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Guido MTB Mar 28, 2005, 06:13am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Edited: Mar 28, 2005, 06:39am EST

 
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Hi Mike and David,

This is what I've done: (BTW I hadn't read your latest posts when I did all this)

- formatting the HD with Fdisk (since it was NTFS i couldn't just use the format option on the prompt)
- flash the bios to 1004 (it was 1002 before because I had already flashed it before you said 1004 is beter)
- configure the new bios (btw it locks up when I open sliconfig/slimode, if I don't open this menu everything is fine. I think this is because my previous choice in this menu isn't available in this version, but as I don't use SLI I don't think this is a problem)
- Install windows XP Pro incl SP2
- Windows firewall off
- reboot (2 times the blue bar), nforece 6.53 installed (incl ide sw drivers and access manager (excl firewall)) (immediately tried to put NCQ off but this wasn't possible yet
- reboot (16 times the blue bar), when I tried to get into the config menu I got an error (probably because I tried to do this before the reboot)
- reboot (3 times the blue bar), everything goes fine, put NCQ off in config screen (in my previous installs of windows I hadn't turned NCQ off by the way)
- reboot (4 times the blue bar), partitioned the rest of the HD using diskmanagement(d: and e:, both NTFS ) everything OK
- reboot (3 times the blue bar), install forceware 71.84
- reboot (4 times the blue bar), everything OK
- reboot (4 times the blue bar), installed 3dmark 2005
- reboot (4 times the blue bar), changed pagefile to 2048 MB (fixed size)
- reboot (4 times the blue bar), run 3dmark2005 score: 3981
- reboot (4 times the blue bar), installed 3dmark 2001,
- reboot (4 times the blue bar), run 3dmark 2001 score: 18871
- reboot (2 times the blue bar), HD Tach installed: burst 138 MB/s, average: 48 MB/s, changed some configurations (i.e. taskbar options etc. What's strange is that I now have options that I didn't have before like the option to turn off the listing of recently opened files in the startmenu list. I missed this option in my previous install but then I had installed Powertoys Tweak UI prior to configurating this. Now I'm a bit put off installing tweak ui, but there are some options in that program I really like: what to do?)
- reboot (2 times the blue bar), installed some small programs like winrar, winamp and foxit pdf reader.
- reboot (2 times the blue bar), using winamp (dvdpalyer behaves a bit weird, when first using it to copy some files to the HD it goes very slow. After ejecting and trying again it does work ok (maybe the disc isn't great) (haven't had any troubles with this again) (can the cause for this be that I used the 80 conductor cable that was meant for a HD to connect the dvd to the primary connector on the MB? I also got a cd'dvd cable with the MB but when I used that it said "no 80conductor cable installed" during booting)
- reboot (2 times the blue bar), everything works fine, made a system restore point
- reboot (2 times the blue bar),

So it seems everything is fine don't you guys think? I'm going to test the system with 3dmark2003 and than try some games. I'm really don't want to put drivers on it that I don't really need so I haven't tried any other programs or drivers than the ones I listed above. Do I need others (besides videodrivers like divx/ ffdshow etc) for example there are usbdrivers on the asus disc, do I need them to use my usb ports? I currently dont use any usbdevices and haven't usen the usbstick since the last time I did that everything started to malfunction!

About that Maxtor bios: I read that as well, I'll contact Maxtor about this.

Any further suggestions/ answers to my question above?


I hope this post is also usefull to other people with these kind of problems

btw I read (a part of) the XP Tweakguide and it says that I should turn the pagefile off, reboot, and than turn it back on to get a full block on the HD and not have it scatterd across the HD. I want to do this but I'm a bit scared it wont boot as soon as I turn the pagefile off (I'm so happy it's working properly now and I dont want to f*** it all up again :) )

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Dan Dymek Mar 28, 2005, 06:35am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>Just thought I would mention something that I noticed. I was reading the MOBO manual and I realized that >that the A8N-SLI Deluxe supports Raid 5 which is Raid 0 but with parity (Error correction). I just thought >people might want to know so they can implement this if they want to as they begin to get their systems >more and more stable. One quick question though, does any body know if the performance of the raid 5 >over raid 0 is decreased and if it is, if the loss in performance is negligible. Thanks

Not really the scope of this thread. Search google for RAID5 vs RAID0 and you should have plenty of info available. That said, for most the advantage of a RAID should be reserved for data integrity rather than performance (and as such you will take a slight performance hit in practice).

good luck

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>> SKYSTAR 2
Hi, somebody have a DVB-S Skystar 2? I have a lot of problems when try to install that card. Bblue screen of the death -> MACHINE_CHECK_EXCEPTION 0x0000009c. I tried to change PCI slot, change drivers, disable ethernet, firewire, etc...

Somebody have that card working in an ASUS A8N SLI DELUXE bios 1007-3?

Thanks.

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Douglas Spence:

"The biggest problem is the floppy drive is not being recognized during the Win XP install so I am unable to load the raid driver files. The floppy and cable are working correctly, I checked and rechecked the cable and changed both the floppy drive and the cable out. (It worked during one install early on so i know it works). The drive lights and grinds away for a moment and thats it. Some kind of conflict?"

I believe lots of people have gotten nvidia RAID 0 to work -- I'm running two RAID 1 arrays myself.

This is probably a long shot, but I also had trouble initially with my floppy drive working. It turned out that my Lian-Li v1100 case was twisting the drive a bit when it was installed and causing it not to read any disks (tracking that down was a pain). If I took the drive out, it worked fine. Put it back in, and it would grind for 3 seconds and not recognize any floppy. Try using the floppy drive outside of your case.... It may help.

The drivers on the mobo disc should be found on the Nvidia website.


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Edited: Mar 28, 2005, 11:31am EST

 
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Just a note.

If you would like to get specific answers from within this thread and not the rest of Hardware Analysis, do the following.
You will find anything related to your problem without manually searching through 90 + pages.

1-Download Flashget, it's free! http://www.amazesoft.com/ and install it.
2-Go to http://hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/38623/
3-Right click in the FAQ section and click Download All by Flashget
4-The Select URL window will appear, in this window select file 38623 (index file page 1) and all files that resemble _o=20 (page 2) to _o=1280 (page 65) etc. and uncheck the rest. Download.
The files will end up in C:\Downloads
5-Use a file renamer software or manually add the .html extension. ie: 38623.html _o=20.html to each file.
6-Copy this folder to your desktop and rename to A8N-SLI FAQ.
7-Use Google desktop search (adjust settings - Google integration. CHECK Show Desktop Search results on Google Web Search result pages. and UN-CHECK the rest) to search the desktop and it will scan the folder and give you concise answers. get the program here http://desktop.google.com/

Good luck!

Mike :)

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Dan Dymek

I did my little Google search thing, took 1 second or so and the only thing I found was this.

Jase Dee Mar 02, 2005, 08:48 PM Message - Profile - Add Buddy - Alert Moderators



Bootable RAID5 - Working AOK
FWIW, I have 4 drives in RAID5 via the Silicon Image 3114. It is bootable, and appears to work great. I valued space and integrity over speed. It took about 36 hours to format and build the array during WinXP installation (drives crunching the whole time).

Read speed (from memory) was about 120MB / second (write speed from memory about 10-20MB) - I guess this means the 3114 has been cut back to 33mhz from it's capability to operate at 66mhz. Any way to double the PCI bus if I don't have anything else on it (haha)?

Tested the RAID5 by shutting down and unplugging a drive - no problamo and booted into windows AOK.

Only gripe is that the SiI GUI provides no feedback whatsoever on the state of the rebuild. I just get 'dripping' sounds every 5 seconds as (I assume) it does it's RAID5 magic in the background on VERY low priority. Judging on the time it took to format at "full pelt" - I feel my machine will be making dripping noises for about a month.

GUI reports the array as "Legacy" because it's bootable. It says "read the manual for more info" but there is no manual I can find.

Will post benchmarks if anyone is interested.

Mike :)

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Dan:
>Raid 0 is not used for it's data integrity, that is the whole reason why somebody invented Raid 5.

I did not state it was. I said for a workstation environment a user, if looking for using RAID, should make it for integrity and not performance. The fact is that in real-life tests I don't think there has been any proof of a performance increase shown. Benchmarks yes.

>I guess my question might have been better stated as, "Has anybody used the A8N-SLI Deluxe's Raid 5 >instead of the Raid 0 configuration, and if so have they noticed any sort of performance decrease."

That would be the question that would have bearing here. Thankfully you did a little research yourself.

Now the Silicon Image controller is based off the PCI bus, rather than integrated into the main chipset proper. It's going to take a performance hit due to that, but like I had said previously, perhaps not noticable as RAID doesn't really scale well to single users and the A8N-SLI is a terrible server motherboard.

RAID5 will have a performance decrease that is definitely measureable over 0. It is better than 0+1 in space offered, however; 0+1 is usually still the better performance choice (RAID5 has to compute parity constantly), albeit more expensive.



Russ Spry Mar 28, 2005, 11:51am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Dan,
I have Raid 5 setup with 3 WD 36 Gig Raptors. Works great and is very fast.

Russ

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Edited: Mar 28, 2005, 12:23pm EST

 
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Summary of the problems I am encountering:

To start with the NVidia Nforce 4 Series Motherboard Disk is unreadable.
>>>Can you elaborate on this a little? Can you read it on another computer? Where is it unreadable, in your somewhat crippled system?

Tried to get it to work from the /bin/assetup.exe file. No go. Tried burning to a new CD with Nero (including the .img file) Still wont load. Think I managed a workaround and was able to download the nvidia raid files from a board (nv4ide_0506_xp2k-1.zip). So theoretically I have the raid drivers available on a floppy
>>>What are the total KB's on that floppy?

.Any suggestions on obtaining a running copy of the mobo support CD?
>>>No need for this, your cd should be fine!

The biggest problem is the floppy drive is not being recognized during the Win XP install so I am unable to load the raid driver files. The floppy and cable are working correctly, I checked and rechecked the cable and changed both the floppy drive and the cable out. (It worked during one install early on so i know it works). The drive lights and grinds away for a moment and thats it. Some kind of conflict?
>>>When this happens remove the floppy and re-insert it. You may have defective floppies or write protect is on and or your wiring is not correct. I seriously doubt there is a conflict.

Solutions I have tried (three stages):
1. Installed the WD250 solo. Installed XP. Floppy exists on 'My Computer' doesnt read (with a disk in it, just
grinds away and says 'Please insert a floppy...'), the Plextor isnt recognized either (but didnt really try to load the drivers for it in the hardware setup)
>>>The Plextor drive should be picked up automatically??? The floppies, once again, could be a defective batch etc...

2. Kept the WD250 (as boot) and added the 2 Seagates and attempted to add in the raid. I was able to view the raid in the Nvidia Win XP utility (in XP), but they did not show up listed in 'My Computer'.
>>>They weren't formated yet, use windows disk manager. There are numerous posts on how to install the RAID via windows. Use the search method I mentioned and you will find the info to get those drives to work.

3. Disconnected the WD250, and then attepted to setup the 2 Seagates in RAID 0 (as the boot). CMOS set correctly (Silicon Image Disabled, Nvidia Enabled (1 and 2) etc.) On boot up (after clearing the CMOS) - the CMOS sees the 2 Seagate drives,I set up the Raid in the nvidia raid setup utility and it shows a happy healthy Raid 0.
>>>Good, you can get this to work then.

Enter the Win XP install...

I am using the SP2 Slipstream (http://www.winsupersite.com/showcase/windowsxp_sp2_slipstream.asp). All goes well until it asks for the raid driver, then the floppy drive just grinds away and doesnt read the disk
>>>You need to get to the bottom of this, go buy some new floppies. When the drives grinds, it could be wiring too, tripple check.

(also tried disconnecting the floppy and installing the drivers to a CD). If I continue past that point (and just skip that section) On rebooting, when I check the CMOS, both Seagate drives are missing from the CMOS setup. Thats when I get the invalid disk error...
>>>Of course this will happen.

Questions:
1. Any way to get a downloadable version of the nvidia mobo support CD? (nothing on the asus website) Am I ok with the raid drivers I downloaded?
>>>You have everything at your disposal now, no need for this.

2. Any suggestions on how to get the floppy drive working during the install? Possible conflicts?
>>>Gave you options on this above.

3. How can I get the Raid 0 Working? Any success stories?
>>>Fix your floppy issue, or install windows like you did and get the RAID to work from there using posts that have this info already.

Thank you in advance.
>>>You're welcome.

P.S. Also a separate but related question. My understanding is that x2 80 MB HDD in Raid 0 *should* show up as an 80 MB logical drive right? In the nvidia raid setup screen it shows a healthy raid of ~160MB. Is that right?
>>>Wrong, your drives are 80 GIGS not MB's you will also lose on the dirves, more like up to 10 GIGs or so. Two WD Raptors 74 will give about 138 Gigs.

PS - Buy a new floppy drive for 10 -15$ and a cable, at the same time you get the floppies.

Mike :)


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Don't know if you have a floppy bezel fitted but I had a similar prob with my floppy drive, swapped both the cable and the drive but it still just ground away without reading the floppy. Fault eventually traced to the Lian-li 3.5" bezel fitted to my case, this was very slightly pushing on the eject button on the drive unit therefore preventing the floppy from being read.

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>> RAID 0 setup w. WD740 GD Raptor's
Hi,

Having problems getting a RAID 0 setup installed for two WD740 GD Raptor's with my A8N-SLI Deluxe mobo.
Finally gave up and now running Win XP Home Edition and Doom3 rock solid (finally, thanks to this FAQ), but only on one HD ...
At one point I thought I was doing allright: installation all per the A8N SLI manual, created RAID driver disk with "NVIDIA RAID Class Driver"
with NVIDIA RAID utility showing me following:
Boot: No
Id: 2
Status: Healthy
Vendor NVIDIA
Array: Stripe
Model / Name: 138.49G

Array1: NVIDIA Stripe 138.94G
Raid Mode: striping
Striping width: 2
Striping Block: 128K

Adapt: 2
Channel: 0 and 1 resp.
M/S: Master (both)
Index: 0 and 1 resp.
Disk: WDC
Model: WD740GD-00FLA1
Capacity: 69.24 GB (both)

Hangs on PCI Device Listing page.
Hardly any files on the drives, Windows has not been installed properly.

Anyone have a (preferably detailed) walkthrough how to go about? Anything I'm doing wrong?

Cheers,

Armand

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There are detailed installation methods in this forum.

You will find anything related to your problem without manually searching through 90 + pages.

1-Download Flashget, it's free! http://www.amazesoft.com/ and install it.
2-Go to http://hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/38623/
3-Right click in the FAQ section and click Download All by Flashget
4-The Select URL window will appear, in this window select file 38623 (index file page 1) and all files that resemble _o=20 (page 2) to _o=1280 (page 65) etc. and uncheck the rest. Download.
The files will end up in C:\Downloads
5-Use a file renamer software or manually add the .html extension. ie: 38623.html _o=20.html to each file.
6-Copy this folder to your desktop and rename to A8N-SLI FAQ.
7-Use Google desktop search (adjust settings - Google integration. CHECK Show Desktop Search results on Google Web Search result pages. and UN-CHECK the rest) to search the desktop and it will scan the folder and give you concise answers. get the program here http://desktop.google.com/

Good luck!

Mike :)


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Does anyone have a version of ntune earlier than 2.0.23.0. this version does not have the best graphics option on my system.

let me know if you have an earlier version and i will PM my email so you can send it.

thanks in advance.

CP

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C P

Forgot about you. lol

I'll send it now.

Mike :)

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thanks. please let me know if it doesn't go. it should.

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Paul Montague:

"Fault eventually traced to the Lian-li 3.5" bezel fitted to my case, this was very slightly pushing on the eject button on the drive unit therefore preventing the floppy from being read."

Hey, I've got the same bezel and have the same problem. Thanks for the fix. I knew it had to be the bezel that was causing it, but I couldn't figure out how to fix it.

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Hi all. I recieved my Tagan 480 power supply today and everything is great except, it is running much hotter. Before my cpu temps were 35 idle, 41 on load, now its 38 idle, 46-48 on load. Also the board temp has jumped about the same degree difference. My video card is also sitting at 54 idle and 60+ on load but before it was 49 idle, 54 on load. My asus is spinning the fans much faster as well due to the temps. The only thing ive changed is the power supply. I just want my cool and very quiet pc back. I changed from an antec 350 by the way. Please help. Thx

Otis


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