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Joseph Ringling Mar 11, 2005, 08:54am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Asus A8N-SLI FAQ
All, to anyone who gets their system up and running well, installs the latest nvidia nforce4 standalone kit & the latest graphics drivers which include DirectX 9c, but some how their favorite game runs like crap this fix worked for me. The problem is application specific, but I have a hunch it will affect a lot of high end graphics games that need to run against DirectX.

e.g.

Battlefield 1942 (and all mods like DC)
Battlefield Vietnam
Battlefield 2 (soon to be released)
...and many others

Symptom: You launch the game, go into Multiplayer mode and choose "Internet" to play an on-line game and your screen freezes. Often times the only way to proceed is to use Alt + Tab and kill the process or completely reboot because your keyboard & mouse eventually freeze up too.

This problem appears to plague Asus motherboards with AMD processors, but I have seen some forums where Intel Pentium processors were also affected.

Resolution: You need to modify the shortcut to the application and add append -heapsize and -dxlevel arguments. Otherwise either your memory will not be available to run the game properly, or your graphics card will not like the latest version of Direct X. In my case adding both of these arguments had to be used!

Here are teh steps:

1. Select your startup icon for the game on your Desktop. In this example I'll use my Battlefield 1942 icon.
2. Choose Mouse Button 3 (MB3)->Properties
3. In the Target field append the arguments noted above as follows:

"D:\Program Files\EA GAMES\Battlefield 1942\BF1942.exe" -heapsize 512000 -dxlevel 9b

Where 512000 = the amount of RAM you have (e.g. 512 MB in this case). This will work for most people who are running with 512MB.

My system actually had a 1GB stick of RAM in DIMM_B1, which where it should be per p. 2-11 of the A8N-SLI user guide. My arguments actually looked like this:

"D:\Program Files\EA GAMES\Battlefield 1942\BF1942.exe" -heapsize 1024000 -dxlevel 9b

Note: If your game has fits with DirectX 9b (which most don't, but if they do), you can tweak the -dxlevel argument as necessary to force the game to run at the DirectX level it was tested, certified & shipped with.

For Battlefield 1942, this is DirectX 8.1 I believe. I tested the argument below and it worked well for that game:

"D:\Program Files\EA GAMES\Battlefield 1942\BF1942.exe" -heapsize 1024000 -dxlevel 81

I pounded on this solution for about a week and ended up finding pieces of the answer in two different locations. Combining the two works great.

Tip: If you game is from EA Games there is another tweak you can add to your Target field. It's the +restart 1 argument. This one will make the marketing department at EA games all angry and p**sed off, but it serves them right for inserting such a RAM-drinking wasteful banner before you launch every game!

"D:\Program Files\EA GAMES\Battlefield 1942\BF1942.exe" +restart 1 -heapsize 1024000 -dxlevel 9b

When you launch the game now it will take you directly into the game. If your box is fast, you'll be ready to play at warp speed. If your box is slow and you hate waiting for the EA game banner & song to disappear this will be your savior.

Feel free to post this tip to all gamers. I have read stories about people with these symptoms who never found the answer and ended up buying another motherboard or machine all together. What a bummer they didn't try this.

Happy Gaming!

Joe

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asylum asylum Mar 11, 2005, 09:56am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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I am using 71.84 driver but even with this driver the core was at 425 with bios 1004 the only thing I have done is got to 1006 and now is has droppped to 401

Not sure how it has done it as the gigabyte 6800u is factory OCed to 425 I guess it must just be the PCIE slot in the 1006 bios

Will Bazdarich Mar 11, 2005, 11:14am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Hi, I've been looking through this thread and it's great help but I'm having a problem that I can't seem to find the answer. If anyone can help me I would greatly, greatly appreciate. Understand that I'm a bit of a newbie in that I haven't built a computer in about five years (the last one I built had a p2 400 MHZ with a Voodoo3 card in it... commence your laughter)

Right now I've having trouble getting my new system to run
I have a a8n sli deluxe with:
Athlon 64 3500+
sapphire ATI X700 PRO (I know, it's rather stupid to buy this board without at least an SLI possible card but oh well)
pqi PC3200 1 GB RAM (a little bargain basement but I'm working on a budget here)
one maxtor eide 30GB HD UltraDMA 133
one maxtor sata 60GB HD
one extremely cheap Exact 16x DVD-Rom drive

The first curious things is that when I run the BIOS setup (even when I press F5 for defaults) it shows that I have 2048MB of memory. As I said above I bought a retail pqi 1GB DIMM which I have installed in B1. It seems to pass all the memory tests and everything so I don't know that it's contributing to the problem but it is peculiar so I thought I'd throw it out there.

My main problem is that when I put my OEM XP Home (the reoccuring theme here is bargain basement) it will boot in the DVD-Rom drive and is able to load all of the devices drivers off of the cd no problem (I currently have the SATA drive unhooked because I wanted to just install windows on the ide drive so it's not a RAID driver problem). The setup process gets to the screen where it asks me if I want to a) install winXP b) run XP recovery console c) exit setup. I choose A to install windows and it immediately goes to a screen where it says "Please Wait" and hangs forever.

As a test I tried it without a hard drive install and the setup program didn't hang but instead said I didn't have a hard disk install. I tried unplugging the IDE drive and instead hooked up the SATA drive, one time (just once) it got past the "Please Wait" and instead hung when it tried to load setup.igii (I think that was the extension). I tried it again and it hung @ "Please Wait..."

At that point I thought it might be the drive so I hooked up a 56x cd-rom drive from my other computer. Same result.

I have a AMD64 FreeBSD 5.3 release distro so I popped it in the dvd drive just to see if I could get to the setup screen (this is definetely not a real good test because 5.3 release doesn't have PCIe support but I thought it would at least get past the bootstrap). Of course, the bootstrap froze but it did give me some interesting (possibly!) info. First it failed to load the udmamaster extension and the last thing that it does is load up the DVD-Rom with dma33 because it says the device or cable is not dma 66. Bargain basement drive that it is, it still is dma66 and the bios says so when it loads.

anyways I'm lost. I'm hoping its just a bad DVD-Rom drive but my instincts tell me that I'm just being really hopeful. I'm also considering just biting the bullet and getting XP Pro.

any help anyone could provide me with would really be awesome because at this point I can't even look at the thing and am considering doing something really evil like buying a retail PC.

one last thing, when I disable quickboot (because I wanted to see what it would say on full boot) the computer starts and shows the startup graphic, it then clicks out and shows it again, and again, and again until finally I go back in the bios and turn quickboot back on.

whew... I am really sorry about this long post but as you can see I am completely lost and in over my head.

Sgt Torg Mar 11, 2005, 11:28am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Todd Noway

>>After going to 1006 there is only one BIOS option under SLI. I don't run SLI but on previous BIOS's if I would go into the 2nd SLI option my system would freeze so I'm glad its gone

Yes, I flashed from 1004 to 1006 last night and noticed the same thing. Only option remaining is EZ-Plug warning. Nothing mentioned about this in the Asus BIOS change log (no surprise there). I also noticed BIOS freezes when changing this option with the SLI selector card in single-card position, but no freezes in dual-card position.

I guess the 1006 BIOS automatically recognizes the position of the SLI selector card? Anyway, everything still working fine here.

BTW, my first post. Great forum here. Keep it coming, guys.

Asus A8N-SLI Deluxe (1006 BIOS)
AMD Athlon 64 4000+
2x Kingston HyperX DDR400 512MB
2x Asus 6600GT 128MB
2x WD 74GB Raptor (RAID 0 on NVIDIA controller)
PCP&C Turbo-Cool 510 SLI
WinXP Pro w/ SP2
David Gorton Mar 11, 2005, 11:49am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Hi All,
Just a simple question. Just making sure I have nothing to worry about. :)
The fan on the motherboard covering the NVidia chipset makes a lot of noise especially when I turn the system on then it eventually comes down. Could this be caused by anything other than a cheaply designed fan motor?
Thanks
Dave

ASUS A8N-SLI Deluxe
AMD 64 3500+ Winnie
1 Gig (2 x 512) Kingston HyperX PC4000
XFX 6800GT
2X WD1600JB IDE
16X DVDRW

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FRASER GRANT:

Have you tried reversing the pins on the power switch hookup to your mobo? I had the same problem you had where the LED came on as did the fans but the mobo would turn on. At first I had the the wire from the case hooked up so that letters were facing out (away from the other row of pins) once I reverse it the system started up fine. Now if I could just get windows to install I'd be great.

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Will Bazdarich



FRASER GRANT:

Have you tried reversing the pins on the power switch hookup to your mobo?
>>>It doesn't matter which way you wire the power switch. It's just a NO (normally open) non polarized contact.

I had the same problem you had where the LED came on as did the fans but the mobo would turn on. At first I had the the wire from the case hooked up so that letters were facing out (away from the other row of pins) once I reverse it the system started up fine. Now if I could just get windows to install I'd be great.
>>>White and blacks are negative and the colors are positive. Page 2-29 in the manual shows the correct + or -- pin.
>>>If the power switch cables are white and black it doesn't matter which way you put it. Many people think they have the connector on pin 4 and 5 but really it's on 3 and 4 (wont start).

Mike :)



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David Gorton

Had the same problem, but I went watercooling so it fixed that up real good!

Mike :)

Will Bazdarich Mar 11, 2005, 01:33pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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yeah, actually you're probably right. I probably had the wire plugged onto the wrong pins. It's pretty easy to do. Either way, I was having the same problem Fraser was having and correcting the power switch hookup from the case fixed it so I thought he could try that if he didn't already. Sorry about the misinformation.

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Joe,

I only use my rig for gaming. Playing Doom3, HL2 but mostly Battlefield Vietnam (http://www.clanpsl.com).

I have never had any problems with gaming and my A8N-SLI Deluxe setup.

A8N-SLI Deluxe
AMD64 3700+ San Diego
XFX 6800GT PCI-X
2Gig Transcend PC3200 (2x1Gig)
Antec TRUE550-EPS12V
2x74G SATA 10K Raptors RAID0 on NV 128k stripe
Whizzz AKA: SLI Scientist@Work Mar 11, 2005, 01:39pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Scott Meehleib

>>>Did you press F6 at the first sign of windows and then install NVraid drivers from a floppy at the prompt?
>>>You wont see the drives in the main window if you enable NV Raid or SIL Raid, only when on standard SATA. Set boot devices to HD, CD ROM, Removable. When prompted to boot from CD press enter to install windows. When this completes and you reboot, the RAID will be recognized.

Mike :)

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Sorry Mike and Will, I should have said I got that wrong the first time and switched them around....................Still nothing.

I am left with three possibles as far as I can tell, Useless CPU, Useless Mobo or an outsider the PSU (as I tried it on another system that fired up first time) There is of course a fourth.................Useless builder!

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Will


(I currently have the SATA drive unhooked because I wanted to just install windows on the ide drive so it's not a RAID driver problem)
>>>If you go single SATA you will not need to install RAID drivers, nor will you need to set NV RAID to enabled in the BIOS.

>>>Try this! Go to Bart's and create a slipstreamed cd with SP (whatever) and the OS cd you have now.
http://www.nu2.nu/bootdisk/ This has worked for many people with windows install issues.

Mike :)

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Edited: Mar 11, 2005, 03:35pm EST

 
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Fraser Grant

>>>Did you plug in the 4 PIN ATX connector top left of the CPU?
>>>What are the exact specs on the sticker of your PSU? Some units might state the same name and Watts but it will have a different revision number on the sticker. 24 or 20 Pin?

The mobo lights up, the fans go......And that's it, no beeps, no voice
>>>The Green Mobo light should be on, and the fans off prior to pressing the power switch on the front of your tower
When do the fans go?.
>>>Leave all PCI cards out. Sound - Audigy 2ZS Platinum (should be in slot 2 if you keeo it in)
>>>Hard drive - Seagate 7200.8 300GB 7200RPM SATA NCQ. Is it on NVRAID SATA 1 or SIL SATA 1?
1 or 2 drives?

20 Pin Power Supply setup;

connector clip>>>>>>>>>> ___
BOTTOM OF______ XXOOOOOOOOOO____EATXPOWER
MOTHERBOARD___XXOOOOOOOOOO____TOP OF MOTHERBOARD

X = free
0 = used


Mike :)

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Mike

Thanks, I will try that. Have you or anyone else out there ever seen an instance where the BIOS shows 2048MB in system memory when there is only a 1024MB chip hooked into the board?

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Mike
In regards to creating a slipstreamed disk. Does it matter if I the disc I'm using already has SP2 on it? I had thought that the purpose slipstreaming was to get SP2 on an XP disc that didn't already have it.

Thanks

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I didn't realize it had SP2 already, merely a flesh wound sorry! lol

But, create a cd anyway using a new SP2 file and your existing OS. There's just something about Bart's disks that make things work sometimes.

Bart's method of creating disks adds additional boot drivers or something along those lines. Been a while since I reed his method.
Others with OEM slipstreamed cd's have done it here and were succesfsul.
Try SP1 after, then no SP's if the SP2 doesn't work.

Mike :)


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