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David Paul Apr 13, 2005, 08:21pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Asus A8N-SLI FAQ
I posted on the main section of the msg brd before I had read all this.

System
Asus A8N-SLI Deluxe, BIOS 1006
AMD Athlon 64 (939) FX55 2.6GHz
Western Digital SATA Raptor 74GB
XFX GeForce 6800 Ultra 256MB PCI-E (2)
Windows XP Pro
pqi TURBO Series Dual Channel Platinum Kit 1GB (512MB x 2) DDR PC-3200 (PQI3200-1024DPU)

I bought a secong gig of memory (identical to the orginial) for this system and installed it but the system won't recognize it. The memory slots are A1A2 B1B2. The orginal memeory was installed in A1 and B1. If I install the new memory in A1 and B1 they system boots fine and sees 1 gig. If I install a single stick in B1 the system boots fine and sees 512 (like it should). If I try 1.5 gig (in either A2 or B2) the system won't boot. If I install all 4 sticks they system boots fine and sees 1 gig. I updated the bios to 1006 and read the manual. I dont see a jumper or setting to tell the system that there is 2 gig. I've pulled the mb battery and flashed the bios but it still will only see 1 gig. Any suggestions?

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Merc Apr 13, 2005, 08:55pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Rien,
Ok, so one of the wires was connected wrong, I'd check them all again just to be sure but i just can't help think that you have some volume control, in one of the many places available, either turned down, or, more likely, MUTE is seleced.

Another "Holy S---, I can't believe I missed that!" moments is a volume control on the KEYBOARD, or a mute on the keyboard, that is turned way down or selected respectively.

Since you are getting a signal then we have to assume that the juice is flowing and everything is working correctly. Remember there is a windows volume control/mute, and a Nvidia VC/mute plus probably a graphics equalizer VC/mute plus. probably a keyboard VC/mute.

Good luck
merc

Merc
Modified Lian Li PC 7077A
Dual Watercooling Loops
Asus P5K Deluxe BIOS 0404
Core 2 Duo Q6600 (3600MHz@1.46v)
Max OC 4050MhHz at 1.65v
1 x XFX 8800GTX XXX Watercooled
2 GB Team Xtreme DDR2 800-PC6400
2 x 150gb WD in Raptors in RAID 0
1 x 640
Damon F Apr 14, 2005, 01:29am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Power connections. I know this was brought up earlier and I have read about it and seen the picture, but I don't see how it applies to me. I have the Neopower 480, all it has are 6 pin outlets which you can plug different peripherals into, and it has one plug that is for PCI-e, six pin to six pin. Where is the 8 pin plug that I convert to two six pins? Also, so even though there is an outlet for six pins in the card (6800gt), you can plug a modified plug into it that only has four pins?
thank you.

Lian Li PC-6077B
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OldeCrow R Apr 14, 2005, 03:26am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Just a little update on my system now that ive finaly had time to address some remaining issues after a reinstall, Initial problem was 6.53 nForce drivers killed my netwrok and firewall install and before i could troubleshoot the problems the 6.53 IDE / SATA drivers ate the boot sector on my drive ..

now that ive had the machine back up and running for a couple weeks ive finaly had time to address the remaining performance issues.

the first thing I noticed was that this current install wouldnt benchmark anywhere near where it was the first time so i set to work this afternoon testing different versions of the video drivers. no matter what i did I couldnt get much more than 4 or 5 % over default clock speeds on my pair of xfx 6600gt's finally i noticed that my processor was only running at 1ghz (athlon 64 3500+).. I had the cool-n-quiet features enabled in bios and had turned off minimal power management thinking that would disable the cool-n-quiet but it seems that it was stuck throttled down so I rebooted, turned off cool-n-quiet in bios and now my video cards overclock like they used to .. actually better.. after benchmarking my way up from 66.93 to the current 71.84 forceware drivers I read a post on the nvidia forums about the 71.81 (digitaly signed) drivers from the asus website ( http://www.asus.com.tw/pub/ASUS/vga/nVidia/Released_Drv/nv7181_w2kxp.zip ) and to my supprise I get the best overclock speeds and benchmarks I have had so far with my xfx 6600gt's

3dmark05 7067 !! (air cooled baby! )

also with cool-n-quiet OFF 3dmark05 runs without crashing between tests at higher clock speeds !!!

woot!! im finaly happy with this computer again :)

Im pretty sure i can enable cool-n-quiet again now that ive got the clock settings worked out and as long as I dont want to run 3dmark05 I should be fine but I think I will just leave cool-n-quiet alone for five or ten years while they work out the bugs ..( I still remember early ACPI and power management horror stories )


AMD 64 3500+ (939 NewCastle) (cool-n-quiet off) 4% bios overclock
ASUS A8N-SLI Deluxe 6.39 nforce drivers
2 x 512mb OCZ Platinum Rev2 (2.2.2.5) (manually set 1t 2.2.2.5 @2.8v)
XFX 6800GT x2 @ 580/1180Mhz 71.81 forceware drivers (digitaly signed from the asus website)
1 x 76GB WD Raptor 10k rpm sata
1 x 36GB WD Raptor 10k rpm sata
1 x 80GB WD sata
Enermax 470Watt EG475AX-VE(W)
Sony DVD Burner | Sony DVD-ROM
3dmark05 7067!
Sandra RamBandwidth 6000!

rhinotron 3030 Apr 14, 2005, 07:06am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Edited: Apr 14, 2005, 07:09am EDT

 
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(WARNING: this is going to be longwinded! If you don't have audio problems or don't think you can help with mine, you may as well skip past this! - Rien)

Hi Merc,
Well I had a good hard look at the front panel connectors today, this is what I found...
The headers for the front panel look like this:
http://members.iinet.net.au/~romara/frontpanel/front_panel_headers.JPG

I know the pic is a bit blurry, so here's a shot of them in the manual:
http://members.iinet.net.au/~romara/frontpanel/manual_headers.JPG

The front panel connectors are unlabeled on my case, and are in two parts, the first:
http://members.iinet.net.au/~romara/frontpanel/front_panel_connectors1.JPG
(Note they are a group of 8, with 1 blocked out)

The other connector, which I think is the ground (thought it could be the mystery one labeled MIC2) is on a seperate connector, which is a double connector. Only ONE of the 2 actually holds a wire (which as I said, I suspect to be the ground). Here's a few really bad pics:
http://members.iinet.net.au/~romara/frontpanel/front_panel_connectors2.JPG
http://members.iinet.net.au/~romara/frontpanel/front_panel_connectors3.JPG

(Ok, that's all the pretty pictures for this post, I promise!)

Now here's the thing: the way the group of 8 connectors is laid out - with the one blocked out - can only fit one way, which is with the blocked out connector fitting where the absent pin is. It can't fit any other place, any other way due to the blocked connector. The other connector, which is the double connector but with only one wire, can therefore only fit on the last 2 pin headers (AGND and MIC2). I'm sure that the one wire would be the ground, and that is how it is plugged now. In the tests I'm about to go about explaining, I tried the double connector on both ways, AGND and MIC2.

So, onto the testing...
First of all I uninstalled the Realtek drivers, turned the computer off, and took all other hardware out so I could make sure there were no clashes. The only things I had attached to the A8N-Sli Deluxe at this time were: RAM, graphics card, 1 hard disc drive and my DVD drives. I removed the front panel connectors and CD audio connector as well. I turned the computer back on and was prompted to install drivers for the Realtek 850 as soon as I got into windows - I used the motherboard CD and the drivers on it for this. The driver version is 5.10.0.5750.

I did some testing with the ASUS Sound Effect utility, the one that shows up in your system tray as a little navy blue square, with the yellow dot radiating lines in it (I'm trying to be as specific as possible so I leave no doubt to what I have tried!). In Control Panel this utility is called Sound Effect Manager (SEM from now on).

I hit the Connector Sensing tab and pressed start (I had no speakers/headphones/microphones hooked up at this time) It detected nothing in the Front Speaker, Line In, and Microphone jacks, but on hitting the "bracket" button (which shows you the other connectors) it reported that the Rear Speaker, Center/Subwoofer Speaker and Side Speaker jacks all had "Power Speaker"(s) attached to them.
I plugged in my headphones to the Front Speaker jack on the rear panel, which came up in Connector Sensing as a Stereo Line In. I didn't even hear a buzz from power going to the headphones. I did the "Speaker Configuration" (SC) tests in SEM for both 2ch Speaker and Headphones. No sound at all.
I decided to check if sound was coming out of the other jacks - Rear, Center/Sub and Side - as they all showed as being connected to power speakers. To my surprise, all those jacks produced perfect sound in the SC tests, both channels, clear, good volume - Everything!!!
To do another check, I plugged my minidisc to the Optical Digital out - to hear sound you have to be recording it on my minidisc, so I chucked in a disc and hit record - the music I played, through optical out, the minidisc and finally into my headphones, came through absolutely brilliantly, crystal clear, good volume, all channels. So the Realtek 850 IS working... Now remember I did these checks without the front panel jacks connected, nor the CD_IN.

Ok, I turned off the computer and put in the Front Panel connectors again. I tested the AGND/MIC2 both possible ways, with no difference observed.
Now I performed the exact same tests in SEM, on all audio jacks - all of the rear panel ones, and the front panel headphone one. Here are the results:
With front panel plugged in but using the rear Front Speaker jack still, I got some sound this time instead of no signal. Problem is the sound was almost minimal volume and distorted. Performing the SC tests, the right channel came through loudest (though still low volume and distorted) and the left channel was softer. Listening to one headphone at a time (alternating between the right and left speaker/channel), I realised that sound was coming out of both speakers/channels at the same volume. I then tested SC in 4ch Speaker mode, and sound came out of my headphones for all speaker tests. Once again, the right was loudest (relatively low still, and distorted), the rest were very low volume and distorted at exactly the same volume level, so I suspect that sound signals from other channels were filtering through the Front Speaker channel.

With my headphones plugged into the front panel headphone jack, I ran SC tests again. My results were similar, yet different, to when I was plugged into the rear panel Front Speaker jack: Front Right channel came through on both headphones/channels, except this time with no distortion but still very low volume. Testing the Front Left channel produced no sound this time - not even distorted and extremely low volume - as with any other channels (rear, centre, sides, etc).

I performed the above tests in these configurations:
Front Panel connectors: Disconnected. Rear Panel only. Optical out to minidisc.
Front Panel connectors: Connected - MIC2 receiving single wire. Rear Panel and Front Panel. Optical out to minidisc.
Front Panel connectors: Connected - AGND receiving single wire. Rear Panel and Front Panel. Optical out to minidisc.

To quickly summarise:
With Front Panel disconnected, the rear panel Front Speaker jack produced nothing, not even electrical buzzing. Rear, Center/Sub, Side channels all worked correctly.
With Front Panel connected (regardless of orientation of the double connector - AGND/MIC2), the rear Front Speaker jack produced distorted low volume sound regardless of (and in addition to) which channel it was supposed to be coming out of (Rear, Center/Sub, Side), and produced slightly louder distorted sound from the Front Right channel only. All sound was produced in mono (coming through both headphones, not one at a time)
With Front Panel connected and using the front panel headphone jack, sound was only produced when testing the Front Right channel (still low volume) but clear this time, and still in mono. No sound was produced when running SC tests on the other channels.

Optical out to and through my minidisc worked correctly at all times.

If you've read this far, great! Now does anyone have a solution to this problem? I think I've ruled out drivers (as I'd already tested the very latest Realtek 850 drivers as of 13.04.05 with same results, and flashed the mobo to the latest BIOS - 1006), incorrectly installed Front Panel connectors and everything else... Is this a hardware issue?

If the consensus is this must be a hardware problem and I need to RMA the board, I'll send a copy of this post to ASUS customer support.

Thanks for any help you can give!
Rien

El Apr 14, 2005, 09:33am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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1004 BIOS is out for the non-deluxe! Anyone taken the plunge?

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Edited: Apr 14, 2005, 10:54am EDT

 
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I just had to do it, didn't I? Well, I updated the 1001 bios on my non-deluxe A8N-SLI to 1004 using the latest version of AsusUpdate. Everything went smooth, the bios was flashed, then verified and it asked me to restart.

I saw the new splash screen, which gave me hope, then it said O/S failed to load, insert system disk. I figured the the settings in bios were reset, thus the RAID0 on SATA1 and SATA2 wasn't enabled.

I turn off the machine, restart it... nothing. Fans come on, but nothing on the screen. I turn it off, disconnect all drives so all it is is the CPU, mem and vid card. Still nothing. I take out the battery, put it back in, start it up, screen comes up! I go into bios, enable RAID, save and exit, but the computer doesn't come back up - the monitor goes, no activity.

So I've learned I can always get it to come up after removing the battery, but never otherwise.

I just HAD to try and update my bios! So if anyone is bored and wants to help me out with this. I'll be around for the next few hours. Thanks!

jared


EDIT: After ignorantly trying various combinations trying to get it to boot, i've managed to get back into windows from the SATA1/SATA2 RAID0. After I got like 10 "Windows has recovered from a serious error" messages, the computer restarts itself without warning. Windows loads back up, after just 1 "Windows has recovered" message the computer reboots itself again. That's about where I am right now - these error messages and reboots without warning.

El Apr 14, 2005, 11:47am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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OK, my computer is mysteriously back now. After making no significant changes, it seems stable again and 1004 is on it. Is this board just this quirky or do you think I should try a different power supply?
jared

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@ rhinotron 3030

first im a little late to your sound problem discussion i think so if i suggest something thats already been tried ill appologise now, :)

lets try to rule out the front panel connector as a source of your problems ..
first with the front panel connecter removed you wont get any sound out of the green jack on the back of the computer.

the front panel is designed to bypass the rear plugs when its in use and then when you remove the jack from the front panel it bypasses it self and runs the signals back to the rear panel connectors again.

so to start out JUMPER the two grey sets of pins shown in the photo
http://members.iinet.net.au/~romara/frontpanel/manual_headers.JPG

and test your sound from the motherboard jacks. If everything tests out ok there chances are your front panel connector is bad or wired wrong.

-=[BAD]=-Hawk[RO] Apr 14, 2005, 02:43pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Ok, 4829 on 3DMark05 is pretty good,
Thought I'd look at nTune
Got the dire warning "Your PCI clock is currently set to track the HT bus etc.....Disable this behaviour before proceeding" Crikey!!!
Should I turn this off?
If so how please?
Hawk

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Ok so the board is sensing the 4 sticks of 512 memeory. I can tell because when the system boots the memory speed is 333 (see FAQ response from ASUS board below) but when only 2 sticks are intalled the memory is 400. In either case the BIOS and the system properties scree only show 1 gig (even thos cpuz shows 2 gigs).

Why does the memory run at 333MHz if I use four DDR400/512MB memory modules on A8N-SLI?
To be more compatible and stable with some memory modules, the default clock will be at 333MHz if four DDR400 memory modules are plugged on the A8N-SLI. But you still can set at 400MHz manually in the Bios to gain better performance. Moreover, in order to get best performance and compatibility, please choose those memory modules which are verified by us. You can get the QVL from the link below.
http://www.asus.com/products.aspx?l1=3&l2=15&l3=148&am...odelmenu=1



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Damon F:

"Where is the 8 pin plug that I convert to two six pins?"

Only the Antec EPS12V 550 watt has the 8 pin connector. I made a custom cable out of old motherboard power connectors to convert it to 2 pci-e connectors.

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-=[BAD]=-Hawk[RO]

Nothing to worry about!

Mike :)

-=[BAD]=-Hawk[RO] Apr 14, 2005, 05:42pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Thanks Mike,
Sorry to be a pain but ran NVPerformance check:
Graphics Performance 310 v 76 NVIDIA benchmark (6800GT)
Disk Performance 135READ,105Write v 100NVIDIA benchmark(SEAGATE Barracuda 200GB SATA)
Memory Performance (READ,WRITE,LATENCY) 296,229,130 v NVIDIA benchmarks 374,247,166 (Corsair (TWINX1024-3200C2PT) 1024MB)

As I use the m/c only for gaming, is there any danger in running Auto-Tuning on memory and graphics performance?

Settings currently are as per page 1(AMD Athlon 64 3500 Winchester)

rhinotron 3030 Apr 14, 2005, 07:31pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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OldeCrow:
Thank-you! I jumpered the 2 greyed out connectors for the front panel, and received clear, true 3d sound on my headphones first try!
It's not the A8N-SLI Deluxe!!!
Now all I have to do is sort out getting my case fixed/replaced, as it was a bit costly...
Thanks again OldeCrow, I really appreciated your help.
Rien

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-=[BAD]=-Hawk[RO]

Your numbers are fine, and no there is no danger.
Just back-off the ntune settings if you run into any problems, until your system is stable.

Mike :)

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NVIDIA has released a new version,(71.89),of the ForceWare 70 graphics driver.

These are WHQL (Windows Hardware Qualification Labs) Certified

Release Highlights:
Support for the GeForce 6200 with TurboCache, NVIDIA PureVideo, and NVIDIA SLI
Microsoft DirectX 9.0c and OpenGL 1.5 support
Resolved problem with overclocking not working when running GPUs in SLI mode.
For a full list of other issues resolved, please view the driver release notes

http://www.nvidia.com/object/winxp_2k_71.89.html

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>> Re: Asus A8N-SLI FAQ
jared brush,

Maybe it will be worth reading up on what exactly the bios upgrade in 1004 (Non Deluxe) does to Raid (v 4.81) :

1. 1. Fixed S3 resume fail in SLI mode.
2. 2. Support CPU Voltage warning message on POST.
3. 3. Modify SETUP String and its description of DRAM Over 4G remapping function.
4. 4. Add CHIP Fan message ITEM and change Chassis Fan checking default to disabled.
5. 5. Fixed show wrong device (ZIP) on summary screen when PATA controller was disabled.
6. 6. Update awdflash utility to support BIOS can be updated when EMM386 is loaded.
7. 7. Update NVRAID BIOS to 4.81.

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I was just about to nod off to sleep knowing that my SLI setup is on its way, when I just flicked through the user manual for the A8N SLI, and realised that the non-deluxe version of the board does NOT support dual PCI-E SLI ready Gfx cards!! Can anyone else confirm this or have I missed something within all the issues with this board?
(page vii from user manual Revision E2024 V1 March 2005).

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Ethereal Power

Does NOT support dual PCI-E SLI ready Gfx cards
>>>Does NOT support any dual PCI-E SLI ready cards.

Bummer Man!

Mike :(


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