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Simon Voigt Mar 04, 2005, 11:43pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Asus A8N-SLI FAQ
Has anyone tested the Antec Truepower 480 watt with this motherboard? Apart from requiring an adaptor to go from r20 to 24 pin, Is everything else ok with this psu? Will the power be sufficient for 4 sata drives, a sony dvd recorder, a 3800 cpu, 2 geforce6800gt's, and a wireless card?

Cheers
Simon

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Whizzz AKA: SLI Scientist@Work Mar 04, 2005, 11:50pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Asus A8N-SLI FAQ
Aleq Skanky

I tried a few different settings none seemed to make a difference so I fired up a spare
Kingmax 512MB 400 3200 DIMM in B1 and still get my original problem
>>>Install one stick in A1 for now, the corsair is fine.

** Long-Short-Short ** posting with a PCIE Abit 300SE GURU video card
The PCI video card posting is somewhat still intermittent but most of the time I can get it fired up.
>>>Good sign!

I'm going to take my rig into work and butcher parts till I can get a PCIE post
just with this Corsair TWINX 2-2-2-5 or any ram for that matter I'd expect it
>>>We will get it to work, a little time and patience will help.

I'm thinking I have a memory to BUS problem or a compat problem
since PCIE is a total no show at the moment
>>>We shall see!

it seems at least getting that going will be an acheivement. Strange as it is on my first ASUS A8N SLI DELUXE I got video as soon as I plugged that PCIE card in. It only stopped after a week for good with the no video post.
>>>Did you RMA the board at this point?
>>>Remember what you were doing at that time?

Mike is there a forum message on what BIOS setting relates to what ram speed settings?
e.g. what would 2-3-4-5 equate to in the bios setting which ones?
I want to make absolute sure I'm setting the correct options that you advised previous
3-3-3-8 2T 400

BIOS>
Advanced>
CPU Configuration>
DRAM configuration>

-Max Memclock (MHz)---------------[DDR400]
-1T/2T Memory Timing----------------[ 2T ]
-CAS# latency (Tlc)--------------------[ 3 ]
-RAS# to CAS# delay (Trcd)--------[ 3 ]
-Min RAS# active time (Tras)-------[ 8 ]
-Row precharge TIme (Trp)----------[ 3 ]
-Row Cycle Time (Trc)----------------[ AUTO ]
-Row Refresh Cycle Time (Trfc)---[ AUTO ]
-Write Recovery Time (Twr)---------[ AUTO ]
-Read-to-Write Delay (Trwt)---------[ AUTO ]

Cheers

Mike :)

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Edited: Mar 05, 2005, 12:25am EST

 
>> Re: Asus A8N-SLI FAQ
PETER PALAITIS

Quick question on the chipset driver install (Nvidia 6.39) -- do you install the whole package? The options are:
SMBus
Ethernet
IDE
Audio

..and all are checked by default. My main question is on the audio drivers? I thought this board had Realtek audio.. so should these NVidia audio drivers be installed? Thx again..

>>>Yes

If you run into any problems installing, go to Add Remove Programs and click NVidia Drivers and then remove. There will be a box that will ask if you want to select removing all drivers or not, check the one that gives you the option to chose, and do not select the video drivers, remove the balance, reboot if prompted, and then install again. Do not install drivers via the windows wizard, you will be prompted to while the drivers are loading, just use the software install.

Mike :)


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Edited: Mar 05, 2005, 12:34am EST

 
>> Re: Asus A8N-SLI FAQ
Simon Voigt

Hi Simon,

I've already answered this post.

Re: Asus A8N-SLI FAQ
Has anyone tested the Antec Truepower 480 watt with this motherboard? Apart from requiring an adaptor to go from r20 to 24 pin, Is everything else ok with this psu? Will the power be sufficient for 4 sata drives, a sony dvd recorder, a 3800 cpu, 2 geforce6800gt's, and a wireless card?

Your forgetting case fans, how many?
What type of wireless card, Linksys etc...?
What brand of SATA?
Any modified fans, CPU?

I will get specs on all your components and I will need to do the math for you.
I will tell you after you give me this info.
I have a diploma in electronics, I am a licensed electrician, I build high tech power supplies and I don't need to connect one to a motherboard to know if it will work or not. All I need to do is look at the PSU specs, which I did already.

Mike :)

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Edited: Mar 05, 2005, 01:23am EST

 
>> Re: Asus A8N-SLI FAQ
Just a note;

There are about 15 people in the last three days that asked for help, 8 or so have not returned as I know there problems were fixed. I really would like for people to come and post their success stories and not just come to this forum for a quick fix and leave, people need to know about fixes. 7 or so people did post though and I am very grateful for their positive responses.

PS:In just 18 days this Topic went from 10 to 54 pages, apprx 700-800 posts.

Mike Thellend
SLI Scientist @ Work
mikethellend@hotmail.com

Joseph Ringling Mar 05, 2005, 01:28am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Asus A8N-SLI FAQ
Thanks for your feedback Mike. I read it and then reviewed Sander's initial reply (comes up in my e-mail at the top of the list). I tweaked my A8N-SLI bios settings per this initial reply and that appears to have done the trick. The bios upgrade didn't apply because the 1003 & 1004 bios do not apply to the A8N-SLI (just the deluxe).

She's running reallllllly smooooooth now.

Happy Camper :-o)

Thanks for the prompt response Mike!

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Edited: Mar 05, 2005, 01:42am EST

 
>> Re: Asus A8N-SLI FAQ
Joseph Ringling

The bios upgrade didn't apply because the 1003 & 1004 bios do not apply to the A8N-SLI (just the deluxe)

BIOS 1004 does work on the standard.

Glad to hear your stable.

PS: Would it be possible to post this reply to share with others in case someone else gets the same problems?

Mike :)

Simon Voigt Mar 05, 2005, 01:53am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Asus A8N-SLI FAQ
Thanks mike I missed your earlier reply sorry.
so far I only have 3 items
the power supply is Antec truepower 480
the case is an antec p160
and the fun fun fun motherboard

currently:
the (fan-only) molex is connected to both front and rear fans (stock)
Another molex pair is connected to the case top bezel, the front panel lights and Sony dru-700a atapi dvd writer

what else to go inside? (yet to be purchased so open to ideas on all items)
1 legacy floppy drive
1 AMD 64 3800
4 Western Digital Raptor 36.0Gb 10,000 RPM SerialATA Hard Drive, 8mb cache
1 Dlink DWL-G520+ wireless card (currently being used in my Athlon 1200)
2 Geforce 6800's (problably to be purchased separately due to cost)
PC-3200 2048MB CORSAIR TWINX 184-PIN DDR SDRAM CL2 (2X1024MB STICKS)

Maybe later a sound card with ASIO support (whatever that is (Tom Ellard from Severed Heads suggested its better for FL Studio 4))

usb devices:
HP deskjet 830c
Logictech wingman force 3d joystick

firewire:
iPod 40 gig photo

I think thats everything :)

Athanasios Karageorgiou Mar 05, 2005, 03:42am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Asus A8N-SLI FAQ
Mike PCI-E is enabled memory timings is Kingston asus certified 3-3-3-8-2T,driver version 71.90 WHQL,chipset 6.39,i have left only one of the 2 Gigabyte 6600GT,removed all the PCI cards,coolbits is not installed,temperature is very good
i really dont understand how come after half a month of stability everything comes back

Whizzz AKA: SLI Scientist@Work Mar 05, 2005, 03:45am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Edited: Mar 05, 2005, 12:04pm EST

 
>> Re: Asus A8N-SLI FAQ
Simon Voigt

Good power supply characteristics
Transient Response
+5V,+12V and 3.3V outputs return to within 3% in less than 1ms for 20% load change.
28 AMPS +12 V
38 AMPS +5V

I have you at about 336 Watts with the devices listed at full load.

338/480=70% A power supply should never exceed a demand factor of 80% on a continuous load. So if your supply is 480 W and the maximum load at any one time will be 338 W you are well within that figure.
Of course there are other calculations to take into consideration but your tower will be well ventilated, and I did add some extra on drives for load change.

This power supply is adequate for your needs.

Motherboard- 25 Watts
CPU- 75 Watts
Floppy- 5 Watts
Raptors X4 - 25 Watts each
Video X2 -150 Watts
Fans X5-12 Watts
Memory X2- 20 Watts
Keyboard + Mouse-3 Watts
Wireless-3 Watts
USB x 2-10 Watts
Firewire-8 Watts
Panel lights-2 Watts
__________________________

338 Watts Total MAX

Many of the currents from the loads are divided into 12, 5 and 3.3 volts etc..., so the true total amperage doesn't really look like this when you do the math;
EX:
338W/12V=28.1 Amps
338W/5V=67.6 Amps
338W/3.3V=102 Amps

More like;
100W/12 V=8.3 Amps for the hard Drives (Really 40 Watts)
150W/12 V=12.5 Amps for the GPU's
12W/12V=1 Amp for the Fans

75W/5V=15 Amps for the CPU
75W/12V=6.25 Amps for the CPU
20W/5V=4 Amps for the Memory
These are just examples.

If you were to use a dual rail system you would have to seperate your loads accordingly to not stress one side of the power supply. Load Balancing is important on SLI PSU's. If you were to connect the three 12 V devices above on one rail the amperage would be over a SLI PSU's single rail rated at 18-20 Amps. Even then you should not exceed the 80% (continuous) I mentioned earlier as you will eventually saturate the power supply from heat and other factors. Keep in mind though that many loads are intermintent, this helps and would account for the good transient response times in ATX power supplies.

PS-People make mistakes and wire SLI PSU's using converters etc.. For all you pro's out there some of the above mentioned does not apply to you.

Mike :)

Zhen-Jock Lau Mar 05, 2005, 03:46am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Asus A8N-SLI FAQ
Did you set your BIOS as per page 1?
Take three sticks of RAM out leave B1,

>> Tried that, doesn't work

PS:I know you already did take the RAM out, it will just help to resolve your issue.
Stick with 66.93 drivers to fix this prob for now.
Are you getting a VGA failure, Beeeeeeeeeep Beep Beep when you boot and it doesn't, after installing the drivers?

>> There's no Beeeeeeeeeep Beep Beep during boot. It works fine in "2D mode", once it tries to do
>> anything else, it just won't work. eg: Directdraw works, Direct3D won't.
>> In fact anything with the driver installed doesn't.

Look in safe mode or standard (without video drivers) and see if there are any yellow exclamation marks anywhere in the Device Manager (excluding the display adaptors).

>> No devices appear with yellow exclaimation marks.

Try manually setting your 1 stick of RAM to 3-3-3-8 2T DDR 400 MHz
Clear CMOS and set BIOS again after changes in windows, such as after installing 66.93 drivers.
Try putting your card in slot 2.
I have a funny feeling that your display is reverting to extended mode, turn on extended mode in Display Properties, but don't make monitor two your primary display.
When your screen goes black, change DVI connectors.

>> Same problem =(

when I attempted to install Windows XP x64, I get the same black screen problem during the setup phase when it tries to detect the devices on the machine

>>>THe black screen is normal when detecting display (as long as it's not permanent), If you can get into windows in safe mode your card works!

>> I get a permanent black screen. (Left it for the whole night even)

Think it's a mobo problem now? Should I RMA it?

Whizzz AKA: SLI Scientist@Work Mar 05, 2005, 04:18am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Edited: Mar 05, 2005, 04:29am EST

 
>> Re: Asus A8N-SLI FAQ
Zhen-Jock Lau

Please do the following in this order;
>Leave one stick in (B1) at the timings I specified.
>SLI in BIOS to NORMAL
>Reinstall direct x 9.0c
>Do a windows update
>Install coolbits.reg, you can get it on the net.
>Uninstall all Nvidia drivers in the Add Remove Programs
>Reinstall 6.39 Chipset drivers
>Make sure everything is ok in the Display Drivers Window
>Install 66.93 Drivers
>I have a little trick after this

Lot's more to do!

This happened to me mate, just play the game.
It's 4 AM in the morning here and I've been non stop here all day, well, 3 weeks.
I hope that you will give this a chance., keep those settings till I see you tomorrow.
If you need your computer, just remove the 66.93 drivers ok!

Mike :)

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Edited: Mar 05, 2005, 05:09am EST

 
>> Re: Asus A8N-SLI FAQ
Athanasios Karageorgiou

PCI-E is enabled memory timings is Kingston asus certified 3-3-3-8-2T,driver version 71.90 WHQL,chipset 6.39,i have left only one of the 2 Gigabyte 6600GT,removed all the PCI cards,coolbits is not installed,temperature is very good
i really dont understand how come after half a month of stability everything comes back

Please open Ntune and look in the information window and provide me the specs there now.

We'll get you back on track!

I'm on the next page!!!

Mike :)
SLI Scientist @ Work


Athanasios Karageorgiou Mar 05, 2005, 04:42am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Asus A8N-SLI FAQ
Mike an exorcist would be a good start for my system :)

HT :1001.107
Memory :400.114
PCI-E :2500.000
PCI BUS :19.000
CPU M :11.0x
CPU Speed :2211.663

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Edited: Mar 05, 2005, 04:58am EST

 
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lol
SLI Exorcisms will be in my new ebook.

Good settings there!
When did you change to 71.90 WHQL.?
What were you doing when it started happening?

Mike :)
SLI Scientist @ Work

Nathan Cole Mar 05, 2005, 06:41am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Hi everyone, already this forum has been extremely helpful esp. all the info from Sander and Mike. First a small success: definitely stay away from SATA dvd drives if you're about to buy new equipment. Changing to an IDE immediately fixed a persistent freeze for me during XP setup when it says "setup is starting windows"...

My problem now is that xp is installed, but when i boot up it gives a "disk boot error, insert system disk". Of course if I then put in my install cd (xp including sp2) and press enter it will boot from the cd. But if I start my system with that xp cd in and let the bootup run its course (in other words, don't press anything when it says "press any key to boot from cd...") then it does boot from the hd and windows runs fine.

so I guess the only problem is that I don't want to have my xp cd in every time I boot up. Any ideas?

also unable to connect to the internet, but i have yet to try the help found on this forum. time for bed!

A8N-SLI deluxe (1004 bios)
PC power & cooling 510W SLI
fx-55 with thermalright xp-120
1 GB Kingston value ram kit (2 x 512) in dual-channel
2 x evga 6800 ultra
2 x WD raptor 74 GB in RAID 0 (on NV sata 1 and 2)
Maxtor DM10 300 GB (on NV sata 3)
Plextor px -708a (primary IDE)
floppy
Creative Labs sb audigy 2

Thanks,
Nathan Cole

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Sorry, in above post forgot this info:

XP is installed to the 2 raptors in RAID 0. The Maxtor is empty. When I'm in XP, it calls the RAID disk C: and the Maxtor E: But, when I ran the console recovery program from the xp disc and scanned for installations it found my lone xp installation to be on D:

Boot order in the bios is set to floppy, cd, hd and under hard drives it's set to the RAID disk, then the Maxtor.

Thanks again!
Nathan

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>> Re: Asus A8N-SLI FAQ
Mike said:
>Good power supply characteristics
>Transient Response
>+5V,+12V and 3.3V outputs return to within 3% in less than 1ms for 20% load change.
>28 AMPS +12 V
>38 AMPS +5V

>I have you at about 336 Watts with the devices listed at full load.


Thank you Mike for going through all that for me. I was worried that I would need a 500 or 600 watt monster to handle everything, and that I may have been premature in buying the 480w power supply.

Its a bonus to the community that people like yourself are willing to put time into helping others.

I can now concentrate on buying the other parts (which will take me a few months I'm afraid (the girlfriend wants me to be saving for a house as well))

Simon Voigt Mar 05, 2005, 08:14am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Asus A8N-SLI FAQ
Mike Ive got another possible strange question re the power supply.

Does it matter which molexs I use with the graphics and the motherboard?

My powersupply has

1 x 2 wires (red, black) -> 2 molex connectors (labled fan only) -> currently hooked up to both fans
1 x 4 wires (yellow,black, black, red) -> 3 molex connectors and 1 floppy connector -> lets call this molex A
1 x 4 wires (yellow,black, black, red) -> 2 molex connectors and 1 floppy connector -> lets call this molex B
1 x 4 wires (yellow,black, black, red) -> 2 molex connectors -> lets call this molex C
1 x r20 (will use an adaptor to plug into 24 pin)
1 x ATX 12V 4 pin, already plugged into motherboard
1 x 5 wire -> 2 sata
1 6 wire (3 black, 2 orange, 1 red) -> looks like half an older style ATX connection -> not used.

If I'm going to have two 6800gt's do I need to make sure they are fed by separate molex sets? eg one card uses B and one card uses C?

Also the power supply only has 2 sata power connectors but I need 4, (luckily the motherboard ship with a 1x molex -> 2 sata)

What should share power with the graphics cards?



Simon Voigt Mar 05, 2005, 08:37am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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hmmm my 20 pin atx power actually fits into the 24 pin power socket, with 4 sockets spare at the bottom.

is this an ok config, or should I get an adaptor?


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