If he was a sociable person, which I doubt he is, considering he cannot socialize like everybody else in a forum, he would consider both sides and list both sides pro's and con's. I know a guy that's autistic that act's just like Sean B. Autistic people are not capable of understanding people's emotions to the fullest, nor how to socialize.

If you Intel loving people like Sean B want's to challenge me, please bring it on!. I will prove MYSELF that my little 3500+ will probably chew anything you can throw at me at my OC settings.

Just a quick question:

If Intel's EMT64 isn't 64 bit and they got it from AMD, does that mean AMD64 bit is not 64 bit?

p.s. Please stop the personal attacks on Sean B, it just makes us all look like idiots.

I will say whatever I want to say about Sean B. He came in here and caused a lot of arguing and he always dogged everyone that had an AMD system.

"If Intel's EMT64 isn't 64 bit and they got it from AMD, does that mean AMD64 bit is not 64 bit?"

What this means is that a few original instructions which Intel uses for there CPU's are only 32-Bit where as AMD's Athlon 64 are 48-Bit & 64-Bit.

This does not have anything to do with AMD64's instruction sets. Thanks to the AMD64, both CPU's will do anything in 64-Bit mode 100%, despite Intel's original 32-Bit instructions which they cannot change without a complete CPU overhaul with a NEW design.

thanks, superxp, that was something i've never been quite clear on (along with: 3.2GHz dual core, is that 2 x 3.2 GHz or 2 x 1.6GHz? )

@chris gregory

why don't you just let the facts speak for themselves instead of behaving like a testosterone charged meathead? Check my specs in my sig, Sean has never 'dogged' me, he's been a help a couple of times. Just try to understand: you are a customer, you do not work for AMD, you have no involvement with AMD other than giving them money. It is a PRODUCT. Do you get this worked up over which tin of beans is better at the store?

LOL, sorry. He has said some stuff to me that I took personal. I don't take him dogging my specs personally, but when he comes in here and just slams a negative attitude in a lot of threads that I post in, that get's really annoying and makes me not like him.

I'm with Chris Gregory 100%.
Sean B also said bad personal stuff about me on threads I wasn't even involved in. That really ticked me off, because I tried hard to have a great open minded conversation. Every time anybody mentions AMD, he starts going MAD & disses AMD & everybody which owned one.

Sean B called Athlon 64’s Doggly Pieces of Junk.
Like I said before, that Sean B needs a Head Exam.
I have never seen such hatetread toward AMD from anybody here as much as Sean B.

ya i noticed that to and decided to intervine.

^)_(^ vs. (^)_(^) who will win???

in the red coner... an INTEL mofo

and in the blue corner an AMD mofo

how could i see this coming when i read the thread title...
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some good stuff in here i read most of it with interest. and sean you got some kinda rocket scientist brain in your head or something....
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i especailly liked the post on the dual opterons, eh! i think i might buy a setup like that.... someday

Let's have some fun. Let's look at actual benchmarks of Intel's current CPU vs. AMD's. Notice how the 200$ 3200+ completely owns Intel's 1000$ CPU's as HL2. Any benefits with 64 bit is just gravy as far as I'm concerned.

http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=2330&p=2

Seth Tucker,

I've been explaining this to everybody over & over without dissing Intel's CPU's. And many believe that AMD rules in Gaming & others believe that all review sites which show AMD winning is being paid off by AMD.

Totally ridicules if you ask me.
And to name a few of these bright souls Sean B, you know the head strung guy which thinks AMD is a conspirator or something. Yes, the guy which can't wait for Intel to dominate in a monopoly so that we will all be stuck with Pentium 4 3.0 GHz CPU’s until 2009.

I will show you some raw CPU performance Mr. Tucker I will re=overclock my hardware and I can guarantee unless you got an overclocked FX-55, you can't beat me.

in gaming you will but not in encoding

intel's clockspeed really works in encoding tasks

I will come really close, withing a 5% margin of the Intel you throw at me at encoding.

AMD's new Venus cores with SSE3 will rock multimedia & encoding according to some speculates and a few review sites which have beta copies of the chip.

The new Venus cores will take over the Winchester line.
Venus Cores w/ SSE3, 90nm & Strained Silicon
3700+ (Mainstream)
4200+ (High End)
4300+ (Mobile S 939)
San Diego Core w/ SSE3, 90nm & Strained Silicon
FX-57 (Enthusiast)

no one is certain of anything that either amd nor intel has in-store for its consumers. they might say this and that, but if they reach a breakthrough, or are operating at high secrecy, no one is certain if the tide must change. remember that both companies are trying their best. not to be an intel fan, but have you seen the breakthrough of intel with their laser silicon application, i read it somewhere that the minimum bandwidth they can achieve was 10gb/sec. also, i read it somewhere that they are fully capable of producing it on their factories. this might be a solution for their crippled bandwidth. as to the forum topic, as sean said, both are just instructions added as far as i also understand it. also what super said, it is important to stick with the x86 first then make the transition through x86-64, then to a pure 64-bit system. well, that summarizes all my readings about the topic.

Regarding SSE3, AMD had this in on there website in there tech documents.

My 2.5ghz celeron will rape any 3500+ or fx55 or even fx61 that challenge it, even noobs know this is true
fear my power muhahahahah