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Hubert Popiel-Machnicki Mar 12, 2005, 05:07am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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anyone here an sli master? or got sli to work yet? SIGH! plz read above posts

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Hubert Popiel-Machnicki Mar 12, 2005, 05:36am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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OK, Huey here again.....

this is what I have on my pc..

XFX 6600GT (one of the XFX's was old BIOS so I updated the BIOS, Flashed GPU :P)
BIOS Version: 5.43.02.57
DRIVER Version: 6.6.9.3
Motherboard Bios: 1006

I tried to swap gfx cards around didn't work :(
Service pack 2 installed, Hopefully... :P it says sp2 so, yer.. :)
also It comes up in Device Manager, Display adaptors 2 6600gt gpu's...
when right click and goto advanced settings, in SLI there is nothing still????

Still need HELP... It recognizes 2gpu's in device manager, just SLI settings etc not coming up WTF??

Thankyou,
Hubert Popiel-Machnicki

Paul White Mar 12, 2005, 07:40am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Okay, first of all great post. I have been lurking for weeks until all my stuff arrived, and I must say that it's been time very well spent in prepartion for taking the ASUS SLI plunge. My system is as follows:

AMD64 3500+ 90nm
Asus A8N SLI Deluxe
1 GB Corsair DDR400 TwinX1024-3200XL
BFG 6800GT OC
74GB WD Raptor SATA HD
300GB Maxtor SATA HD
NEC Dual Layer DVD Burner
LiteOn DVD/CDRW Combo Drive
Mitsumi 7 in 1 Media Drive
Creative Audigy 2 ZS
Logitech THX Speakers
Thermalright XP-120 CPU cooler w/Panalflo M1 120MM Fan
2x80mm Thermaltake Smart Case Fans Blue LED
Coolermaster Musketeer LLC-U01 Systems Dynamics Detector
Coolermaster WaveMaster Case TAC-T01 EK w/Side Window
Thermaltake PurePower 560w PSU

I followed Sander's setup guide and upgraded to 1006 Bios, made all the bios settings changes as specified, installed WinXP Pro SP2, and then followed with chipset drivers 6.39 and Forceware drivers 71.90 WHQL. Everything is great so far except for one inexplicable problem with my Thermalright CPU cooler and the Thermaltake CHA1 fan. Despite the fact that I can obviously see that they are working - the MB disagrees and gives me post failures every single time I reboot. The exact message reads as follows:

"Warning your Computer CPU Fan Fail or Speed too Low."
"Warning your Computer CHA1 Fan Fail or Speed too Low"

Now as I said, I know both these fans ARE working and the damn Thermaltake in particular is running full bore and sounds like a jet engine so there is no way it's speed is too low. I am able to get by this boot stoppage by just hitting F1 with no ill effects and my box does not overheat but what gives here? Any help is appreciated.

Thanks,

Paul

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Edited: Mar 12, 2005, 08:03am EST

 
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<To: Paul White>


When Booting, Hit "Delete" and enter the bios. Go into Hardware and disable the fans there. Also if you don't already, update your bios to v1006.

Hope this answers your question.

Christopher
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2x 74gig Raptors Raid 0 config. (Sil-image)
2x 250gig Maxtor SATA Diamond 10 Raid 0 config. (Nvidia)
2x 512mg Corsair XMS PC3200PC2Pro settings 2T 2.5-3-3-6 voltage v1.80
Plextor SATA 16x DVD-R/RW Dual Burner
ATI x850 XT PE 256mg Video Card GPU@ 1.24GHz
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1.44mg floppy ( lol, had to type it)

Alkemyst Darkened Mar 12, 2005, 10:12am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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With wiring the switches and LEDS to the motherboard the only important things are making sure you are on the right pins (no starts and constant restarts are almost always related to being a pin off on something) and that the LED's are plugged in correctly as polarity matters for them...the reset/power switch is just as happy either way...same with the speaker.

Anyone try the 1007.002 beta yet or know a place with some info on it?


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Edited: Mar 12, 2005, 11:57am EST

 
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Hubert Popiel-Machnicki

ok, I had to flash 1 gfx card so it would be same bios version. now they are both 5.43.02.57
and SP2, and the latest gfx drivers....
I selected EZ card to DUAL etc.. and the Seccond card doesn't recognize and come up at all????
not sure why, DO I have to have 2gfx cards when installing windows from start or can I select dual and single whenever
windows was installed??


>>>If you have two GPU's in the Device Manager under DIsplay Adaptors, then your both cards are being recognized by windows.

Not sure how to get this SLI working, I have also BIOS version 1004....
Please Help Me if you can, or anyone has XFX going on SLI, or SLI working at ALL???
>>>I'm trying to help.
>>>I have two XFX Geforce series GPU's ULTRA, I know XFX!

OK im gonna try these 1006 BIOS... probably not work anyways....
>>>You should have stayed with 1004 for now.

no SLI settings in these NEW BIOSES..... why???
I have on the EZ Select CARD on DUAL and I have 1 gfx card in their, IT STILL WORKS??? WTF? does this mean my EZ SELECTOR
CARD is F#$% UP????
HMM, Please HELP if anyone has Solutions to SLI...
>>>You should have stayed with 1004 for now.


i am hubert bro try to help him also out on the sli because we both have same motherboards and same sli cards xfx 6600gt's yes Mike i did check the device manager there are NO yellow exclamation marks or question marks! only raid coz i dont use
it yet =) and YES i have video drivers 66.93 on BOTH cards i checked and mike if you read the top post my bro said he changed the graphics cards bois in the post! so i CHECKED my Device mamnager it shows TWO cards Working normally but i cant select no setting in the SLI-Multi GPU
>>>Hi, Hubert's bro. I did read your post and fully comprehend what you're talking about. This is BASIC 101 for me.

OK, Huey here again.....
this is what I have on my pc..
XFX 6600GT (one of the XFX's was old BIOS so I updated the BIOS, Flashed GPU )
BIOS Version: 5.43.02.57
DRIVER Version: 6.6.9.3
Motherboard Bios: 1006
I tried to swap gfx cards around didn't work
Service pack 2 installed, Hopefully... it says sp2 so, yer..
also It comes up in Device Manager, Display adaptors 2 6600gt gpu's...
when right click and goto advanced settings, in SLI there is nothing still????
Still need HELP... It recognizes 2gpu's in device manager, just SLI settings etc not coming up WTF??
>>>You didn't need to post the same problem again. JUst answer questions as we go along wether you think they're basic or not.
These basic questions need to be asked in order to solve your problem.

Try the following;
>>>Go back to 1004 for starters, as there have been reports that the 1006 have some WTF things in it.
>>>Try the 7x.xx series Forceware to see if it will pick up the card and give you the settings in the Advance section to enable Multi GPU.
>>>Try uninstalling and reinstalling the drivers in safe mode.
>>>Try removing the BIOS battery, wait 10 seconds, put it back in, and reset BIOS to bare minimum all default settings except drive and boot sequence.
>>>In Display Properties do you see a Monitor 1 and 2, or just a single monitor?.

Mike :)

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A8N / SiL3114 RAID Failure Problem:

Hi Guys,

I've built a new system using the A8N which I have had up & running for a couple of weeks. I've rebooted it many times, installed quite a lot of s/w and had it well 'burnt-in'. I was very proud of this until the other day when ran into some enfuriating problems with the RAID. The worst thing for me is (a) i still cannot diagnose which devices are faulty, (b) even when fixed/replaced I am now unsure what the best configuration would be.

Disk configuration: 4 x Samsung SP1614 160G SATA HDD on SiL controller, setup as bootable RAID10 array. I have now added 1 x same HDD on the NV controller in order to boot independently of RAID.
O/S: XP SP2

One day when i rebooted, XP failed at early stage saying a system file is corrupt, please re-insert CD. Before this there was no warning of any problem with the disks.

On doing so, and following the usual F6 driver procedure, XP Setup could not see any partition or free space on the controller. I tried a few more times in vain, not wishing to believe my 'redundant mirrored' system was toast. Intermittently i noticed that one of the 4 disks was reported by the SiL at bootup with a silly random size, and occasionally the signature for that drive was corrupted (garbage text), or the SiL bios would hang.

I purchased a new identical HDD and plugged this into the NV controller. I then installed XP on this and the SiL RAID s/w. Strangely enough it would then report the whole array as healthy!! XP decided to run chkdsk and clean the data, allowing me to access it and retrieve it to backup.

I tried again booting from the array, but this would give a blue screen at some point (sometimes after logging on, sometimes during boot). These were h/w sounding errors, e.g. IRQ_NOT_LESS_EQUAL (sp?) in sil3114.sys, STOP 0x05 etc.

I noticed in SATARAID5 GUI that there was a 5 hour task to 'restore redundancy'. I left it to complete and then now reinstalled XP on the array. I now notice after rebooting, it is doing the 5 hour task again!

I guess the SiL controller h/w is faulty, but i'm really not sure how to verify what is or isnt working here.

Going forward, i'm not sure if i should:
- not use the raid at all, as it seems to give me exactly the problems which i want to avoid,
- fix the SiL controller problem,
- use the nv raid instead,
- buy a decent sata raid controller card.

Sorry it was long, thanks very much,
Chris

Drakan Mar 12, 2005, 11:55am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Hello everyone,

Just upgraded my BIOS from 1004 to 1006 and my display drivers from 66.93 to 71.84. Thought I would pass on what I learned from the experience and from reading the latest posts from my cohort here, the "mad" SLI Scientist @ Work ... :)

First off, everything is working as advertised, and the system seems to run faster than it did under 1004 and 66.93 ... but more on that later ... :)

When I upgraded the BIOS, I followed Sander's instructions as per original installation; reset everything to defaults (F5 key in BIOS Setup); then upgraded from 1004 to 1006. Mind you, I kept the original 1004 BIOS flash disk ... just in case ... :)

GOTCHA NOTE!!! When you upgrade using the above procedure, you MUST reboot your PC three times for the BIOS to find and recognize the nVidia RAID controller as a boot device ... especially if you have, as I do, an extra hard drive connected to an IDE controller.

Everything worked fine on the third reboot after I set the RAID array as a boot drive. The BIOS upgrade will reboot your PC (the first time) after the flash completes. This first reboot is where you go back in and reset everything per page 1 of this post; however, the BIOS will not recognize the RAID array when you enable it as a boot device.

You have to reboot a second time for the BIOS to find the RAID array; then you can configure the BIOS (on the second reboot) to recognize your RAID array as a boot drive. The third reboot should bring your system up ... running faster than it did before.

YOU DO NOT HAVE TO RECONFIGURE THE RAID DRIVES (F10 key)!!! If you run into problems during the BIOS upgrade, the original RAID array (with your OS on it?) will remain intact. Do not mess with it ... :)

And that takes care of the BIOS upgrade. FYI, I run Crucial Ballistix memory, so I force the DRAM timing to the SPD defaults of 2-2-8-2. This does not cause any problems for me, BUT, Crucial Ballistix is one of the "approved" memory vendors on the Asus site. I would stick with Mike's memory timing suggestions until you get your system stable.

What many people forget, whenever they upgrade display drivers, is to uninstall the old drivers first ... so that is what we are going to do. Two things you need to know here: first, when you uninstall the 66.93 drivers from Control Panel ->Add or Remove Programs->nVidia Drivers, just check the Display Drivers box; leave the other two boxes open; and second, when your PC reboots, CANCEL the install wizard popups to force your PC back into "VGA" mode.

Then install the 71.84 drivers and configure SLI mode as you did with the 66.93 drivers. When you configure your SLI cards, please remember that there are three settings you have to configure to make SLI work. First, is the Enable SLI GPU check box on that tab; second is the "Show advanced settings" check box on the Performance & Quality Settings tab; and third is the "SLI rendering mode" selection in the advanced settings window. Since you have to scroll down to find this last setting, many people forget it's there, so they don't select the "SLI multi-GPU rendering" option, and then wonder why their two cards are not operating correctly.

If you do all of the above correctly ... and it took me a few tries ... these are the 3DMark05 scores you should see with a stock FX-55 + 6800GT SLI rig.

1004 + 66.93 = 8352
1006 + 66.93 = 8395
1006 + 71.84 = 8917

So the 1006 BIOS is a bit faster than the 1004 BIOS and the 71.84 drivers are alot faster than the 66.93 drivers probably due to the optimization configurations nVidia has added to the newer drivers.

FYI, EQ2 (Steamfont) and WoW (Llane) are playing better than ever in SLI mode; these are two of the new game configurations in the 71.84 drivers.

Last, and I hate to sound opinionated, if your rig is not working and you have deviated from the suggested components Sander and Mike have listed and discussed, read my config below and spend the money to get "good" stuff ... it pays off in the long run ... :)


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Just a note.

If your cards are being recognized in windows under the display adaptors section, 2 GPU's, and you can't get the Multi GPU box to enable, then it's a driver/settings issue, other than what I mentioned below.

In Advance>your card tab>Performance & Quality Settings>Check the show advanced box>Scroll down to SLI rendering mode and selecting>Multi GPU Rendering> it does exactly that. Enables Multi GPU Rendering. This setting will not stop you from going into SLI mode. You can still have SLI capabilities in Single GPU Rendering, the only thing that will happen is that you will not have Multi GPU Rendering.

PS Thanks for pointing out the Rendering thing again. This has been discussed in the forum on numerous occasions and can easily be found, along with anything else, by doing the following;

1-Download Flashget, it's free! http://www.amazesoft.com/ and install it.
2-Go to http://hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/38623/
3-Right click in the FAQ section and click Download All by Flashget
4-The Select URL window will appear, in this window select file 38623 (index file page 1) and all files that resemble _o=20 (page 2) to _o=1280 (page 65) etc. and uncheck the rest. Download.
The files will end up in C:\Downloads
5-Use a file renamer software or manually add the .html extension. ie: 38623.html _o=20.html to each file.
6-Copy this folder to your desktop and rename to A8N-SLI FAQ.
7-Use Google desktop search (adjust settings - Google integration. CHECK Show Desktop Search results on Google Web Search result pages. and UN-CHECK the rest) to search the desktop and it will scan the folder and give you concise answers. http://desktop.google.com/

Works great!

Mike :)

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Chris

Going forward, i'm not sure if i should:
- not use the raid at all, as it seems to give me exactly the problems which i want to avoid,
>>>This can be fixed, a waste of Motherboard RAID capabilities if you don't use it.
- fix the SiL controller problem
>>>Yes, there is no reason for this not to work since you had it running for a few weeks already and it was fine.
- use the nv raid instead,
>>>Take two drives and mirror on SATA1 and SATA 2 and have the OS on this.
>>>Plug the rest of the drives on the SIL system, create RAID if you wish.
- buy a decent sata raid controller card.
>>>I wouldn't, just isn't right with all the RAID functions and capacity of this board.
You will possibly still get errors on a RAID card, I did!

One good way to have full control over the RAID systems on your computer is to install an OS on an IDE drive as backup in case of situations like this. "You can use the RAID software within windows to repair etc..." If your RAID decides to act up then you can set the IDE as Primary boot device and work within windows to resolve issues. I helped someone in the US over the phone last night using this exact method as he was not able to boot in RAID, nor was he able to install an OS. Once in windows it was discovered that one of his drives failed, we managed to salvage the other one. We deleted the RAID information retained by the drive within DIsk Management and reformatted. We could not take control in the NVRaid utility on boot-up. He is awaitng his new Raptor at which point he will be able to start over again.

My opinion only!

Mike :)

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>> Okay, per Mike's advice I tried slipstreaming my Win XP disc using Bart's method with my SP2 disk.
>> Same thing as before, as soon as I tell the Win XP installer to install windows it hangs when it
>> says "Please Wait."

Hi Will.... i know that this might not work... but i had this problem very recently with a completely different computer (not a A8N-SLI motherboard)... i fixed it by going into the BIOS and turning off the CPU Level 1 and Level 2 Cache. I would suggest try that. Be warned however that installing windows (or doing anythign for that matter) without CPU Cache will be extremely slow! I'm talking hours just to get roughly halfway through the windows install. If this does help then it might indicate that your CPU is bad.

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First, wanted to say what a great FAQ. With the help here I got my PC up and running in no time, read through about 75% of this, hope I didnt miss what I am about to ask. I bought 3X 512 PC4000 Sticks of Kingston HyperX memory. Reading through the FAQ I realized my PC was not boooting because it had to be in the B slots. My problem is I if I put my third in slot A1 or A2 the PC will not boot up. It turns on and the fans run, it just wont boot the monitor. My question is: If I bought a 4th stick and used BOTH A slots will that work? Do I need to have both slots filled? I have noticed this fact on other boards. ANy help appreciated and all the help I have gotten here has been GREATLY appreciated.

JC

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[RAID Problem]

Thanks for the prompt advice Mike!

I can see now it is really useful to have a backup O/S install which is NOT on RAID, so i'll definitely be keeping that :)

I guess i'll persevere and try to fix the array then. I'd prefer to have striping & mirroring, so i need all 4 on 1 controller.

Do you (anyone!) know how i can test and diagnose whether the controller (i.e. mobo) is faulty, or whether i have problems with the disks? The SiL GUI s/w is clearly not going to be that helpful. Has anyone seen a faulty disk reported in the SiL SATARAID gui or BIOS util? Do i need to remove each disk and check it with s/w like SpinRite?

I didnt realise the Sil was on PCI and the NV was not, perhaps i'm best to take this oppotunity (i.e. when my system is at rock bottom & with all the install CDs out of their cases!) to move over & reinstall on this?

thanks very much,
Chris

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Jay Casteel

A1 and B1 are the correct slots to use in a two stick config. If your computer doesn't fire-up with them there, then there is a problem with the motherboard or your timings are too high.

Three sticks will not work in this motherboard in any config.

Yes, having four sticks will work for you.

Mike :)



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Just wondering if it is absolutely necessary to configure my disks to Dynamic from Basic? NVidia says that once you have configured your RAID drives you should from within Windows convert from basic to dynamic.
Also it doesn't matter if I am basic or dynamic according to Sandra my drive speed cuts in half when Mirroring on the IDE NVRAID channel. I go from 45mb sec to 22mb sec. Is that normal?
Thanks!

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David Gorton

Yes it's normal as you are using the same bandwidth to copy a block of data to the mirrored drive instead of one (slower).. If striping, it would be the opposite, using the same bandwidth to split a block of data into two instead.(faster)

Mike :)

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[Raid Problem]
Hi Mike,
I have tried the 'resolve conflicts' option a number of times in the bios and also in the sataraid gui; it always says 'no conflicts'.
The thing which is really confusing, is that there is not a clear 'failed' drive. Neither the bios nor the sataraid gui has ever indicated any of the drives as failed, so i cant choose a 'failed drive' to replace :(
I noticed it was only ever the 3rd in the set which had its signature corrupted in the boot message (since the failure). However, it isnt doing this anymore and reports all healthy, which is why i asked about using SpinRite to check each disk... Perhaps i should suspect it is the 3rd one and move that over to the NV as a non-raid drive?
thanks again
Chris

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Hi Kevin,

regarding the USB conns, what kind of connector(s) are attached to the 4 wires you mention from the case (d+,d-,gnd,vcc) ? I would expect a molex type 1 row of pins, 4 pins long for a single USB port or 2 rows x 5 pins for 2 conns. The pinout is on p. 2-24 or the asus manual. In any case you can plug it into any unsued USB conn on the mobo. If it is a 1x4 you have to be careful to get the orientation right - check the pic on p. 2-24. A 2x 5 should have one of the pins blanked out so you cant get it round the wrong way.

For the 1394, look on p 2-27. Again, dont they give you a single 2x5 conn? If not and you have to work it out i expect VP should connect to the +12v pin, VG (presume the g for ground) to one of the GND pins, and Shield to another.

Audio, check the manual, i havent looked into this.

cheers
Chris


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