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mark kerr Mar 19, 2005, 10:06am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Asus A8N-SLI FAQ
SLI scientist@work


hi, i tried your suggestion without success, what were the othert couple of ideas you had?

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Whizzz AKA: SLI Scientist@Work Mar 19, 2005, 10:25am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Edited: Mar 19, 2005, 10:35am EST

 
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mark kerr

right iv tried uninstalling then installing the display drivers in safe mode, and its exactly the same as before, the auto/sli/single options are not an option in the 1006 bios the only thing under the sli heading is EZ plug or whatever its called, what were the other couple of ideas you had? many thanks by the way mate.

>>>I didn't realize you had the 1006 BIOS, can you go back to 1004 for the time being?
>>>I don't know what video drivers you're using but use 66.93 till you fix your problem.
>>>I know you switched your cards, but did you boot with one card at a time? You need to make sure both cards can be recognized in single display mode before going any further.
Let me know what happens or happened!
>>>I know this is going to hurt you more than me, you will need to clear your BIOS every single time you change your cards around.
>>>Try adding hardware and select display adaptor, it might pick it up.

I do have many other worthwhile steps to try, this is a start to clearing your problem..

Mike :)

Billy Langston Mar 19, 2005, 10:27am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Edited: Mar 19, 2005, 10:29am EST

 
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Just a quick update--

Uninstalled NForce 6.39 drivers via the control panel, rebooted into safe mode, installed the NForce 6.53 drivers. Rebooted into windows and my display settings were back at default. Rest them and ran 3dMark05, test results:

8250 (CPU 4515) with PEG Link on and HDD SMART off

Rebooted and re-ran test results:

8259 (CPU 4585) with PRG Link off and HDD SMART off

So, at least the new NForce drivers seem to be stable (I did have to re-enable SLI), but it looks like my quest for a 3dMark05 score of above 9k will have to wait for new Forceware drivers as it seems that I'm going to Have to OC my vid cards to break the barrier and with the 71.84 drivers I can't OC with coobits or NvTweak.

AMD 64 FX-55 (939)
ASUS A8N-Deluxe SLI w/ NForce 6.53 chipset and BIOS version 1006 (set per page 1, exceptions: PEG Link off, HDD SMART off, DDR voltage AUTO)
ANTEC True550 PSU
1 gig Kingston RAM (512 x 2) (3-3-3-8-2T)
2x XFX 6800 GT 256mb dual DVI out in SLI mode (350core 1000mem) Forceware driver 71.84
Creative Labs Audigy 2 Zs
Seagate 80gig 7200 rpm SATA
Seagate 120gig 7200 rpm SATA
Sony 16x DVD rom
TSST corp CD/DVDW
generic floppy
4 in 1 card reader
Windows XP PRO SP2
Cooling-- 2 120mm case fans -- 2 80mm case fans -- 1 stock CPU fan
19" ViewSonic G90f monitor
System price---under $3,000

mark kerr Mar 19, 2005, 10:51am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Asus A8N-SLI FAQ
SLI Scientist @ Work

hi, i did revert back to the 1004 bios to carry out your suggestions, but when i went to the sli tab and hit enter i had the EZ PLUG then sli and AUTO was already highlighted, when i hit enter on that the bios froze and wouldnt respond to ESC or anything else, i gave that 3 goes then went back to 1006, does any of that mean anything before i start pulling things out again, id also like to add that watercooling everything (aquacomputers) is also adding to the joy of this f*****g rubbish when it comes to moving cards in and out etc!!

Whizzz AKA: SLI Scientist@Work Mar 19, 2005, 10:55am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Simon Lu

>>>It's a trade off, latencies for higher FSB's, just see if you have any substantial increases in performance. If you do, then what the heck, stick with the higher FSB.

Mike :)

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Edited: Mar 19, 2005, 02:54pm EST

 
>> Re: Asus A8N-SLI FAQ
mark kerr

I have watercooling too, that sucks man, I pulled mine out often to clear problems. Well, before you go to that extent lets try a few more things.
>>>Go back to 66.93 drivers for sure.
>>>Create two files nv4_disp1.inf and nv4_disp2.inf using a copy of nv4_disp.inf and put them in the folder C:\NVIDIA\Win2KXP\66.93, from here manually point disp1 to the first or only GPU in the device manager.(If the second GPU is in the list at any point during these trials point the second GPU to disp2.inf) So the point here is two use two new files not the existing nv4_disp.inf and nv4disp2.inf.
>>>Get Registry Healer full version and let it fully repair your registry, even at the expense of some programs not working correctly. If this happens then the programs have faults and will need to be reinstalled. Fix the registry first then programs after, if need be. Repairing your registry can clear this problem.
>>>Do a windows repair, not the ASR or a full windows folder overlay, just a repair. Just remember that if you have a RAID setup you will need to reinstall drivers or windows will not detect your hard disks, and don't worry, you wont lose anything by reinstalling these drivers.
>>>If after the repair you don't see the second GPU, clear the BIOS and try again.

>>>Are you overclocked in any way? RAM, CPU, etc.?
No overclocking whatsoever, during your repairs.

PS - Try removing your SLI connector across the top, shutdown, clear BIOS, reset.
Also, try updating drivers doing the same procedure as well.

Mike :)

mark kerr Mar 19, 2005, 11:28am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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SLI Scientist @ Work

HI,

Nice one, i'l give that lot a go now, thanks again

mark

Kariage Kun Mar 19, 2005, 12:11pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Edited: Mar 19, 2005, 12:11pm EST

 
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Hi All,

WOW! nForce 6.53 & Forceware 71.84 rocks! My 3DMark05 went up close to 700 points in SLI mode... Does anyone have the same major improvement?

Kariage Kun Mar 19, 2005, 12:18pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Hi Billy Langston,

I saw your RAM setting timing is at 2T... have you tried changing it to 1T? try it and see if you can break the 9000 barrier with your default settings :) (unless you assume 3-3-8-3 2T for your RAM as DEFAULT setting, well in my definition default setting is when you dont overclock your CPU + Video card and use windows + drivers default settings, the bios you can change it for more optimal result)

Chris Giles Mar 19, 2005, 12:24pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Does anyone know if Asus will accept a board RMA which has had that stupid whiny Northbridge fan taken off? I found the fan very annoying and replaced it with a Zalman ZM-NB47J heatsink (passive), after following a thread on another site where people reported this suitable. If anyone is interested - i think this is a good mod it gets almost too hot to touch though despite the sensors reporting ok.

I dont suspect this is the actual cause of a problem, but i guess it voids the guarantee, and also i bust one of the pegs on the old part, so cant really swap it back.

My fault is with the SiL raid and I still suspect the controller. Am currently checking out each of my disks, then i will know. If they are unlikely to accept the board i will move the array to the NVraid, and hope the SIL is OK for one or 2 sata discs non-raid.

thanks
Chris

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Merc Mar 19, 2005, 12:35pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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From what I have read most will run on 64bit OS but a lot of installers will not. Performance gains are minimal to negative unless the program is optimized/compiled for 64 bit processing.

Merc
Modified Lian Li PC 7077A
Dual Watercooling Loops
Asus P5K Deluxe BIOS 0404
Core 2 Duo Q6600 (3600MHz@1.46v)
Max OC 4050MhHz at 1.65v
1 x XFX 8800GTX XXX Watercooled
2 GB Team Xtreme DDR2 800-PC6400
2 x 150gb WD in Raptors in RAID 0
1 x 640
David Minnitti Mar 19, 2005, 12:46pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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hey the new 6.53 standalone driver is out on the nivdia site !!!

Billy Langston Mar 19, 2005, 01:13pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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so that 2T to 1T is something I can change in my BIOS---and could it damage my RAM?

Thanks for the suggestion :)

-Billy-

Jakub Pop Mar 19, 2005, 01:59pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Just found what was causing my problem with dual channel not working , so i thought i d share it with u guys , one of the processors legs was bent and shorted to another one and of course it wasnt inserted into socket ! Everything was working fine except it wouldnt boot with memory in slot 1 and 3 or 2 and 4 only in slot 3 or 3 and 4 was working . Thx god i was able to straighten out the leg without breaking it and now system is working wonderfully :)

I belive the proc was shipped like that as i didnt take it out of the box till i was ready to put it in the socket so if any of you have the same problem check your processors ! The bent leg was one on the very edge of the processor

Whizzz AKA: SLI Scientist@Work Mar 19, 2005, 02:48pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Billy

>>>To set RAM timings to 3-3-3-8 1T

BIOS>
Advanced>
CPU Configuration>
DRAM configuration>

-Max Memclock (MHz)-------------[DDR400]
-1T/2T Memory Timing--------------[ 1T ]
-CAS# latency (Tlc)------------------[ 3 ]
-RAS# to CAS# delay (Trcd)-----[ 3 ]
-Min RAS# active time (Tras)-----[ 8 ]
-Row precharge TIme (Trp)---------[ 3 ]
-Row Cycle Time (Trc)---------------[ AUTO ]
-Row Refresh Cycle Time (Trfc)---[ AUTO ]
-Write Recovery Time (Twr)--------[ AUTO ]
-Read-to-Write Delay (Trwt)-------[ AUTO ]

You can do better with the other timings as well. 3-3-3-8 can be lowered to manufacturers lowest latency settings plus a bit if you run into some errors. EX: 2.5-3-3-6.
No you wont damage your RAM.

Mike :)

Billy Langston Mar 19, 2005, 03:02pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Thanks Mike!!

Any idea where I can find those rec mem specs---I didn't see anything on the stick itself and my system was supposed to have been built with Geil ram but Everest reports it back as Kingston.

-Billy-

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Edited: Mar 19, 2005, 03:23pm EST

 
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Hi Chris,

I thought you had this problem solved.
Did you not follow my recommendations?
Remember where I said if the drive works in RAID it works! There are no half measures in a RAID system (except for the data split. lol), if the drive is defective in any way it will not work, period. You think it's the controller? I don't! I think it's lingering errors from a fault like a connector coming loose and or a driver issue.
Are you still getting the prompt for the 5 hour thing? Did you clean your registry and reformat RAID 01 to clear all metadata on the drives? The drives and registry have meta data in memory from your errors, you must clear it ie; like your BIOS.
Did you put an OS on an IDE to take full control of the RAID 01 system?
Try BASIC for awhile not Dynamic and see how that runs.

The controller is working, if it didn't you wouldn't have even been able to create the RAID in the first place.

Mike :)

Whizzz AKA: SLI Scientist@Work Mar 19, 2005, 03:10pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Billy Langston

Use cpuz.exe http://www.cpuid.com/cpuz.php, and go to the SPD tab to get the manufacturers name and specs such as timing tables, we'll take it from there.

Mike :)

Billy Langston Mar 19, 2005, 03:26pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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per CPUz (slot 1 and 2 are identicle)

Manufacturer-Kingston
Bandwidth-PC3200 (200 MHz)
Correction-none
Registered-no
Buffered-no
Frequency (@ 200MHz--@166MHz--@133MHz))
CAS Lat--3.0--2.5--2.0
RAS to CAS--3--3--2
RAS Precharge--3--3--2
TRas--8--7--6

thanks again for the help :)
-Billy-


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