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Whizzz AKA: SLI Scientist@Work Mar 04, 2005, 02:45pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Asus A8N-SLI FAQ
PETER PALAITIS

Just use the newer ones, it doesn't really matter. Your main goal at this point is to get the drivers installed, new or old to install your OS.

Mike

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Paul Bennett Mar 04, 2005, 03:42pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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thank you SO MUCH mike for responding....had a lot of reg. work to do today ( non computer real world work lol ) i did buy a couple of cables that specifically said "80" wire on them ( floppy and ide ) they were cheap and i did not see your message before i left....i will try and change memory settings although i will have to learn how to do this ( i will research it and get r done )....you are prolly right, ide floppy drive is not right, like i said i could flash with a cd i burned and put in pioneer drive, but cannot do it with a floppy disk so maybe it is just this floppy drive....i bought another floppy drive today cuz they too are cheap...$5 at fry's lol....i doubt it will help but hey it is worth $5 to try....thanks again, Mike i will start on this stuff later this afternoon and evening....gonna be a loooooong nite ( for me anyway lol )......

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Just a note:

I sold my Corsair Twinx 2048 PC3200 C2 PL today, at a loss of $200 CAD.
The money I made on the sale $400 is being applied to my G.Skill and I have a little left. Found out today it wont be here till late next week as the US customs think it's a detonator for a nuclear bomb. Apparently they mistakened G.Skill for G.kill. lol

I got loaner RAM from the friend I sold it too as he works for a computer retailer here in Canada.
I received;
1 X OCZ PC 2700 DDR 166 MHz 256 MB
1 X Geil PC 3500 DDR 433 MHz 256 MB

With different timings as well. I set Dual channel (A1) (B1) and RAM to 333 MHz 2.5 5 5 7 1T and they work fine and have been all day without any errors or BSOD's etc...

I overclocked to 3300 MHz M of 13X and FSB 246 MHz. A good sign that the G.Skill will increase performance on the FSB and CPU, as I mentioned before, I could not get past 215 MHz with the corsair, what a waste.

I guess this shoots the whole matched pair theory right out the door.!!!

PS: I would like to add that I am in the process of writing a step by step ebook full of things you couldn't even imagine on OS's, Hardware, Settings, the how to's, power, testing and much more on SLI, titled,
"Satan Lives Inside" The Scalable Link Interface Nightmare Resovled (by Mike Thellend (Copyright 2005))
I will post the free ebook (pdf with pictures) as soon as I complete it. (Seriously)

Mike :)

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Great news.After half a month the freeze and the reboot in 3D aplications came back.After a fresh install of windows i notice something strange.If i reboot 3-4 times and go to the NVidia display panel it recognize my Gigabyte 6600GT as PCI-E x2 even with a single card.When it recognize it as PCI-E x16 then the system freeze and reboots.I flashed to the latest BETA Bios and nothing happened the problem stays.
Any ideas?

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Athanasios Karageorgiou

Great news! More problems for me to help with. lol

One thing though, I wish you wouldn't have reformatted just because of that, it's easier to repair on the onset of the problem.

Do you have PCI EX on in the BIOS?
What are your RAM timings right now?
Do you have other PCI cards in slots?
Do you have Coolbits installed?
What drivers are you using for video?

Just some questions I need to know.

Mike :)

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Well, at least for me, it's official, the Enermax Noisetaker 600W SLI is a success.

Asus A8N-SLI Deluxe
Koolance PC3-720SL (Watercooled Case)
Enermax Noisetaker 600W EG701AX-VE SFMA 2.0 SLI
AMD Athlon 64 FX-53 (939)
1GB Corsair TwinX PC4400CP25 (I just dumped a gig)
2 ~ XFX Geforce Ultra PCIe (SLi)
2x Seagate Barracuda 7200.7 SATA 160GBs in Raid 0 off Sil. Raid Controller
1x Seagate Barracuda 7200.7 SATA 120 GB SATA 1.5Gb/s 7200 RPM (Sil)
Creative Labs Audigy 2 ZS
D-Link DWL-G520 Wireless PCI Card
Creative Gigaworks S750 THX 7.1 Surround Sound System 700Watts


ROCK SOLID, No probs in 3dMark 03 or 05, Aquamark, FarCry, HL2, Doom 3, etc. still preliminary, but NO ERRORS as of yet with about 5 hours of solid game play and benching.

Lancer VI

Joseph Ringling Mar 04, 2005, 08:13pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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I just bought an A8N-SLI (not the Deluxe) mobo and I'm had some problems installing Windows XP sp2 on an NTFS formatted Maxtor, 250 GB/16MB cache HDD.

Any known issues with the 1001 bios for this mobo? Below is my config:
Antec Lanboy Chassis (large dual fans)
Realtek nVidia PX6800 256MB PCI Express (sli compatible)
A8N-SLI (base model, not the deluxe)
AMD 3000+ Winchester with heatsink/fan
Corsair DDR 1GB stick
Maxtor Ultra16 250GB 7200rpm
Mad Dog 500W BTX PSU
Windows XP SP2 (OEM CD shipped from Newegg)

1. I fired it up & viewed the bios...the machine ran quiet & smooth
2. I then formatted the Maxtor HDD (NTFS...two partitions). Partition 1 = 40GB, Partition 2 = 210 GB. No problems.
3. Installed Windows XP SP2 and got an error about 90% into the install before it crapped out and the machine rebooted itself. I proceeded to attempt to install XP SP2 a few more times and it finally completed. However, I am experiencing the following behavior:

-After logging in I get an system error about 75% of the time.
-If I attempt to run a game the machine is really edgy and wants to reboot itself, thus it seems to be rather unstable.
-After trying to install the chipset drivers from the Asus support CD the installshield executable fails and thus I cannot install the drivers for all the devices. I manually installed them using the Hardware Device Manager and that helped. The OS and all devices are running and it allows you to log-in and you can perform basic operations. However, I get the same flaky behavior...machine wants to reboot whenever it wants if I am using an application.

Questions:

1. How stable is the A8N-SLI with the new Maxtor 250GB PATA HDD's? Was anyone able to workaround this flaky rebooting behavior?

2. Has anyone had problem installing the chipset drivers from the Asus support CD? It appears to be related to installshield exutables. Some install, some don't. I was able to install about 80% of the drivers, but the others would not execute. I downloaded the latest nVidia nForce4 mobo drivers...it won't execute either...so I manually moved the .inf driver files into place using the Hardware Device Manager.

Any and all comments are welcomed :)

Cheers,

Joe

PS Asus has not responded...I suspect they are swamped with calls for this and related issues. I'll give it a week or two of tweaking...then the motherboard's going back.

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Good to hear adout the Enermax

I am building my rig this weekend with a very simular set up and kit
As yours is stable can you tell me did you follow the set as page 1 of this forum? or did you do things in a different order etc. or is there any wise words you can offer

What Video drivers are you using. Was setting up the raid tricky

Any help would be good

Asus A8N-SLI/Deluxe
Athlon 64 FX55
ENERMAX 600W EG701AX-VE(W) 24P dual SLi PSU
Mitsumi 7-in-1 Floppy Drive
Corsair 1GB DDR XMS3200C2PT TwinX (2x512MB)
Zalman CNPS7700-ALCU Ultra-Quiet CPU Cooler
2 x 160 GB Seagate Barracuda SATA 7200rpm 8MB cache HDD with NCQ
1 x 200 GB Seagate Barracuda SATA 7200rpm 8MB cache
2 x LG GSA-4163BAL Black DVD
Thermaltake Tsunami Case

Gary Thomas Mar 04, 2005, 08:30pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Hi Mike,

As always your knowledge is insightful, helpful, and courteous to ALL!!! Many thanks for all your posts that have paved the way for stable usable SLI systems everywhere!

I would like to point out a couple of things as I am fortunate to have had a very straight forward setup of this system thanks to Mike, again.

For those that are considering an SLI system I would advise the following, take seriously the recommended components listed on this thread. For example, the PSU I have, the PC Power & Cooling 510 SLI and there are other good supplies, but go with this or one that is rated for the FX-55/Dual 6800 Ultra configuration. Even if your not starting out with this CPU and video card combo you will have a cushion within your PSU for these components if you choose to upgrade later, its cheaper to buy a high quality PSU upfront than to buy something now that cost less and pay twice when it fails or when you want to upgrade later and have to buy a PSU that can handle the required load.

I went with a single 74GB Raptor, I don't have a need to store the Library of Congress like many of you have and its a proven fast drive. I would have liked to go with the Maxtor Diamond Max 10 250gb with 16mb cache, not because I need the space, but because many of the benchmarks equaled or surpassed the Raptor for about the same money with 4x the storage, but with the incompatibilites with this MOBO, I passed, but I did see in the last few days on this thread that someone got this drive to be recognized with this mobo.

Go to the Asus site and buy the RAM that's on their approved list. I went with two sticks of Kingston Value PC3200 (2x512) its supposedly can be oc'd from some of the reviews on Newegg and it seems to perform well. http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=20-1...amp;depa=0

I went with a Samsung DVD-ROM 16x Drive TS-H352A IDE because again it works well and according to what I read was easily recognized by XP. http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=27-1...amp;depa=0 Then i chose a NEC 3520A 16x DVD/RW for the same reasons. I would have considered a SATA drive, but through this thread there were incompatibilites and so I went with IDE.

The Zalman CNPS-7700CU CPU Fan has been a good choice and keeps the 3500+ 90nm chip cool. I used the MGE Titanium case with 5 fans, and my wife's comment was its a little loud, but its white noise." Which was a pretty favorable comment. lol

This all equated to a very straight forward install with everything being recognized in the BIOS the first time around. I also used a new legal copy of XP w/SP2 OEM (full copy) and it installed w/o a hitch and of course there were few SP2 updates to download.

So I have been fortunate with few issues other than the following:

I used Norton System Works and Webroot Spysweeper both new and sealed. Spyweeper was a boxed copy version 3.2 installed fine and I was prompted by webroot to register and then I could update to 3.5 all I would have to do is uninstall and download 3.5, upon reboot Norton AV was knocked out and couldn't be fixed and Norton System Works which has Norton Utilities as well so modified the registry that I couldn't do a system restore so a full NTFS format was necessary. So Norton is in the trash and Webroot is refunding me. My only other caution is with the Asus NI Booster, in the 'read me' notes it explains that if you overclock and your system locks up that you can reboot in Safe Mode and restore the default setting so I overclocked at 110% it was fine on the desktop as soon as I tried to play Lock On: Modern Air Combat, it locked up and I couldn't even get into safe mode, and Mike came to the rescue with explaining how to remove the mobo battery and reinstall entering the bios and reset the parameters and then I was back in business. It was more than a little scary looking at a screen full of code. So those were my two harrowing experiences the first a poor choice and the second; a stupid poor choice. It was fun, fun, fun, till my timings took my computer away (it wasn't funny at the time). I'm not ready to run with the big dogs when it comes to OCing.

So my advice is to listen to Mike Thellend he knows what he's talking about and he's not arrogant about it either, in my opinion Asus should cut him a check for all the help he has been for this mobo and the money he has saved them for avoiding costly RMAs from many of us had he not been available to help. Many thanks to Sander as well for his testing and advice.


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Hi Joseph,

I would suggest you google "A8n-SLI Maxtor Diamond 10" there is a thread I think it was at Anandtech about this drive and how it will not work with this mobo especially with NCQ enabled. According to the thread it is something that Maxtor and Asus know about and Asus is trying to address this, but see if you can find the thread, the bottom line is this mobo doesn't like NCQ. Hopefully Asus/Maxtor will get this resolved.

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Hi guys,

Didn't get any relevant replies so this is a repost.

I just purchased a Tagan 480W power supply thinking that there was only one model and it was the Tagan TG480-U01, after looking at it again after buying I then found out that it was actually the Tagan TG480-W01 model which has DUAL 12v rail at 20amps each.

This is the only model available in Australia. After looking at Tagan website, this product is not even available international besides Australia and New Zealand.

Could someone please inform me whether this Power Supply would perform well with A8N-SLI-Deluxe. Any downsides to the dual rail? I've looked at all the other brands that have dual rails (including Enermax Noisetaker 600 which has 18amp on each) and this model has the highest amp reading of 20amps on each rail.

Help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks


Asus A8N-SLI Deluxe
Amd Athlon64 3200+
Corsair TwinX 1024 3200XL
Asus EN600GT (Single Only)
At the moment, Tagan TG480-W01 (Note W Model, DUAL 12V rail @ 20amp each)

Asus A8N-SLI Deluxe
Amd Athlon64 3200+ (Standard Supplied CPU Fan atm)
Asus EN6600GT (Single Only)
Corsair 1024 TwinX 3200XL
Tagan 600W Power Supply (TG6068-W01)
Seagate Barracuda ATA 80gb (ST380021A)
Seagate U8 17.2gb (ST317221A)
LG 16x DVD-Burner
asylum asylum Mar 04, 2005, 09:32pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Quick question about the LAN controllers on this board. What is the difference between the NVidia lan controller and the Marvell controller? Is there an advantage to one versus the other?

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Joseh Ringling

I just bought an A8N-SLI (not the Deluxe) mobo and I'm had some problems installing Windows XP sp2 on an NTFS
formatted Maxtor, 250 GB/16MB cache HDD.
>>>Is your windows XP cd SP2 Slipstreamed, OEM, or home made?

Any known issues with the 1001 bios for this mobo? Below is my config:
>>>Nothing out of the ordinary, if you know what I mean. I guess what I'm trying to say is that you can, get your system stable.

Antec Lanboy Chassis (large dual fans)
Realtek nVidia PX6800 256MB PCI Express (sli compatible)
A8N-SLI (base model, not the deluxe)
AMD 3000+ Winchester with heatsink/fan
Corsair DDR 1GB stick
Maxtor Ultra16 250GB 7200rpm
Mad Dog 500W BTX PSU
Windows XP SP2 (OEM CD shipped from Newegg)

1. I fired it up & viewed the bios...the machine ran quiet & smooth
2. I then formatted the Maxtor HDD (NTFS...two partitions). Partition 1 = 40GB, Partition 2 = 210 GB. No problems.
3. Installed Windows XP SP2 and got an error about 90% into the install before it crapped out and the machine
rebooted itself.
>>>Manually set your memory timings to 3-3-3-8-2T
>>>No OC whatsoever.

I proceeded to attempt to install XP SP2 a few more times and it finally completed. However,
I am experiencing the following behavior:

-After logging in I get an system error about 75% of the time.
>>>What is the error?

-If I attempt to run a game the machine is really edgy and wants to reboot itself, thus it seems to be rather
unstable.
-After trying to install the chipset drivers from the Asus support CD the installshield executable fails and
thus I cannot install the drivers for all the devices. I manually installed them using the Hardware Device
Manager and that helped. The OS and all devices are running and it allows you to log-in and you can perform basic
operations. However, I get the same flaky behavior...machine wants to reboot whenever it wants if I am using an application.
>>>Memory timings and video card adjustments. No OC whatsoever.
>>>Launching an executible consumes system resources, the larger the file the more resources, even video. I'm certain your system is unstable as a result of this problem.

Questions:

1. How stable is the A8N-SLI with the new Maxtor 250GB PATA HDD's? Was anyone able to workaround this flaky
rebooting behavior?
>>>There are many more reasons that can be attributed to this problem, I wouldn't put any blame on the drive yet.

2. Has anyone had problem installing the chipset drivers from the Asus support CD? It appears to be related
to installshield exutables. Some install, some don't. I was able to install about 80% of the drivers, but the
others would not execute. I downloaded the latest nVidia nForce4 mobo drivers...it won't execute either...so
I manually moved the .inf driver files into place using the Hardware Device Manager.
>>>Memory timings and video card adjustments. No OC whatsoever.
>>>Launching an executible consumes system resources, the larger the file the more resources, even video. I'm certain your system is unstable as a result of this problem.

Any and all comments are welcomed
>>>These are my comments, take them for what they are worth.

Cheers,

Joe

PS Asus has not responded...I suspect they are swamped with calls for this and related issues. I'll give it a
week or two of tweaking...then the motherboard's going back.
>>>I can get you stable in less time than that.

Mike :)

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Peter Wong

This power supply is ok to use regardless of the fact you're not running SLI cards etc...

You need to seperate the loads on the PSU.

Please give me a complete inventory of your devices within the tower.
Drives, DVD, Exotic fans etc... With all electrical characteristics of the products and I will seperate the connectors to provide the proper mathematically calculated load balancing required on each rail under idle and active states.

Mike :)

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asylum asylum,

Sander Sassen Jan 31, 2005, 11:49 AM Message - Profile - Add Buddy - Alert Moderators

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1. I am going with the Thermaltake W0049-RUD Silent PurePower 680W Power Supply ATX. Any problems?

Haven't tested that PSU, but I'd guess that should be sufficient

2. Why are you using the NVidia NIC, why not the Marvell that has MS driver certification?

NVIDIA NIC runs off of the chipset directly, not off of the PCI bus, also one less 3rd party driver and IRQ to use.

3. Why are you not using the Silicon RAID controller vs. nvidia?

Same reason as the NVIDIA NIC.

4. Why 2.7v for Memory, when RAM GUY states 2.8v?

Depends on your memory, 2.7...2.8v is a safe range. Higher voltages allow higher clockspeeds. But I wouldn't start overclocking until I'm 100% confident the system is stable, then you can try taking it up a notch.


Sander Sassen
CEO, Founder - Hardware Analysis
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Mike :)


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Joseph Ringling,

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I also wanted to add to the FAQ that Maxtor Diamond Max 9 SATA drives will not work on the Asus SATA ports. I had to go to Best Buy and bought a Diamond Max 10 and it works perfectly.

Mike :)



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>> Asus A8N-SLI VIDEO POST PROBLEMS **ONGOING**
Mike Thellend

>>>Set to Advanced/Normal
>>>PCI Clock Synch Mode/To CPU
>>>Set RAM timings manually to 3-3-3-8 2T DDR 400 MHz
>>>All Auto in CPU config

I tried a few different settings none seemed to make a difference so I fired up a spare
Kingmax 512MB 400 3200 DIMM in B1 and still get my original problem
** Long-Short-Short ** posting with a PCIE Abit 300SE GURU video card
The PCI video card posting is somewhat still intermittent but most of the time I can get it fired up.

The Kingmax ram as far as I'm aware is low performance so the Auto setting should work
but if you could advise what settings are what I can try slowest to fastest

I'm going to take my rig into work and butcher parts till I can get a PCIE post
just with this Corsair TWINX 2-2-2-5 or any ram for that matter I'd expect it

I'm thinking I have a memory to BUS problem or a compat problem
since PCIE is a total no show at the moment it seems at least getting that going will be an
acheivement. Strange as it is on my first ASUS A8N SLI DELUXE I got video as soon as I plugged
that PCIE card in. It only stopped after a week for good with the no video post.

Mike is there a forum message on what BIOS setting relates to what ram speed settings?
e.g. what would 2-3-4-5 equate to in the bios setting which ones?
I want to make absolute sure I'm setting the correct options that you advised previous
3-3-3-8 2T 400

Cheers

Aleq

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Quick question on the chipset driver install (Nvidia 6.39) -- do you install the whole package? The options are:
SMBus
Ethernet
IDE
Audio

..and all are checked by default. My main question is on the audio drivers? I thought this board had Realtek audio.. so should these NVidia audio drivers be installed? Thx again..

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PC-3200 2048MB CORSAIR TWINX 184-PIN DDR SDRAM CL2 (2X1024MB STICKS)
2-3-3-6 running @ DDR400Mhz PC3200

has anyone tested this memory with the a8n-sli-deluxe motherboard?

is it stable at the listed timings?


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Simon Voigt

I have the exact same RAM

2.5-3-3-6 1T

Mike :)


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