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Kariage Kun Mar 21, 2005, 09:10am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Asus A8N-SLI FAQ
Hi marco matteucci,

You're having the same problem as Dan S and he fixed the problem (back on page 70s) by reinstalling windows and drivers (he did a lot of reinstallation and unfortunately he forgot what he did).... He said nVidia firewall currently have issues and 6.53 doesnt resolve this issue... so what I would suggest is uninstall 6.39 and nVidia Firewall (leave the display driver alone :))... next install 6.53 UNCHECK Audio driver and IDE driver and DONT INSTALL the firewall...

if that doesnt work, Reinstall windows and begin by installing Marvell Yukon ethernet driver first (if you use it) and then nForce 6.53 (remember UNCEHCK Audio driver and IDE driver and DONT INSTALL the firewall)... STOP here (don't install any drivers) and run your favorite P2P see if you still have the BSOD...

Hope this will help you :)

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Kariage Kun Mar 21, 2005, 09:23am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Hi C KL,

yes it will as long as you dont get the positve and negative for your IDE LED connector switched around :)

Mikkel Hvam Mar 21, 2005, 11:09am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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I have just bought the a8n-sli non-deluxe motherboard and it works great. But I am having problems with my Kingston value 3200 ram. (KVR400X64C3AK2/IG). They just don't work. i have plugged in 512 2700 kingston and they work. But as soon I use my dual kit 2x512 package it just wont work. I can only enter the bios.
On the first page, you refer to aus website to upgrade the bios, which might solve the problem. But it is the deluxe version... is it safe to flash with the deluxe bios upgrade?

jdr Mar 21, 2005, 12:58pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Mike (SLI Scientist),

Just a note to let you know that with the help of your instructions (way back in the 50s), a friend and I were able to hook my pci-express card up to the 8 pin connector on my Antec EPS12V 550. Some cut up motherboard power connectors and heatshrink did the trick -- thanks for your help.

PETER PALAITIS Mar 21, 2005, 01:29pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Why is everybody uninstalling 6.39 before installing 6.53? I've never made it a practice to uninstall drivers before updating them, have always just updated overtop and never had any problems doing so. It would seem to me you're risking more problems by uninstalling the old drivers first. Has anyone done an in-place upgrade, installing the 6.53 drivers without removing 6.39 first? I'm at a loss as to why that would not be the better plan, and why so many seem to be doing the opposite.

David Gorton Mar 21, 2005, 01:53pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Galandil, I have tried to get two SATA to IDE converters to work with this motherboard also and they cause problems. The system will hang and the drives do not go as fast as they should. I have gotten blue screens and everything. So it isn't just you, those controllers worked fine on my last motherboard. Even if I try to use them on my DVD drive I still have problems with hangs and stuff, I remove the controller and I don't.

I am also having problems with RAID since I can't use the SATA converters I have to use the IDE connectors and when I raid using them the drives are slower than they should be and the RAID even lost configuration so it wouldn't boot unless I disabled the RAID.
I couldn't get it to convert to Dynamic has I would loss the partition table I did originally have them Dynamic when I set the drives up from scratch. I had an extra drive then though that I don't have now. Either way, Dynamic or Basic I still had slow down problems and it just didn't feel right. I checked my old system that isn't in my possition as my mother has it, and the raid works fine and is getting much greater though put. SANDRA reports in RAID on the old Gigabyte motherboard has around 34 to 38 mb/sec while on this A8N it is only 20 to 23 in raid mode but 40 to 45 in non raid mode. I don't have SATA to see if this is still a problem as the SATA controllers don't work. I do because those controllers do not work have s DVD burner drive set has Slave and another IDE HD set as slave on both IDE cables.
If anyone knows what is going on that would be nice. I though the NVidia IDE and SATA functions were suppose to be much faster than VIA's but so far it is definitely not the case. IDE raid isn't really functional from what I can see unless I did something wrong setting it up.

Alkemyst Darkened Mar 21, 2005, 02:11pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Edited: Mar 21, 2005, 02:14pm EST

 
>> Re: Asus A8N-SLI FAQ
RMAing my A8N-SLI, purchased a K8N Neo4 Platinum/SLI 2nd day to alleviate the problem of ASUS taking 5-10 days once they recieve the motherboard to repair (they don't have any cross-ship deal, they will repair the current motherboard and only issue another repaired board should the original board be unrepairable).

Once I get some benchmarks and tests done on the K8N, that will determine which gets sold off.


galandil@fastwebnet.it Mar 21, 2005, 02:20pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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David, with your answer I'm near sure that there must be some kind of issue between the A8N SLI and the Seriller interface. Tried everything, no way to let it function properly.

I solved only removing 1 CD-ROM Drive, putting the IDE HD on the IDE connector and using only my Caviar on the SATA connectors.

However it's a real shame that they provided EIGHT SATA connectors and they couldn't be used in conjuction with the Seriller interface. I hope this is a problem that can be solved by a new BIOS release. :)

marco matteucci Mar 21, 2005, 04:59pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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dear Kariage Kun,

this morning I tried 6.53 driver and, in brief, they didn't solved p2p problems: emule still keep crashing as soon as it reach 20 Kp/s or more speed (download).
BSOD that appears has the same writings than 6.39.
Thanks for your tips, but I just resolved this issue simply deactivating Nvidia Firewall and swithcing my ethernet connection to the port under marvell chip.
Now I am running a stable system using Agnitium Outpost Firewall but obiviously this doesn't make me happy because I cannot use Nvidia Access Manager (and consequently Harware Firewall)!

Here I wish to post another observation that I will be happy someone else could confirm....

Nvidia Firewall and 6.53 (I didn' test under my previous 6.39 driver) seems to cause a CPU usage that reach peaks of 90% while running emule in background full downloading!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Using Marvell NIC+Nvidia Firewall disabled+Win XP SP2 firewall caused CPU to reach at the most 5%!!!
Moreover, Marvell+Nvidia Firewall disabled+Agnitium Outpost Pro v.2.5 caused a CPU usage between 5 and 10% (but keep in mind that Outpost is completely another kind of firewall respect SP2 one expecially in terms of additional services running in background).

can anyone delucidate such a difference in CPU load????
If so Nvidia Firewall and other hardware stuff of this chipset really miss their goal: instead of saving CPU colocks they keep CPU under load still in semi-IDLE conditions!!!!
So, in addition to stability issues running p2p software, this is another valid reason to not use nvidia access manager.

thanks to everyone for the attention.

finty mcneice Mar 21, 2005, 05:51pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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If I am not running Graphics cards in SLi do I connect the power to the special motherboard connector or the regular one on the card?

Rory Witham Mar 21, 2005, 06:41pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Edited: Mar 21, 2005, 06:42pm EST

 
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I have a clocking issue the FX55 Has arrived and well its not really what i would call performing, the 3200 seamed to work alot better infact there was a performance drop...

I decided to update the bios and drivers to see if it would fix the minor issues, but the FSB will not seam to handle any speeds what so ever, over 2.860 or the usual 10% standard the system becomes very unstable.
I am running DDR500 @400 but this seams to be a issue in its self.

I have had to push the Vcore to 1.6V just to get a boot up, but the failure is just like a RAM issue, the ram went faster with the 3200 so I cant really see this being a issue that the ram willl not run the speeds I want it to, but the system refuses to run it.

I really want to hit 3.0 Ghz or even 3.1Ghz I have water cooling so there should not be any issues with heat and I had already clocked one to a +665Mhz with a 2.65Ghz from the 3200 Winnie

Anyone had any issues with the newer bioses??

anyone think I may have a fake FX55??
I cannot run the RAM @ full speed of it crashes.


Any helps or tips would be very helpful


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Rory Witham Mar 21, 2005, 06:56pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Edited: Mar 21, 2005, 07:52pm EST

 
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Finty - Both..


I just Ran SLI mode with ot issue
http://arc.aquamark3.com/arc/arc_view.php?run=1830635380

I will carry on testing the system, but im keeping up with 6800GTs soon to overtake them


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Mike Weitsen Mar 21, 2005, 08:22pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Mikkel Hvam,

I have the same type of RAM as you do (but have the deluxe M/B and 4x 512MB)

It works fine here.... Did you set any timings on it? I set the timings out to DDR400 and Auto for everything else and benchmarked it and then set the timings for 3-3-3-8/2T and benched again, with it being slower the 2nd time around.

Check your memory settings and let us know what you've got.

The Other Mike (TOM)

OldeCrow R Mar 22, 2005, 12:50am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Nvidia Firewall fix:

For those of you who are having nvidia firewall stability issues take a look in Administrative tools--Component Services--DCOM Config right click on app_filter select properties click on the security tab. There is a problem with the DCOM permissions for app_filter.

I cant remember what i did to fix it exactly but i think i had to add SYSTEM to the user list and make sure it had local launch local activation permissions and local acces permissions and full control, read, special permissions in configuration permissions ..

When i update the drivers to 6.53 it will reset the permissions again durring the firewall setup so ill get some screenshots of the way it is now working and the way it is on a fresh install of the firewall..

This fix may make the firewall vulnerable to attack in some way, im not an expert on DCOM stuff so im not sure what permissions actually need to be changed and what can be left alone maybe ill take some time to experiment with it and see..

If anyone else is interested in experimenting with this all i did was try to copy similar DCOM permissions from some other system level DCOM item.

It seems to have fixed the stability problems on my system, Ive been running the firewall on the nvidia nic since i set the machine up in January.

Pat Hayes Mar 22, 2005, 01:35am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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I've been following this thread for a little while. Based on what I've been reading is it safe to assume the following

1) sli mode and multiple monitors is not working yet?

2) maxtor sata drives do not work on this motherboard, well, at least the nforce controller

3) the larger the power supply the less likely you are to have problems....it appears alot of people are trying to get by with the bear minimum power supplies ......more power is better, never scrounge on power supplies and heat quality.

Note - I do have a stable running setup using a8n-sli deluxe. Raid on the SIL controller seems to be more reliable to me than nforce, although it has been stated nforce is faster. I'll take stable at the moment. The only thing I can't get to work is multi screen with sli and maxtor 250gig sata drive on the nforce, system hangs or locks up randomly.....(this appears to be related to maxtor and some ibm drives or people using sata converters. This makes me think the maxtor drives are converted PATA 133 drives)

Specs

Athlon 64 3500+ (I picked this because I liked the use of a smaller process, less power usage and less heat, which appears to be a concern for everyone at this point)
a8n-sli deluxe (1006)
geforce 6800 (non gt and non ultra) - just bought 2 of these, seemed this would be faster than 2 6600gt's ....was this a bad idea?)
memory is Kingston - i don't recall which one though - works very well though
2 x WD 80 gig raid 0 on SIL
adaptec 2940uw pci - jaz drive connected - when in doubt keep a reliable scsi drive around with all ur important stuff on it :)

P.S. I haven't even tried overclocking or anything like that ....I used to spent alot of time oc'ing going back to the days of amd k5's and Dual celeron 366's oc'd to 550 on an ABIT BP6. People mention unstable and buggy bios' now......rofl.....the bp6 was really buggy at first. Of course it was the most overclocked board in the history of oc'ing. ;)

Thanks for all the posts.....was fun to read

Robert louis Mar 22, 2005, 01:35am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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hi

my system was running ok with 1 hard drive.
but i wanted to put them in raid mode 0.

so i went out and got myself aother 200GB sata seagate harddrive.
now i have 2 x 200gb sata harddrives

i enabled RAID in bios
i set up everything in stripe (raid 0) (by pressing f10 after the post boot)

now i tried to install windows xp pro
i booted from the windows xp cd
everything works fine.
windows xp setup detects two hard drives.
i selected to install windows on the first hard drive
after setup copied all the neccessary setup files
it reboots.

the screen comes up with this message
"A disk read error occred"
press ctrl+alt+del"
i pressed ctrl+alt+del, it restarts and still same error over and over.

what must i do to fix it?

Pat Hayes Mar 22, 2005, 01:42am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Windows should never detect 2 drives if Raid is setup properly. Did you use the Nvidia nforce utility during post to configure the drives in a raid? it looks like you did.
Did you press f6 during the initial BLUE SCREEN phase of the xp install, and install the nforce driver disk. If you did not do this, the raid drives will appears as 2 drives in windows during the first phase of windows installation. Check to make sure you have used the mobo driver disk to create yourself a raid driver disk using the makedisk feature...
note.....it cannot be done on another pc that does not use nforce hardware.....u have to go into the driver folder on the cd and manually run it. Note, a8n-sli has 2 raid controllers ....make sure you use the proper one for which controller you are using ....i.e. SIL for SIL and nforce for the others.

Hope that helps...

Alkemyst Darkened Mar 22, 2005, 08:50am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Rory advertizing a computer shop so much here you should realize there are no guarantees in overclocking, more often than not lower scale chips can be pushed farther to the limits (limitation is actually based on the core of the chip, which the manufacturer then locks in at levels dependant on average output of the current yield).

I have a 3200+ that hits 3700+, there is another guy on a forum with a 3500+ that can't be pushed at all past 3600 something.

If your FX55 is running right at stock speeds and the 3200+ is running OC'd on the same setup. You either are low on power or it's running as designed.


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>> Re: Asus A8N-SLI FAQ
Robert Louis described basically the same problem I am having, only I was attempting to install Win2kPro on my new A8N-SLI Deluxe-based system yesterday.

Quote:
"i enabled RAID in bios
i set up everything in stripe (raid 0) (by pressing f10 after the post boot)

now i tried to install windows xp pro
i booted from the windows xp cd
everything works fine.
windows xp setup detects two hard drives.
i selected to install windows on the first hard drive
after setup copied all the neccessary setup files
it reboots.

the screen comes up with this message
"A disk read error occred"
press ctrl+alt+del"
i pressed ctrl+alt+del, it restarts and still same error over and over."


It _appears_ to me that my RAID is configured correctly, too. The NVRAID reports a 138GB striped array (two WD740GD drives); the Win2k disc boots properly; I press F6 & attempt to add in the RAID driver, but it must not take because Setup still lists two seperate physical drives for me too; then Setup copies files just fine, but when I reboot I get the message "NTLDR is missing" (heh, never good to see).

However, I did make my driver diskette on a different PC. So the only thing left for me to try is what Pat Hayes mentioned: make the disk on the PC I'm going to use it in. I never would have thought of that; I sure hope that is the solution. I'll boot into my new PC today & find/run MAKEDISK.EXE and report back here.

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Edited: Mar 22, 2005, 10:04am EST

 
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Pat Hayes said:

"2) maxtor sata drives do not work on this motherboard, well, at least the nforce controller"

Not true, I'm running 2X Maxtor 300 GB in a RAID 1 on the Nvidia controller with (knock on wood) no problems so far (BIOS 1006). I think there may be problems with Maxtor DiamondMax 9 drives however (though I think read somewhere that this may be solved by a upgrading the firmware of the drive -- but you have to call Maxtor to get it).

The drives that work:
http://www.newegg.com/app/viewProductDesc.asp?description=22-1...amp;depa=1


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