have to remember that the heat is still generated. You do not see it because it gets disspitated quickly"

Off course hsf disapate heat, that's their job,

DUH!

& if you "quickly" disapate the heat before it "builds up", your OC'd cpu will last LOOOOOOONGER than a stock cpu w/ stock cooling

You just have to learn not to make "absolute", & unqualified statements, then you won't be the position you are in now, trying to argue a point that is FALSE

& 16GHz, man WTF have you been smokin'???????????????????????????????????????????????????

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jjcom Mar 18, 2005, 05:38pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Hey,
Thanks guys, I'm glad you like my guide. Thanks for posting the guide XP! :D Glad to see it making its way around the web

jjcom

SuPeR Xp Mar 18, 2005, 05:57pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Edited: Mar 18, 2005, 05:59pm EST

 
>> Re: A Cool Overclocking guild for AMD CPU's
No Problem, that is why I quoted you at the bottom of the page.
"I like to thank : jjcom from XS.org for this great INFO."

This guild really helped a lot of people in Hardware Analysis. Thanks again.

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Rory Witham Mar 18, 2005, 11:00pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: A Cool Overclocking guild for AMD CPU's
I really love the way people argue, when building hardware and stuff, there is hell of alot more than meets the eye before a educated guess can be made let alone factual info.
I have had to build the lastest and greatest in mos things which gives me some what a upper hand.

regardless of heat disapation the wear is equal simply disregarind a heat issue by better cool may give a instant relife to the heat issue bit not to the harder work that is need regaless on any other issue.

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SuPeR Xp Mar 18, 2005, 11:06pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: A Cool Overclocking guild for AMD CPU's
Well, then if you built the latest & the greatest, then which Athlon 64 did you choose?

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