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Russ Spry Apr 05, 2005, 08:08pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Asus A8N-SLI FAQ
I also have had zero problems with this board. I have built dozens and dozens of systems over the last 20 years and have always tried to stay ahead of all the rest in what is new. In all thoughs years I have had to RMA 2 motherboards (Tyan AMD Dual MP & Asus P4C 800 Deluxe). All the problems these people are having with this motherboard for the most part is due to operator error. Simple failures IE: Never read the User Guide, never took proper anti static procedures, useing less than quality hardware for a system that Requires Quality, trying to get everything to work from the first boot up, the list goes on and on....But they are all operator error.
As a current beta tester for SiSoft Sandra I work with benchmarking programs all the time. It seems that alot of these problems also are self inflicted by trying to achive software generated numbers that are not based on fact and can easily be manipulated by turning on or off certain options in the software just to try and achive bragging rights to something that is not real. I ask you can anyone actually see a difference in a processor running at 2.4 ghz verses one OC'd to 2.6 ghz, I don't think so but the one thing I do know is that it stresses the system and they have failures(again operator error).
Now that I have written a book. What it all boils down to is this is a great board, and it delivered what it promised in speed and technology.

A8N-SLI Deluxe Bios 1004
AMD 64 3800+
Tsunami Dream Case
550 WPS 28 amps +12v
2 Gig Corsair TwinX PC3200
2 - Leadtek PX 6800 TDH SLI 256 Meg
3 - 36 Gig WD Raptors on Sil Raid 5




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Whizzz AKA: SLI Scientist@Work Apr 05, 2005, 08:41pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Masked

Have you swapped the video cards out?
Does either card work in both slots and in extended monitor view?
I like a challenge!
Been a while since you've been here for me to finish what we started a way back.

Mike :)

Dean Edward Apr 05, 2005, 09:15pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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SI1,

The choice on the new Antec 550 PSU really depends a lot on the CPU you are using, Vid. card(s), and how many hdd and optical drives you have running. If you intend to push this mobo to the max eventually then overkill is ok. If not, then these big 500W + PSU's(some running quad 12V rails now!) may not be needed. Asus has a decent chart on their website listing the PSU wattage/amperage needed to run varying systems set-ups. I would reccomend you check that out. Also, NVidia lists the current PSU's that it is giving its stamp of approval on for full SLI set-ups. I currently am not in an SLI set-up and run an Antec Neopower 480W, which for me is plenty. I plan to build my wife a system soon that will be running only 1 pci-e vid. card, and at that time will swap the Antec to her set-up(along with my 6600gt vid card and 3500+ cpu) and upgrade mine to a full SLI set-up on a quad 12V rail PSU, two 6800Gt's and will at that time upgrade to the FX series of CPU's. Until then the Antec Neopower 480W(dual 12 volt rails) is doing excellent.

I hope something i said will help you out

cheers, Dean

Dean Edward Apr 05, 2005, 09:31pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Jase Dee,


I, for one, had an excellent experience with this mobo. This is my first ever system build and I had only 2 very minor snags as i set this system up.

1) On first boot I found that I had a graphic card error which turned out to be that my ez-select card was inserted for the dual card set-up but I had installed only 1 pci-e card. I powered down and flipped the card and the next boot i was up and running.

2) After being warned by both the tech where i purchased my hardware AND Sander Sassen... I stuck a "great deal, eBay special" PSU into the system. After about three weeks it fried after I shut down one night. Luckily only the PSU fried...no damage to the mobo. I replaced it with one of the recommended PSU's on page one of the forum here and its been AOK ever since.

I tend to agree with what someone said a few posts back. Human error and carelessness are what is messing up 99.9% of the people that are having trouble.Having been a noobie I did my homework for 2 months before attempting this build, and followed the user manual religiously throughout the process. I did not give in to the urge to rush the process either. It took me approx. 18 hours to assemble the system and i did NOT move on to the next step in the set-up until i was certain that I understood and had done a correct job on it. The reward has been a very positive experience for my first build.

is that positive enough testimony of how great thos mobo can be?? ;)

regards, Dean


OldeCrow R Apr 05, 2005, 09:34pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Mike

After fumbling around with my system for a week i finaly got a clean and stable install, i installed systemworks after my initial driver installs and it immediately reproduced the wierd system tray icon issues and caused a terrible lag in the startup, i ran disk doctor and it immediately said that i didnt have a valid boot sector, the last thing i would think of checking. The system passed a 12hr burnin test at a 4% overclock across the board. I also HAD TO MANUALLY SET THE MEMORY TIMEINGS! My super duper OCZ low latency 2.2.2.5 pc3200 memory gets detected as 2.3.3.5! Im not sure if thats an issue with the a8n-sli or if OCZ is cheating on their memory spec's but when i manually set the memory to 1T 2.2.2.5 at 2.8volts I got a nice improvement in memory performance and its running at rated spec's now.

im currently running 1004 bios 6.39 nforce and 71.80 forceware (71.80 clock settings can be adjusted in sli mode, few other bugs not present in the 71.84 release but they seem slower than 71.84)

i hate to try fixing this when its not broke but i cant resist trying the newer drivers and bios now just to see if my problems were centered around the bootsector problems on the harddrive.

Thanks for the suggestions !




Dean Edward Apr 05, 2005, 09:35pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Sorry, I forgot to post my current set-up on my last 2 posts.

Asus A8N-SLI Deluxe(BIOS Rev. 1007beta)
Athlon 64 3500+,NewCastle,939 @2.21ghz.(stock cooler)
Antec Neopower 480w ATX12V v.2.0
2x Corsair dual 512mb,PC-3200, DDR 400
1x Leadtek(Winfast) PX6600GT-extreme(Core,553 mhz / clock,DDR3 1.125 ghz)
Maxtor HDD (163.93 GB,7200 rpm,8mb buffer,SATA)
LITEON Dual Layer 16x DVD Writer,IDE
LITE-ON DVD-ROM,IDE
Realtek AC'97, 8 channel Audio,
Windows XP Professional(SP 2)
Lian-li V1100,modded antec 80mm intake fan


Mike S Apr 05, 2005, 11:01pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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I have had my A8n-SLI up and running stable for about a month now. Only had minor problems getting it to work. Most of the problem was my not being familar with SATA and raid configuration. This was my 1st raid installation. The raid documentation in the ASUS manual is not the best, however there is very good documentation on the CD. I did not have the floppy disk with drivers ready when I started to install XP. Fortunately I had another computer close by to make the disk.

If you are going to use this MB you must do your homework and not skip any steps as mentioned earlier in the postings.

With the latest drivers installed my system is rock solid. I did have a problem with my Video card (ATI Radeon X6000 pci express) when 1st installed, but the latest drivers cured that problem.I have replaced the stock chipset cooler with a Zalman ZM-NB47J. The stock fan was by far the noisest fan in the system, I could hear it over all the other fans. I have added a evercool fan to the top to aid in cooling. This fan is much quieter then the stock one. Without the fan it was running at 150 F. With the fan it runs 110F. I have ordered a Swiftect MCX 159R that I will be installing later this week to see if I can improve on the current temp.

I am very pleased with my current system.

Kim Cowburn Apr 06, 2005, 05:40am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Hi Guys,

Great FAQ, hopefully someone can help me with a couple problems. I have been playing with my new system for about two weeks now and referring to this forum for any clues to my problems but I haven't been able to fix my problems.

Specs are

A8N Deluxe with bios 1006
3000+ winchester
1x Asus EN 6600gt
512 meg Kingmax superRAM
Antec Neopower 480
Western Digital 160gig 7200
WinFast TV2000 XP Expert (to be installed when all is running as it should)
Windows XP with SP2
Chipset Drivers ver 6.39
Video Drivers ver 66.93

I have aslo carried out the processes suggested by Sander on the first page and Mike on the 16th page. The problems have remained the same;
1 - Windows is more or less stable and I can carry out Mike's post without any problems (though I haven't pushed it). I can also run 3Dmark 05 and get a score of 3505 but whenever I run a 3D game it will run for between 5 and 10 mins, the screen will go blank then reboot, give me the beeps and the nice lady tells me it failed its VGA test then nothing. Reboot again goes into windows and runs about the same (it doesn't lock for me as it seems to for others). Generally my vid temps are about 55-64 degrees celcius during games and it happens regardless of the driver version. It also seems to only run with PCIe max at x8 as opposed to x16 that i thought all GForce6s ran at.
2 - I have also had trouble networking but don't know enough about it to troubleshoot much. I generally can't see my comp on a network but can play a game for 5-10 mins till it crashes.
3 - if i install any of the Nvidia IDE drivers my HDD comes up as a removeable device... i'm not too concerned about this but it is a little annoying.

Any help clearing up these issues would be very much appreciated.

Thanks in advance...



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Kim Cowburn

1 - Windows is more or less stable and I can carry out Mike's post without any problems (though I haven't pushed it). I can also run 3Dmark 05 and get a score of 3505 but whenever I run a 3D game it will run for between 5 and 10 mins, the screen will go blank then reboot, give me the beeps and the nice lady tells me it failed its VGA test then nothing. Reboot again goes into windows and runs about the same (it doesn't lock for me as it seems to for others). Generally my vid temps are about 55-64 degrees celcius during games and it happens regardless of the driver version. It also seems to only run with PCIe max at x8 as opposed to x16 that i thought all GForce6s ran at.
>>>The reason you are not on X16 is normally caused by your EZ selector card being in the dual video position and not the single.
>>>Sounds like your cards are overclocked, how much from default?

2 - I have also had trouble networking but don't know enough about it to troubleshoot much. I generally can't see my comp on a network but can play a game for 5-10 mins till it crashes.
>>>Once you solve the problem in 1, your crashing will probably stop.
>>>As far as the network is concerned, usually a firewall/settings issue.

3 - if i install any of the Nvidia IDE drivers my HDD comes up as a removeable device... i'm not too concerned about this but it is a little annoying.
>>>Can you give the exact type or model number of your drive? Just edit your previous post.

Mike :)

Jerry Beck Apr 06, 2005, 09:34am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Hello,
thanks for the great FAQ. I have to admit that I haven't read it all, but the first and last 20 pages or so. Thanks for the great setup guide, Sander. Thanks for your great tips, Mike.
I had some issues with my board so far, but most were my fault, not knowing anything about S-ATA.

One issue (although it is not a big one) is still there. Like David Cole, if I understood correctly, I have one unknown device listed in the device manager which I can't find any driver for. It says it is in the PCI bus and nothing further. My system is running so far. I have the one HD at the Nvidia S-ATA connector without any raids active or installed in the BIOS/XP-System. Still I don't know what it is or what it is there for, any luck so far for David?

I haven't made any 3D tests yet, but I will do them next week and then report.

Here are my specs:

A8N SLI Deluxe, BIOS 1006
AMD 3500+ Winchester
1x takeMS 1Gig DDR400 RAM in B1
Maxtor Diamond 10, 300 GB, S-ATA
Gainward GF6800 Ultra GS
Windows XP with SP2
Chipset Drivers nforce Standalone Kit 6.53
Video Drivers ver 71.84

Thanks for any ideas,
Jerry Beck

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Edited: Apr 06, 2005, 11:31am EDT

 
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OldeCrow R

I also HAD TO MANUALLY SET THE MEMORY TIMEINGS! My super duper OCZ low latency 2.2.2.5 pc3200 memory gets detected as 2.3.3.5! Im not sure if thats an issue with the a8n-sli or if OCZ is cheating on their memory spec's but when i manually set the memory to 1T 2.2.2.5 at 2.8volts I got a nice improvement in memory performance and its running at rated spec's now.
>>>If you look on the SPD tab of cpuz.exe, it will show you the default timings table for your ram, Windows will normally set it to this if you have all settings set to AUTO in the BIOS.

We all have to set our ram manually when we want better performance! You made a good choice getting 2 sticks at 512 MB's, it allows you to have 1 GIG of RAM set at 1T. I have four sticks of 256 Mb's, my timings are 2-2-2-5 2T, you can't get 1T with four sticks. When I remove 2 sticks, I'm able to get 1T but lose 512 MB's of RAM, having lower MB's and lower (the lower the number, the higher (faster) the timing cycle or clock rate) timings has it's advantages in benchmarks though.

PS - Some of what I posted here is to help other people too, not all completely directed at you OldeCrow R.

Mike :)

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Jerry Beck

It says it is in the PCI bus and nothing further
>>>This should be active and listed under system devices. Try to update the driver by manually pointing to E (your cd or DVD drive):\Drivers\Chipset\WINXP_2K\SMBus on your motherboard cd, or reinstalling the driver package you got from the net.

If anyone has any yellow exclamations in the device manager it constitutes problems that need to be rectified.

Oops!
I see, the device is in the PCI bus, sorry!
You need to find out what's missing and provide the driver for it. Don't depend on automatic installs of drivers; many require a manual find and install, sometimes a yes to an agreement prior to, which means a driver/software install from the cd drivers tab (Like the Marvell Networking adapter). You know what's in your computer; systematically sift through the device manager until you find the missing device.
The device manager should be clear of any exclamations or errors.

Mike :)

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Edited: Apr 06, 2005, 10:35am EDT

 
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David Cole

Anytime you're ready for a one on one in MSN or on the phone to fix your issue, let me know.

PS - I only help people this way, if they are about to take a sledge hammer to their system or have given up hope.

Mike :)

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Hello Mike,
thanks for your fast reply.
The funny thing is, I can't find anything that is missing. I just had the graphics card, no raid, no pci card installed. Audio is turned off, 1394 is there, SMBus is there, no LAN is activated in the BIOS, COM1 is there, parallel is deactivated in the BIOS...
Do you have any idea what is installed as default in the PCI bus?
When I come back home tonight I will try to copy the list from the device manager and post it here and tell you exactly what I have activated in the BIOS and what shows up in the device manager.
So far,
Jerry

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Edited: Apr 06, 2005, 11:07am EDT

 
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Jerry Beck

Can you go to the device manager and make sure that hidden devices under view is activated and resources by type and then resources by connection are checked one at a time to see if more detail can be seen on the missing device?

>>>Especially here
View > Devices by connection > ACPI Uniprocessor PC > Microsoft ACPI-Compliant System > PCI Bus > Expand all and check to see if the device falls under a certain category.


Looking forward to getting the info.

Mike :)

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>Personally I wouldn't mess with the northbridge fan/heatsink combo, if passive was ok, would ASUS not >have put one on there? There are reasons why they used a fan/heatsink combo. If anything I trust >watercooling over both air and passive as I see the numbers on my system.

By your own advice wouldn't ASUS use watercooling then? Why not a peltier as well...it comes down to cost. There is at least one other board with the same chipset running passive cooling.

To POD13, who do you know that has failed with passive cooling on the nforce chipset? I know of none using zalman products, only those that were using the wrong type of cooler to begin with.


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Alkemyst Darkened

Personally I wouldn't mess with the northbridge fan/heatsink combo, if passive was ok, would ASUS not >have put one on there? There are reasons why they used a fan/heatsink combo. If anything I trust >watercooling over both air and passive as I see the numbers on my system.

By your own advice wouldn't ASUS use watercooling then?
Why not a peltier as well...it comes down to cost. There is at least one other board with the same chipset running passive cooling.
>>>I said personally (my views), be realistic here, I know about cost and I did mention that if people could afford systems like this then watercooling would be a worthwhile investment as it does beat fan/heatsink and passive cooling.

PS - Passive is cheaper than the fan/heatsink combo, so why didn't they use passive if it comes down to cost?
http://www.xoxide.com/theraqiipreo.html .
http://www.koolance.com/shop/product_info.php?products_id=104
91.99 US for a kit and 39.00 US for a chipset cooler is a small price to pay for peace of mind and much lower temperatures. What's the stock fan worth 50.00 US? I had to buy one because mine failed, but I ended up giving it to Simon Lu in the US because his failed and I went watercooled.

You don't need to spend 1,000 CAD like I did for watercooling, but I can afford it, so I did!!!
http://
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Mike :)

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Is anybody running Cas 2 on Corair modules? I can run Memtest x86 for days on end with no errors at cas 2, but when I try to boot into windows, it locks up at the loading screen. Maybe I need higher than 1.6v?

-runner345
Athlon64 3000+ Winchestor @ 1850
A8N-SLI Bios 1006
2x 512 Corair XMS 3200 at 2.5-3-3-1T
2x Gigabyte Geforce 6600GT in SLI
2x WD360GD in raid 0
WD1000BB and WD800JD
Audigy 2 via inspire 6600
Enermax 431W powersupply (meets asus req's)

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Liquid Snake

Had the same stuff, that's why I have new RAM.

2.5-3-3-6 1T was the best I could get stable. 2 would do the same to me.

Mike :)

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Ah okay. I'll have to get some low-latency modules. Thanks Mike.


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