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C P Mar 27, 2005, 11:34am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Asus A8N-SLI FAQ
ok i figured out the 2nd repair option. running it now.

after this point, which drivers should i reinstall, if any?

getting there slowly....

thanks

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Edited: Mar 27, 2005, 11:40am EST

 
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C P

Check you Device Manager for problems after the repair. Try safe mode again and remove any errors in the device manager. Hopefully you can get into safe mode now if the repair helped.
Mike :)

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Edited: Mar 27, 2005, 11:39am EST

 
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Ok Mike Enjoy!

but i think i have some other issues and may need to reinstall.

i went thru the repair process and i still get the continous reboot.

it seems the repair didn't take.

And Thanks for all the help!

jdr Mar 27, 2005, 11:43am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Rebuilding a RAID... How? I had a RAID 1 array that needs to be rebuilt.

I did some work on my case yesterday, which involved puliing out my mobo. When I put it back in and booted, I got a CMOS error and all my BIOS settings were automatically reset.

I accidently hit F1 instead of DEL and booted into Windows. Shutdown, booted into BIOS settings, enabled RAID, and rebooted. NTLDR not found.

If I disable RAID, I can boot into Windows, but I see 4 drives. If I enable RAID in the BIOS so I can rebuild them with Nvidia's RAID manager, I can't boot. WTF do I do?


How do I rebuild my array?

C P Mar 27, 2005, 11:51am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Edited: Mar 27, 2005, 11:58am EST

 
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Jamison

are you using Nvidia Raid or Sil Raid.

verify that. then disble the one you are not using and enable the one you are using.

dont rebuild til you're sure.

you should then find NTLDR.

CP

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I would edit my original post, but I can't seem to find a way to log in without replying....

I'm using nvraid. SI raid is diabled.

If I enable nvraid and boot, NTLDR not found. Windows refuses to read my boot array prperly. As I said, if I disable nvraid, Windows boots fine, but I have four drives, and the nvidia RAID manager doesn't work.

C P Mar 27, 2005, 12:14pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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did you try to disable nvraid and enable sil raid just to be sure?

after that i would wait for mike to come back to answer the rest.


C P Mar 27, 2005, 12:17pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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also there should be a login url on the top left of this page.

Guido MTB Mar 27, 2005, 12:55pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Edited: Mar 27, 2005, 12:58pm EST

 
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edit: I've done some more research on the internet and it seems that the problems I have were solved by a few people. What they did was either connect the maxtor drive to the silicon sataport or flash the MBbios to 1002. I've read that the siliconports are slower than the nvidia ones so that is no option. Flashing the bios is an option don't you think?
>>>Yes, this statement is correct, some have had no luck on the NV with this drive and it works on SiL. I wouldn't use 1002 though, use 1004.

=== Why 1004 and not 1002?

I could also try the latest beta bios. Is the consequence of flashing the MBbios that the Nforcedrivers will be destroyed?
>>>Start from scratch again, BIOS 1004, use your CD drivers, and use 66.93 video drivers for now, just until you get things stable. Full format and please use makedisk.exe for the Sil from your cd to a formatted floppy!!!

=== You mean the nforce drivers from the Asus cd? Aren't these very old? And what do you mean by "full format? format c: /q ? I thought that if I went to an older MBbios that I than could keep using the faster NvidiaSATAport and not use the Silports (?)

Guido

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Edited: Mar 27, 2005, 02:53pm EST

 
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Rebuilding my mirrored system drive...

OK, so I seem to have figured it out. All in the BIOS Raid manager: I deleted the array, recreated the array, and then rebuilt the array. The trick was guessing which drive to rebuild from. I rebuild from one: NTLDR error; I choose the other: Windows loads.

The windows RAID manager says "Mirroring" right now, so I guess it's working.

Things that suck:
1) No instructions on how to do this anywhere that I can see.
2) No indication in the BIOS utility as to which disk I should rebuild from (space used, or something would have been useful).

Thanks to the Nvidia gods for not wiping out all of my data when I initially chose the wrong drive to rebuild from....

David Gorton Mar 27, 2005, 03:08pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Guido,
In one of the forums they are stating that you can get a rom flash for those maxtor NCQ drives to allow them to work. You have to contact Maxtor and percist that there is nothing wrong with the motherboard if they ask but they will from what i hear send you a flash for the rom. Also if that is a single drive the SIL controller will not slow the drive down. Technically even if you are doing a RAID 0 with two of those driver it shouldn't slow it down unless each single drive is capiable of more than 75mb/sec. Still the NVRaid is more convenient has the SIL can save IRQ's and DMA bandwidth if you can disable in and not use it.
GLUCK

Ed Allen Mar 27, 2005, 03:31pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Edited: Mar 27, 2005, 08:23pm EST

 
>> Re: Asus A8N-SLI FAQ
Excellent FAQ and forum discussion.
Wish I had found and read it before flashing my BIOS. Since flashing, my system is not recognizing the HD to boot from, though it does show up in BIOS.

System setup:
AMD 3500+ (older core)
2 x 512 MB Crucial Ballistix 3200
ASUS AN8-SLI Deluxe purchased in early January from Newegg with original BIOS going into this flash, I forget what version, probably 1001?
Antex Truepower 550
2 x Chaintech GForce 6600GT cards
WD 74 GB Raptor on NV SATA 1 , using SATA power connector, factory jumper setting
Maxtor 300 GB (6B300S0) on NV SATA 2, using SATA power connector
2 x Sony DVD/CD rewritable drives IDE 1 Master and Slave
crap floppy drive
Windows XP Home

Yes, I know a few of these choices were not optimal, but this is the first real gamer PC I have built, and a learning experience. It had been running OK, with the rare surprise restart problem. I had no luck with using the ASUS provided minor overclocking but backed it off since I didn't really know wat I ws doing with OCing and it was has been stable. Haven't ever tried overclocking the video cards yet.

It seemed to me like time to get the BIOS up to date and install new video drivers, get better compatibility with games that have issues with SLI like Pirates, etc, so I started with the BIOS this morning.

I used the GUI BIOS flash utility provided by ASUS to flash to 1006. Flash seemed to go okay until I did the reboot and then I get a short, loud chugging noise from the HDs and hit the "DISK BOOT FAILURE, INSERT SYSTEM DISK AND PRESS ENTER" error. The disks do show up as First and second SATA master disks in the boot messages:
SATA Master 1 LBA, SATA 1, 74 GB
SATA Master 2 LBA, SATA 1, 300 GB

The chugging sound it made was reminiscent of the sound it made when I had trouble initially when I originally set up, with the SATA cables reversed so that the drive I wanted as C: was on SATA 2 and for awhile at first I needed to boot with the Windows CD to get around that and boot into C:. But I haven't heard it for a couple months since sorting that cabling issue out.

Being an incautious idiot, I did not save the old BIOS first while doing this.

Some things I have tried unsuccessfully to fix it:

Poring over the manual.
Resetting the BIOS settings to default.
Changed the boot order to various alternatives like HD first, CD first.
Removing the battery and clearing the CMOS with the jumper.
Changing the SATA cables to the other raid controller.
Putting the SATA cables back and turning off the SIL raid controller as recommended in the manual.
Generally poking around the BIOS setup looking for what might be set wrong, without success.
The manual mentions that you have to have the right SATA drive settings for the disk to be recognized, but I read somewhere else that changing the SATA drive settings on the WD boot disk from AUTO to LARGE is not a good idea, so I left that as is. Both Extended Drive and Acccess Mode remain as AUTO.


Booting from the Windows XP install CD, and entering the repair console, it does see the WD 74 as disk C and I can DIR and see files. Haven't done more than that non-destructive exploration so far.

I went into fixmbr from the repair console after booting again from the Windows CD and it says I have a nonstadard or damaged(I forget the exact wording) master boot record on C: (the 74). I backed out of actually having it change the MBR, want to do some backing up first and wait for feedback from here before I take that step.

C P Mar 27, 2005, 04:32pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Edited: Mar 27, 2005, 08:25pm EST

 
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Mike,

well i had to rebuild. but all is well after the rebuild.

i still have a problem with the ntune.
can you resend the file to the @ceigroup.com address? there was a receiving limit that i just removed. you should be ok now.

also i tried to oc based on your guide and i wasn't sure which choices to make on some. i.e. 2.5,3, 3, 6. not sure which options that applies to.

btw i ran 3dmark pro and got a score of 6100+. i believe that sux. LOL.

one other thing; i am now getting a vertical bar about 1/4 inch and a horizontal line in any game i play.

thanks,
CP

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Edited: Mar 28, 2005, 05:29pm EST

 
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EDIT: This was originally a question about missing higher multipliers in the BIOS, i hadnt realised that A64's were multiplier locked above the stock multiplier.

One question and answer that might still be relevant:

"1. The system drive on the PC in question is 2x250GB Hitachi 7K250 running striped(RAID0) on the nvidia controller. OS and various software is already installed, and a reinstallation is not something id like to do, will the BIOS update cause problems with the RAID drive in any way?"

I performed the update, which also affected the NVRAID BIOS, but it didnt seem to cause any problems. Would have been rather unfortunate if it did, but you never know!

Whizzz AKA: SLI Scientist@Work Mar 27, 2005, 10:46pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Guido MTB

edit: I've done some more research on the internet and it seems that the problems I have were solved by a few people. What they did was either connect the maxtor drive to the silicon sataport or flash the MBbios to 1002. I've read that the siliconports are slower than the nvidia ones so that is no option. Flashing the bios is an option don't you think?
>>>Yes, this statement is correct, some have had no luck on the NV with this drive and it works on SiL. I wouldn't use 1002 though, use 1004.

=== Why 1004 and not 1002
>>>Same BIOS with a few extra options but not as Fu*(*^(*&%^_up as 1006 or beta's OK! I trust them for testing till stability is achieved.

I could also try the latest beta bios. Is the consequence of flashing the MBbios that the Nforcedrivers will be destroyed?
>>>Start from scratch again, BIOS 1004, use your CD drivers, and use 66.93 video drivers for now, just until you get things stable. Full format and please use makedisk.exe for the Sil from your cd to a formatted floppy!!!

=== You mean the nforce drivers from the Asus cd?
>>>Yes

Aren't these very old?
>>>What's old, a few months? Common! I trust them for testing till stability is achieved.

And what do you mean by "full format? format c: /q ?
>>>Yes not a quick during windows install, you are asking me basic 101 questions here.

I thought that if I went to an older MBbios that I than could keep using the faster NvidiaSATAport and not use the Silports (?)
>>>It should work on both.

Mike


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C P

Disable load balancing in the same window that you enable SLI.

Mike

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Edited: Mar 27, 2005, 11:17pm EST

 
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disabling LB did the trick.

p.s. - did the load balancing have anything to do with the low 3dmark score of 6100 that i received after i ran it?

James Dean Mar 27, 2005, 11:49pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Hi Mike, Thanks for your reply. I tried to flash both video card bioses with the same bios that came with the card, and still cannot get games to work with SLI. I also did a bunch of other things, tried older driver (used driver cleaner), upgraded to 1007_3 beta mobo bios, then back to 1006, upgraded from 71.84 to 71.90 to 66.93 and back to 71.90, disabled/reduced hardware acceleration, disabled write combining. The problem remains: When I enable SLI and run Far Cry, after the initial logos/advertisements, the PC freezes, and then I get a blue screen after maybe 15 seconds or so, then it reboots automatically. When i get back into Windows, I get a message:

"Computer restarted after an unexpected shutdown. Microsoft Windows detected a possible device failure. The driver for the display device was unable to complete a drawing operation. Please check with the device manufacturer for a driver update......The display driver for NVIDIA GeForce 6600 GT seems to be responsible for the system instability."

Then when i open up the error report i find this:

"Error signature: szAppName : Drivers.Display szAppVer : 10DE0140A22A20107D
szModName : nv4_disp.dll szModVer : 6.14.10.7190 Offset : D12106EA"

When i go to open up the Error report contents i find:

"
//
// Watchdog Event Log File
//

LogType: Watchdog
Created: 2005-03-27 13:22:19
TimeZone: 300 - Eastern Standard Time
WindowsVersion: XP
EventType: 0xEA - Thread Stuck in Device Driver

//
// The driver for the display device got stuck in an infinite loop. This
// usually indicates a problem with the device itself or with the device
// driver programming the hardware incorrectly. Please check with your
// display device vendor for any driver updates.
//

ShutdownCount: 115
Shutdown: 0
EventCount: 9
BreakCount: 9
BugcheckTriggered: 1
DebuggerNotPresent: 1
DriverName: nv4_disp
EventFlag: 1
DeviceClass: Display
DeviceDescription: NVIDIA GeForce 6600 GT
HardwareID: PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0140&SUBSYS_2A20107D&REV_A2
Manufacturer: NVIDIA
DriverFixedFileInfo: FEEF04BD 00010000 0006000E 000A1C16 0006000E 000A1C16 0000003F 00000008 00040004 00000003 00000004 00000000 00000000
DriverCompanyName: NVIDIA Corporation
DriverFileDescription: NVIDIA Compatible Windows 2000 Display driver, Version 71.90
DriverFileVersion: 6.14.10.7190
DriverInternalName: nv4_disp.dll
DriverLegalCopyright: (C) NVIDIA Corporation. All rights reserved.
DriverOriginalFilename: nv4_disp.dll
DriverProductName: NVIDIA Compatible Windows 2000 Display driver, Version 71.90
DriverProductVersion: 6.14.10.7190
"

Doing a google search on this error shows that i am certainly not the only one getting it !

For example:

http://members.home.nl/marf/Infinite%20Loop.html

But what i understood is that this error can be caused by a lot of things and on a lot of problems, so maybe it doesnt tell us much.

At one point, when i started Far Cry, the upper half of the screen was drawn and the lower half was garbled...hmm could it be that the second video card is defective and wont work in SLI?

AMD ATHLON 64 3500+ S939 PROCESSOR NEWCASTLE 2.2GHZ
ASUS A8N-SLI DELUXE MOTHERBOARD NFORCE4-SLI
2x LEADTEK WINFAST PX6600GT TDH 128MB DDR3 PCI EXPRESS
CORSAIR VALUE SELECT DUAL CHANNEL 1024MB KIT PC3200 DDR CAS2.5 2X512MB
2x WD RAPTOR 36GB HARD DRIVE SATA 10000RPM
ANTEC 1080 PERFORMANCE PLUS CHASSIS 4X5.25IN 6X3.5IN 430W
WIN XP PRO (i have not installed SP2)

Waiting to hear from you Mike..thanks a lot.
g


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Setup is a follows:
AMD 3500+
A8N-SLI Deluxe board (Flashed 1006)
Turbo-Cool 510 SLI
XFX 6800GT 256MB
1 MB Corsair (2x512) RAM
x2 Seagate 80MB SATA
x1 Western Digital 250 MB SATA
Plextor 716A DVDRW
1.44 Floppy

I am having incredible difficuly attempting to install the 2 Seagates in a RAID 0 configuration. I've searched high and low for answers across numerous websites to no avail. I am hoping to find some help here.

Please note, during each install I have carefully followed the setup from Page 1 of this forum, and cleared the
CMOS (jumper and battery removal + cup of coffee) and flashed the 1006 driver on boot-up. The 2 Seagates are connected to the Nvidia SATA 1 and 2 slots, the WD250 is in the Nvidia SATA 3 slot. Each install all drives are listed. The Silicon Image 3114 controller is disabled.

Summary of the problems I am encountering:

To start with the NVidia Nforce 4 Series Motherboard Disk is unreadable. Tried to get it to work from the /bin/assetup.exe file. No go. Tried burning to a new CD with Nero (including the .img file) Still wont load. Think I managed a workaround and was able to download the nvidia raid files from a board (nv4ide_0506_xp2k-1.zip). So theoretically I have the raid drivers available on a floppy.Any suggestions on obtaining a running copy of the mobo support CD?

The biggest problem is the floppy drive is not being recognized during the Win XP install so I am unable to load the raid driver files. The floppy and cable are working correctly, I checked and rechecked the cable and changed both the floppy drive and the cable out. (It worked during one install early on so i know it works). The drive lights and grinds away for a moment and thats it. Some kind of conflict?

Solutions I have tried (three stages):
1. Installed the WD250 solo. Installed XP. Floppy exists on 'My Computer' doesnt read (with a disk in it, just
grinds away and says 'Please insert a floppy...'), the Plextor isnt recognized either (but didnt really try to load the drivers for it in the hardware setup)

2. Kept the WD250 (as boot) and added the 2 Seagates and attempted to add in the raid. I was able to view the raid in the Nvidia Win XP utility (in XP), but they did not show up listed in 'My Computer'.

3. Disconnected the WD250, and then attepted to setup the 2 Seagates in RAID 0 (as the boot). CMOS set correctly (Silicon Image Disabled, Nvidia Enabled (1 and 2) etc.) On boot up (after clearing the CMOS) - the CMOS sees the 2 Seagate drives,I set up the Raid in the nvidia raid setup utility and it shows a happy healthy Raid 0.

Enter the Win XP install...

I am using the SP2 Slipstream (http://www.winsupersite.com/showcase/windowsxp_sp2_slipstream.asp). All goes well until it asks for the raid driver, then the floppy drive just grinds away and doesnt read the disk (also tried disconnecting the floppy and installing the drivers to a CD). If I continue past that point (and just skip that section) On rebooting, when I check the CMOS, both Seagate drives are missing from the CMOS setup. Thats when I get the invalid disk error...

Questions:
1. Any way to get a downloadable version of the nvidia mobo support CD? (nothing on the asus website) Am I ok with the raid drivers I downloaded?

2. Any suggestions on how to get the floppy drive working during the install? Possible conflicts?

3. How can I get the Raid 0 Working? Any success stories?

Thank you in advance.

P.S. Also a separate but related question. My understanding is that x2 80 MB HDD in Raid 0 *should* show up as an 80 MB logical drive right? In the nvidia raid setup screen it shows a healthy raid of ~160MB. Is that right?

Douglas

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>> Re: Asus A8N-SLI FAQ
Thanks for your reply Mike.

>>>When you say you changed the video card, do you mean a PCI slot video card?: Yes have one old pci video card and it runs fine in one of my pc:s (I also had this video card in A8N until my 6800 arrived).

>>>Do you just have one PCI E video card?: Only one Asus Nvidia 6800 PCI E and the EZ selector is set to singel (i have also tried dual byt no go).

First i got beeps when i have no memory installed but no the board is silent.

I did everything that Sander Sassen very nice guide wrote. And it worked perfect until windows crached several days after.

First and the second time i cleared the bios (cmos) the lady said something but I never could hear what she said but I do not think it was any from the post messages in the manual (it was a long message).

Any ideas?

Asus A8N-SLI Deluxe
Amd 3500+
Kingston 400ddr valueram (2x512Mb dualchannel)
Asus 6800 (vanilla)
Soundblaster Player 1024 (workes fine in my old computer)
2xSeagate 7200.8 250Gb
Asus DVD and 3,5"
Neopower 480
Bios: 1006


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