Seeing an upcoming "war" between this two formats...I wish to know ur opinions about which is better(or would be) and which is the one format that will be the market leader..blu ray?? or hd-dvd

Personally I think Blu-ray is goin to win....it carries up to 200gb which means...better video quality or more video time...So u people who think HD-DVD is better come here and tell me y because I think HD-DVD is just a waste of time come and tell y is not!!!!!!!!!......lol

post ur opinions here..

I think blu-ray will come out trumps, the fact that the PS3 is using it can only help too. HD-DVD wont go without a fight though, thers some big companies backing it: Toshiba, Sanyo and NEC are alll big rollers.

David.

majority of the biggest Movie companies are backing HD-DVD the only reason BluRay is still in the running is because Disney is backing it now which means all there film studios will be backing it as well. BluRay will be more expensive as well... I think HD-DVD will end up comming out on top because the fact its cheaper and more companies are behind it so far.

Well but does anyone know technical details about the disc....but which format is better in terms of technical cappabilities...etc

Do a quick google search of blu-ray vs hd-dvd and loads of hits come up.


This ones worth a read.

http://reviews.cnet.com/4520-8900-5600201-1.html

David.

In terms of capacity and performance, Blu-Ray is better, but HD-DVD is compatible with current technology, allowing the industry to start using them right away.


BluRay:

Uses a blue-violet optical laser instead of a red, allowing a more narrow, but higher bandwidth. Because the optical lens reads a more narrow band, there are more tracks and sectors on a single layer.

Disks can accomodate up to 25GB per layer, with current support for up to two layers.

Read and write speeds are faster than current optical lenses... up to 36Mb/s.

Current supporters: Dell, Disney, Hitachi, HP, JVC, LG, Mitsubishi, Panasonic, Pioneer, Philips, Samsung, Sharp, Sony, TDK and Thomson.


HD-DVD:

Uses current red laser optical readers. MPAA and movie studio backed, because of read only standardization(that's right, you won't be able to write disks in this format).

Supports all current players. Capacities of 4.7gb per layer, just like standard DVDs. The only difference between standard DVDs and HD-DVD is the compression format used.

Sean the capacity of HD-DVD is 15GB on a single layer and WILL not play on a standard DVD player. there are movies such as the Star Wars DVDs that were scanned in HIGH DEFINITION but they ARE NOT HD-DVD because the capcity is too small.

The compression isnt the only diffrent aspect the disk its self is actually diffrent as well. The first HD-DVD player will be out this fall.

http://www.hddvdprg.com/hddvd/hddvd_3.html

I've read two different explanations of the technology.

The more practical one is the one I explained... but the better one is the one explained on that website.


Either way, BluRay kicks the crap out of HD-DVD and should become the industry standard.

Yea the major technology of HD-DVD is going to be what I showed you there will be a new player and everything its supossed to be whats in competion for Blu-Ray. I agree I thik I like the idea of BluRay as well because the capacity will be much larger the PS3s going to use it etc etc.... but who knows the higher price might turn off consumers because they dont care about whats better.....

CD's use infrared (although nearing the visible spec), then it moved to a shorter, visible wavelength for DVD. why not save time by going to straight to Gammawave. I mean theres Blue, Violet, UV, Xray, Gamma Ray, ZPE, eventually BluRay or HD-DVD will be replaced with something that uses a higher frequency/lower wavelength.

Theres no need for any tbh.

Yes Blu-ray kicks out the cr** out of HD-DVD...AND WTF??? U CANT WRITE ON HD-DVD?!?!?!? that really sucks....I wont ever buy a HD-DVD (HD DVD sucks all u people who think its better think again...Go blu-ray soon Ill be able to store my 24gb nintendo 64 rom collection in a blu-ray...no HD-DVD cant store that huge amount...ahhhhh...toshiba is crazy!!!! how could toshiba back up that kind of format....) off cource drm and all that sh** would be perfectly in HD-DVD because u cant do u own HD-DVD...well about blue ray price...after companies start making BD-DVD and there is a lot of offer...prices will go down and could equal HD-DVD ones(if by that time HD-DVD is still alive) so when that happens everyone will start buying BD-DVD because of quality and more recording time....and maybe if HD-DVD wont go down....there will be double format players and stuff...blu ray rules hd-dvd sucks blu ray=next standard...hahahaha now sony will get its revenge from the last war...lol

BluRay might actually be cheaper, after you have the player and recorder of course.

Yeah Sony argues that their prices will be higher at first, but will drop to compete with HD-DVD in the long run.

And BTW, EA announced their backing of Blu-Ray, if consoles other than PS3 use it and if Blu-Ray makes a home on PC.

Hopefully, though, until time solves the Blu-Ray vs. HD-DVD problem, some companies that are not currently backing one format will produce players that have a Blu-Ray drive and an HD-DVD drive. Though they might be expensive. Oh well.

And for the record:

http://www.googlefight.com/cgi-bin/compare.pl?q1=Blu-Ray&q...;langue=us

That's an awesome site lol.


Intel (59,900,000 results) versus AMD (35,100,000 results)

The winner is: Intel

Microsoft (186,000,000 results) versus Apple (88,200,000 results)

The winner is: Microsoft

Windows (283,000,000 results) versus Linux (221,000,000 results) versus Mac (107,000,000 results)

The winner is: Windows


What I don't understand is why BluRay doesn't just sit under the operating table for another few months and gets upgraded to UVRay.

We'd have single layer disks that have 50GB capacities... definitely enough for any HD content.

Thats what u think....In some years that wont be close than enough...ohh yea some years ago people though the 1.44mb floppy disk was enough for any content...now what thats not even close to have more than 3 min of music..thats what probbably happening with hd content...It will get so Hd that It would take so much space...and 50gb wont be enough.....is a 4gig enough for HD content??? nope and thats what most people though some years ago..see my point??

Here's a good way to see what they have to offer.

http://electronics.howstuffworks.com/blu-ray.htm

HD-DVD is covered in that article.

http://electronics.howstuffworks.com/blu-ray4.htm

Jay

Juan, high definition video is classified as video encoded to resolutions of either 720p (1280x720), 1080i(1920x1080 interlaced), or the very rare 1080p (1920x1080 progressive scan)... with bit rates ranging from 1.5Mbit/sec to 4Mbit/sec.

Most broadcast content is 1.5Mbit/sec, whereas high definition DVDs are banking on 4Mbit/sec.

I'm too lazy to do the math... but 50GB will accomodate a full season of any TV show recorded in HD.

I know but My point is that even though that 50gb is enough for TODAY'S video and hd needs...in the future this would probbably be enough..like with every remobable data format we have created(cd,floppys) so 200gb will probbably assure a longer lasting of this technology

HD broadcasting is only meant to replace standard 480i broadcast TV.

HD-DVD is only meant to replace standard 480i/p DVD.

In terms of quality, 1080i is a significant advance that will last at least the next 10 years.

The media doesn't have to stay tied down to the broadcasting technology. They're two seperate entities that will progress at different rates.

One year you might have 50GB BluRay disks, and the next you have 75GB disks.

Eventually, they'll move to ultra violet disks... and then to holographic disks, which are expected to hold terabytes of data(because they're multi-angular optical disks).

Blu-Ray discs hold double the data of HD-DVD discs. (Per layer)

It is unlikely that either of the formats will ever get past 2 layers, especially Blu-Ray.

Blu-Ray is a lot more expensive, a lot less reliable, and a lot less damage resistant.

HD-DVD can refer to two different things.

The physical disc
OR
The proposed compression scheme

BOTH formats will be re-writable.
Blu-Ray discs will be significantly more expensive, and recording speeds limited.
Blu-Ray writers will likely cost more.

It is unlikely that we'll see double format drives.

MS is pushing HD-DVD, so it will probably be used in the next xbox.
Sony is pushing Blu-Ray, so it will probably be used in the PS3. (I think it's actually been confirmed)
And the successor to the gamecube. Nobody knows.

The pros of Blu-Ray are
About double the capacity of HD-DVD
The cons of Blu-Ray are
More expensive, less reliable, Sony's proprietary-ness (Memory Stick? Magic Gate MD? Beta), more prone to damage.

The pros of HD-DVD are
Cheaper, more reliable, easy to convert current manufacturing plants to hd-dvd, more damage resistant, backed by movie groups.
The cons of HD-DVD are
About half the data of Blu-Ray

BOTH formats will most likely incorporate a new compression scheme.
Both WILL need new players
Both WILL eventually have writers (and Blu-Ray writing may be seriously hamepered by DRM)

The format for how the movies/audio will work is still undecided. 1080p is possible. It's just data on a disc.

The issue in front of us is the physical discs. Format (for movies, audio, etc) specs and options are numerous, with talks of there being one side for DVD and one for HD-DVD, or one layer that's re-writable with one layer that's not, etc.

I would hope that HD-DVD succeeds, because with the newer compression schemes, we can get HD stuff to fit onto regular DVDs and still maintain great quality.
The doubled space of blu-ray is not worth the extra cost in my opinion.

And if Sony is using Blu-Ray for PS3, you KNOW their writers are going to built to not be able to read/burn them on a hardware level.