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Ronald Mendoza Mar 06, 2005, 04:01pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Asus A8N-SLI FAQ
Hi all. I've built a number of systems myself, but this is my first foray into an AMD-based system. I've read through most of the FAQ (and the replies), and I think I know the answer to my question, but I thought I'd throw it out here anyway.

First, the specs:
Antec Super Lanboy
Antec TruePower 380S (moved from an Antec Sonata)
AMD Athlon 64 3500+ 90nm, retail HSF
ASUS A8N-SLI Deluxe, BIOS 1004
BFG 6800 GT OC
Two (2) 512MB CAS2.5 Kingmax PC3200
(from Newegg: http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=20-1...amp;depa=0)
WD600GB PATA (temporary)
Pioneer A07 DVDRW

What I am experiencing is a seemingly random complete power down. Sometimes I can be in the BIOS, other times I can be in Windows XP for 20 minutes before it occurs. Usually when the system powers off, if I attempt to power it on again, it comes on for a couple seconds then powers off again. The next time I power it on, it seems to power on for good, and then the cycle repeats itself.

I suspect that the TruePower 380S is probably not putting out enough power?

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Whizzz AKA: SLI Scientist@Work Mar 06, 2005, 04:08pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Edited: Mar 06, 2005, 10:26pm EST

 
>> Re: Asus A8N-SLI FAQ
Ronald Mendoza

Your symptoms resemble thermal overload protection features within the supply. Your attempt to turn it on again and it shutting off within two seconds is because prior to the protection circuit opening there was a charge left in the capacitors, on the secondary side of the thermal switch. If you are able to create this scenario a second time in a row then the PSU's circuit is designed in such a way that when a thermal condition happens, the switch cools down fast enough (from fans still running etc...) to close, allowing the capacitors to charge again, but not delivering power to the devices until you press the power switch. There are multi control functions that take place in an overload state, which allow the capacitors to charge quick enough but cut power to the loads (electronically controlled relay etc..) till you press the power button. So basically, when you turn it on, it will turn on for two seconds again as a result of the capacitors having this charge and draining again, then turn off because at that point the thermal protection (heat) is border line (open/close).and opens the switch till it really cools off. The ATX power supply will not provide main power to the main devices, drives etc...during the thermal condition EX: 12 Volt loads, but power will still remain on the board and your green LED will still be illuminated. Some supplies are different in internal construction though, and may react differently, all rails EX: 5 V 3.3 V may be an open circuit till the thermal condition is gone. With supplies such as this the LED would be extinguished.

PS If your LED is still on after a thermal shutdown, and you can't start your computer for a little while, it is a clear sign that your 12 V loads exceeded the PSU's capabilities, or the PSU is defective. One more thing that could cause this effect is the motherboards control circuit giving out due to EX: heat. The circuit controlling the ATX power supplies on/off switch could be the problem as well.

I realize I modified this post a few times but it was a little tricky not be too technical and to help you understand by keeping it simple.

Mike :)

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From: Karar Moe

Just build a system with the following components:
ASUS A8N-SLI Delux
Athlon XP 3000
SAMSUNG 512MB PC3200 DDR400 184PIN
SEAGATE BARRACUDA 7200.7 200GB SATA HARD DRIVE 8MB 7200RPM 8.5MS
ATI RADEON X600-PRO PCI-E 256MB DDR DVI TV-OUT

As soon as I fire up the system, I get a 1 second long beeps. There is no signal on the monitor. The fans, Mobo light, DVD Drive, HDD and all powered. I tried to replace the RAM with a new Kingston DDR400 stick, no change.
Can anyone please help?
Thank you.


Dean Edward Mar 06, 2005, 06:41pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>What I am experiencing is a seemingly random complete power down. Sometimes I can be in the BIOS, other times I can be in Windows XP for 20 minutes before it occurs. Usually when the system powers off, if I attempt to power it on again, it comes on for a couple seconds then powers off again. The next time I power it on, it seems to power on for good, and then the cycle repeats itself.

I suspect that the TruePower 380S is probably not putting out enough power?<


I am a complete n00b with system building,and seem to have lucked out with my first sysyem build and had no problems getting it up and running. I have noticed the problems that insufficient and untested power supplies can cause posted dozens of times in this forum. If you havent checked out the list of tested power supplies at the beginning of the forum, I recommend doing so and biting the bullet and getting one of those.
Of course I may be out to lunch, so hopefully one of these tech. dudes will have other suggestions. I am currently running only one video card, but will be going to the very best power supply I can afford when I make the jump to dual SLi set-up.
I hope you get your system up soon. It really is a great mobo once you get things running well.

Asus A8N-SLI Deluxe(BIOS Revision 1004)
Athlon 64 3500+,socket 939 @2.21ghz.(stock cooler)
POWMAX 500 Watt,LP-6100 EA2-SATA ready(20pin>24pin adapt.)
2x Corsair dual 512 meg,PC-3200, DDR 400
1x Leadtek(Winfast) PX6600GT-extreme(Core,553 mhz / clock,DDR3 1.125 ghz)
Maxtor 6Y160M0 [Hard drive] (163.93 GB,7200 rpm,8mb buffer,SATA)
LITEON Dual Layer 16x DVD Writer,SOHW-1633S
LITE-ON DVD-ROM, SOHD-167T
Creative Audigy2 zs
Cooler Master,Wave Master case stock/w optional 80mm blowhole fan.
Windows XP Professional(SP 2)

PETER PALAITIS Mar 06, 2005, 07:27pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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I've been up & running for a few days now with no big issues. Specs:
3500+ Winnie w/ Thermaltake A1772
2x512 Corsair 3200XLPRO
1x Leadtek 6600GT
PCP&C Turbo Cool 510 SLI (overkill for now)

Followed the instructions on page 1, but the 71.81 Forceware didn't work for me. Wouldn't let me change the DPI setting, blue screen crashes every time, so I installed the drivers from the Leadtek site (which weren't WHQL). Seems to be working though. Going slow with this.. I'm trying to make a network boot disk..running into a few issues there.. Bart's doesn't have a CAB for the Nforce NIC, so I'm trying to build one with MS Network Client for DOS.

Dean Edward Mar 06, 2005, 07:39pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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<<Just build a system with the following components:
ASUS A8N-SLI Delux
Athlon XP 3000
SAMSUNG 512MB PC3200 DDR400 184PIN
SEAGATE BARRACUDA 7200.7 200GB SATA HARD DRIVE 8MB 7200RPM 8.5MS
ATI RADEON X600-PRO PCI-E 256MB DDR DVI TV-OUT
As soon as I fire up the system, I get a 1 second long beeps. There is no signal on the monitor. The fans, Mobo light, DVD Drive, HDD and all powered. I tried to replace the RAM with a new Kingston DDR400 stick, no change.
Can anyone please help?
Thank you.<<

I hate to be the one to break it to you Joe, but this mobo doesn't take an XP cpu. I really hope you didn't try to install one. Here is the specs straight from the Asus website:

"Supports AMD Socket 939 Athlon 64FX/Athlon 64
A8N-SLI supports AMD 939-pin Athlon 64 FX/ Athlon 64 processors with 1MB/512KB L2 cache which is based on 64-bit architecture. It features 2000/1600 MT/s HyperTransport Bus and dual-channel un-buffered DDR400 memory support".

For your sake I hope you are joking about installing a 3000+ XP, but if not I suggest you visit a trained PC tech and get some advice on where to go for here.

Good luck, Dean

Asus A8N-SLI Deluxe(BIOS Revision 1004)
Athlon 64 3500+,socket 939 @2.21ghz.(stock cooler)
POWMAX 500 Watt,LP-6100 EA2-SATA ready(20pin>24pin adapt.)
2x Corsair dual 512 meg,PC-3200, DDR 400
1x Leadtek(Winfast) PX6600GT-extreme(Core,553 mhz / clock,DDR3 1.125 ghz)
Maxtor 6Y160M0 [Hard drive] (163.93 GB,7200 rpm,8mb buffer,SATA)
LITEON Dual Layer 16x DVD Writer,SOHW-1633S
LITE-ON DVD-ROM, SOHD-167T
Creative Audigy2 zs
Cooler Master,Wave Master case stock/w optional 80mm blowhole fan installed.
Windows XP Professional(SP 2)

Otis McGhee Mar 06, 2005, 07:50pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Hello again all. From looking at the faq on page one, it seems the best power supply for my money would be the Tagan. However, I cant seem to find the thing anywhere except pricewatch. I have a problem with this as the only place that carries it there has 0 feedback. I dont like being the guinea pig when it comes to money :( They are carrying it for 78 dollars shipped. Are there any other porven companies that sell it for around that price that you all could recommend to me?

Also I currently have an antec 350 watt. I plan on running one 6600gt. Do you think itll hold until I can find the tagan? To mike, the pci card I used was faulty so I have some buddies sending me their old ones. I finally got around to selling my old stuff and should have a 6600gt evga on the way soon.

Thanks again!

Dean Edward Mar 06, 2005, 08:02pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>>Hello again all. From looking at the faq on page one, it seems the best power supply for my money would be the Tagan. However, I cant seem to find the thing anywhere except pricewatch. I have a problem with this as the only place that carries it there has 0 feedback. I dont like being the guinea pig when it comes to money They are carrying it for 78 dollars shipped. Are there any other porven companies that sell it for around that price that you all could recommend to me?<<

Hey Otis, I dont know if you do Ebay, but there are a few up on buy it now options.

http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=8017...eName=WD1V
http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=4202...eName=WD1V

hope you get a good deal. Dean

Asus A8N-SLI Deluxe(BIOS Revision 1004)
Athlon 64 3500+,socket 939 @2.21ghz.(stock cooler)
POWMAX 500 Watt,LP-6100 EA2-SATA ready(20pin>24pin adapt.)
2x Corsair dual 512 meg,PC-3200, DDR 400
1x Leadtek(Winfast) PX6600GT-extreme(Core,553 mhz / clock,DDR3 1.125 ghz)
Maxtor 6Y160M0 [Hard drive] (163.93 GB,7200 rpm,8mb buffer,SATA)
LITEON Dual Layer 16x DVD Writer,SOHW-1633S
LITE-ON DVD-ROM, SOHD-167T
Creative Audigy2 zs
Cooler Master,Wave Master case stock/w optional 80mm blowhole fan installed.
Windows XP Professional(SP 2)

J Ordski Mar 06, 2005, 08:21pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Thanks all for the great FAQs. Info on PSU pins, settings, PCI slots were all useful to me.

I've built a few systems but my PSU (Antec 480) blew up when I installed the A8N-SLI. With a new Tagan things are pretty good. The box ran fine until I added a PCI sound card Creative Audigy Gamer (older - not X2) in PCI slot 2. Many boot problems. So I moved it to slot 3 (thinking interrupt problems from prior forum messages).

Now I get an occaisonal problem -- Windows boots, usually from cold start, with the following error message:

Machine Check Exception
Tech Info
*** STOP 0x0000009C (0x00000004, 0x80545FF0, 0XB2000000, 0x00070F0F)

Anybody able to interpret this one? System runs fine on rest reboot, temps always under 40C, everything works fine. Thanks.

System
A8N-SLI 1004; AMD 3500+ 90m
2x 512 Mushkin Blue 3200
Tagan 480 in Antec P160
Single Powercolor Radeon x800
Hitachi 80 SATA primary master
Maxtor 160 PATA primary slave
Plextor 708A
Samsung CD SC-152N

J Ordski Mar 06, 2005, 08:24pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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To Otis, I got my Tagan at newegg. about $85 USD

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=17-1...amp;depa=0

Seems a nice product, but I notice some forums point out some unspecified reliability issues. I took Sander's advice and am pleased so far.

Otis McGhee Mar 06, 2005, 09:27pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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This forum rocks so much! Thanks to all about the PS info. I think id rather buy from Newegg as ive dealt with them before and they seem pretty reliable. I hate to pay the extra 10 or so bucks but its a small price to pay for prompt arrival etc. Now to get my pci card in the mail and hopefully silence the Beeeeeeeeeeep beep beep.

Thx again

Otis

Mike Ramsden Mar 06, 2005, 10:39pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Asus A8N-SLI FAQ: changing SiI RAID to Nvidia RAID ... and back again
After reading the first page of this FAQ, I figured I would change from the SiI raid controller to the Nvidia, to take advantage of the speed of the two Seagate SATA-2 drives in my new box. I couldn't figure out why the store put it together with the SiI, when it was "slower." (Little did I know.)

I called Symantec - before I started - about Ghost 9, which I had, and was told it would work ok.

I cloned the RAID 0 array (2 x 160 GB) to a single 300 GB drive, switched the SATA controller (SiI to Nvidia, in the A8N-SLI rig; and hoped to clone back from the 300 GB to the new SATA RAID 0 array. Unfortunately, Ghost 9 will not work with the current Nvidia Nforce4 chipset. I found THAT out, buried in the myriad pages in this "FAQ".. (should have read it all FIRST, not after, but... ) Ghost won't boot from the recovery CD with the Nvidia drivers.

Worse yet, when I tried to clone back using the SiI drivers, I couldn't get the recovery disk to work there either. The 300 GB drive had both the cloned image, and a ghost backup (I had checked before changing the controller) but I couldn't boot that disk on it's own.

I tried reinstalling WinXP on the raid 0 array, and using Ghost 9 to restore the files, but stopped it after about 4 hrs when only a tiny fraction of the files had been moved.

I then, after a lot of searching, discovered True Image, which DOES work with the SiI 3114 chipset, and was able to copy the clone back to the original RAID array, now set up again using the SiI controller, although I had to rerun WinXP install after the clone back, to make it work, but at least it did.

Moral of the story... unless you want some major hassles with trying to recover your RAID 0 array, it appears for now that using the SiI controller was a good idea. I think any time I would have saved by using the "faster" Nvidia RAID controller has been lost big time by the time I wasted with this exercise.

I'll reassess when Acronis gets a driver for the Nvidia chipset, and try again! Until then, I will stick with the SiI controller.

By the way, I also tried the Nvidia e'net controller, as suggested on page 1 of this faq, and had the same problem: wouldn't work, and had to go back to the Marvell.

Mike

PETER PALAITIS Mar 06, 2005, 11:03pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Mike Ramsden:

On the very last page of NVidia's RAID User's Guide (v2.0A), it mentions using Ghost with NVidia Raid. You have to disable Ghost direct disk access, and force it to rely on INT13 to access the disk. Have you tried that? Also, there is a very nifty utility called Image for DOS available from Terabyte Inc. I'm using it to image my NVRaid array and it works just fine. There's also a Windows version. It's much smaller and cheaper (like $18) than Acronis's bloatware.

Peter

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P.S. You don't need any NV drivers either. Just a clean dos boot disk. Image for DOS reads the drive through the Bios. You can back up to another local drive (FAT32), a network drive (with a DOS network boot disk), or a CD/DVD-R.

Dean Edward Mar 06, 2005, 11:11pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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<<By the way, I also tried the Nvidia e'net controller, as suggested on page 1 of this faq, and had the same problem: wouldn't work, and had to go back to the Marvell.

Mike>>

That was the one other glitch i had also run into when running my new set-up over the past two weeks. Marvel controller works flawlessly on my home network, nVidia e'controller has been dead in the water since I fired up the system.

Anyone know what we are doing wrong????

Dean

Asus A8N-SLI Deluxe(BIOS Revision 1004)
Athlon 64 3500+,socket 939 @2.21ghz.(stock cooler)
POWMAX 500 Watt,LP-6100 EA2-SATA ready(20pin>24pin adapt.)
2x Corsair dual 512 meg,PC-3200, DDR 400
1x Leadtek(Winfast) PX6600GT-extreme(Core,553 mhz / clock,DDR3 1.125 ghz)
Maxtor 6Y160M0 [Hard drive] (163.93 GB,7200 rpm,8mb buffer,SATA)
LITEON Dual Layer 16x DVD Writer,SOHW-1633S
LITE-ON DVD-ROM, SOHD-167T
Creative Audigy2 zs
Cooler Master,Wave Master case stock/w optional 80mm blowhole fan.
Windows XP Professional(SP 2)


Kenn Birch Mar 07, 2005, 04:29am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Edited: Mar 07, 2005, 08:55am EST

 
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For people getting the IRQL BSOD can I recommend you disable the NVidia NIC and remove the drivers, I had been battling with the PC since I built it but since removing these drivers and the forceware drivers and adding /pcilock to boot.ini it has been stable (well only for two days so far) but I thought it worth giving a little feedback.

Another problem I had was a blank screen after the initial XP logo came up, this was initially resolved by either removing all CD's from the drives before boot up but then permenantly resolved by changing the boot order.

Hope this helps as this has been probably the most frustrating mobo I have had and I feel a little cheated by having to disable mobo features.

Kenn

Asus A8N-SLI Deluxe
AMD64 3500+
Raidmax Cobra 450W (420W actual)
1 GB Geil memory (2 x 512MB)
1 Gigabyte 6600GT Turbo



mothow Mar 07, 2005, 05:48am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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My good. SLI is alot of trouble .I hope nvidia and the mobo manufactor's get their acts together and work out the bug's personally i would rather have a Nice 4000+ and a 850xt pe than go through all this right now. but i can not wait to see what the new lot of GPu's bring to the table.

ASRock Z97 Extreme 4 / i7 4790K / Corsair H80i / 4x4GB Crucial Ballistix Smart Tracer DDR3 1600 / 1TB Western Digital Caviar Black / 240GB Mushkin Chronos Deluxe SSD / 2x Evga GTX 670 FTW 2GB in SLI / Sound Blaster Recon3D Fatal1ty / Corsair HX1000w
Aleq Skanky Mar 07, 2005, 06:35am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Mike Thellend

Okay the PCIE video card is a dud which I wasn't surprised to see I've swaped out everything else.
It will not post in another mobo. Originally working in my first ASUS A8N SLI DELUXE
before I had problems, it now looks like it died for the cause. RIP.
Which makes me suspect my RMA'd mobo may have had PCIE life in it apart from the secret I only
know: (the PCI bus is 100% not able to post video and probably dead)

An alternate PCIE video card posted first time in my current board no hassles.
Going to take the ABIT X300 SE GURU back now and start all over again.

:)

Aleq

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Don't know what I have to do to get this thing even working. Had it for a week and can't even reach Windows.

Bought a Tagan 600W power supply today and the thing still doesn't work. Previously the comp kept on getting blue screen crashes just because loading up windows and this lead to a continuous loop.

Now, the comp freezes before searching for hard drives.

The bios was updated previously and the settings were set to the ones suggested by Sanders.

Any ideas? Was in the process of formatting and just about to reinstall Windows before it rebooted.

Asus A8N-SLI Deluxe
Amd Athlon64 3200+
Asus EN6600GT (Single Only)
Corsair 1024 TwinX 3200XL
Tagan 600W Power Supply

Asus A8N-SLI Deluxe
Amd Athlon64 3200+ (Standard Supplied CPU Fan atm)
Asus EN6600GT (Single Only)
Corsair 1024 TwinX 3200XL
Tagan 600W Power Supply (TG6068-W01)
Seagate Barracuda ATA 80gb (ST380021A)
Seagate U8 17.2gb (ST317221A)
LG 16x DVD-Burner
Whizzz AKA: SLI Scientist@Work Mar 07, 2005, 08:42am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Peter Wong

Can you edit your post above and list all the parts you have, drives etc...

Mike :)


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