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david cole Apr 04, 2005, 09:04pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Edited: Apr 04, 2005, 09:26pm EDT

 
>> Re: Asus A8N-SLI FAQ
Pod 13 and Mike,

First, thank you for trying to assist me in this latest problem getting disks recognized on the Sil DATA controller.

First, I still do not understand why this startup has not been smoother. This is a complex system and I do realize it is probably something in the sequence of events I am getting out of order, or using/not using wrongly. I do follow all your directives to the letter, including all the stuff on page one of the forum. I have setup hundreds of systems, but this time I am striking out! The yellow ? shown in device manager have no real hints where to look for the problems - mostly refer to unknown device.. [EDIT... I have now reduced down to two yellow flags, one for the RAID controller, and the second refers to a video controller (VGA conmpatible) ___ I obviously have not installed an additional RAID controller, and I am holdng for now in installing the latest nvidia video drivers]

In separate replies, you both have directed me that I can install RAID drivers from the ASUS CD thru Windows Device Manager by navigating to \Drivers\Sil3114\Disk. I have tried to do this sveral times - BUT, I always get a 'driver not found' message.

However I do not really understand why I should have to install a "RAID" driver when I have no intention of using RAID on this controller. Now if it was a driver for the Sil SATA controller I could understand that need but my first guess would be that the driver for SATA is included in the BIOS code since the controller is mounted on the motherboard. I have read no instances of where one would install a driver for SAT only on this controller. The install screens all descibe the installation of RAID drivers only. I have read the Silicon Image User Manual twice now and still have no reason to want any of the RAID type described therein. JBOD would only help if I only had use for just one disk on this device.

Pod13 - in a previous reply, you said that if I installed the driver as above, I would see the drives under the device info tab of the Sil 3114 Softraid 5 Controller in device manager. Would this be only if I installed Raid 5?

Believe me friends, I am trying to thoroughly follow up on your guidance and do appreciate all the interest you have shown in my problem. As of now, I am not moving forward at any measurable rate.

Also two pages back you said:
"It looks like your SiI controller's window drivers aren't installed. Did you install the drivers that came on the CD for the MB? I remember those drivers cleared up a bunch of 'yellow questionmark' devices for me, but don't recall exactly which ones anymore. If you double click on one of the entries it should tell you why its not working and give you an opportunity to correct it."
and also:
" I have drives hanging off both my SATA controllers that aren't in a raid. I didn't supply any drivers to the XP install."

I got a little confused here - how many drives on the Sil controller without any drivers installed during install? And the drivers that cleared up the yellow flags - were these installed later even though the drives were working without?

Appreciate all linsight you call supply, cause believe me I am going in circles.

David

A8N-SLI Deluxe, FX-55, Win XP Pro - was main, being rebuilt after electrical storm
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Keith B Apr 04, 2005, 09:12pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Actually, most reviews I have read have led me to believe there is LITTLE TO NO performance increase for gaming with RAID0 vs single drive. Having said that however, the specific way the game accesses information can cause RAID0 to be beneficial. But most games will not see improvement and may (as Anandtech's Far Cry test showed) actually suffer from the controller overhead of RAID implementation.

Anandtech makes the mistake of throwing a 20% improvement number out there based on general usage testing, which can be skewed heavily in RAID0's favor by bootup times and the like. Strictly for gaming, which is what I assume we are mostly interested in here....I don't see RAID0 being worth the expense or more importantly the danger of RAID0. Have a drive running striping die and you'll understand.

Here's one of the better articles on the subject of RAID's performance impact:

http://storagereview.com/articles/200406/20040625TCQ_6.html

If anyone would like to try and justify RAID0 for gaming though, be my guest. If it's just for a certain few games you know to take advantage of it, then I can see it but especially for FPSs I don't.

Dirty Dog Apr 04, 2005, 10:10pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Keith B,

In general I believe you are correct. I don't see any improvement in the actual game. Where it may benefit me is in the loading of the game from one map to the next in online gaming. It seems to me it may help to load the next map faster. This quite frequently let's me be one of the first (usually the first) to spawn, giving me my choice of aircraft/vehicles.

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Pod 13

Thanks for the reply.. I tried to make those changes to the NIC.. still the same. Guess I'll stick with the other one for now.

Whizzz AKA: SLI Scientist@Work Apr 04, 2005, 10:24pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Edited: Apr 04, 2005, 10:30pm EDT

 
>> Re: Asus A8N-SLI FAQ
david cole

The only way you will be able to clear the exclamations is to create a RAID array. (any that are Sil or RAID faults)

>>>Create any type of array at the Sil prompt on boot, format the disks whenever prompted or in windows disk management, get everything to a working RAID system on the Sil.
>>>Within the Sil Software in windows or the windows disk management, delete the array, at least they will have been formatted and you'll stand a better chance of seeing them as single drives as the meta data for the Sil controller system will be on the disks and in the registry.

If I still had my 250 Gig drives I would definitely give you a complete step by step, but I don't have them. This is a rough guide, but I'm sure you get the point.

Mike :)

Pod 13 Apr 05, 2005, 12:37am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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to david cole:

So help me to understand. You have a device in device manger which reports it does not have its drivers installed and is indicating this condition with a yellow question mark. You have deduced that it is a RAID controller and you are missing the SiI controller from your system. Is this all accurate?

On my system, the 'Silicon Image SiI 3114 SoftRaid 5 Controller' is listed under SCSI and RAID controllers. Now I know this isn't as SCSI controller and I'm not running a RAID on this machine, but it works great for me.

I would assume that if you could get to the point of seeing this device on your machine like it appears on mine that you would be able to format those drives. You should not have to setup a RAID and I can't imagine how that would help windows see the drives since its quite obvious the problem is that windows isn't even seeing the controller.

What if you do this:

Open Device Manager
Double click on the RAID contoller with a yellow question mark
Click Driver
Click Update Driver
Select Install from a list or location (Advanced), then Next
Select Don't search, I will choose the driver to install, then Next
Click Have Disk...
Select that directory on your CDROM drive (i.e. d:\Drivers\Sil3114\Disk), then Ok

Does it show 'Silicon Image SiI 3114 SoftRaid 5 Controller' in the Model window? If so, then click Next and you should be rocking. If not, I'm stumped.






Whizzz AKA: SLI Scientist@Work Apr 05, 2005, 12:48am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Pod 13

You should not have to setup a RAID and I can't imagine how that would help windows see the drives since its quite obvious the problem is that windows isn't even seeing the controller.
>>>A lot of people can't imagine a lot of recommendations I make here, but the ratio of working units to not is very high.

What if you do this:

Open Device Manager
Double click on the RAID contoller with a yellow question mark
Click Driver
Click Update Driver
Select Install from a list or location (Advanced), then Next
Select Don't search, I will choose the driver to install, then Next
Click Have Disk...
Select that directory on your CDROM drive (i.e. d:\Drivers\Sil3114\Disk), then Ok

>>>He has done this on numerous occasions, I even recommended this a way back.

Mike

bilie ! Apr 05, 2005, 05:50am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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To Pod13, Merc & anyone around who want to help a first time fixer in fix

Guys I tried everything around, everything that you suggested and everything that comes to my mind... I unplug all devices even RAM...unplug and plug all cables onto mother board..unplug and plug power cables...watelse...even unplug heatsink cable(though didn't pull out fan and processor from MB)...but no luck...it lay dead from day one...

is there any more trick or should i send this crap back.

Thnx for your time in advance

Regards,
Bilie


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bilie ! Apr 05, 2005, 07:14am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Asus A8N-SLI FAQ (thats how the story ends:( )
To all folks!
Finally called my vendor and he suggested that take the motherboard out of casing. Did so. Put on the power

BANG

a spark out of BIOS...i do hope that my RAM still work....anyhow sending it back

MORAL OF STORY: Never buy this crap and AMD , stick to intel and have peace of mind. Never go to these benchmarks as they are often misleading. Real thing is stability and ease to use.

Still appreciate this forum and will stic to it.

Both thumbs up for you guys and both thumbs down for ASUS and AMD.

Bilie


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DOD Petrus Apr 05, 2005, 10:52am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Asus A8N-SLI FAQ memory problem
Mike: Hello Mike, the last problem with artefacts on screen is allright.it was graphic card, they give me another new one and this one is working fine. now i have another problem, when i put memory (2x512MB) to slots DIMM A1+DIMM B1 is not working,just beeping and saying memory error, but when i put to slots DIMM A2+DIMM B2 is working fine. what it can be? something wrong with MB or CPU? because maybe 5 days was working great also in A1+B1.

El Apr 05, 2005, 11:33am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Here's a new one with my A8N-SLI: A little over a week ago it happened for the first time. After about a month of virtually flawless operation I hear this awful whining vibrating pulsing noise as it's booting up. I rip of the case door and discover it's the chipset fan slowing down and speeding up, almost like it wants more power that it's not able to get. I shut down, restart, everything's fine. I have no idea, but it's gotten progressively worse since it happened. Now the noise occurs more than it doesn't. And it always just takes a restart to pop it back. Put that along with the fact my secondary 200GB WD storage drive just crashed and it makes me wonder. Is it just a bad little fan or is my Thermaltake 560W PSU putting out dirty power and messing with my devices? I've also got one 6800GT, 2 80GB Seagate SATAs in Raid0 and a Plextor ATA DVD burner FYI.

Thanks,
jared


Sl1 Builder Apr 05, 2005, 12:27pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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I believe I read somewhere in this thread that the chipset fan has been successfully replaced using a Zalman upgrade...

...or test by using a reference PSU such as one recomended on page 1 and listen for sound again

I'd like to know the results of that test also btw :)

speaking of power supplies,........

ANTEC released Truepower "II" series... anyone seen it yet???

http://www.antec.com/us/productDetails.php?ProdID=22550#

-single 120mm fan, dual pci-x 6pin connectors....19a on both rails instead of 18 on the eps12

I am toying with the idea of getting one, instead of the eps12v...... any thoughts on this?

Whizzz AKA: SLI Scientist@Work Apr 05, 2005, 03:41pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Edited: Apr 05, 2005, 05:08pm EDT

 
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DOD Petrus

Knew it was the graphics card, but your problem resembled overclocking as it happened to me on more than one occasion.

I'm glad it's fixed.

but when i put to slots DIMM A2+DIMM B2 is working fine. what it can be? something wrong with MB or CPU? because maybe 5 days was working great also in A1+B1.
>>>Clear the CMOS and try again in B1 first, then boot.
>>>Next clear the CMOS again and try A1 and B1.

Mike :)

Will Bazdarich Apr 05, 2005, 05:21pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Hey guys,
A little question: I using bios v. 1006 and I'm not sure where I can go to change my RAM voltage. A guy on another site reccomended that I change the voltage to 2.8v (the mem is corsair twinx 2x215 3200XL). Also, I'm pretty sure the I have the bios set to 2-2-2-5 but I'm not sure which setting in the bios each of those refers to.

thanks, sorry for the newbie questions.

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Edited: Apr 05, 2005, 05:53pm EDT

 
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Will

BIOS>
Advanced>
CPU Configuration>
DRAM configuration>

-Max Memclock (MHz)---------------[AUTO]
-1T/2T Memory Timing----------------[1T] for two sticks [2T] for four
-CAS# latency (Tlc)--------------------[ 2 ]
-RAS# to CAS# delay (Trcd)--------[ 2 ]
-Min RAS# active time (Tras)-------[ 5 ]
-Row precharge TIme (Trp)----------[ 2 ]
-Row Cycle Time (Trc)----------------[ AUTO ]
-Row Refresh Cycle Time (Trfc)---[ AUTO ]
-Write Recovery Time (Twr)---------[ AUTO ]
-Read-to-Write Delay (Trwt)---------[ AUTO ]

BIOS>
Advanced>
Jumperfree Configuration>
Set to manual>
DDR Voltage

You can also increase the RAM voltage in Ai Booster too.

Thanks for the compliment.

Mike :)

Will Bazdarich Apr 05, 2005, 05:38pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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cool!
thanks Mike, you're the best.
But you knew that already.

Jase Dee Apr 05, 2005, 06:15pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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A little disheartening to hear about the motherboard blowing up a few posts ago. Might be nice to do a poll or something to survey how many people have got their A8N running, how many problems they had, and how happy they are with the final setup? To reassure people it's worth the trouble and a good idea to make the purchase decision?

Whizzz AKA: SLI Scientist@Work Apr 05, 2005, 06:16pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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jared brush

I had the same problem with my fan till I went watercooled.

I gave my new fan to Simon Lu in the US as his fan gave out all together. Obviously this fan is a poor design but is required as I know some people with Zalman's have been running into issues. If people invest money into a unit like this they should seriously consider watercooling the chipset and other components, there is just no comparison to fan/ heatsink or passive cooling when it comes to watercooling.

Mike :)

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Edited: Apr 05, 2005, 06:25pm EDT

 
>> Re: Asus A8N-SLI FAQ
Jase Dee

9 times out of 10, it's user error.
What surface was the board put on for the bench test? Was it clean? Wiring methods! Installation!
The list goes on... No one really knows unless one was there.
So can the blame be put on the components?
Like I said, 9 times out of ten it's user error.

PS - This is the fastest and most reliable system I've ever owned, and I'm proud of my machine.

Mike :)

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Hi guys,

I'm getting ready to play with 3DMark and get my system tuned, but I still haven't got my system into SLI mode :(
Is there anyone running XP64 RC2 that has managed to get into SLI? Or any suggestions on how to make the SLI mode appear?

Also, my DVD encoder software (DVD43) doesn't want to work on 64bit. Any suggestions of rippers that someone has gotten to work?

Thanks,
Masked


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