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Mark Hanson Mar 07, 2005, 09:35am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Asus A8N-SLI FAQ
Wow ... there is a gold mine of information here .. kudos to Sander & Mike for the valuable help, this must be THE definitive site for the A8N SLI. I only wish I'd found it before ordering my parts, these are about to arrive in the next couple of days.

Athlon 64 3500+ (90nm)
2 x 512MB OCZ PC3200 Platinum EL Rev2.
2 x eVGA 6800Ultras
4 x Seagate Barracuda 80GB SATA-NCQ (plan to run all 4 in RAID 0)
Enermax 701AG 600W SLI PSU
SB Audigy 2 ZS

(Plus water cooling gear to be added once the system runs on air
DD TDX silver
2 x DD Maze 4 GPU block + RAM sinks
DD Maze 4 A8N chipset block
DDC 12V pump
Black Ice XtremeII radiator)

I think I lucked out on most of the parts, but I'm now wondering about the SATA NCQ harddrives after reading through some 40 odd pages of this thread, hope they will run.

Will start on page 1 after my gear gets here!

I do have on quick question before I start....

Is it recommended to go with the 71.81 drivers (as per page1) or start off with the 66.93 release?

Many thanks & again great FAQ!

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Bill Drehoff Mar 07, 2005, 09:36am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Hey guys just was wondering did anyone use the onboard sound.I started out with my audigy2 then I switched to the onboard sound and noticed in running games or using teamspeak my 3d performance dropped I checked this by using ntune and benchmarking graphics performance while using teamspeak.I noitced my fps dropped in the game.I think I am going to switch back to using my audigy2 also considering using the marvel nic instead to see if I notice any gain in perforance from that also.Just an fyi
a8n-sli deluxe
amdathlon64 3500 winchester
corsair pc-3200 2x512mb
2xleadtech px6600gt
wd raptor 74gb
antec truepower430

Whizzz AKA: SLI Scientist@Work Mar 07, 2005, 10:02am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Edited: Mar 07, 2005, 10:51am EST

 
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Mark Hanson

Is it recommended to go with the 71.81 drivers (as per page1) or start off with the 66.93 release?

71.81, if you encounter problems use the 66.93 to get your system stable, then revert back to other forcewares of your choice. Didn't have my coffee yet!

Mike :)

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Hi I got the A8N-SLI DELUXE mother board with a amd 64 55 fx and 2 6800 ultra card and my computer keeps freezing up with the error message :nvidia display stoped working, than I have to reboot the computer.
now I took one card out and I disabled sli form bios and the computer is running fine and Imm getting more fps. Can anyone help me with this problem so I can run the computer with 2 card withput locking up??
thanks

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Edited: Mar 08, 2005, 10:42am EST

 
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>>>71.81, if you encounter problems use the 66.93 to get your system stable, then revert back to other forcewares of your choice.

Many thanks for the advice Mike, I'll report back once my gear has arrived & I get going.

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Edited: Mar 07, 2005, 12:19pm EST

 
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[The Antec TruePower 550 EPS12V] needs to be modified in order to convert the 8-pin 12-volt connector, coming off of the 2nd 12-volt rail to two 6-pin PCIe power connectors, this is a simple procedure that means extracting the pins from the original connector and splitting them out to two 6-pin PCIe connectors. These will be connected to the GeForce 6800 Ultras directly, hence powering them off of their own 12-volt rail within the power supply.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

I've got the Antec 550 24 pin PSU, and my Xfx 6800 ultra is on its way. I want to make sure I have everything I need to perform the operation above.

-- Does the Xfx come with a conversion power cable I can cannibalize for the pci-e 6 pin connector?
-- The instructions above say to convert a 8 pin connector into two 6 pin connectors. How do 8 pins turn into 12? What am I missing?

Thanks!

MJ Elliott Mar 07, 2005, 12:23pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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-- Does the Xfx come with a conversion power cable I can cannibalize for the pci-e 6 pin connector?

Yes, the XFX Cards comes with a 4pin molex to 6 pin PCIe connector.


-- The instructions above say to convert a 8 pin connector into two 6 pin connectors. How do 8 pins turn into 12? What am I missing?

The PCIe connector only needs 4 wires. 2 Yellows and 2 blacks..........Times two that's 8!!!!


Lancer VI

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Edited: Mar 07, 2005, 05:24pm EST

 
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Re: Asus A8N-SLI FAQ
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[The Antec TruePower 550 EPS12V] needs to be modified in order to convert the 8-pin 12-volt connector, coming off of the 2nd 12-volt rail to two 6-pin PCIe power connectors, this is a simple procedure that means extracting the pins from the original connector and splitting them out to two 6-pin PCIe connectors. These will be connected to the GeForce 6800 Ultras directly, hence powering them off of their own 12-volt rail within the power supply.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

I've got the Antec 550 24 pin PSU, and my Xfx 6800 ultra is on its way. I want to make sure I have everything I need to perform the operation above.

-- Does the Xfx come with a conversion power cable I can cannibalize for the pci-e 6 pin connector?
-- The instructions above say to convert a 8 pin connector into two 6 pin connectors. How do 8 pins turn into 12? What am I missing?

Thanks!
Post Edited On: Mar 07, 2005, 12:19 PM



The XFX Geforce Series GPU (Ultra) comes with a pci-e 6 pin with 6 wires that branch into two 4 pin standard molexes.. pci e = 2 yellow - 2 black - 2 brown FEMALE and the two 4 pin molexes have 3 wires each 1 yellow - 1 black - 1 brown MALES

EX - PCI E 6 pin ATX female into video card---------------2 standard molexes male to power supply female (1-2)

Video card.

--yellow---------------------------------------------------------------------------------yellow------------connector 1
--black-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------black-------------connector 1
--brown----------------------------------------------------------------------------------brown------------connector 1
--brown----------------------------------------------------------------------------------yellow-----------connector 2
--black-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------black------------connector 2
--yellow---------------------------------------------------------------------------------brown------------connector 2

So basically the single PCI-E 6pin connector splits into two standard 4 pin male molexes, or a Y. There will be one pin from each connector of the Y male that wont be used (+5V). The grounds (black) on the 8 pin ATX are common on the 12 V system, you can wire the browns from the Y's to any one, with the blacks of course, in any order.

With standard power supplies there is one ATX 4 pin connector, the main 20-24 pin, 6 pin aux, etc. for your motherboard and a bunch of standard 4 pin female molexes to supply devices. The male connector provided with the XFX was intended for such standard power supplies, or to be connected to the 4 pin female connector from the supply.

This EPS power supply has an 8 pin ATX connector, 4 pin ATX for the motherboard, the main 24 pin, 6 pin aux, etc.for your motherboard and a bunch of standard female molexes as well.
The 8 pin ATX has - 4 yellows 4 blacks FEMALE.

EX - PCI E 8 pin ATX female from supply

From power supply
--yellow-----------------------------------------------------
--yellow-----------------------------------------------------
--black------------------------------------------------------
--black------------------------------------------------------
--black------------------------------------------------------
--black------------------------------------------------------
--yellow-----------------------------------------------------
--yellow-----------------------------------------------------

You need to take half of the 8 pin ATX's wires and get them onto connector 1
You need to take the other half of the 8 pin ATX's wires and get them onto connector 2
Parallel runs (*1 - yellow (from male molex) to 2 - yellows (1/2 of 8 pin)) (2 - yellows to 2 - yellows) (2 - blacks to 2 - blacks) (2 - browns to 2 - blacks) in any order will be fine, as this is a single rail power supply.

There are a few methods of getting the 8 pin ATX wires to the 2 - 4 pin male molex connectors which consist of only three wires each.

Buy a prefab connector, if available, or do it yourself.
Just remember that the black and brown are ground/negative.
Yellow is 12V +
Red will not be used. (5V +)

1) Can I bypass the 4 pin Molexes and go straight from the 8 pin ATX to the 6 pin PCI-e?
2) What do I do when I get a 2nd 6800 ultra? Can I run two 6 pin PCI-e's from the 8 pin ATX (either through 4(!) molexes or directly)?

1)Yes
[The Antec TruePower 550 EPS12V] needs to be modified in order to convert the 8-pin 12-volt connector, coming off of the 12-volt rail to two 6-pin PCIe power connectors in a 2 card configuration, one 6-pin power connector in a single card config (1/2 of the ATX 8 pin). This is a simple procedure that means extracting the pins from the original 8 pin ATX and the 6 pin PCI e connectors, and inserting the wires from the 8 pin to the 6-pin PCIe connectors. These will be connected to the GeForce 6800 Ultras directly, hence powering them off of the single 12-volt rail within the power supply. Please be careful when doing this, remember to place the wires exactly as they were on the 6 pin before starting. You will damage your video card(s) and or the power supply if you make a mistake.

If you can't extract the pins from the 6 pin PCI e or the 8 pin ATX, as they can be difficult to remove, you can do one of the following;

Remove the 8 pin ATX connector by cutting it off at the base and install new pins (comes in kits), and get a bare 6 pin pcie connector from a computer or electronics store, then insert the pins into the new connector

Remove the male molex connector from the video card by cutting it of at the base. Strip, splice and tape or heatshrink a wire that has the proper male fitting to slip into one pin of the 8 pin molex female ends (sold in stores and use the same colors). Be very careful in making sure that the single fitting (X8) you use is (are) heatshrinked, snugg and wont fall out of the 8 pin ATX connector. Observe color coding!!!

You can also remove both the 8 pin connector and the molexes and splice a wire directly, one for one splices, with the above mentioned grounding scenerio (Black-Brown together). Do a western union ( Western Union splice The electrical connection made by paralleling the bared ends of two conductors and then twisting these bared ends, each around the other) and heatshrink, makes for a more professional looking job. You will be able to remove the 6 pin PCI E from the video card for servicing if needed.

Just giving you some options...

2)Yes
Double up on the grounds from the video card (parallel), brown and black together into one fitting (X4 - new black male fittings), yellow for yellow (X4) This will give you a total of 8 wires.

Mike :)

jdr Mar 07, 2005, 02:16pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Absolutely excellent info -- made me realize I had misread the original FAQ. Thanks to both Mike and MJ.

Two questions though:
1) Can I bypass the 4 pin Molexes and go straight from the 8 pin ATX to the 6 pin PCI-e?
2) What do I do when I get a 2nd 6800 ultra? Can I run two 6 pin PCI-e's from the 8 pin ATX (either through 4(!) molexes or directly)?

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Edited: Mar 07, 2005, 03:29pm EST

 
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See 2 nd post above, all in one now, it's better that way!

Mike :)


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Thanks. You can't pay for information this quick and this good.

joe doe Mar 07, 2005, 02:27pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Im having a problem with my sli, it freezes and tells me that the nvidia display is getting stuck in an infinite loop can anyone help me please?

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Edited: Mar 07, 2005, 04:10pm EST

 
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joe doe

Please read your PM's I sent you one over an hour ago.

Mail box, Private message.

Please include all the equipment you're using, hard drives, BIOS info etc... So we can help you better.

Not enough need more!!!
DRIVES - Western Digital, Raotor, what type???
What type of RAM? What settings? 2-2-2-5 etc...
Is system on RAID?
BIOS ver 1004, video driver version 66.93?

Details, details, details. lol

Mike :)

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Edited: Mar 07, 2005, 03:11pm EST

 
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im sorry what can you send it agaging please?
and what is pm ?

A8N SLI DELUXE
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2 6800 ultra video cards
2 gigs of ram memory
this is my email
wjnaim@hotmail.com

Jakub Pop Mar 07, 2005, 04:52pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Hi all that are suffering with the setup and running the asus new flag ship mobo .

I have a quetsuon to those who trying to run the mobo with corsair twinx 3200 xl pt ( 2x512 ) . Did anyone have luck to set the system to run on dual channel ? I did whatever the pros are sugesting on this forum and still got the 1 Gb to run as single channel only ( slots B1 and B2 ) only other way to get memory to work was single stick in B1 .
Is the mobo bad ? or it is just compatibility issue ?



Amd 64 3500+ winnie + zalman 7700
A8n sli deluxe
2x512 mb corsair xms ( xlpt)
2x200 gb seagate on silicon raid controller
2x MSI 6600 Gts
the psu is Ultra X-connect 500w ( max current on 12 v is 34 amps with 70 % efficincy it still is above 20 amps there )

PETER PALAITIS Mar 07, 2005, 04:55pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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This is a dumb question, but how do you tell whether your RAM is running in single-channel or dual-channel mode???

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Edited: Mar 07, 2005, 05:33pm EST

 
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Jakub Pop

A1 and B1, if it doesn't work in those DIMMS, there's a problem. The RAM is fine on this board. Run a complete memtest at the settings I gave you, if you have no errors, your RAM is fine. Test one stick at a time then try both.
Keep your timings at 2.5-3-3-6 1T to start.

Mike :)

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PETER PALAITIS

No question is dumb, we all have our strong points.

cpuz.exe in the memory tab will show you if you're in dual or single mode.
http://www.cpuid.com/cpuz.php

Mike :)

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Hi just wanted to say a BIG THANKS to Mike and everyone on this forum

Build my rig at the weekend as per page one abd all the other info on here and not had a single problem all worked out of the box

Not done any big test yet but will let you know and will feed back



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Athlon 64 FX55
2x Gigabyte 6800 ultra
ENERMAX 600W EG701AX-VE(W) 24P dual SLi PSU
Mitsumi 7-in-1 Floppy Drive
Corsair 1GB DDR XMS3200C2PT TwinX (2x512MB) Duel
Zalman CNPS7700-ALCU Ultra-Quiet CPU Cooler
2 x 160 GB Seagate Barracuda SATA 7200rpm 8MB cache HDD with NCQ
1 x 200 GB Seagate Barracuda SATA 7200rpm 8MB cache
2 x LG GSA-4163BAL Black DVD
Thermaltake Tsunami Case

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Hi All,
I have the A8N-SLI and am still trying to figure out some instability problems with it.
I was just wondering though if anyone could tell me what I should expect to get score wise with SiSandra on the File System Benchmark. I have two 160 WD 8meg cache drives in a RAID 1 Mirror array on the IDE channel using NVRAID. I am scoring about 20MB/s which seems very low.
I ask this because PowerCinema and Studio 9 are unstable. Studio is only when trying to bring a video in from a DV camera or from the TV Tuner. PowerCinema is using the TV Tuner it will crash. I had SATA Converters and I couldn't get PowerCinema to even work because the drive was too slow.
If that is too slow any idea as to what is causing this slow down? It just seems like they should be faster than they are.
The disks are formatted Dynamic with 7 Partitions.
Thanks!

A8N-SLI Deluxe
A64 3500+ 90nm
Kingston HyperX PC4000 512 X 2
XFX 6800GT
NEC 3500A DVDRW
2 Western Digital 160 ATA 8 Meg Cache
RaidMax 668 Case with 420W PSU


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