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Whizzz AKA: SLI Scientist@Work Mar 12, 2005, 05:10pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Chris

I have tried the 'resolve conflicts' option a number of times in the bios and also in the sataraid gui; it always says 'no conflicts'.
The thing which is really confusing, is that there is not a clear 'failed' drive. Neither the bios nor the sataraid gui has ever indicated any of the drives as failed, so i cant choose a 'failed drive' to replace
I noticed it was only ever the 3rd in the set which had its signature corrupted in the boot message (since the failure). However, it isnt doing this anymore and reports all healthy, which is why i asked about using SpinRite to check each disk... Perhaps i should suspect it is the 3rd one and move that over to the NV as a non-raid drive?


However, it isnt doing this anymore and reports all healthy
>>>I thought you replaced that drive with a new one!
I purchased a new identical HDD and plugged this into the NV controller. I then installed XP
on this and the SiL RAID s/w. Strangely enough it would then report the whole array as healthy!!
XP decided to run chkdsk and clean the data, allowing me to access it and retrieve it to backup.

*****>>>This could have happened with the cable not being secure, even bumping or moving the tower, windows twitch etc.., *****RAID IS VERY SENSITIVE*****

>>>So with the last recommendation I made, I figured you had 5 drives. 4 on the SiL with the OS working and one defective drive. This is why I said take that drive and put it on the NVRaid as SATA non RAID to delete, format and test within windows. Sorry if I misunderstood.

The thing which is really confusing, is that there is not a clear 'failed' drive
*****>>>It works or it doesn't. If you had a defective drive you would not be able to access the RAID. Usually when a drive fails it's for good unless you try and salvage it with the method I described earlier. So your drives are fine and you need not spend money on that program to check it.*****

Mike :)

Chris Giles Mar 12, 2005, 05:37pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Hi Mike,
sorry for the confusion. I condensed many hours of minor despair into a couple of sentences :)

I have 4 drives on the SiL as a bootable RAID 10, and i never swapped any of them out in the end. I bought only 1 new drive (identical) and plugged this into the NV on its own, then i installed windows on it and used it as step-ladder to get into my broken raid set. I have now reinstalled XP on the RAID set, so have 2 basic installations of XP.
I still dont know if any of the original set of drives are defective or if the controller is, which is why i'm not sure what to do now. They're all behaving themselves and i cant see any errrors now. However, my windows installation is right back to square 1. I wanted to check the h/w out and replace whatever is defective. I'd heard people recomend SpinRite to test, but at $89 its actually more expensive than another new disk!

thanks again,
Chris

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Hi Mike

Thanks for a great job on the forum and all you help I now have a very stable machine with some good 3DMark scores

But I was wondering currently I have Corsair 1GB DDR XMS3200C2PT TwinX (2x512MB) CAS2 running at DDR400 T1 2.5 3 3 6

I do have a further 2 sticks of the same ram which would make all banks full 4x512

I know that there are issues with timmings etc with all banks full but wondered what would be the best timmings I could get using all 4 or am I looking at T2 3 3 3 6 or worse

If is is not possible is this somthing you think will be addressed in a bios update or should I sale the extra sticks

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I am wondering if anyone has had a similar situation as this: My system is up and running just fine. Normally, I use a USB wireless adapter and have the onboard LAN ports disabled in BIOS. However, I noticed that when either of the LAN ports are enabled, my system boot time slows down rather dramatically (time from initial logon screen in XP to desktop). Is this normal?

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Asylum,

I know that there are issues with timmings etc with all banks full but wondered what would be the best timmings I could get using all 4 or am I looking at T2 3 3 3 6 or worse.


>>>You should be able to run this RAM at 2 - 3 - 3 - 6 1T DDR 400 MHz with 2 sticks.
>>>At 2 - 3 - 3 - 6 2T DDR 400 MHz with 4 sticks
The command rate will not work at 1T with 4 sticks (ever)
The only time you will need to increase latencies is if you increased DDR MHz speed, such as DDR 550 MHz. If you stay with DDR 400 MHz you will simply need to change the command rate to 2T. Worst case 2.5 - 3 - 3 - 6 2T.

If you get errors anytime, just change the CAS to 2.5 in either set 2 or 4 sticks

Mike :)


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I guess everyones computer is working now!

Mike :)

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Edited: Mar 13, 2005, 05:00am EST

 
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My computer's still fine... but the sound is non existant.


The system:

A8N-SLi Deluxe
1GB Dual Channel DDR 400
Radeon x700 PCI Express
200GB SATA Western Digital
NEC DVD -/+ RW DL
Windows x64 Pro Trial (Don't tell me this is my issue >.<



The Issue:

I have flashed the BIOS with the new 1006 revision (that fixed a lot of the issues that I was having with the drivers), however, I am having a major issue with the audio. When I connect anything (speakers) to it, I get nothing. I checked the Control Panel and there is no audio device detected. Tried installing the audio drivers from the disk as well as downloading them from the internet and still .... nothing. Any help? please...

This may have nothing to do with it... but I also wanna throw this out there... Whenever i boot up with the motherboard disk in the DVD drive - the system shows 2 floppy drives in My Computer in addition with all the other drives (which work 100%, just threw in another floppy).
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Roger Wombat Mar 13, 2005, 05:57am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Whew!! Massive FAQ guys!!! Great job!! Finally finished wading through it.

Now, here is my (I think, after all the others) easy but long (soz) question.

My System:

ASUS A8N-SLI Deluxe Mobo (1003)
AMD 64 3200+
1 Gig DDR 400 Kingston in Dual Channel
Leadtek Winfast PX 6600GT TDH 128Meg Extreme (Single only!)
Pioneer DVR-109 D/L Burner
120 Gig WD PATA Hard Drive
400watt MGE (LC-B400ATX) 20 Pin PSU
Windows XP Pro SP2 (Also tried Sp1 and 64Bit)

Everything installs and works fine (followed all relevant BIOS settings and other articles in this FAQ), NO dramas at all. Until intense 3D graphics. The problem seems to be getting worse too.

The graphics will "glitch" for a while (no set time frame, either straight away but no more than say 15 mins) and then the system will crash, again, generally not straight away. Either back to windows with an error (error while reading/writing memory address.. etc) or a complete reset.

The temps seem within normal ranges, M/B + CPU within normal temps. G/C - 50c no load, and have been up to 72c under load (might go up more but either crashes before reliable reading, or goes down by time get to read - using Riva Tuner to monitor temps, NO overclocking). The clock speed readings are as specified by manufacturer (550-GPU, 1120-Mem)
Video BIOS version: 5.43.02.39
Have tested System memory with Memtest86 for several hours - no errors
Using all up to date drivers - Forceware 71.xx + tried earlier versions
Everything is plugged in correctly and all devices showing correct in Device Manager. Gone over all settings many times and re-installed many times also. Definitely no old driver conflicts.

No other problems. Is only when playing games or intense 3D stuff, (3D Mark 05 (Score3834) run repeatedly and on fourth run will reset system. And if I try to run Real-Time High Dynamic Range Image-Based Lighting 1.2 (rthdribl.exe), it will open the window, and straight away reset the system.

Have seen other posts of systems running with these size power supplies, and generally if it has been the PSU, not the same problem as this.

Have concluded that it is of these 4 possibilities:

Graphics card is stuffed!
GPU or G/C Ram too hot
Power drain (17amps on +12 volt rail)
Or maybe my pathetic 1999 15 inch CRT P&P monitor (highly unlikely i think, though who knows eh!)

I have posted elsewhere on this forum, but decided here is probably the best spot to post as it could be the motherboard and it adds to the knowledge base that is already here.

And very sorry if this problem has already come up, but have been pretty thorough on the read through and have been reading a LOT of other forums trying to narrow it down, but still have no decisive answer!

So should I send the Graphics card back for replacement and/or new PSU


Cheers everyone!!! :)



ASUS P5N32-E SLI: G0 Q6600 @2.4: 2GB OCZ System Elite 800Mhz: 750GB WD, 74GB WD Raptor: 2x ASUS 18x D/L Burners: Palit 8800GTS Stock: ASUS 22" VW222U 2ms DVI WS: Antec P182 Case: Thermalright Ultra 120 Extreme HS: Corsair HX620 PSU: Vista Ultimate
Chris Giles Mar 13, 2005, 07:16am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Hi Rog,
does very much sound like the GFX card, and i think you have successfully isolated this as the problem by repeatedly crashing with 3d mark.
I dont suspect it is the PSU (my view only - am no expert in diagnosing faults with gfx), perhaps more likely the card overheating. You could try to test this hypothesis by running with the case open vs shut, or pointing a desk fan at the gfx card. You can also buy 'freezer spray' which is an aerosol can with a small tube to give rapid local cooling - you could keep the GPU and mem cool and see if it prevents it crashing. If this is the cause perhaps still worth returning it, as you havent overclocked it, it should be able to handle this load.
Regarding the PSU, check how much power it can supply at +12 vs +5v. I expect the gfx card draws at +5 only (could be wrong - check elsewhere in the forum) as +12v is mainly for disks. I noticed the diff between the range of PSUs i bought between the lower, mid and high power was only on the +12v rail for more disks. You could measure the current drain with a multimeter but i would not attempt if you are not confident (and/or dont have one:). )
cheers
Chris

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[Raid problem]
Mike,
I havent done anything drastic yet; i found out that Samsung (i guess all disk mfrs) have a diagnostic util which does a surface test etc, so i was going to try each disk one by one with this. I havent tried yet.

I have noticed that AGAIN the SiL RAID has decided to do a 'restore redundancy' task - (5 hours - seen in the sataraid gui). This seems odd, because theres still no mention of any failure at all, and i let it complete this same task twice with no user interference :) inbetween. I'm thinking perhaps one disk has some problmes - i.e. not failed dead, but surface errors, or intermittent fault (- could even be the SATA cable ?) which is causing this. Does anyone know what would cause the RAID to start this task, given i have not changed anything?

Apart from this it seems happy, but i'd need to reinstall all apps etc, and i wanted to bury this problem totally before going through all that..

Thanks again. I noticed you put in a great effort on everyone's problems yesterday Mike, let us know if there's a charity we can donate to or something :)

Chris

p.s. All - check out the coffee table book - 'Digital Retro' by Gordon Laing and remind yourself how far we have come!

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Edited: Mar 13, 2005, 09:27am EST

 
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Thanks for response!

Am thinking is G/C too. Done a lot of testing, sent a lot of e-mails and asked a few tech guys at swap meets etc, all have come to much the same conclusion.
The case has been open since i first found the problem. Don't think it should really be getting this hot still though.

Will be taking it back during the week. PSU am sure is ok for this spec system.

Cheers :)

PS: [CHRIS] When I Installed 64bit edition I had the same problem with the sound drivers. Downloaded the 64bit versions but they are only aprox 160 kb compared to 20 odd meg for the 32 bit version. wtf? Anyone know whats going on here? They will not install when you point to them from Device manager install. In device manager there are 2 other devices that have ? on them, one is unkown and can't remember what the other one was, I think they are something to do with the nforce4 chipset as the NV ethernet is unavailable too.

Does anyone have any ideas on this? :)


ASUS P5N32-E SLI: G0 Q6600 @2.4: 2GB OCZ System Elite 800Mhz: 750GB WD, 74GB WD Raptor: 2x ASUS 18x D/L Burners: Palit 8800GTS Stock: ASUS 22" VW222U 2ms DVI WS: Antec P182 Case: Thermalright Ultra 120 Extreme HS: Corsair HX620 PSU: Vista Ultimate
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I broke it!! Was running fine for about a week, then last night I was running some doom3 timedemos and playing with AIBooster, when it locked up loading one of the demos. When I went to reboot, it wouldn't recognize the (USB) keyboard. Can get nowhere without a keyboard. Have tried 2 good keyboards, and have plugged them into every available USB port, including the front panel ones. No matter what I cannot get it to recognize that it has a keyboard attached. My next step is to borrow an old PS/2 keyboard and try that, but even if that works I'm left with non-functional USB ports. Disappointing turn of events after an encouraging week :(

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Roger Wombat

Try this;
>>>Reduce your GPU core to 425 MHz and Memory core to 1000 MHz. (Coolbits.reg or similar, needs to be installed)
>>>Disable PEG Link mode in the BIOS.
>>>Do run a fan pointing towards the video cards "as mentioned by Chris" but after testing with the lower cores first.

The video card uses 5 and 12 V.

Mike :)

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PETER PALAITIS

Playing with AI can cause problems like this. (overclocking).

Remove your BIOS battery and reset the BIOS. It will recognize your USB device.

Mike :)

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Chris

have noticed that AGAIN the SiL RAID has decided to do a 'restore redundancy' task - (5 hours - seen in the sataraid gui). This seems odd, because theres still no mention of any failure at all, and i let it complete this same task twice with no user interference inbetween. I'm thinking perhaps one disk has some problmes - i.e. not failed dead, but surface errors, or intermittent fault (- could even be the SATA cable ?) which is causing this. Does anyone know what would cause the RAID to start this task, given i have not changed anything?


>>>Do a registry clean with Registry Healer. You have meta info regarding your last fault in the registry and it needs to be cleaned.
>>>In addition to this there is meta data on the disk itself. You will need to create a new RAID 10.

Mike :)

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John Byrd

I have flashed the BIOS with the new 1006 revision (that fixed a lot of the issues that I was having with the drivers), however, I am having a major issue with the audio. When I connect anything (speakers) to it, I get nothing. I checked the Control Panel and there is no audio device detected. Tried installing the audio drivers from the disk as well as downloading them from the internet and still .... nothing. Any help? please...
>>>As I mentioned in a PM to you, you have to manually access the audio drivers folder within the Windows Wizard and choose to install the drivers, have disk, and point to the 64 bit drivers to get your audio to work. D:\Drivers\Audio\V5721-64bit
or standard 32 bit D:\Drivers\Audio\WDM
D:\ being my DVD drive

If the above mentioned doesn't work then;
1-Your doing it wrong, cd is defective etc.... Download drivers from ASUS and extract the contents to a folder on the desktop and try accessing the drivers there rather than from the cd.. All yellow warnings must be clear in the Device Manager.
2-AC is disabled in the BIOS
Onboard Device Configuration

- Onboard NV LAN : Enabled
- Onboard LAN BOOT ROM : Disabled
- Onboard Marvell LAN : Disabled
- ******AC97 Audio : Disabled ******* ENABLE
- PCI IEEE 1394a : Disabled
- Silicon Image SATA Controller : Disabled
- Serial Port1 Address : Disabled
- Parallel Port Address : Disabled
- Game Port Address : Disabled
- ******Midi Port Address : Disabled******ENABLE

3-The audio is toast on the MOBO

This may have nothing to do with it... but I also wanna throw this out there... Whenever i boot up with the motherboard disk in the DVD drive - the system shows 2 floppy drives in My Computer in addition with all the other drives (which work 100%, just threw in another floppy).
>>>You're right, has nothing to do with it.

Mike :)

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An easy way to find out if the audio is toast on the motherboard is to enable "Report System Booting" in the the speech configuration in the Bios. If it's working, you'll get an informative voice at boot-up (via the on-board audio) telling you Post is done and the o/s is about to boot.

Mike, thx, clearing the cmos fixed my keybd problem. Thx for your help.. I suppose I should wait for some definitive overclocking guide to come out for this board.

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PETER PALAITIS

You're welcome.
I suppose I should wait for some definitive overclocking guide to come out for this board
>>>Never go over 108% on NOS and Ai, 4X on HT, this is a good start.

PS - You will not hear the voice from the onboard speaker. just beeps.
His onboard is out, so he can't get post messages.
It would be nice to find out if his onboard was set to disabled or not.

Mike :)

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At the risk of angering some folks for using space improperly, I just want to take a moment to thank very heartily and specifically Mike Thellend for his help ( I won't go into many details, he used our fix as an example a few pages back). He rescued my build, my 2nd of 2 raptors, and my confidence that I can make this Mobo sing. Thanks again Mike, you are truly a gentleman and a scholar...


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