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Whizzz AKA: SLI Scientist@Work Jun 13, 2005, 10:22pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Asus A8N-SLI Deluxe FAQ
4Qman .

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Mike :)

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Edited: Jun 13, 2005, 10:34pm EDT

 
>> Re: Asus A8N-SLI Deluxe FAQ
Ray Logan

Create a link to a pic of your network connections (Show all connections)
And one of the network adaptors in device manager.
I see you have the SBC DSL link on your desktop, did you try to install the high speed yet?

Mike :)

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I've done a google search of this thread but havent found anything relevant so here goes,

AMD 64 4000+
2x Corsiar 1 gig in blue slots
leadtek winfast 6600 GT TDH in blue slot, selector on single.
sony black floppy drive.
Antec truepower 480
Antec P160 case

No hdd's or CDroms or second graphics card plugged in yet as I just want to upgrade the bios

The machine will power up, all fans start spinning, but then it powers off after about 5 seconds, No display on the monitor.

With a bit of trial and error, and changing which power cables are connected to which components (case top panel, case front light, case front fan, case rear fan) I was able to get to dos once.

One thing that may improve things is that at the moment the antec 20 pin connector is plugged into the 24 hole connector on the motherboard, (I'm expecting an adaptor in the mail anyday now to convert the 20 pin to 24 pin)

The other thing that I can think of is that originally I was going to get an AMD 64 3800+ and at the time the powers that be said that an antec truepower 480 w would be sufficient. Is it possible that the 4000+ cpu is drawing to much power?

is the lack of 20pin to 24 causing the problem?


Simon Voigt Jun 14, 2005, 01:42am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Asus A8N-SLI Deluxe FAQ
to answer my own query...
I went to check the mail and the 20-24 adapter was there :)

The machine still turns off after about 5 seconds, but if I wait another 10 or so seconds and try the front power button, it starts up again. I've managed to flash the bios to 1011, and am about to set up striping on 2 76 gig raptors. (stripe size anyone for MMORPG games like star wars galaxies and World of Warcraft?)

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Here's my setup. Asus A8n-SLI DX, FX55, XP-120 heatsink with thermaltake 93cfm 120 blue led fan, thermaltake 680w power supply, took off the chipset fan and put the Zalman chipset heatsink ZM-NB47J, 2 sets of 1GB dual channel G.Skill DDR400@2-2-2-5 and DR600@2.5">DDR600@2.5-4-4-8, Two BFG GeForce 6800 Ultra OC 512MB PCI Express, Two sATA 73GB Raptors raid 0 on Nvidia, One sATA 400 seagate set for storage on Nvidia, Two Lite-on 16X dual layer dvd burners both set as master on pri & sec IDE, Audigy 4 Pro, Musketeer 2, Enermax multi-function panel UC-9FATR2, All put in a Thermaltake Tsunami Dream VA3000 case with Two120mm Aluminum Evercool blue led fans, one for the front and one in backand changed the 92mm fan on the side window with a thermaltake 92mm 48cfm blue led fan. three 10" UV sata cables, two 10" UV round IDE cables and one 10" floppy cable. the trouble I am having is when I try and play a game in SLI mode the computer shuts off dead, not a reboot but a dead turn off, like I ripped the power cable out the back.but if i disable the SLI through the drivers and play with a single card it's fine.I tryed 3Dmark2001 and 2005 and farcry. in 3Dmark2001 it shuts down when the nature test starts and with 3Dmark05 at the end of the first test. and about 1 min into farcry.I then used live update and put in 1004 bios and same story, So then I wanted to put in 1011 bios and it tells me no asus board was found.Now i have been doing alot of reading on this forum and hope I could get some help please.

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Edited: Jun 14, 2005, 07:04am EDT

 
>> Re: Asus A8N-SLI Deluxe FAQ
Simon Voigt

My experience dictates 4K blocks, powerquest will back me up on that one!
"The New Technology File System (NTFS) is accessible by Windows NT/2000/XP. NTFS is not recommended for use on disks less than 400 MB because it uses a great deal of space for system structures.
The central system structure of the NTFS file system is the master file table (MFT). NTFS keeps multiple copies of the critical portion of the MFT to protect against corruption and data loss.
Like FAT and FAT32, NTFS uses clusters to store data files; however, the size of the clusters is not dependent on the size of the disk or partition.

+++++A cluster size as small as 512 bytes can be specified, regardless of whether a partition is 500 MB or 5 GB. Using small clusters not only reduces the amount of wasted disk space, but also reduces file fragmentation, a condition where files are broken up over many noncontiguous clusters, resulting in slower file access. Because of its ability to use small clusters, NTFS provides good performance on large drives.+++++"

Default cluster size when creating is usually 4 K anyway.

Mike :)

Simon Voigt Jun 14, 2005, 07:18am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Asus A8N-SLI Deluxe FAQ
Thanks Mike, I'll go with the default when I can. So far I've only been able to install xp 64 when it inadvertantly landed on an IDE disk.

When I try it on the nvraid (copying the .cat files from the cd and putting them on the Raid floppy disk) windows will install, but on reboot crashes with a blue screen that only stays up an instant.

I figure some xp64 friendly nvraid files will turn up somewhere..


Simon Voigt Jun 14, 2005, 07:59am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Asus A8N-SLI Deluxe FAQ
having just said that xp 64 doesnt work with nvraid (well with xp 64 on the raid) I'll try a dual boot with 32 bit xp pro and see if my milage varies.

Dave S. Jun 14, 2005, 08:29am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Ok I finally got the resst of the componets to finally sit down and put everything togerher. Setting everything went pretty well when I hooked up the monitor and eveything else and power on it starts up fine. Looks like everything is running.

I hit Del to go into the BIOS and I find out that my HDD and CD-ROM are not being seen by the comp. I'm not using SATA drives just a plain old WD 160 gig EIDE on the primary slot as the master and the SONY CD-ROM as the slave. At least it sees the Floppy.

My old comp was set up the same so I figured that it should work. (shurgs)

I have not updated the BIOS yet as I'm a bit confused as to how and what to dload on the ASUS site to put on the floppy. but I have a floppy with me here at work so if anyone can send a few pointers my way that would be great.

Oh and one more thing in the BIOS it says that the chipset fan was running around 9000rpm. Should I just let it run like that and wait till it craps out or try and replace it right off the bat.

Dave

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Edited: Jun 14, 2005, 11:08am EDT

 
>> Re: Asus A8N-SLI Deluxe FAQ
Re: Asus A8N-SLI Deluxe FAQ
Rookie 1

Disable NVRAID (Black Connectors) in the BIOS and disable the SILRAID (Red Connectors). Put your Drive on NV RAID SATA 1, and then you will most likely need to reformat the drive that will now show up in the MAIN BIOS window under 1st SATA Master no RAID enabled anywhere as you do not have a RAID system.

Mike




Thanks for reply Mike,
My drive is already plugged into sata 1(black connectors)With silicon image enabled in bios(nv raid disabled).
The silicon splash screen appears at boot up prompting me to press F? if creating an array(i press space to skip this)
Windows device manager states my drive is attatched to the silicon image sil 3114 controller.
Looking through the side of my case the drive is definately plugged into sata 1 black connector.
It seems that my board has the sata connectors colour cordinated wrong to what the the manuel states?
I'll try your advice tonight and report back however in order run my drive of the nv controller it will have to be connected to one of the red sata ports,black are definately silicon image on this board,weird huh?
Thanks again for the advice.




Merc Jun 14, 2005, 11:42am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Steel Kane-
First, that is one helluva setup! On the NVRaid controller in BIOS make sure that yoiu have just SATA 1 and SATA 2 enabled (I am assumimg that is where the 2 Raptors are installed and are in RAID 0). The port that the 300GB drive is plugged into should be disabled as it is not in the RAID Array. It will show up in BIOS then on SATA Master 3 (once again assuming that is where it is plugged in). I had a similar isssue until Mike straightened me out.

As far as BIOS is concerned see if you can get the system stabilized then flash to whatever BIOS you want with the Asus Flash tool from a floppy 9Asus site is up and down lately). Personally I have gone back to the 1008 BIOS as it seemed the most stable and the 1011 has given me a lot of trouble.

Merc
Modified Lian Li PC 7077A
Dual Watercooling Loops
Asus P5K Deluxe BIOS 0404
Core 2 Duo Q6600 (3600MHz@1.46v)
Max OC 4050MhHz at 1.65v
1 x XFX 8800GTX XXX Watercooled
2 GB Team Xtreme DDR2 800-PC6400
2 x 150gb WD in Raptors in RAID 0
1 x 640
Chris Domingue Jun 14, 2005, 03:02pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Are Sata 1 & 2 locked on this Board? Should I switch my Raid 0 to Sata 3 & 4 before raising FSB?
UPDATE TO MY MEMEMORY CONFUSION 1ST:
I finaly came accross Sanders' article about general overclocking last night and with that article and about 6 others, I think I'm starting to get comfortable enough to play with my settings (just a little bit).
The memory question I figured out. The problem was that since people write mem timings in a different order than how they are listed in my bios, that confused me. I've since gone to 2-2-2-5 T1 and its perfectly stable. I didn't raise my voltage, just left it at auto.

Since the mem bus and pcu bus are 1:1 on this chip and I'm already running HTP at 5x, I guess the only thing left to do is start raising the HT/FSB slowly and adding voltage accordingly. I've heard that this can cause problems to the SATA port 1 & 2 since they are not locked on some motherboards. Is this a problem on this board I have? And does it sound like I have an understanding of this stuff or should I keep rereading articles BEFORE I raise my HT/FSB. I only want to get my 55FX to 2.65 or 2.7.
Thanks,
Chris

AMD Athlon 64 FX 55 2.6 Ghz
Asus A8N-SLI Deluxe 1011 bios
Zalman CNPS7700-Cu Fan
1GB Corsair 1024-3200XL 2-2-2-5 T1
1 PNG G Force 6600 GT
Antec TruePower 550 EPS12V
2 x 74GB Western Digital Raptors Raid 0
Windows XP Professional Service Pack 2

A8N-SLI AMD X2 4800
4 WD74 Raptors RAID 0
NVidia 6800 GT
Creative Labs X-Fi
Sony DRX-820U
Plextor PX-760A
Todd Noway Jun 14, 2005, 03:38pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Asus A8N-SLI Deluxe FAQ
STRIPE SIZE

I am a gamer. Playing Battlefield 2 now. In RAID0 stipe testing on map load times on the game Battlefield Vietnman I found that a 128k stripe had the fastest MAP load times for me. I tried 16k, 32k 64k and 128k (this was a different motherboard but still SATA RAID0)
Benchmarking programs will tell you that the smaller stripe sizes give you better scores but for games and video editing I've found that 128k works best.

A8N-SLI Deluxe
AMD64 3700+ San Diego
XFX 6800GT PCI-X
2Gig Transcend PC3200 (2x1Gig)
Antec TRUE550-EPS12V
2x74G SATA 10K Raptors RAID0 on NV 128k stripe
Iain Brogan Jun 14, 2005, 04:22pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Hi Mike,

Not sure whether you check your hotmail, but I sent you an update email last night. Also have a new one just about to go. There seems to be a (wierd!) pattern emerging. It's the seeming unpredictability of it that worries me - like a child with a fever!

I'll be on MS Messenger later - assuming I'm not down with a BSOD! :D

Cheers,

Iain

Ryan Lynch Jun 14, 2005, 06:08pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Asus A8N-SLI Deluxe FAQ
I have the exact same problem that Robert loius' and Prolix have (pg. 83).

Ive tried to set up Raid 0 on both the Nforce hardware and Silicon hardware. Setting up the raid is no problem both utility's work great and status's were healthy. The problem inlays with Windows XP (SP2) detecting the drivers on the floopy disc. Ive installed both sets of drivers on 2 different floopys via the MKdisk utility's on the support CD. (\drivers\chipset\winxp_2k\driver_disk\ and \drivers\sil3114)

I press F6 during the beginning of the Windows XP install it loads a half dozen or so drivers and what not then asks me to

"Please insert the disk labeled
Manufacturer-supplied hardware support disk
into Drive A:"

"Press enter when ready".

I put the disc in and do as it says and it says "please wait" for approx 3 secs and then asks me to insert another disc. As if it detects nothing of use on the floppy.

I created the DISC itself on another computer I have. I have also tried different boot configurations such as Hardrive first, CD-Rom second. but if I do that the system hangs before the Windows CD will boot. So ive been using CD-Rom first then HD second.

I will check the msg board to see if anyone knows of a solution. Or you can email me at squirrelrevolution@gmail.com. TY.

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Cheers for reply and motivation Mike! I will try to change some of the settings, its funny because when I connect the router to the Marvell adapter, I get the LAN connection status to "Connected", though when connecting to the NV LAN I get the Status to Connected plus another Connection appears called "internet connection" which is set to disabled .. I tried to enable it, which then allowed me to connect with NV, but then the connection was dropped after some time .. I will look into this and post a reply when I get somewhere!

Once again, thanks !


Simon Voigt Jun 14, 2005, 09:44pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Asus A8N-SLI Deluxe FAQ
>Re: Asus A8N-SLI Deluxe FAQ
>to answer my own query...
>I went to check the mail and the 20-24 adapter was there

>The machine still turns off after about 5 seconds, but if I wait another 10 or so seconds and try the front >power button, it starts up again. I've managed to flash the bios to 1011, and am about to set up striping on >2 76 gig raptors. (stripe size anyone for MMORPG games like star wars galaxies and World of Warcraft?)

Discovered the cause of machine powering off. The Antec P160 powerbutton on bezel was slightly depressed. (machine was powering on as soon as rear power switch was on, and then machine powered down around 5 seconds later). At the moment I suck the button back out, but will probably rig up a tool using a pin :)

Mike thanks for your response re 4k size, (NTFS default?) but I was after the stripe size for nvraid, another user has suggest 128 for a graphics intensive game... I think SWG will benefit from that and will try it later.

My next step is to install xp 64 on the maxtor drive (non raid) so I can install the latest chipset drivers and hopefully extract the files needed for a F6 raid floppy so I can install xp64 to the raid.

Merc Jun 14, 2005, 09:47pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Ryan-
It sounds like your floppy drive has gone sour. Get a new one and try again. I ran into a similar issue and had to run down to compusa and get a new one. They're cheap though.

Merc
Modified Lian Li PC 7077A
Dual Watercooling Loops
Asus P5K Deluxe BIOS 0404
Core 2 Duo Q6600 (3600MHz@1.46v)
Max OC 4050MhHz at 1.65v
1 x XFX 8800GTX XXX Watercooled
2 GB Team Xtreme DDR2 800-PC6400
2 x 150gb WD in Raptors in RAID 0
1 x 640
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>> Re: Asus A8N-SLI Deluxe FAQ
Ryan an other thing to try, is to boot from the asus CDROM, it will give an option to create a raid driver floppy disk.

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here is an issue with 64bit raid drivers.

looking at the files in C:\NVIDIA\nForceWinXP64\6.39A\IDE\WinXP
in txtsetup.oem

;
; format for txtsetup.oem.
;
; Follow this format for non-PNP adapters ISA
;
; Follow the txtsetup.oem in initio for PNP adapters like PCI and ISAPNP
;
; Txtsetup.oem is a generic way to install Storage adapters to get them through
; textmode setup. Do as little as possible and allow GUI mode setup to do the
; remaining work using the supplied inf.
;
; General format:
;
; [section]
; key = value1,value2,...
;
;
; The hash ('#') or semicolon (';') introduces a comment.
; Strings with embedded spaces, commas, or hashes should be double-quoted
;


; This section lists all disks in the disk set.
;
; <description> is a descriptive name for a disk, used when
; prompting for the disk
; <tagfile> is a file whose presence allows setup to recognize
; that the disk is inserted.
; <directory> is where the files are located on the disk.
;
[Disks]
d1 = "NVIDIA RAID DRIVER (SCSI)",\disk1,\

; This section lists the default selection for each 'required'
; hardware component. If a line is not present for a component,
; the default defaults to the first item in the [<component_name>]
; section (see below).
;
; <component_name> is one of computer, display, keyboard, mouse, scsi
; <id> is a unique <within the component> string to be associated
; with an option.
[Defaults]
scsi = RAIDCLASS


; This section lists the options available for a particular component.
;
; <id> is the unique string for the option
; <description> is a text string, presented to the user in a menu
; <key_name> gives the name of the key to be created for the component in
; HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\ControlSet001\Services
[scsi]
RAIDCLASS = "NVIDIA RAID CLASS DRIVER (required)"
BUSDRV = "NVIDIA NForce Storage Controller (required)"


; This section lists the files that should be copied if the user
; selects a particular component option.
;
; <file_type> is one of driver, port, class, dll, hal, inf, or detect.
; See below.
; <source_disk> identifies where the file is to be copied from, and must
; match en entry in the [Disks] section.
; <filename> is the name of the file. This will be appended to the
; directory specified for the disk in the [Disks] section to form the
; full path of the file on the disk.
; <driverkey> this is the name that will show under the services\driver key
; this should be the same name as the driver that is being installed.
[Files.scsi.RAIDCLASS]
driver = d1,nvraid.sys,RAIDCLASS
inf = d1,nvraid.inf
dll = d1,nvraidco.dll
catalog = d1,nvraid.cat

[Files.scsi.BUSDRV]
driver = d1,nvatabus.sys,BUSDRV
inf = d1, nvatabus.inf
dll = d1,idecoi.dll
catalog = d1, nvata.cat

; This section specifies values to be set in the registry for
; particular component options. Required values in the services\xxx
; key are created automatically -- use this section to specify additional
; keys to be created in services\xxx and values in services\xxx and
; services\xxx\yyy.
;
; This section must be filled out for storage controllers that
; are PNP adapters like PCI and ISA PNP adapters. Failure to do this
; can cause the driver to fail to load. Must also add the section
; [HardwareIds.scsi.ID] to identify the supported ID's.
;
; <value_name> specifies the value to be set within the key
; <value_type> is a string like REG_DWORD. See below.
; <value> specifies the actual value; its format depends on <value_type>
;
[Config.RAIDCLASS]

[Config.BUSDRV]

; A HardwareIds.scsi.Service section specifies the hardware IDs of
; the devices that a particular mass-storage driver supports.
;
; [HardwareIds.scsi.Service]
; id = "deviceID","service"
;
; HardwareIds.scsi.Service
; Service specifies the service to be installed.
;
; <deviceId > Specifies the device ID for a mass-storage device.
; <service > Specifies the service to be installed for the device.
;The following example excerpt shows a HardwareIds.scsi.Service section for a disk device:
;

[HardwareIds.scsi.RAIDCLASS]
id = "GenNvRaidDisk","nvraid"
id = "*_NVRAIDBUS","nvraid"

[HardwareIds.scsi.BUSDRV]
id = "PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_008E", "nvatabus"
id = "PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0085", "nvatabus"
id = "PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_00D5", "nvatabus"
id = "PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_00EE", "nvatabus"
id = "PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_00E3", "nvatabus"
id = "PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_00E5", "nvatabus"
id = "PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0035", "nvatabus"
id = "PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0036", "nvatabus"
id = "PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_003E", "nvatabus"
id = "PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0053", "nvatabus"
id = "PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0054", "nvatabus"
id = "PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0055", "nvatabus"


sorry for the length of that, but the issue is that there are no catalog (.cat) files in this directory so the oem file causes the F6 raid driver to loop. I'll try commenting out the .cat file line and see if it will work.


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