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Simon Voigt Jun 15, 2005, 07:59am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Asus A8N-SLI Deluxe FAQ
commenting out the lines referrencing the non existant catalog files and copying the files to floppy was sufficient to successfully install xp 64 to raid.

Having done that the latest 64bit drivers from nvidia dont seem to allow for SLI, even though both graphics cards are installed and have no problems in the device manager.

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First post here...I'm sure it's been mentioned, but it would be nice (!!) to see a search function limited to a particular topic/thread...

Plain vanilla A8N-SLI install with odd troubles - anyone seen this?

Using A8N-SLI DX
Lian-Li PC-6077 + Enermax EG565P-VE
3800+ (130nm)
512MB x 2 Ballistix PC3200, auto timing
(one) eVGA 6800Ultra
(one) Raptor system drive on NV SATA1
NEC-3520A and BenQ DW1625 optical
Audigy 2ZS
XP Home

Note: NOT using SLI or RAID

Basically loaded everything up (XP, MS Office, updated drivers, SPs, etc.) under BIOS 1007. All came up fine, ran fine for days (was testing GPU temps to make sure that hardware would be stable under load).

Finally, when everything looked good, I loaded the nForce drivers. I think XP was able to use everything out of the box except for the NV LAN and RAID - both of which I don't really need. Shortly after I loaded the PCProbe. I waited on both of these because I felt they might inforduce complexity I didn't need, but was curious about the NV firewall features, and wanted PCProbe to measure CPU+board temps in XP (any suggestions for an alternative are welcome!)

Anyway, did some simple testing, then left on overnight, but just idle. Came back to find the sytem had rebooted and come up with "Windows XP could not start because the following file is missing or corrupt ....\SYSTEM" indicating a trashed registry. Not sure about why it bounced - the area isn't secure, and I'm on UPS where power events aren't logged - but I think it probably was spontaneous. Not sure that matters as much as what's gone on since. I suspect an onion of problems...

(1) Tried to boot on the XP CD to do a repair, and when it got to "Setup is loading (Enhanced Host Controller)" I get "The file usbohci.sys is corrupted", and Setup stops. I tried another XP disk, another optical drive, cables - same result. Tried the XP disks in other machines, and they're fine. Tried this with and without HDDs; after clearing CMOS; with default settings and other combinations; and on BIOS revs 1003, 1007, and 1011. Same exact result. found that setting "ACPI APIC support = Disabled" in BIOS got me past that point. My original had this "Enabled" and worked fine. This has to be something specific to my board (a user-unreachable byte in flash somewhere?) otherwise no one would be able to install XP!

(2) With the ACPI set off, Setup will continue, but when it gets to "Setup is Starting Windows" (immediately follows Setup is loading NTFS) the machine reboots. Nothing I've done changes that. Happens with or without hard disks attached, so it isn't the corrupted registry causing it. If I remember to bring in an old PCI VGA card, I might throw that in rather than the 6800U, but that's for tomorrow.

Again, temps and power are all good to the best of my knowledge. All assembly is done with anti-static measures. All these things are infinitely repeatable, so it has to be a configuration issue, and some aberration, because it worked fine to start. One thing I won't do if I get it back is to install the nForce drivers or PCProbe!

Any comments are appreciated!
- Gary

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Cool. Learn something every day - thanks!

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>> Re: Asus A8N-SLI Deluxe FAQ
Oooh, a FAQ about a brand of motherboard 161 pages long.

Anyways, I'm having trouble with my computer. It won't POST, and all I get is a 'Check Signal Cable' screen. Guess which motherboard I have. If you guessed A8N-SLI Deluxe, then you're some sort of psychic person or something.


My deck is:

CPU - AMD Athlon 64 3000+ Venice
Video Card - MSI NX6600GT 128 GDDR3 RAM
Memory: 1GB Kingston Value Memory (512x2)
Hard Drive: Samsung 160GB SATA
No operating system installed
Power Supply: XION 450W 20-Pin (adapter used to convert it to a 24-pin plug)


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@Todd Noway, I'm playing that BF2 demo and that game is awesome.
I'm at:
Asus A8N dex
2 MSI 6600GT
1GB Corsair
160GB --- here lies my question to you. I'm a noob to building PC, but big on military FPS. Is there a tutorial on whatever you said, that could "improve" my experience on BF2, coz, this game, maybe, the only game that I will buy above $30. Its that great of game.
I want to learn what you have done to make this game a better experience.
My vid option on this game is in all HIGH setting, I'm going to experiment to adjust AA to 4x---not sure what this option does, but it sound better. Sorry about me being a noob at this.

@Merc, my dial situation still sucks. Just found out my DSL modem is a bust---7 hrs dealing with tech support until they game a referral/case number before they finally decide to replace my modem. SBC DSL in case ppl are wondering. On the dial up end, AT&T accdg to out-source tech (no politics here) can't understand what he' saying - I don't know what to say to him= 4hrs of haggling. Going to be switching dial modems between my pc and see if I can nip this. Maybe a week on the replacement of DSL modem. If anyone can recommend a replacement DSL modem, pls let me know.

Thanks in advance




Simon Cole Jun 16, 2005, 04:16am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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I've tried setting up my new computer as Sander Sassen detailed on page 1 but from what I can make out on the thread it would seam that most agree that bios revision 1004.001 is the most stable and recommended to install so I didn't flash to bios 1007.
Unfortunately I don't feel that I was very successful, hence I have a few questions:

Q1. My motherboard reports to me bios revision 1004 with date 02/04/2005. What about the ".001"? So I downloaded revision 1004 from the Asus website and flashed the bios but it made no difference, still no mention about ".001"? So do I have it? What about the date?

Q2. I have 3 HDD's 2 Raptors and 1 Seagate. I plugged the 2 Raptors into Nvraid SATA 1 & 2 on the M/B and the Seagate into Nvraid SATA 3 sockets. I Enabled the Raptors in Nvraid Configuration First SATA & Second SATA in the bios. I created a Nvidia RAID0 and choose "Yes" for boot and then installed Windows choosing "Continue Anyway" with the unsigned driver install and ended up with drive C: as the Seagate, drive D: as the DVD-RW and drive E: as the Raptors! What did I do wrong? It now appears to boot from C: and the O/S is on E:? How can I change this around to have C: as the bootable Raptors with the O/S installed, D: as the Seagate and E: as the DVD-RW?
I have now observed that in the bios main page it says the Seagate drive is the "First SATA Master" even though it is plugged into Nvraid SATA3 on the M/B (Is this because the Raptors are now SCSI?) and under Boot --> Hard Disk Drives it lists them in the following order 1. Ist SATA-M Seagate, 2 SCSI-0: Nvidia Stripe, 3 Bootable Add-in Cards. What are these settings for? If I change the Seagate and SCSI around the computer halts on boot and asks for a floppy?

Q3. I installed Nvidia chipset drivers version 6.53 as Sander's instructions from the Nvidia website which says the IDE Nvidia version is 5.18 but when the computer boots it says IDE ROM Bios 4.81? What's the difference? Am I confusing two different things here?

Q4. I have installed Diskeeper 9.0 Pro and before defragmentation it said that I was using 99% of my MFT file and suggested to increase it, so I did. Now I have a huge file that is immoveable with information in fromt and behind it. How important is this file and what affect does the recommended size have on the system?

Q5. This might be a little off topic but when running 3DMark03 the system crashes half way through but runs the demo all the way through. The crash reboots to say "System has recovered from a serious error" message and that it has a "Signature error"? Could this be because I haven't activitated windows yet?

If anyone could help sort out this mess I've got myself into it would be much appreciated thank you.
Simon.

My System Specs:
Coolermaster Wavemaster Black
Enermax Noisetaker 485W PSU
Asustek A8N-SLI Deluxe
Athlon FX55 CPU
Kingston HyperX 1G XMS (2.2.2.5.1)
Western Digital Raptors x2 RAID 0
Seagate 160GB NCQ 2nd HDD
Leadtek Winfast PX6800Ultra TDH 256MB PCI-e
Hauppage PVR500MCE Dual TV Tuner
Sound Blaster Audigy 2 ZS
Microsoft Media Center 2005 Edition
Diskeeper Pro 9

Coolermaster Wavemaster, Enermax Noisetaker 485W PSU, Asus A8N-SLI Deluxe, AMD AthlonFX55 2.6Ghz, Corsair 2GB TWINX2048-3200-C2PRO, Raptors x2 RAID 0, Seagate 500GB, Leadtek Winfast PX6800Ultra TDH 256MB PCI-e, Hauppauge WinTV-HVR-200 PCI-e Dual TV Tuner,
Merc Jun 16, 2005, 09:03am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Ray Logan-
I agree, BF 2 is awesome and it is just a demo. Can't wait for the real thing to come out. I went to the 77.30 drivers that came with the demo and it cleared up all my video issues. Running in SLI at all highest settings, 4xaa and 1600x1200. 1600x1200 may not be buying me that much but what the hell, my system can do it so I am running there. Also, I reverted back to BIOS 1008 as my system is more stable and I can O/C my 6800GT's without the failures I was seeing with 1011.

AA=Anti Aliasing. It basically is a method for smoothing out the right angles on the pixels along the edge of an object. Look at a paint program and zoom in an an edge and you'll see a bunch of squares [each pixel] all along the edge of every object. AA smooths all those right edges out making things appear more realistic. 4xAA smooths 4 times.

That sucks re. the modems. I'm running off a wireless cable modem (motorola) that is now very stable. Plus it has a built in hardwore firewall so I have not installed the Nvidia's firewall and I have access for two PC/.s without running wires.

Merc
Modified Lian Li PC 7077A
Dual Watercooling Loops
Asus P5K Deluxe BIOS 0404
Core 2 Duo Q6600 (3600MHz@1.46v)
Max OC 4050MhHz at 1.65v
1 x XFX 8800GTX XXX Watercooled
2 GB Team Xtreme DDR2 800-PC6400
2 x 150gb WD in Raptors in RAID 0
1 x 640
Todd Noway Jun 16, 2005, 09:50am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Edited: Jun 16, 2005, 09:50am EDT

 
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Merc,
Do you have to enble AA in the Nvidia panel 1st then also change it in-game on the BF2 demo? I see there is an in game option but am not sure if it will work unless you "turn it on" outside the game.

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A8N-SLI Deluxe
AMD64 3700+ San Diego
XFX 6800GT PCI-X
2Gig Transcend PC3200 (2x1Gig)
Antec TRUE550-EPS12V
2x74G SATA 10K Raptors RAID0 on NV 128k stripe
Merc Jun 16, 2005, 09:55am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Todd-
1st load the 77.30 drivers (they are awesome) and then set the Nvidia Utility in performance to BF2 (already in there) which leaves all the settings to the game. When BF 2 loads it is defaulted to no AA so you have to set it up manually. 4xAA runs without a stutter on my rig (below)

Merc
Modified Lian Li PC 7077A
Dual Watercooling Loops
Asus P5K Deluxe BIOS 0404
Core 2 Duo Q6600 (3600MHz@1.46v)
Max OC 4050MhHz at 1.65v
1 x XFX 8800GTX XXX Watercooled
2 GB Team Xtreme DDR2 800-PC6400
2 x 150gb WD in Raptors in RAID 0
1 x 640
Ron Reicher Jun 16, 2005, 10:51am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Hi guys. Im having a weird problem. My hardware:

Athlon64 3700+ 1MB Cache 2200MHz
A8N-SLI Deluxe
MSI X850XT Platinum Edition
2xGB DDR400 Kingston (4x512)
1xRaptor 74Gb
2xSeagate 300Gb
Sound Blaster Audigy 2 ZS (disconnected)
Thermaltake 480W Silent PurePower

All my Hard Drives are connected to the Silicon with NO RAID. Just JBOD.
-------------------------------------------------------------------

When Im using Windows, Internet, E-mail, etc, ... Everything is fine, but when Im running Games, the computer always freeze. Sometime in about 5 minutes, sometimes in 2 hours....

I've tryed the MSI video Drivers and the ATI Driver. Same thing.

I have the latest Nforce drivers (6.53).

I've tryed running with my SB and the onboard Audio. Same problem!

When Im running 3DMark 2005, it DOESNT freeze, and I got a 5980 score.

Any suggestions????

I appreciate it,

Ron

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Edited: Jun 16, 2005, 11:18am EDT

 
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Ron Reicher-
I would bet that it has somthing to do with your RAM. What settings are you running? AMD -64 CPU's cannot utilize all 4 RAM slots at DDR 400 speeds when the 4 slots are filled with dual sided DIMMs (which 512 DIMMs are) You'll probably have to decreae speeds to 333MHZ and 2T timing (Mike can help you more with this as he has gotten the best speeds out of the 4 DIMM scenario).. Alternatively you can try 1GB of RAM in 2x512 configuration at 400MHZ DDR, best speeds, with DIMMs in just the blue slots (A1 B1). Give one of thses a shot and see if it clears up the problem and if so you can start experimenting with the best timings with the most RAM. Mike made an extensive post re. this a while ago.

Merc
Modified Lian Li PC 7077A
Dual Watercooling Loops
Asus P5K Deluxe BIOS 0404
Core 2 Duo Q6600 (3600MHz@1.46v)
Max OC 4050MhHz at 1.65v
1 x XFX 8800GTX XXX Watercooled
2 GB Team Xtreme DDR2 800-PC6400
2 x 150gb WD in Raptors in RAID 0
1 x 640
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Edited: Jun 16, 2005, 11:24am EDT

 
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Marvin Man-
Does the green LED on the mobo come on? Are the fans spinning, do you have any BIOS beeps at all? If the LED is on, the BIOS beeps once and fans are spinning then it is POST'ing but you have the wrong cable on your monitor. That is a cable problem, not a A8N SLI Del. problem. If no beeps or LED etc. then there is a power problem. Make sure you have the 4 pin P4 plug installed just above the CPU and you have power to your Video card if it is required and that the 20-24 adapter is hooked up correctly and isn't itself bad.

Merc
Modified Lian Li PC 7077A
Dual Watercooling Loops
Asus P5K Deluxe BIOS 0404
Core 2 Duo Q6600 (3600MHz@1.46v)
Max OC 4050MhHz at 1.65v
1 x XFX 8800GTX XXX Watercooled
2 GB Team Xtreme DDR2 800-PC6400
2 x 150gb WD in Raptors in RAID 0
1 x 640
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Edited: Jun 16, 2005, 02:23pm EDT

 
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S Cole-
Q1 BIOS is showing up fine. I'd suggest that you fash to 1008 though as it gives more control over some settings and ironed out some SLI issues. Also it is very stable. Others liked 1006 but 1004 wasn't a keeper from what I remember. I had problems with 1011 but that may just be me.

Q2 Sounds like you did everything right up until you started partitioning the drive. I would suggest that you start over by setting BIOS to boot order to CDROM/Removable/Hard Drive, install the XP CD ROM and then turn off the system. Plug just the two Raptors in the "bottom" two SATA ports, start up and see where BIOS reports them (it will post with no OS). If BIOS is reading the two drives correctly (1st SATA master and 2nd SATA master) then reboot and do a full reinstall of windows (on your rig it will only take about 20 minutes). Reinstall the RAID Drivers with F6 as a full reinstall will wipe the disk clean. Partition your RAID drives (the 2 Raptors) as C: and your DVD and CDROM as X and Y drives. After windows has loaded and you have udated it you can install the rest of the drivers. When you have everything stable, install the remaining hard drive as D:

Personally I partition my RAID 0 as C: 10MB and install just windows there, D: as 5 MB for utilities and virus, E: 130MB for games/programs, F: 2MB for drivers and CD and DVD as X and Y. Keeps Windows segregated and allows for faster defragging. it also puts the least accessed stuff on the slower part of the drives.

Q3 is reading as it should.

Q4 Not sure what that program has to do with the MTF. I'd let windows handle it.

Q5 See if this is fixed when the disk situation is resolved.

Merc
Modified Lian Li PC 7077A
Dual Watercooling Loops
Asus P5K Deluxe BIOS 0404
Core 2 Duo Q6600 (3600MHz@1.46v)
Max OC 4050MhHz at 1.65v
1 x XFX 8800GTX XXX Watercooled
2 GB Team Xtreme DDR2 800-PC6400
2 x 150gb WD in Raptors in RAID 0
1 x 640
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<i>Marvin Man-
Does the green LED on the mobo come on? Are the fans spinning, do you have any BIOS beeps at all? If the LED is on, the BIOS beeps once and fans are spinning then it is POST'ing but you have the wrong cable on your monitor. That is a cable problem, not a A8N SLI Del. problem. If no beeps or LED etc. then there is a power problem. Make sure you have the 4 pin P4 plug installed just above the CPU and you have power to your Video card if it is required and that the 20-24 adapter is hooked up correctly and isn't itself bad.</i>

Green LED is go, the fans spin, and I do recieve BIOS beeps. Just not when everything's hooked up. I know I can recieve BIOS beeps because I tested the computer without memory. I do not recieve a single beep, just silence.

I checked the P4 plug, it is in nice and tight. Video card is running fine, and I just bought the adapter off of Newegg a week ago.

I think it may be the PSU.

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the power supply I have is a thermaltake 680watt, and has 15amp on the 12v rail (1), 15amp on 12v rail (2) and 8amp on 12v rail (3). and the video cards are 2 6800 ultras with 512mb, and when in SLI mode the computer shuts down. and out of SLI mode it runs everything with no trouble. could it be that the power supply is not strong enouf to run both cards.I would like to get some thoughts on this from others, please reply.

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Steel Kane-
That is enough PSU to run your rig and two Dell 2400's. LOL. Do both Ultras have the same BIOS? If not you may need to flash them to the same level. If the BIOS matches have you tested both Ultras in the #1 slot to make sure both cards are good? Of course make sure the SLI bridge is in place and fits snuggly.

Are you overclocking the 55FX? If so set it to auto and try with no overclocking. How about the RAM? Let the system run it from the SPD chip on the RAM till you establish stability in SLI. Try to flash BIOS 1008, I seem to have had the best luck with that version as far as stability is concerned.

Merc
Modified Lian Li PC 7077A
Dual Watercooling Loops
Asus P5K Deluxe BIOS 0404
Core 2 Duo Q6600 (3600MHz@1.46v)
Max OC 4050MhHz at 1.65v
1 x XFX 8800GTX XXX Watercooled
2 GB Team Xtreme DDR2 800-PC6400
2 x 150gb WD in Raptors in RAID 0
1 x 640
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Marvin Man-
So everything is good until you install what piece of gear? In other words, at what point does the system stop posting? Is it when you install the RAM, the hard drive or what? And yes I would expect that the PSU is probably not going to work with your setup as I couldn't even get specs on it from a google search. SLI mobos are notoriously sensitive to power problems and require a fairly high quality supply. Sander has a list of acceptable supplies on the first page and I have had luck with the Fortron Blue Storm 500. Get a ATX 2.0 24 pin power plug, a PCI express power plug and 2 SATA drive power plugs as standard with 400 watts and 12v @ 20 amps. These are the MINIMUM specs I would look for and would suggest 450 watts with dual 12 volt rails at around 30 amps combined as a better solution.

Merc
Modified Lian Li PC 7077A
Dual Watercooling Loops
Asus P5K Deluxe BIOS 0404
Core 2 Duo Q6600 (3600MHz@1.46v)
Max OC 4050MhHz at 1.65v
1 x XFX 8800GTX XXX Watercooled
2 GB Team Xtreme DDR2 800-PC6400
2 x 150gb WD in Raptors in RAID 0
1 x 640
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I will try all, I read that the 6800 ultras need at least 18amp on the 12v rail. BFG even told me this and the thermaltake only has 15amp on the 12v rail. that was why I thought the power supply was not strong enouf.

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Steel Kane-
That may be corrrect but I would think that they are saying 18 amps minimum with the expectation that the CPU and mobo will be on the same line and combined will require around 18 amps. That is a very powerful supply and shouldn't be an issue.

Merc
Modified Lian Li PC 7077A
Dual Watercooling Loops
Asus P5K Deluxe BIOS 0404
Core 2 Duo Q6600 (3600MHz@1.46v)
Max OC 4050MhHz at 1.65v
1 x XFX 8800GTX XXX Watercooled
2 GB Team Xtreme DDR2 800-PC6400
2 x 150gb WD in Raptors in RAID 0
1 x 640

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