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Whizzz AKA: SLI Scientist@Work Jun 05, 2005, 01:50am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Asus A8N-SLI Deluxe FAQ
Hi Catherine

Evidently, based on my Google search of "nforce4, Maxtor" it doesn't matter which NForce4 board you have, there are problems with the NCQ function of Maxtor SATA drives and the NForce controllers.
>Not so with everybody. Some can give problems and some wont, but haven't heard of one that couldn't get fired-up.

Any driver would have got you going, CD, 6.39, 6.5X etc. I'm glad to hear you're up and running.

Mike :)

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Jordan Hamilton Jun 05, 2005, 04:18am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Hi,

I have a really strange problem with my system, not so much the problem that is strange but how I get around the problem. The problem is this, while playing games the system freezes, I reboot the PC and the Asus Speech POST Reporter repeatedly spews "System failed memory test". I've tried replacing the RAM, systematically removing components and retesting and I've tried all variations of the DIMM sockets A1, A2, B1, B2. I found that if I remove the CPU and then put it back the system will boot up just fine and run for random time periods and then free again...??????

Please can anyone explain this.

System Specs (I know the ram is cheap):

XP SP2
AMD Athlon 64 3000+ Socket 939 Venice
ASUS A8N-SLI Deluxe - Bios ver 1008
RAM 2 x Micron 16VDDT6464AG-40BGB 512MB DDR PC 3200 3.0 0-3-3-8 (in slots A1 & B1)
80 GB Maxtor
Video Card: MSI 6600GT
LG DVD/CDRW
400 Watt PSU

Thank You.
JH


Paul Crook Jun 05, 2005, 06:16am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Asus A8N-SLI Deluxe FAQ
Back on page 150 I whined about not being able to boot to my RAID array. Mike responded by detailing how the configuration of the ASUS BIOS should be set up (thanks Mike). However, I had that all set up properly. I believe if I had misconfigured that part, I would have seen a DISK BOOT FAILURE or hang. The XP error I was getting was long, two paragraphs that I failed to copy down. The gist of it was "The system is misconfigured. XP can't boot. Go fix it."

I noticed that Paul Steel wrote back on April 26th:

> I had a few weird problems with Raid.
> I have 2x250GB disks set up using the Nvidia Raid set up (raid 0).
> I found that if I left the Silicon Raid controller active in the Bios
> (rev:1006) then the NVidia failed to pick up my disks.
> Solution was to disable the Silicon in the Bios and I run like that to
> this day.

So I tried disabling the Silicon Image controller and VIOLA! The "B [Set Boot]" option became enabled in the nVidia RAID BIOS utility and I was able to get a "Yes" to appear in the "Boot" column. Then I tried installing XP again and VOILA, it worked! The system now boots to my nVidia SATA RAID 0 array. Cool!

Thanks to all who responded.

Paul Crook Jun 05, 2005, 07:20am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Asus A8N-SLI Deluxe FAQ
To Jordan Hamilton:

Go to http://www.memtest86.com and get the latest mtest86, a free, open-source memory testing utility. It will run from a bootable floppy or CD-ROM and exhaustively tests and reports on memory errors. It also displays memory throughput for RAM and on-CPU cache. The site has a good "Troubleshooting Memory Problems" section that's worth reading.

Since your problem is intermittent, it might be heat related, so I'd run the tests overnight or longer. The utility fills memory repeatedly with a multitude of bit patterns trying to provoke errors. It can take a while to run through all the default tests and you can slow it down further by turning on all the test patterns.

It's most likely that removing and replacing your CPU is not what makes your system start running again. It's more likely that it has had time to cool down while you're disassembling it. I'd suggest you stop doing that.

You didn't say how your RAM was configured in the BIOS but I'd suggest you run in AUTO mode and let the DIMMs tell the motherboard how to configure themselves. If you've tuned these parameters by hand, it could be the cause of your trouble. You also didn't say if you're overclocking which could also cause freezing if you've gone too far.

Run the ASUS Probe utility (which comes on the motherboard CD-ROM) and notice the temperatures of the CPU and motherboard. It would be good to know how hot your system is running when the freezing occurs.

You mentioned that this happens when playing games. The harder you work the graphics card, the more current it will draw from the power supply and the hotter the system will become. If you have a thermal problem, game playing will exacerbate it.

This is less likely but, if your power supply is inadequate, voltages might drop and cause errors. Be sure you're using one of the recommended power supplies with a 24-pin connector.

Good luck.

Whizzz AKA: SLI Scientist@Work Jun 05, 2005, 09:11am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Asus A8N-SLI Deluxe FAQ
Paul Crook

Actually, I made a small mistake, I typed enable because I thought you had drives on both controllers. But I looked back and I see you took the two drives off the NV and put them on the SIL.

I always tell people to turn off any controller they're not using, can you find it in your heart to forgive me? lol
Had you had drives on both controllers as I thought you did, the BIOS settings I provided to you would have been correct.

Regards,

Mike :)

Hopeless Noob Jun 05, 2005, 09:12am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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I really gotta thank everyone who takes time out of their day to help me and others like me with this MoBo.

that said...
I checked and double checked my conections. both the square 4 pin and the 24 pin PSU connectors are indeed plugged in... I even tried booting with the additional 4pin "E-Z" connector plugged in. I was hopeful it was the bios and i just couldn't hear the beep through some mistake in hooking the speaker up. Unfortunately on closer inspection, not even the A drive light is comming on.. at all. I'm assuming it's either the MoBoard doesn't like the PSU i bought (Enermax 470W), I f**ked up something and don't realise it, or a have a bad board. are there any other things I could try before sending the board back? it is getting power as i said (internal led lights up and all fans spin), so i'm afraid i got a bad board at this point. Thoughts? ideas? Prayers?

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>> Re: Asus A8N-SLI Deluxe FAQ
Hopeless Noob

A Prayer!

>Turn off the power supply
>Remove the BIOS battery and leave it out.
>Make sure your CLRTC Ram jumper is set to pins 1 and 2, not 2 and 3.
>Remove cables (power and controll) to floppy, HD, DVD, CD remove any USB devices (mouse etc) and use standard connectors. (PS - if you can avoid using USB components it would help)
>Turn the power supply on and leave it on.
>Try to boot.

Let me know what happens

Mike :)
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Paul Crook Jun 05, 2005, 10:14am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Asus A8N-SLI Deluxe FAQ
Mike. I forgive you. :o) I think this means you just can't use the SI controller if you're booting to an array on the nVidia controller.

Hopeless Noob:

I once had symptoms very similar to what you describe, but long ago and on a different motherboard. It turned out that I had placed a metal motherboard stand-off in one of the positions in the case that did not correspond a screw hole in the motherboard. This caused some traces to be grounded and the board would not boot. Fortunately, I hadn't shorted a 5-volt supply line and melted inner traces; I apparently just clamped some logic lines to ground. When I removed the misplaced stand-off, the system booted up.

Just a thought.

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Edited: Jun 05, 2005, 12:41pm EDT

 
>> Re: Asus A8N-SLI Deluxe FAQ
Paul

Thanks for your forgiveness, I will sleep better tonight! lol

I think this means you just can't use the SI controller if you're booting to an array on the nVidia controller.
>I have 2 Raptor 10,000 RPM 74 GIG drives in RAID 0 on the NVRAID, and when I enable the SIL, it still boots fine.

Mike :)
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Jordan Hamilton Jun 05, 2005, 01:52pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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To Paul Crook,

Thanks for replying.

I have suspicions that it is not a memory issue, I have tried known good RAM using my original RAM, I have tried new RAM I picked up a day ago, RAM from 2 other PC's that friends are using. Could all this RAM be defective?

Heat issues - I have been running this machine with 2 case fans and both panels removed in a room where the temperature is less than 15% C. During gaming the temps are below 40 C. The system is running very cool, I can remove the CPU after shutting down with no worries of burning my fingers off.

RAM is set to AUTO in BIOS, everything in BIOS is set to AUTO. No overclocking or custom BIOS setup here.

I am using a 24 pin connector from the power supply, not an adpater but a true 24 pin connector, not that it probably makes any difference.

Thanks again to anyone who can help.

Thank You,

Jordan Hamilton

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>> Re: Asus A8N-SLI Deluxe FAQ
Jordan-
It is possible that the CPU is at fault. Remember that the memory controller is on the CPU. Anyway to test your CPU in another system or use another CPU in your system?

Merc
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Core 2 Duo Q6600 (3600MHz@1.46v)
Max OC 4050MhHz at 1.65v
1 x XFX 8800GTX XXX Watercooled
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2 x 150gb WD in Raptors in RAID 0
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Edited: Jun 05, 2005, 11:35pm EDT

 
>> Re: Asus A8N-SLI Deluxe FAQ
Hi!

The CPU communicates with the Chip Set (North Bridge) through PCB, and is known as the (FSB).
The Chip Set Communicates and Controls the memory, through PCB with signals, and is known as the (memory bus).

#3 or #4 (Dual Memory) - System Architecture
http://www.corsairmemory.com/corsair/products/tech/memory_basi...index.html

Mike :)

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Edited: Jun 05, 2005, 06:28pm EDT

 
>> Re: Asus A8N-SLI Deluxe FAQ
Jordan Hamilton

BIOS>
Advanced>
CPU Configuration>
DRAM configuration>

-Max Memclock (MHz)---------------[DDR400]
-1T/2T Memory Timing----------------[ 2T ]
-CAS# latency (Tlc)--------------------[ 3 ]
-RAS# to CAS# delay (Trcd)--------[ 4]
-Min RAS# active time (Tras)-------[ 8 ]
-Row precharge TIme (Trp)----------[ 4]
-Row Cycle Time (Trc)----------------[ AUTO ]
-Row Refresh Cycle Time (Trfc)---[ AUTO ]
-Write Recovery Time (Twr)---------[ AUTO ]
-Read-to-Write Delay (Trwt)---------[ AUTO ]

Give that a try!

Mike :)
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Oniko Medea Jun 05, 2005, 09:32pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Ok, from using the search function, I don't *think* this was covered before, but I'm not entirely certain as I didn't go through this whole thread (though I did use it to get through some other problems) ^_^

My computer booted into windows installation.... once. I turned it off as I had to run out and borrow a non-usb keyboard so the F8 "I-agree-to-microsoft's-terms key could be detected. After that, however, it's been freezing during boot. It runs through the table of PCI devices, stopping at ACPI (which has less data than the preceeding things but I don't know if that's normal), and hangs. The cd drive, oddly, is lit up as active.

This is my first build. The components are:

ASUS A8N-SLI Deluxe
eVGA 256-P2-N377-AX Geforce 6800Ultra
CORSAIR XMS 1GB 184-Pin DDR SDRAM
Plextor PX-712SA/SW-BL
Maxtor DiamondMax 10 300GB 7200 RPM

Thanks in advance. :-)

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>> Re: Asus A8N-SLI Deluxe FAQ
Oniko

This will help you find what you want.

http://www.google.com/

Copy and paste the following into the Google search box;

freezing during boot site:http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/38623

Mike :)

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>> Re: Asus A8N-SLI Deluxe FAQ
Oniko Medea

My computer booted into windows installation.... once. I turned it off as I had to run out and borrow a non-usb keyboard so the F8 "I-agree-to-microsoft's-terms key could be detected
>Click on Scroll Lock on the USB Keyboard and it will allow you to hit F8.

After that, however, it's been freezing during boot. It runs through the table of PCI devices, stopping at ACPI (which has less data than the preceeding things but I don't know if that's normal), and hangs. The cd drive, oddly, is lit up as active.
>Is your HD on the NVRAID or SIL?
>SATA Plextor? Might be an issue there. Do you have a standard IDE DVD drive you can use for now?

Sander Sassen Feb 19, 2005, 11:43 AM Message - Profile - Add Buddy - Alert Moderators
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Wayne,

As mentioned in the FAQ, SATA optical drives do not work, so it doesn't help trying.

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Joseph Gloria May 14, 2005, 06:06 PM Message - Profile - Add Buddy - Alert Moderators
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Hello,

Do we have support for SATA optical drive yet for this MOBO? I still have a Plextor 716SA in my case (not connected) on stand by.. I thought i'd wait for a fix.. tnx ppl.



PS - Maybe things have changed since then, new BIOS fix, or Plextor cooking up something.
I just might get that model and try to get it working myself, after all, I am a Scientist. lol!

Mike :)
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>> SLI with Sparkle 6600GT
First post:)
I've read thru most of the thread but I've not found an answer to my problem so I thought I'll ask.

I've got two Sparkle 6600GT's but the only way I can get them to enable multi-gpu is if I use the drivers that come with the cards.
The drivers are based on the 66.74 drivers.
If I install any other drivers the multi-gpu option disappears and the menu now shows GeForce 6600GT (1) and Geforce 6600 GT (2). This tells me that it reconised that there are two cards installed but I don't understand why the multi-gpu option isn't there.

Using motherboard bios 1010, I checked the bioses on the gfx cards and they are the same.
The only thing I noticed is when using the Sparkle drivers, when I enable multi-gpu I get a pop up msg saying my SLI connector isn't installed. I'm guessing that its either talking about the small SLI bridge thingy isn't installed (which it is) or its talking about the SLI card selector (which is set to duel cards).

Also using the Sparkle drivers and in SLI mode the computer usually freezes after a couple of mins when in games or when I try 3DMark.

Anyone got any ideas?

Spec below:
ASUS A8N-SLI Deluxe
Athlon 64 3800+
2x512MB Corsair Twin X XMS3200XL PRO 1GB
200GB Maxtor DiamondMax 10 (SATA)
2x 128MB Sparkle GeForce 6600GT PCI-E
Sound Blaster Audigy 2 ZS
420W Tagan TG420-U02

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>> Re: Asus A8N-SLI Deluxe FAQ
Adam,

I am really sorry to inform you that your video cards are not SLI enabled. I believe that 256 meg of memory is required for SLI video cards.

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Ross

Thats the first I've heard anything like that, are you sure thats correct?

Both the manual and Sparkle's website say the card is SLI ready.

If anyone else could confirm that would be great.

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>> Re: Asus A8N-SLI Deluxe FAQ
Adam-
The sparkle SPPX43 6600GT is listed as SLI Certified on Nvidia's site. Can you run Asus probe while running in SLI and see how your voltages look? Also, be advised that 1010 is Beta you may want to go back to 1008.

Merc
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