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Christopher Fields Jan 13, 2005, 11:53am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Edited: Jan 13, 2005, 11:54am EST

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blaaaaaaaaaaaa! Here's my take. I am a respected performance leader here in my area. My specialty is "High performance gaming systems". I have never..........never never............had such issues or problems with any other system as the one I have had problems with this week! SLI....in my opinon is a waste. The drivers are beta, they suck, I have tested Halo, Unrealtournament 2004, FarCry, Doom 3 and more. These games endorse Nvidia as the best to use for their games (Halo excluded).

The bench marks are good, but people when it comes down to it, reliability and performance is where it is at. I have since ordered myself a new x800XT PCI Express and have taken these 6800 Ultras back to the manufac. and sent them my opinion. I was using a 3500+ AMD 64 939 socket with the new ASUS Dual SLI board. I think since the Ti4200-4800 series cards, Nvidia has had some trouble getting back into the game.

My previous x800 Pro 256mg was and still is a great gaming card. I sure hope ATI will soon answer on this SLI option and show Nvidia how thiss**t is done!


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Josh Jan 13, 2005, 01:06pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Re: NVIDIA's SLI, the iPod of the computer industry?
I don't have any experience with SLI, whether it's any good or not, but you know that you've got to give it to NVidia for making it first.

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Sander Sassen Jan 13, 2005, 01:09pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Re: NVIDIA's SLI, the iPod of the computer industry?
Oh I'll agree with you that properly setting up an SLI system can be somewhat challenging, especially if you don't have access to a whole range of components to test with. I can honestly tell you we've gone through quite a few rounds of testing before we got our system running just as stable with SLI as with a single card. Most of these issues are PSU related though, and due to NVIDIA not including PSUs in their SLI certification program yet it is often trial-and-error to find one that works.

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Rooin Jan 13, 2005, 01:27pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Edited: Jan 13, 2005, 02:00pm EST

 
>> Re: Re: NVIDIA's SLI, the iPod of the computer industry?
I think about how great SLI would be to have..... woohooo FPS, performance... great gaming experience...
I mean what could be better then havin ONE 6800U When you can have TWO 6800U Working TOGETHER!

an then you look at the price tag $$$$. *jaw drop*

After Bring my Rig into the gaming era again by purchasing a 6800GT. Im Content with just that. I just now upgraded from a Ti4600, I felt the same way when I got that one as I did my 6800GT (WOOOOOT) Games never ran so smoothly on my PC as they do right now.

I can remember back in the day.......... The Banshee was the hottest thing on the GFX market... and I wanted to have one.. funny thing is I never DID get one.....Nope I got a Geforce 2 16mb later.....
an then.... Came my Ti4600.... an it was amazing UT didnt lag when you got Mini-gunned in the face! it was 'Splendid' to say the least....an now 6800GT, High-Res - Uncompressed -Smooth -Fully shaded Graphic Gaming Delight!
But still we want bigger, badder, better GPU's...

*sigh* We as computer "Geru's" will never be happy with our toys I dont think.... :P

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Thermalfreak Jan 14, 2005, 05:50am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Re: NVIDIA's SLI, the iPod of the computer industry?
yup happy for the first couple o days b4 we need another upgrade

I always say you can never go wrong buying the second or third best....cuz then youre always dreaming of THE best and still enjoy what you have....

otherwise once you get THE best thing you go onto these forums and brag about it to p**s everyone off cuz bragging and p**sing other peopel off is the only thing that can make you happy till the next bad boy :P

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Surranó Jan 14, 2005, 10:06am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Afaik...
Voodoo 2 isn't called SLI
Just a shy note... :)

Sander Sassen Jan 14, 2005, 10:24am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Re: NVIDIA's SLI, the iPod of the computer industry?
Oh, most certainly it is, to quote from a previous article:

"Voodoo2 actually made sure that 3dfx reigned supreme for quite some time as two cards could be combined in something called an SLI, Scan Line Interleave, configuration. Each card rendered half of the image scan lines which resulted in double the performance of a single board and the ability to play OpenGL games such as Quake 2 in a 1024x768 resolution."

Nvidia SLI, SLI's back with a vengeance
http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/search/results/article/1728/

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Steve S Jan 14, 2005, 12:13pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Re: NVIDIA's SLI, the iPod of the computer industry?
I wish game designers would concentrate more on game play than jaw dropping graphics that require bleeding edge hardware.
You could compare watching a block buster film or reading the book. If the book (or the game play) is engaging enough, you don't need eye candy. Of couse it would be nice to have both...


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Surranó Jan 14, 2005, 01:55pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Re: NVIDIA's SLI, the iPod of the computer industry?
Bah :) I really thought that they did not *call* it SLI. Thinking again, it is the new nV cards that shouldn't be called SLI, since it's not interleave anymore. Or am I mistaken?

Daniel m Jan 14, 2005, 07:35pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Re: NVIDIA's SLI, the iPod of the computer industry?
SLI is now shortened as for "Scalable Link Interface"

Freak Head Jan 14, 2005, 09:44pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Re: NVIDIA's SLI, the iPod of the computer industry?
SLI is sweet for the few that can afford it or are crazy enough to purchase it. But SLI the next Ipod? Nah. The Ipod isn't obsolete a few years later and they are a bit less than the $900 plus dollars SLI costs. 6600 gt doesn't count.

Also there is little advantage to SLI at the resolutions that most LCDs run at.

at 1600x1200 SLI does pretty good. I don't it's worth it if you own an LCD. Also consider that you can spend the extra $600 on a faster cpu instead of buying another vid card and an expensive SLI motherboard.


Hiram Miller III Jan 14, 2005, 11:34pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Re: NVIDIA's SLI, the iPod of the computer industry?
I am ordering my card and mobo upgrade Monday. Was going to go with the 6800GT, but alas, I am an EQ2 player, and for those who don't know, 6800+EQ2=Player Hell :( So, although I was hyped about getting SLI, I am going to opt for the X800 XT instead, maybe get SLI when EQ2 is fixed :)

Surranó Jan 15, 2005, 12:35am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Re: NVIDIA's SLI, the iPod of the computer industry?
SLI is now shortened as for "Scalable Link Interface


Well, then it's not the same "SLI" after all ;)

Kash Jan 15, 2005, 01:35am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Re: NVIDIA's SLI, the iPod of the computer industry?
Hiram, I have an unlocked and oc'ed 6800OC and EQ2 runs fine at 1280x1024 with almost everything on High. The only reason it runs slow is because I only have 512MB. I recommend that if you don't have 1GB and are playing EQ2, then get yourself up to 1GB. My friend is running a 9600 Pro and he has it at 1024x768 with stuff on Medium and he says it runs fine, even in town.

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Christopher Fields Jan 15, 2005, 03:59am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Re: NVIDIA's SLI, the iPod of the computer industry?
wtf? is EQ2? it's not an RTS/RTSRPG is it, gahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Marijan Kovacevic Jan 15, 2005, 03:36pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Re: NVIDIA's SLI, the iPod of the computer industry?
well I am also very curious about what EQ2 means...
what kind of game is that if it is game

Only Earth Quest came up to my mind :)

Thermalfreak Jan 15, 2005, 09:04pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Re: NVIDIA's SLI, the iPod of the computer industry?
(Bangs head on wall)

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kamakazi Jan 16, 2005, 05:53am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Re: NVIDIA's SLI, the iPod of the computer industry?
Hey chirs I have put together around 10 or so machines with SLI, and i only had an issue with one of them, and that was a pair of 6800gt's. The problem was one of the cards was broken in shipment. The power side of things should be known to anyone who knows anything about SLI or just video cards in general. You said you were one of the leaders in your area, but can you put your bad experience with SLI down to, driver problems or just a bad job of installing it all. I only say this because I dont know of anyone who hasnt got their SLI system to what it should be on their 2nd look at the problem. If there is anyone out there with an SLI horror story i would like to hear it please.

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Marijan Kovacevic Jan 16, 2005, 05:53am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Re: NVIDIA's SLI, the iPod of the computer industry?
EQ2 means Ever Quest 2

here is link :)

http://everquest2.station.sony.com/

there is no need to punch your head against wall any more :)

Gamerz Jan 16, 2005, 06:16am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Re: NVIDIA's SLI, the iPod of the computer industry?
I think that SLi is a great idea, but in practice is as yet a waste. Imagine, you spend £840 on a pair of 6800 Ultras, and then the next set of cards (6900 Ultra?) is not only better performance wise, which is something you have to accept whenever you buy new hardware, but much more stable and so gets a bigger increase in performance from SLi.

Then there's ATi's AMR to consider, which I have heard will be a much more efficient usage of 2 cards.

So I think the right time to buy will be when ATi have released their AMR, or if the FX-57 turns out to be dual core and you buy a computer to last a few years.

Gamerz
kamakazi Jan 16, 2005, 08:02am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Re: NVIDIA's SLI, the iPod of the computer industry?
Dont you think its funny that one company releases a product lets call it "SLI" and then its rival, waits for it too come out and see some results that it gets, then engineers thier product to be slightly better, I mean its inevitable but it still annoys me, so really whoever makes the first move seems to loose the "lead" because the other company can put thier product out a little bit later and change it so its better than the other.

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