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Cimmerian Freeman Mar 03, 2005, 08:59pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Asus A8N-SLI FAQ
Hi everyone, first off. Really good topic, so thanks all for contributing to it.

I bought my ASN8 Deluxe mobo beginning of february. And stumbled on this website a few days before I actually got the mobo.
At first I wasnt very happy about all the problems that was posted. But I gave it a shoot and followed Sanders FAQ and everything installed right away.
Since then I havnt had any problems and just went back here for a couple of days ago and saw a new bios has been released. So here I am. Also saw page 16 which I have desided to try out to max out my performance.

However, the memory settings is really confusing me and I am wondering if someone could help me with it.
I have
DDRAM 1GB TWINX1024-3200C2PT COR RT and wondering what my DRAM settings should be in the bios.
I see alot of 2-2-2-5 etc.

Asus K8N-E deluxe
FX-53 (939)
6800GT 256mb
WD Raptor 74 x1
1GB Corsair (2x512 TWINX1024-3200C2PT COR RT )

Thanks in advance.


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Whizzz AKA: SLI Scientist@Work Mar 03, 2005, 09:20pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Asus A8N-SLI FAQ
Angry Cookieman

My guide was intended for 6800's, I never had results from 6600's, but I'm getting some in now. I will modify
the guide when I have a little more data.

The question I have is, I can't leave the 2d settings low because some things apparently use the 2d speeds.
Like aquamark 03, at default speeds I get around 38000, but if I clock my 2d the same as the default 3d settings, 500-1000, it gets in the 50s. Is there a fix for this, and is it allright to run the card like this?

>>>The detect optimal frequencies will set the 3D GPU and Memory Clocks and move the memory clock in 2D. I've learned that the 6600 GPU clocks are less in the 2D section, so what I would do for now is set the
same incremental value on both GPU cores using the 3D as the guide. Once you move the 2D you will be prompted to test the settings, continue to do this till you get the no go message and reduce a little at that point. This will be the optimal + limit that your 2D can go. If you experience corruption reduce the 2D and or 3D as needed. These settings are optimal and need to be tested, if they are too high, you will get an error message asking you to reduce. No danger!

Mike :)

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Edited: Mar 03, 2005, 09:38pm EST

 
>> Re: Asus A8N-SLI FAQ
Kevin Mayer

Watercool your drives, can't beat that. Hell if you can afford the equipment you have why not go completely watercooled. You will have 3 fans on the EXOS, not loud, I have one and the power supply fans. Maybe one fan in front and back.

http://www.koolance.com/shop/product_info.php?products_id=177

Mike :)

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Hi Mike,

Thanks for your input. I know nothing about watercooling except that voodoo and a few others do it. I'm wondering if it might make more sense to do something less "drastic" and then if that doesn't work, go to water cooling. Thoughts?

Kevin

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Edited: Mar 03, 2005, 10:35pm EST

 
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Hi guys! I'm back, and so is my problem.

Here's the recap from page 28:
Problem: Instability in 3d applications. BSOD giving me the following message:
Display device driver got stuck in an infinite loop. Usually this indicates a problem with the device itself or with the device driver programming hardware incorrectly.
I've gotten this in SLI and single card operation. I also got a BSOD that included:
PAGE_FAULT_IN_NONPAGED_AREA. It also mentioned nv4_disp.dll, which is the same .dll mentioned in the first BSOD I described.

Specs:
Antec TruePower550 EPS12v (modded per FAQ)
A8N-SLI Deluxe (1003 and 1004 BIOS tried)
Zalman passive chipset cooler
Athlon 64 3500+
Zalman 7000 cooler
Corsair Twinx1024-3200C2
(2) BFG 6800 GTs
No sound
(2) Seagate 160Gb SATA drives
(1) WD 40Gb Ultra IDE drive
LG GSA-4163B Multi DVD/CD writer (IDE)
Sony? DVD-ROM (can't remember make) (IDE)

I followed the FAQ to the letter, except for specifying my memory timings (T1, 2.5, 3, 3, 6, 2.75v). I have previously tried a pair of MSI 6800s (non GT or Ultra), and one BFG 6600 GT. I have constantly encountered application lockups, CTDs, and reboots with all of them while in graphically intense 3d applications - mainly 3dMark03, 3dMark05. Of course, this was all before using the FAQ and these were all in WinXP SP1. When I followed the FAQ and used SP2, I got the BSODs listed above in addition to the other problems.

I'm at my wit's end. I've been trying to get this machine running stable for more than 5 weeks now. For the first time today I thought, "Maybe I should just suffer the (considerable) restocking fees and return it all to go back to my 9800 Pro, Epox 8KHA+, and AthlonXP 2600+." After seeing what this combo is capable of though, it would be hell to go back.
<end of previous post>

Based upon Sander's recommendation, I tried several things which lead me to discover that my memory wasn't seated correctly. After reseating my memory, the system was significantly more stable. I thought everything was great, but now I'm getting more errors. Every once in a while I'll get a BSOD (not only in 3d apps this time), or a reboot (in a 3d app). When the system reboots and Windows reports the error, it takes me to this web page: http://oca.microsoft.com/en/response.aspx?SGD=476df00a-30ea-40...amp;SID=10 If you follow the link, it takes me to this one: http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=322205

I've done the boot.ini fix to take care of the IRQ_blah_blah_blah message, and that did help somewhat.

Any suggestions? FWIW, 3dMark03 and 05 both run fine as well as Prime95, memtest, and MS Memory Diag. all work fine normally. I can't reliably reproduce the errors.

Drakan Mar 04, 2005, 12:28am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Asus A8N-SLI FAQ
Blade Or ...

Mike has answered your question already. Slot 2 works ... providing you disable the SIL3114 RAID controller in the BIOS.

Re: Cases ...

Sander and Mike have made several valid suggestions about cases ... I don't use any of them. My case is a Lian-Li V1200 (the one that mounts the motherboard upside down) with the Lian-Li 5.25/3.5 HD adapter. However, my case, like their suggested cases, also runs two 120mm cooling fans in addition to the PSU fan and the 80mm fan in the HD adapter..

Re: 3DMark05 scores.

Just ran my first test on a completely stock box with no changes to the 3DMark05 options. I loaded the application and ran it. Resultant score was 8352. Don't know whether that's good or bad ... :)

Hope this helps ...


Whizzz AKA: SLI Scientist@Work Mar 04, 2005, 12:53am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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MIke Freeman,

I see alot of 2-2-2-5 etc.

>>>What are your settings now?
>>>Can you run at these timings without any stability issues
>>>There are many factors that allow some to run at 2-2-2-5 and others not, most of which has been discussed in previous posts.
>>>The lower the latencies the better, if you can set them low.

Mike :)

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>> Re: Asus A8N-SLI FAQ
Mike Yi,

I'm at my wit's end. I've been trying to get this machine running stable for more than 5 weeks now.


If I help you it's to the end.
And you will not debate with me ok? My time is better served when there are no debates.
mikethellend@hotmail.com MSN MESSENGER set up as contact.

PS: I dont get paid for this, and it will take lots of time.6 or 7 hours.

Mike :)


Paul Bennett Mar 04, 2005, 01:15am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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my goodness this is an incredible resource, thank you for this forum....and this 'mike' guy too...WOW.

i am building my first computer and using this sli board...i am very illiterate as to computer stuff but have read this faq for over a week now, frankly i am exhausted....anyway if someone could help....

here is my set up:

AMD 64 3000
sli mobo ( duh )
2 X 160 seagate barracuda HD
MSI NX 6600 GT ( only 1 )
Corsair low latency XMS dual memory kit ( 2 X 512 )
Pioneer DVD multi burner ( 16X16 )
Neo Power 480
generic or sony floppy drive

some probs i have:

i managed to flash the bios to 1004 but i could not do it with my floppy...i had to burn it to a cd and then it would flash....also a floppy boot diskette will not let me boot into DOS

i can get into bios anytime to adjust settings, no prob there, no memory messages, no beeps...BUT

it seems like my floppy does not work ( lite comes on etc ) but cannot flash or boot with it
also, i get a "boot disk error - please insert system disk - press enter
when i do this the same message just comes up...

also when i insert my windows xp cd the same message comes up

right now i just have 1 HD connected, the video card in, the floppy attached and the dvd Pioneer burner attached

also somehow a day ago i managed to get into "free DOS" i have no idea how, but then i created a parition in that boot menu and it said "max size was 2042 ( or thereabouts, in the 2000 mb range ) even though i have a 160 gig HD...did i screw something up there....? i don't have any raid stuff enabled, and i set my settings in the BIOS like Mike said...

since i am new maybe i have some cables wrong that came with neo power? for instance, i took one of the modular Molex leads, and it has 3 power points on it, i connected first power plug to 1 HD, 2nd plug to 2nd HD and 3rd plug to floppy drive..i think the cords are ok...my graphics card does not need a power plug connection ( I am pretty sure )....in the neo power 480 box, is a PCI-E cable but i dont think i need that for 1 video card ( i am not doing sli right now..)

WHY DO I GET THIS BOOT DISK ERROR INSERT SYSTEM DISK PRESS ENTER ERROR?

also i get the case open warning but i disabled that alert

thank you so MUCH for any ideas....sorry if this is answered somewhere else, but i read it and did not see this stuff exactly although i am EXHAUSTED...

( oh also i tried to get windows xp to boot with FOUR different cd and dvd drives i have around, same message with all of em....now i just have 1 HD plugged into SATA port 2 on the mobo...

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>> Re: Asus A8N-SLI FAQ
Paul Bennett

>>>Most of your problems are settings in the BIOS, wiring, and possibly reversed wiring on the floppy.
>>>Do you have the Deluxe or Standard motherboard?

Mike :)

PS: I'm retiring for the evening, this will have to wait till tomorrow.
mikethellend@hotmail.com MSN Messenger setup as contact, because I want to avoid the basic startup issues in the forum. Have some close-up pics of the inside of your box ready.

I used the word BASIC as this is basic to me, also for the fact that BIOS has been covered somewhat in depth in this forum and I didn't want to be repetitive.

Thanks

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thank you mike, i cannot seem to connect to messenger right now, will add you tomorrow...

somehow i don't think this is basic stuff....i have switched cables used different ones, bought new ones...made sure they were seated tight etc...i might be off in the neopower psu, i really don't think so but could be, it is modular so you only use the cables you need...although each molex lead has 3 power plugs off of it....

just went through it again and enabled 'floppy boot seek' in teh bios, then it tells me i do not have 80 connector on IDE 0 - odd so i went back in and disabled it like you said in your set up guide....i am using the asus ribbon cables that came with mobo although i have tried rounded ones too....also i put my old windows xp disk in and i will be darned i don't get that disk boot error message that i had been getting with OR without disks in the drives....i shut it down after it started loading the windows cd since i cannot install that same copy on a new computer, but that is darn strange.....re tried hooking up cd rom, dvd rom, plextor burner etc....it only seems to let me go further with the old windows xp cd that i used to set up this old computer i am using....odd....don't know what else i can tell you.....it sees my pioneer dvd burner, the floppy drive ( i guess, it just says "legacy" floppy drive in bios ) but it sees the exact brand of my burner drive, and it sees my seagate HD ( exactly, by name )....have tried taking the little battery out and setting jumpers over to pin 2 and 3 for a second and then putting jumpers back and rebooting, still get the disk boot error, have checked and re checked, no disk is in any drive and it still gives me that error.....checked and re checked boot order, tried every which combo i could think of....also googled 'disk boot error' and for another asus mobo someone posted that this was a prob with promise controller and was fixed with bios rev. for this other mobo ( i forget which, i think it was A7 something or other...) like i said i am pretty new well brand new at building one....lol, anyway if you get a sec and think of something i am game to try it....

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>> Re: chipset fan
Hello everybody,
I just wanted to ask if anyone else replaced the stock HSF combo, which is awfully noisy, with a passive heatsink.
I used an old A7N8X heatsink and I applied some Artic Silver Ceramique as thermal compound.
The system is running stable and the temperatures look good, but I don't know if an active HSF is necessary for this chipset.
Are there any nForce 4 mainboards that feature a passive HS?
One thing is for sure: I didn't ever have a rig as noiseless as this one.
Best regards.

Simon Voigt Mar 04, 2005, 04:23am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Asus A8N-SLI FAQ (with Antec Truepower 480)

Has anyone tested the Antec Truepower 480 watt with this motherboard? Apart from requiring an adaptor to go from r20 to 24 pin, Is everything else ok with this psu? Will the power be sufficient for 4 sata drives, a sony dvd recorder, a 3800 cpu, 2 geforce6800gt's, and a wireless card?

Cheers
Simon

Dave Ballantyne Mar 04, 2005, 04:31am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Simon Lu,

BIOS seems fine, ive never had a BSOD just freezes. Hopefully it will sort that out. Ive just left it running memtest overnight , no errors so far

Dave

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"I just wanted to ask if anyone else replaced the stock HSF combo, which is awfully noisy, with a passive heatsink"

Yes I did. I replaced all the fans - the CPU fan, the motherboard fan. And I bought a passive video card. The stock AMD fan was replaced with a Thermaltake Cooler Fanless 103... it looks like this:

http://www.thermaltake.com/coolers/cl-p0019Fanless103/cl-p0019...ess103.htm

The CPU is a Winchester 3200+. Even overclocked to 3500+ (=2.2 GHz), the heatsink barely reaches 50 degrees C. So I can recommend this heatsink for all of you, but make sure that you have a case fan to ensure some airflow through the case.
I have a passive cooler on the CPU, passively cooled Gigabyte 6600GT and a passively cooled A8N-SLI. Here, I use the Zalman NB47J, which is officially approved for the A8N-SLI:

http://tienda.baluma.com/images/productos/modding/zalman_nb47j.jpg

My case has two large, slow case fans and it seems more than enough.

This is how my system looks like:
http://homepage.hispeed.ch/velociraptor/antec.jpg


Hope it helps,
Andillo

Ben Smith Mar 04, 2005, 06:53am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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The problems with the A8N-SLI are addressed in the official Bios 1004, I work for a PC company and we have had success with this but after updating you need to adjust your memory timings as the auto setting can cause instability with your PC and SLI

We Use Tagan 480 Watt PSUs and have had no problems with lack of power from these

System Spec:

Silverstone Case
A8N-SLI (Deluxe)
1 x 300 Gig Western Digital SATA
2 x 74 Gig Raptors (Raided NVRaid)
2 x XFX PCI ex 6800Ultras
DVDRW+/- Plextor 716A
1 Gig Corsair DDR400 Ram
Creative Audigy 2 LS

No Power issues as the Tagan kicks out enough power

Aleq Skanky Mar 04, 2005, 08:39am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Asus A8N-SLI VIDEO POST PROBLEMS **ONGOING**
Help!

I really need some ideas on how to fix this post problem
Am willing to do any diags required, if you need a challenge this for you.
Here is the mess so far...

First hardware config:
Antec 350W PSU
ASUS A8N SLI DELUXE BIOS 1002
1 GB Corsair XMS 3200 TWINX RAM (2 x 512) 2.2.2.5
AMD 3500+ CPU
S3 PCI SVGA test card (works in everything I stick it into)

Installation:
Motherboard installed into case
Set EZ selector to single (was set to dual)
Mounted CPU and Heatsink
Installed two DIMMs in slots 1 & 3
Installed S3 PCI SVGA test card
(I use this to test the system before I committed to 2 PCIE cards)

Fault diagnosis:
Stable for a day then daily would hang in the operating system
when I slide windows or minimize etc.
Temp settings checked and the whole box was running cold.
End of the first week after one such hang got a post error
** Long-Short-Short ***
I understand it as a basic video post failure
If I left the system it would complete post and boot operating system (could see from HDD activity)
Reseated/Changed slots/Reset CMOS/Ran minimum H/W - no change
Removed card and confirmed its operation
100% okay in another motherboard
Insert another known working PCI SVGA card in all slots - no change

Suspected PCI bus failure
Decided the odds are that a PCIE card would still post so I tested a spare Nvidia 6600 PCIE
that I had access to and it posted fine in the PCIE slot.
Decided I seriously need to test the PCIE bus out and am wondering if I have a mobo problem.
Installed ABIT RX300SE GURU stable on the desktop but during video rendering caused occasional
reboots
At the time I considered it drivers and software problem (occurred sorta daily)
I decided to hold off with an bios update until I had confirmed the source as the firmware wouldn't
degrade over time.

Approx a week later same post fault
Reseated Card, CPU, RAM, EZ selector, Reset CMOs/Ran minimum H/W
I believe the CPU and RAM to be reliable as it booted into the OS without video
** This time no more video post no matter what I try. **

So at this stage I guess the motherboard seems to be afflicted with a PCIE/PCI BUS or a very weird firmware problem. I had sorta perfect crashy video but now I have lost everything.
When this fault occurs it does not send a standby signal to the monitor therefore it says cable unplugged.
I even did a blind bios settings restore and serveral long wait clear cmos attempts.

Tested on a ANTEC TRUEPOWER 550W EPS PSU
No change nothing I have will make it post video.

Got an RMA for the mobo

New hardware config:
Antec 550W TRUEPOWER EPS PSU
ASUS A8N SLI DELUXE BIOS 1002 (fresh out of the box)
1 GB Corsair XMS 3200 TWINX RAM (2 x 512) 2.2.2.5
AMD 3500+ CPU (regreased)
ABIT RX300SE GURU VIDEO

Set it up as before plug PCIE video card in ** Long-Short-Short ** HUH???
Figured I'm seriously overlooking something here
PCI Video test card into slot next to the PCIE slots POSTS VIDEO!
Okay I had a working machine for a few weeks an now I'm worse than where I started the first time
Discover the PCI slots post video intermittent this time.

Okay and this is damn spooky
Entered the BIOS and found the CORRECT DATE and the time 2 HOURS BEHIND HMMMM
I have not even issued a time command to this mobo yet or changed the time and date!

Followed the BIOS Guide by Sander Sassen no change
Update to BIOS 1004 and after a couple of reboots I installed the PCIE card and get:
** Long-Short-Short ** and this nice new one ** Double-Short-Short-Short-Short ** follows

No PCIE video post, PCI sorta working.

Any takers?

Aleq

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well my bios flashed ok ( i think ) using the dvd rom i burned, but it shows up as rev 1.004 when system first boots....i bought a new keyboard ( i had been using logitech with that stupid f lock button problem ) and just bought a basic microsoft keyboard, no wireless just basic....now when computer boots up today i get that message i got yesterday " non 80 wire on IDE channel 0......is IDE channel 0 the Pioneer multiburner drive? i would assume....maybe that means the floppy drive....i have CAREFULLY checked the floppy drive socket on mobo, and cable is plugged in correctly for floppy....the end wiht the 'twist' is at the floppy drive side and the 1 SATA HD i have plugged in shows up as master 1.......i think this "non 80 wire on IDE channel 0 is key here but if it doesn't like the cable why does it show up in bios as exactly that burner? however, like mike said i have it set to auto in that part, and it does not show any thing in the fields for the heads....on my SATA HD it is set to auto and it does show fields for the heads or sectors or something..there are numbers in there for my HD but not for my DVD multiburner...maybe i should try "cable select?" i am going to best buy right now to see if i can get a "80 pin connector" cable that the burner and the mobo both like....cheapo pioneer did not put a cable in the box.....dang.....long day ahead ..... *SIGH *


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