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asylum asylum Mar 15, 2005, 06:07pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Asus A8N-SLI FAQ
To Duane Hall

Are you saying that I should not use the IDE ribbion that came with the board?

I have two DVD drives both LG 4163b both are working OK but one the master is a lot slowwer at reading than the other which is odd as they are the same drive

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Duane Hall Mar 15, 2005, 07:15pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Asus A8N-SLI FAQ
asylum asylum,

"Are you saying that I should not use the IDE ribbion that came with the board?"

I used the ASUS-provided "HDD Cable" bundled with the motherboard and not the CD-ROM cable. Later, I went out and bought 2 round 80-connector cables because I liked their look (kind of a translucent blue sheath). Try an 80-connector ribbon to see if it improves your throughput.

Info on this topic -

To quote from another website about the DMA Mode 2 / 33 MBs transfer rate (and beyond) spec:

Even with the advantage of double transition clocking, going above 33 MB/s finally exceeded the capabilities of the old 40-conductor standard IDE cable. To use Ultra DMA modes over 2, a special, 80-conductor IDE cable is required. This cable uses the same 40 pins as the old cables, but adds 40 ground lines between the original 40 signals to separate those lines from each other and prevent interference and data corruption. ... (The 80-conductor cable was actually specified in ATA/ATAPI-4 along with the first Ultra DMA modes, but it was "optional" for modes 0, 1 and 2.)

More details here: http://www.pcguide.com/ref/hdd/if/ide/modesUDMA-c.html

Duane


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Edited: Mar 15, 2005, 09:03pm EST

 
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Mike and Duane, thanks a lot!

Duane, you're right, I was using the optical drive connector that came with the motherboard, and it never detected that the Lite-On DVD-ROM was there. It did however detect that the newer Lite-On DVD+RW was there. I will switch IDE cables and see what happens.

Edit: Alright, I switched both the DVD-ROM and the IDE cable, and everything works great. Thanks a bunch. Now all I gotta do is figure out how to save all my data while installing a fresh windows...

Simon Lu Mar 15, 2005, 09:37pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Edited: Mar 15, 2005, 09:50pm EST

 
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HD BSOD:
A8N NON-DLX, 1001 BIOS
SATA 1: WD 740 two partition C: XP PRO, D: Prpgrams
SATA2: HD 7k250 two partition C: x64 RC2 D: Programs

under XP PRO, i got a BSOD saything that i need to do chdisk, not all the time, ran into it twice.
under x64, ntfs.sys errod BSOD, this is deadly!!!! never had a problem with x64, maybe the BIOS. ( i was on 1004 DLX, went to to 1001 for better Overclock results)

the system is not OCed, so, what do you think guys?

one more thing, i was talking about slow transfer rate with my DVDRW and DVD ROM, i guess it is due to the cable, will upgrade the cable soon.....Mike did you know this? which type is recommended, just any 80 conductor
Newegg link:
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=12-1...amp;depa=1
Simon Lu

Rob Ciraco Mar 15, 2005, 10:07pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Edited: Mar 15, 2005, 10:08pm EST

 
>> Re: Asus A8N-SLI FAQ
Has anyone noticed when you flash to Bios 1006 there is no SLI option or some memory timming options, and when you do select to change these option the BIOS locks up then I have to re-boot. I re-flased to 1004 with out any of these problems....I also flashed with the ALT+F2 method. If I use the ASUS update it states "unable to find file on the remote server", only the ftp://ftp.asus.de is able to retrieve the BIOS file....if I use the bios from this server will my Bios be in french?

C P Mar 15, 2005, 11:39pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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oops i think i sent a pm to sander. sorry. here is the post.

1st i think this site is great because its so specific.

I have some basic questions as I am new to some of this and definitely new to overclocking.

I have 2 6800 cards in SLI mode. I have 2gb of OCZ ram.

my questions are?:

How do I verify that my cards are truly running in SLI mode?
What are the best tweak recommendations for my system?
What should I overclock my RAM to?
What should I overclock my 6800's to?
What should I overclock my processor?

pretty clueless on this stuff.
thanks in advance.
cepolly.

Dan S Mar 16, 2005, 01:10am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Edited: Mar 16, 2005, 01:15am EST

 
>> Re: Asus A8N-SLI FAQ
Hi guys,
Perhaps someone can help me with this extremely frustrating problem. My computer specs are below:

Asus A8N-SLI Deluxe Motherboard
AMD Athlon64 3500+ Winchestor
2x512MB Corsair VS RAM (in Dual Channel)
Leadtek Geforce 6600GT Extreme
Thermaltake Shark Case (inc. 400W PSU)
DVD Burner
CD Burner
2 IDE HDD's
2 SATA HDD's
Intel Pro 100Mbit NIC

Ok, so i've had the computer for about 6 weeks now but i am unable to use the gigabit network ports on the motherboard because otherwise my computer will BSOD after roughly 30 mins of intense use. I have WinXP SP2 (with all updates), Nvidia 6.39 Standalone Drivers, Nvidia 71.84 Video Drivers, 1006 motherboard BIOS. I have tried all sorts of things to get this to work.... i have tried the firewall on and off.... i have tried removing the Nvidia Network Access Manager software..... i have reinstalled WinXP about 6 times... and I have tried the old nvidia drivers that were out before 6.39. The BSOD error says its a IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL error and refers to the NVTCP.sys file. The crashing only seems to occur when my computer is making a LOT of connections.... eg. P2P programs, or even running when i was running an FTP server, sharing files on my LAN, and playing Warcraft3 simultaneously. I find it strange because its not just the Nvidia network port that causes this, but also the Marvell port. So to get around this i put in a 100Mbit network card (listed above)....so i currently use this for my internet. However, what is also really strange is that for some reason using the internet on this 100mbit card causes frequent time-outs and data corruption (honestly i have only noticed this happening on port 80, but i can play online games fine and ftp seems fine too).

I really want to use the gigabit ports and also want to try the nforce4 firewall. Does anyone have any clue as to why this might be happening? Thanks so so so much in advance!

Kariage Kun Mar 16, 2005, 08:59am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Edited: Mar 16, 2005, 09:02am EST

 
>> Re: Asus A8N-SLI FAQ
Hi Dan S,

here are several things you could try... sorry but I think you have to reinstall windows one more time again to verify...

- Turn off computer remove all PCI cards you have...
- Clear Bios using the clear bios jumper, take the battery out for 1-3 hours and put back in
- Set the bios at FAQ said... for memory configuration go for DDR400 3-3-8-3...
- Reinstall Windows XP (make sure you do clean install :))
- After reinstallation, install nforce 6.39...
- Don't do anything else, try surf on the net or do something that causes the blue screen before, see if you have blue screen... If you do, there's possibilty that your memory or motherboard is faulty... I would try take out one memory and try again, if you still have blue screen swap another memory and try again... if you still have blue screen try RMA the motherboard...
- If you don't have blue screen repeat step 5 and 6 with different driver (for example video card) until you find the culprit.

Hope this will help you :)

Alkemyst Darkened Mar 16, 2005, 09:02am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Well it wasn't my SCSI card...I am not sure what is going on....I see the BIOS screen come up but if I press DEL or not it still goes to a black page with a flashing '_' cursor symbol in the upper left corner. My bet is it's trying to find devices and waiting for them. I have tried the card in every slot without anything else in slots and also with and without drives attached...I get the same result.

As soon as I remove the card XP boots. ASUS tech was unhelpful last night for the hour I was on with them...I did get pushed to level 2 support that told me flash to 1006 (which I was on, however, 1004 and even clearing CMOS was no help) with a boot disc which i had to make today since my wireless NIC needs a driver now due to a hardware reconfiguration due to the missing SCSI.

This didn't help either. I brought the cards into work and both will work fine on a basic Dell.

This was working about 2 months now with daily use.

Kariage Kun Mar 16, 2005, 09:45am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Edited: Mar 16, 2005, 10:02am EST

 
>> Re: Asus A8N-SLI FAQ
Hi C P

How do I verify that my cards are truly running in SLI mode?
>> Go to your SLI option... there are 2 boxes (I forgot the exact name) the top one is the option to enable SLI and the bottom one is the option where you can see the bar how hard your video card works when you run 3D application (check both of them)... The bar going to the top is your first GPU and the bar going to the bottom is your second GPU... If you don't see one of this bar that means you're not running in SLI mode.

What are the best tweak recommendations for my system?
>> The easiest way to tweak your system is to use nTune which automatically overclock and adjust the most optimal speed (check Mike FAQ on page 16)... but remember this tweak sometimes cause instability with your system...

What should I overclock my RAM to?
>> First you should see on the sticker that sticked on one of your OCZ Ram... let's say it says PC3200 2.5-3-7-3, then on your DRAM settings you should set it as DDR400 2.5-3-7-3 the rest at auto...

What should I overclock my 6800's to?
>> Download the coolbits registry (available at guru3d.com), which allow you to go to change core clock and memory clock in advanced menu of Geforce 6800... Go to that option and click detect optimal settings... make sure you check mark apply this setting when windows start and click apply and ok

What should I overclock my processor?
>> Refer to nTune, before you do that you might want to change the Jumper Free Configuration in the Bios, set it to Manual... PCI clock synchronization to 33.33mhz, CPU voltage 1.550, DRAM voltage (refer to your RAM manual or leave it to Auto), PCI-Ex Bus 100mhz, CPU Bus 200mhz... Also you might want to change HTT Multiplier to 4x...

I think all of these should be answered in Mike's FAQ guide on page 16...

Eric Currie Mar 16, 2005, 11:22am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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I would just like to thank everyone for this great thread, and it's helped me out a lot in setting up my new system.

I am having what I believe to be a pretty weird problem, so any help would be greatly appreciated. First off here are some of my specs:
Athlon 64 3800+
A8N-SLI
1gb Corsair Mem.
GeForce 6600GT
IDE 120gb HDD (old and pretty much filled with media)
SATA 120gb HDD (new)

My problem is that I have installed WinXP pro sp1 on my SATA, only when I boot, I have to boot to the Master (which I assume the BIOS is referring to my IDE, because there is also an option to boot from my Master SATA). If I try to boot from the SATA, I get the message that tells me there isn't an op sys on it. All in all, I wouldn't really find this an issue, but in windows, my C drive is my old IDE HDD and my D drive is my new one with my system files on it. My SATA drive is also appearing as hardware that I can "Safely Remove." I'm not sure if this is an issue with having both the SATA and IDE drives (I vaguely remember hearing that this can cause a problem). I was thinking that changing the IDE HDD to a slave and updating to SP2 could solve the problem, but wanted to hear some input. I believe that I am running v.1001 on my BIOS, (but don't quote me) because when I tried to update I was having some issues. Now that I'm more comfortable with the setup, I may try to update the BIOS again. Any suggestions?


jdr Mar 16, 2005, 11:58am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Asus A8N-SLI FAQ
C P,

And you may find better performance with 1 GB of ram (2X 512) than 2. With 1GB you can set the memory to 1T, instead of the 2T 2GB requires.

Or so I'm told....

Kariage Kun Mar 16, 2005, 12:38pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Edited: Mar 16, 2005, 12:41pm EST

 
>> Re: Asus A8N-SLI FAQ
Hi Eric Currie,

Sorry, I dont really get what's your problem is... (English is not my first language :))... anyway, I'm assuming that you're asking how to install windows on your S-ATA disk and you want the windows to read your S-ATA disk at C:

here's a few tips if you want to do that (you need clean install of windows so back up everything first):

- Turn off your computer and unplug your IDE drive
- Turn on your computer put windows xp cd in, delete the S-ATA partition and reformat it...
- Install windows as usual
- Once installation finished, go to my computer, your S-ATA drive should be in C drive
- (Optional if you want your second IDE HD to be read as D) right click my computer -> manage and then change the drive letter for your CD-ROM... change it from D to E or whatever you want...
- Turn off your computer
- Plug your IDE drive back
- Have fun you have S-ATA on C and your IDE on D :)

If you have boot problem, like the motherboard always like to read your old IDE drive do the following:
- Go to bios
- Go to Boot section
- Select Hard Drives
- Move up your S-ATA drive to the top

Hope this will help you :)

Billy Langston Mar 16, 2005, 02:16pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Edited: Mar 16, 2005, 02:18pm EST

 
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Ok, I have got to be the BIGGEST IDIOT NOOB out there. After sending yesturday on the phone and here reading every single post, I came home from work today and wanted to try one last thing before I RMAed my mobo. So, I unhooked my rig, set it on the work area and fished out my ASUS mobo manual. Now, to everyone out there who might even have remotely been as dumb as me I say to you... READ THE FOOKIN MANUAL!!!

There it was in big bold print--Invert the SLI selector card and INSERT (not invert) the edge lable DUAL VIDEO CARDS

I peer into my case and all of the blood in my body proceeds to rush into my cheeks as I came to realize just how much of a fool I was and how much undo frustration, heart-burn, and headache I had caused myself. I flipped the chip over, re-hooked up my system and rebooted with crossed fingers. I entered Safe Mode and wipped out the Nvidia display drivers and held my breath as I booted back into windows.

Guess what....when you actually have things set PROPERLY the system works fine. I went from a measly 4454 in the free version of 3dMark05 to a nice non-OCed 8880. Now I'm going to go and read, read, and read again Mike's post on page 16 to see if I can get higher scores. EverQuest 2 here I come with shadows blazing!

My heart felt thanks to everyone posting on this board and to Sander and Mike for never allowing me to "give up"

-Billy-

David Gorton Mar 16, 2005, 02:45pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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I have a question about RAID 1 Mirroring with the NVRaid.
I have my drives set up in raid but they are not formated Dynamic. If I do try to convert then to Dynamic I lose my Partition Table. So I guess my question is do I really need to set them Dynamic or can I leave them Basic?
Thanks!

Also just curious. I have Kingston HyperX PC4000 which will work at DDR500 at 3 4 4 8 timing. I however can't seem to get it to work at that timing or I was figuring better yet if I set them to DDR400 but at more aggressive timing I would acheive better speed but still the only thing I can get to work is setting it to T1 Timing. If I change anything else I can't boot and have to clear the CMOS which is annoying. With T1 I am acheiving 5600-5800 Sandra memory scores. Still I have everything else set at Auto. So if anyone knows what setting I can safely change to get even more performance that would be cool!
Thanks Again!

Dan S Mar 16, 2005, 02:59pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Hi Kariage Kun,

Thanks for the quick reply. I have actually previously tested the memory and it is certainly not the thing at fault. And unfortunately i have also pretty much done the rest of your steps.... that is install only WinXP and then the 6.39 drivers.... it still happens.... although the only thing i have not done is turning off all devices from the bios so that they aren't given irq's (like midi, parallel, serial ports etc)..... i reckon thats my next step.

Its a bit strange cause at the moment i am using the nvidia port and am doing everything that causes a BSOD... and have been running like this for about 12 hours.... the only issue i have now is that its causing all sorts of problems with timeouts and data corruption on port 80 (i think only port 80). The other strange thing is i tried to reinstall the Network Access Manager but then my computer screwed up and wouldn't correctly boot up (i got to the logon screen and when i logon it goes to a totally bare desktop without taskbar or explorer... the only thing i could really do was open task manager).... to fix this i had to reboot and select "Last Known Good Configuration".

Any thoughts or should i just go ahead reinstall windows (cant do this till wkend) and remove all possible devices?

Tim Buescher Mar 16, 2005, 03:44pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Hey Guys, Great Thread very Help Full,

I am currently having problems with my new A8N-SLI Delux motherboard installation procedure. I have connected all the wires and fans properly, as well as the memory and PCI-E video card. The problem I am having is that on start up I have not been able to get any signal on my Decaview G380 .25mm DecaClear Monitor display. I have tried reinstalling the battery and moving the jumpers for the battery around to reset the system, but still have the same problem. I have also tried forcing beeps by removing the video card and the RAM but still no video or beeps. It appears that my system is possibly failing the POST startup sequence. I was wondering if anyone had any questions on how to remedy this situation. Also since my monitor is VGA, I must use my VGA adapter. Thanks for your help.

60 GB Western Digital
120 GB western Digital
SONY CD-RW
2 X 512 MB (crucial)
A8N-SLI Delux
AMD Athlon 64 3500+ Winchester
Antec SL450 Watt Power Supply
standard floppy drive
evga GEFORCE 6800 GT

Crispin Ali Basah Mar 16, 2005, 03:45pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Thanks to this forum, I've gotten my machine to be built. I had to RMA the defective mobo and asus took like 3 weeks to replace it. They shipped it back to me through overnight FedEx.

I installed the 32-bit version of Win XP and it's freaking buggy. Anyone had similar experience? Then, I switched over to XP x64 (RC2) and it has been running smooth and faster.

-Crispin

Kariage Kun Mar 16, 2005, 04:05pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Hi Dan S

you could try playing around with the bios settings in the meantime... since you mentioned about P2P, FTP softwares I would also try uninstalling them and install alternative software or try updating them (makesure they're the latest release)...

If the problem still occured (most likely) here's your task on the weekend:
- Find an extra ethernet cable and replace the one you used before
- Do as I said before... (clear bios, remove pci devices, reinstall windows, etc)
- Stop once you installed Windows XP SP2 and Nforce 6.39 driver (don't update windows as well since you said you have Win XP SP2 CD (if you have WIN XP SP1 CD update it to WIN XP SP2 first before installing Nforce 6.39 driver) and don't install any drivers not even video card)
- Install nforce netware with firewall or whatever they call it
- If the windows crashed like you said before or causes instability (BSOD)... I would try RMA the board (I know it sucks)...
- If windows loads up fine... install your favorite P2P, FTP, etc software one by one (just like I said in the previous post but instead of driver do software now :))
- If it causes BSOD, look for alternative program and try it...
- If BSOD still occurs... RMA the board (again it sucks to RMA)...

Kariage Kun Mar 16, 2005, 04:10pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Hi Tim Buescher

it looks like to me you have a defective motherboard since you said there was no beeps at all when you removed your RAM and Video Cards... Try RMA the motherboard :)


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