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Whizzz AKA: SLI Scientist@Work Feb 16, 2005, 09:07am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Asus A8N-SLI FAQ
Bonjour Sander Sassen,

Can you point out (in a private message or the forum) where I was not short, to the point and providing detailed information about something? If anything I have provided more data in my posts than most, and I was being very helpful to others. I'm 43 years of age and I have five children, I don't need to be slapped on the hand for something silly.

Merci,

Mike Thellend

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Alkemyst Darkened Feb 16, 2005, 09:09am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Ok memory is testing, but I couldnt get the settings I wanted.

I am running 283 x 9, 1.55 CPU volts, 2.9 DIMM Volts, 3x HTT, the rest auto.

DDR400 setting freezes at the bios graphic. DDR550 gives me 183 FSB according to CPU-z memory page (2-3-3-5), DDR333 gives me 231FSB at 2-3-3-5, trying 1T-2-2-2-5 in the bios freezes prior to windows start page at DDR333 settings.

I am memtesting at DDR333 / 231 FSB now. Anyway to get this closer to the 283FSB my system is running.

Full system specs (needs to be updated with fsb speeds, etc) are at http://30moons.com/pc_chiapet_new.php

any advice?

Sander Sassen Feb 16, 2005, 09:10am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Mike,

I wasn't slapping you at all, there's just a flurry of posts from you and other users that contain good bits of info buried in a lot of text. It would help to keep the posts as brief and to the point as possible so users do not have to sift through all of that to come away with the info they need. Just a friendly reminder really, in the interest of the people looking for clues. But as I said, good info, keep it coming.

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Dutch60 Feb 16, 2005, 11:26am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Asus A8N-SLI FAQ
Hi Sander,

I ordered the following system:

Antec P160 Aluminium Casing
Enermax 600 Watt SLI power supply EG701AX-VE(W)SFMA
ASUS A8N SLI Deluxe Motherboard
AMD FX-55
2GB Corsair TWINX 3200 CL2
2x ASUS Extreme N6800 Ultra (450/600) in SLI
2x 400GB S-ATA HD in RAID-0
Creative SB Audigy 2 ZS
Plextor DVD-ROM
Plextor DualLayer DVD+/-RW

Can you foresee any trouble with the combination of hardware items I selected?
Specifically the Enermax power supply or the Corsair memory?

It will be delivered to me on Feb 19 2005 completely build by Informatique (a computer shop in the Nethetlands)!

Alkemyst Darkened Feb 16, 2005, 11:56am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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anyone know if a .24 amp fan can plug in to the CHIP_FAN header or CPU header? 120mm L1A is the fan....I am trying to avoid the CHIP_FAN error on startup (running a passive heatsink)

Sander Sassen Feb 16, 2005, 12:03pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Hans,

Well, it comes preconfigured, so if it doesn't work you can just send it back. Let us know if it works properly when you get it, as some of those parts, incl. the PSU and the memory, are known not to work in some configurations.

Sander Sassen
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Dutch60 Feb 16, 2005, 12:27pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Hi Sander,

The Corsair TWINX PC3200 CL2 Memory in named in the A8N-SLI Qualified Vendors List (QVL), so why do you aspect trouble?

On the Enermax site it specifically states that this Enermax EG701AX-VH(W)SFMA is an SLI power supply with I think plenty of power (600 Watt) to drive two GeForce 6800 Ultra cards?

O and by the way it's now Wednesday evening over here in the Netherlands and there is still no email from the shop, let's hope it will be ready for pickup by Saturday!

I will for sure let you know if it works, if it's here on Saturday!

Alkemyst Darkened Feb 16, 2005, 12:34pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Hans I believe he referred to the 2GB of it. Going more than 2x512 starts causing problems with performance (going 1T to 2T for instance, and looser timings).

Also in the world of power supplies especially now when a PSU rated at 30A 12V may actually be two 15A 12V.

Is there a reason you needed 2GB?

Dutch60 Feb 16, 2005, 12:43pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Hi Alkemyst Darkened,

Please follow the link and have a good read on why I did go for 2GB of memory!
http://www.techspot.com/tweaks/memory-winxp/index.shtml

Why would the Enermax product page state "Support nVIDIA SLI Technology"?
http://www.enermax.com.tw/products_page.php?Tid=1&gon=255&...mp;Gid2=42

Sander Sassen Feb 16, 2005, 12:48pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Hans,

That article is a load of horsesh*t, written four years ago and absolutely not current anymore. 1GB is all you need today, 2GB will slow things down as you need to relax timings a bit for the four DIMMs to work properly. As for the PSU, indeed the question is whether it is 30A at 12v from a single rail or 2x 15A from two rails. And most importantly does it have two 6-pin PCIe connectors powered off of a dedicated rail, or is it sharing that rail with a number of other devices.

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Sander Sassen Feb 16, 2005, 12:55pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Hans,

I looked at the specs for that PSU and it has two 18A 12v rails, this could be a problem. The only PSU that's officially certified currently is the PC Power & Cooling Turbo-Cool 510-SLI. I just received confirmation about this from Larry at PC Power & Cooling, see below. Unfortunately this PSU is not available in the Netherlands, so you next best bet is the Tagan TG480-U01 if the Enermax doesn't work. I'd call Informatique and ask what their experience with this Enermax PSU is.

"Sander:

Thank you for the kind words. Note we received Nvidia SLI certification this
week. Presently we are the only SLI certified power supply manufacturer.
Many others have tried but failed there testing suite. You will soon see us
listed here on the Nvidia site:

http://www.nzone.com/object/nzone_sli_certified.html

Regards,

Larry Aldridge
PC Power & Cooling, Inc."

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Dutch60 Feb 16, 2005, 01:00pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Hi Sander,

As you can see I only use 2 DIMM's of 1GB and not 4 DIMM's of 512MB to get 2GB and the DIMM's are in the ASUS QVL

Could you please enlighten me a bit more on the power supply issue????? (help)
Maybe you could have a look at the specs on the product page and tell me if I am in the clear?

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Edited: Feb 16, 2005, 01:13pm EST

 
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Sander thanks for this great board btw...

Hans, that 2001 article I read originally in 2001 or so actually :), it's way out of date and I don't believe is actually states to go to X amount of RAM there are also some problems people had with some of the settings it recommended (I forget exactly but I think it was having to do with the system cache vs programs optimization), but rather more is better than swap... keep in mind SLI is not a 'certification' on a PSU at this time like some of the others are. I think the only legal requirement they would have is having it be able to be connected in some way to a system with a pair of SLI cards and boot. Keep in mind also, that SLI with two 6600GT's is a whole other world than two power STARVING 6800 Ultras...for two 6800GT's the minimum is 20A....ultra's they call for 25A (with a FX55 and a mix of drives). You can see this on the power requirements section of http://usa.asus.com/products/mb/socket939/a8nsli-d/overview.htm#

BTW the 6600GT's in SLI call for 17A, so two rails of 18A would satisfy the PSU as SLI ready.

It's in the colored bar on the right side right below the motherboard picture (I missed this whole list of links until a few days ago).

Good luck though it's possible it will work....


Dutch60 Feb 16, 2005, 01:21pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Edited: Feb 16, 2005, 01:46pm EST

 
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Hi,

I found some more information on the Enermax site stating:

1. Dual +12V Rails
Independent 12V rails supply to MB/CPU and drives in order to provide stable and clean current
to noise-sensitive devices, such as: CPU, add-on cards.Meet UL 240VA safety requirements.
It also separate the motherboard rails and video card rails to ensure maximum power to your
PCI Express video card.

2. Support SLI
Our native SLI power connector are built on a separate rails to ensure a healthy dosage
of power to your SLI video cards. PCI Express Graphic card can consume up to 90W on
the +12 Rails.

+12v1 18A | 34A combine power
+12v2 18A |

* Cables Layout
- 20+4 Main Power
- P4 +12V CPU
- <b>2x 6 Pins PCI E Support SLI</b>
- 4x Serial ATA
- 7x HDD Power
- 2x FDD Power
- 1x Fan RPM Monitor

Now this sounds ok to me, but as I am only a software engineer by profession and not a surely not a hardware engineer me bay you gentlemen could please explain what this all means?

O and by the way could you also enlighten me on the EZ plug on the ASUS board and what kind of plug you need for that?

It is used by high-end PC manufacturer VoodooPC in their Rage SLI system
http://www.voodoopc.com/system/quoteKitchen.aspx?productID=101...ctTechID=1

Adam Miles Feb 16, 2005, 01:44pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Hey, I've been reading this FAQ for a while, great work, I've emailled ASUS a couple of times and got a couple of replies, it might be worth people having a quick read through, he gives a few short and interesting answers.

READ FIRST, and start from the bottom (my email):

http://vip.asus.com/eservice/techmailstatus.aspx?ID=WTM200502111733169563

For some reason the reply to my second email at the top isn't there, so here it is:

--- ASUS REPLY to second mail ---

"The Maxtor is a known issue, but you have to actually request the firmware from them due to the risk involved in updating it (like updating BIOS). There is however a new BIOS with updated SATA Bootrom information due out very soon...I don't know any further information than that though.

With regards to the overclockability, it has AI Overclock, PEG link, and other options, the extent of the overclockability was not promised and unfortunately some customers expect amazing overclocking abilities when the 1T overclock is still a good feature and is overclocking in action."


New BIOS to fix the Maxtor issue would be good, as for no guaranteed overclocking capabilities, that's fine, but it's obviously more of a flaw than a limitation of the board. We'll see what happens.

Adam Miles

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Now here is a highly recommended link to a [Hard]|Forum thread of the [H]ard|OCP site that has some very good reading on Power Supplies required for SLI systems!

***** http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=862178 *****

NEil Barrett Feb 16, 2005, 02:53pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Hi

I'm a noob so please excuse me if this is an obvious question.

I am building my 1st PC I have this motherboard and a Tagan TG480-U01 PSU .. my questionis that I have a 24pin connector which I have attached to the 24pin socket.

Then there is the ATX 12V socket near the CPU which I have attached one of the P4 cables to

and the other sockets are where they should be I believe ... The PSU has a grounding cable as well, this says it should be attached to one of the posts of the main board ... that is the bit that has me confused

Can anyone help and also do I have the other cables correctly attached.

Thanks

Pk Wasp Feb 16, 2005, 02:55pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Hi

I'm new to SATA HDDs/PCs (first new PC in about 4yrs), I have an ASUS A8N-SLI Deluxe with 1 SATA HDD installed on the Silicon Controller as part of a PC package from a shop.

If I want to reinstall Windows XP would I need to create an driver disk even though I've only got a single HDD + Windows XP currently has some sort Silicon Raid Software - is that necessary given its only 1 HDD?

Also I want to install a Wireless PCI card - any PCI slot should be ok?

thanks.


Alkemyst Darkened Feb 16, 2005, 03:10pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Hans: up to 90W on each rail will prove a problem for the PCI-E 6800 Ultras more than likely at times...they are spec'd at 110W max draw.

Todd Noway Feb 16, 2005, 04:17pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Pk Wasp*******

You do not need to F6 and use a floppy to install the driver on the OS when using 1 HD.
REMOVE the SATA cable from your SI controller and move it to the NV controller! (Its faster)


A8N-SLI Deluxe
AMD64 3700+ San Diego
XFX 6800GT PCI-X
2Gig Transcend PC3200 (2x1Gig)
Antec TRUE550-EPS12V
2x74G SATA 10K Raptors RAID0 on NV 128k stripe

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