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Tom Lewis Sep 02, 2005, 01:15pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Asus A8N-SLI Deluxe FAQ
Thanks for all the help Merc. For my first troubleshooting test I've followed your advice. I uninstalled everything relating to Creative and removed the Audigy card and all of its drivers. I'm still going to check the board for shorts to get the onboard sound hopefully functioning correctly but for now this is just a test to determine my stability. For now I'm leaving the onboard audio disabled and just running the computer for stability. Also, I'm running at my CPU stock 1.8ghz speed and I've dropped the voltage on the memory down to 2.7. Essentially every one of my BIOS settings is indentical to the orignal FAQ recommendations.

If I'm not mistaken if this fixes the instability it could either indicate a) indaquete PSU as I've removed the Audigy card and my Sennhesier HD280 headphones which would take a reasonable load off the PSU or b) the soundcard itself was causing the instability. Hopefully it's just the PSU because with my short time using onboard audo the quality of the sound I felt was really lacking, especially in the lower frequencies.

Also, I've found the exact model PSU I'm using so you could look it over and let me know if you see anything inadaquete in regards to the voltage or amperage it's putting out.

http://www.maddogmultimedia.com/products/techietoyz/power-SurePower_350.asp

Thanks again for the assistance Merc, I appreciate it.

edit: and on a quick side note, I had the system running a Azureus last night (torrent program) at an underclocked speed and it managed to hang up not once but twice, so my system seems to be instable at even a declocked CPU speed.

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Elliot Shiu Sep 02, 2005, 02:16pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Asus A8N-SLI Deluxe FAQ
I have my Sil sata controler enabled and I have one harddrive plugged into it. When Windows comes up, it doesn't show up in My computer or the disk management section of computer management. I have all the drivers installed. I was able to open up Sil's raid controller program and create a single drive raid array (don't ask me..) and then my hd shows up. How can I make it show up without setting it as a raid drive so I can use it with other computers? Or is that the only way....

Thanks

Tom Lewis Sep 02, 2005, 03:42pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Asus A8N-SLI Deluxe FAQ
A little under an hour after restarting my computer after removing the Audigy the computer decided to freeze again, same freeze as always. Restarted and lastest for less and crashed again. The really odd thing though I've noticed now is I don't seem to freeze when I'm playing a game such a Battlefield 2 with nothing in the background, it seems I can play for hours without an issue. However when I load up my torrent program, a Mozilla window and maybe Windows Media Player that's when I get a crash. I'm beginning to become supicious of torrent programs in general as both Azureus and BitComet seem to manifest these crashes.

As a test I ran Azureus and then immediately ran Battlefield 2 (absolutely nothing else running in the backgroud). I was partly though the intro movie and then BAM I'm frozen (can't see my mouse pointer but I assume it's the same crash). It almost seems like running a torrent program might be the source of my crash (since I usually have it running when in Windows or idle, but never when gaming). Perhaps it might be the Marvell port, so I've disabled it in the BIOS and I'm now running my internet through my Nforce Networking port. Also I'm going to cease running any sort of torrent program for the moment to see if that halts my crashing.

Also, one other thing I might mention and just grasping for straws at the moment:

Here is a screenshot of an expanded view of my device manager, one anomaly I've noticed is a strange unknown device, mind you I've got next to nothing in my computer, bare bones infact with only 1 DVD/CD drive and no floppy drive, no USB devices so I have absolutely no idea what it could be and Windows automatic update online driver search is just as clueless as I am.

http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/4347/unknown2yv.jpg

Elliot Shiu Sep 02, 2005, 04:14pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Asus A8N-SLI Deluxe FAQ
-Tom

That unknown device is some Asus ACPI thingy that works with the AI Booster and NOS, I can't install drivers for it too because they only have win2000 drivers or something.

Merc Sep 02, 2005, 06:21pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Tom-
Aren't the Torrent programs huge memory hogs? I know that BF2 is, and running BF2 and Torrent together, hell running anything w/ BF2, could easily cause a freeze up, especially w/ just 512MB of RAM. I have 2GB of RAM and BF2 takes up to 1.4 of it at peak usage.

You can check this by opening Windows Task Manager (ctrl/alt/del) and under Commit Charge there is a subheading labeled Peak that shows the max amount of memory used during the current windows session. BF2 used 1.35GB during this session on my rig. Check that out with Bit Torrent running. Then run BF2 and see what you get.

Merc
Modified Lian Li PC 7077A
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Asus P5K Deluxe BIOS 0404
Core 2 Duo Q6600 (3600MHz@1.46v)
Max OC 4050MhHz at 1.65v
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2 x 150gb WD in Raptors in RAID 0
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Tom Lewis Sep 02, 2005, 07:43pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Yeah well I never actually planned to get into Battlefield 2 I just wanted to see what would happened if I idled around at the main screen with Azureus running. And yes, BF2 is a huge memory hog and so is Azureus but with my BF2 I'm using a combination of medium and high settings (namely medium on texture) and the peak ram usage doesn't go above 650 on my system (I know this because I had a 256 meg stick on this system intially that is now out of the case for troubleshooting purposes because of a varience in the latency). Azureus alone takes 60-80 megs as it is a very bloated program.

However it really seems I have fixed my crashing issue as I've been running Azureus now plus other applications with the Audigy reinstalled now for about 4 hours without an issue. The two options that seemed to fix it for me were a huge oversight on my part. In the BIOS I finally took the original FAQs advice and bagged that Marvell for the Nforce, and while I was doing that I noticed to my shock and amazement that the Silicon SATA stuff was still enabled.

Maybe it's removing the Marvell that made the difference and maybe it was the disabling the Silicon SATA, don't want to jinx it though. :)

This a great board, but never had so much trouble getting a system to run smoothly before. Seems this board has almost too MANY features for its own good. I'll make sure to keep you updated on if I happen to crash again but I'm feeling positive this time around. Thanks for all the help.

Matthew Chestnut Sep 02, 2005, 10:02pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Asus A8N-SLI Deluxe FAQ
Tom,

In regards to your use of the Nvidia NIC, what driver are you using? I am unable to get the Nvidia LAN v4.8.2.0 to function, but my Marvell v8.35.2.3 driver is working great.

Matthew

Tom Lewis Sep 02, 2005, 10:10pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Asus A8N-SLI Deluxe FAQ
Using the same 4.8.2.0 driver dated 4/6/2005 that comes with the lastest chipset driver bundle and it works great for me.

On an related note now using the nForce networking controller system has been stable over 8 hours now since the modification was made. Running a multitiude of applications and games all the while having Azureus going without a hitch.

dinesh singh Sep 02, 2005, 11:57pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Asus A8N-SLI Deluxe FAQ
mr merc:-
both my cards are ok.......i have checked with single card mode in first (blue) slot....and it gives no display but installing the same card in second that is black slot gives me display.installing any other card on first slot too dont give display....so cards are ok but mobo must be having some problems.....i think the first pci ex slot has died thats why system has revertet display to second slot.any way u guys just tell me one thing....have u ever got display from the second slot???????? coz in the manual its clearly written that only first gpu can be used for display.


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>> PCI-Bus not locking to 33.33MHz
Hello,

A8N-SLI deluxe problem: it is ignoring the PCI Bus setting in the BIOS where I set it to 33.33 MHz. (not AUTO, or With CPU)

When I use systool or Clockgen to check it, it is not locked at all, but scaling with the FSB. What am I missing?

I have one IDE hard drive in there, and AFAIK it is bad news to overclock the PCI bus at all.

I don't know whether this broke when I upgraded to bios 1013 a week ago, and I just didnt notice it, but previously when you set it at 33.33 it always read as 33.34 in software, no matter what you did to the FSB.

Am I worrying about nothing running it at 39.73 MHz, or asking for trouble?

Thanking the experts in advance...

David.

Gareth Evans Sep 03, 2005, 01:12pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Asus A8N-SLI Deluxe FAQ
Hi,

Bought this mobo and tried to build a new pc today.

When I turn the power on the main case fan spins for a split second then stops.

I've tried removing all the other components - ram, cpu, hard disks, etc.

The CPU is a Jeantech 500w with one 12v rail - 18A.

So the fans stop immediately even with nothing else plugged in to the mobo and I can't get any sort of debugging done as it won't post.

Any ideas?

(I've cleared the CMOS already by the way)

david cole Sep 03, 2005, 03:17pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Chipset fan problem is returning on the new fan!

Today, the replacement ASUS fan started growling and varying speeds. This is the way the original fan started acting before it finally died. I have had the replacement fan in for about seven weeks, two of which I was away on vacation. Has anyone else started having this problem with the newer fan, or am I the one and only?

Temperature observations:
Asusprobe indicates that in general I am running about 4 to 7 degrees warmer with the newer fan than the original. With original fan, Asusprobe reported about 38 to 42 degrees for both CPU and MB. Now I see 45 to 51 degrees all the time.

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Merc Sep 03, 2005, 04:06pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Edited: Sep 03, 2005, 04:07pm EDT

 
>> Re: Asus A8N-SLI Deluxe FAQ
Dinesh-
I agree, it sounds like your PCIe slot has, for some strange reason, died. I 'd RMA the mobo to Asus.

Merc
Modified Lian Li PC 7077A
Dual Watercooling Loops
Asus P5K Deluxe BIOS 0404
Core 2 Duo Q6600 (3600MHz@1.46v)
Max OC 4050MhHz at 1.65v
1 x XFX 8800GTX XXX Watercooled
2 GB Team Xtreme DDR2 800-PC6400
2 x 150gb WD in Raptors in RAID 0
1 x 640
Tom Lewis Sep 03, 2005, 04:11pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Asus A8N-SLI Deluxe FAQ
David -

I wouldn't think a bad chipset fan would be the only cause of your heat issues because both your CPU and chipset temperatures have risen. I know from personal experience when I was removing my case diagnosing some hardware problems that when I would leave the door fan on my case unplugged (because it's such a pain to plug it in) I'd get a drastic increase in the temperature of both of chipset and CPU by about 7-8 C or more. So maybe your chipset fan is dying, but make sure you check all of your case fans and make sure they are spinning and also make sure they aren't clogged up with dust and other debris. I know that especially with a higher RPM CPU fan for overclocking that you've gotta pull them out of the case every couple of months because they get absolutely clogged up with dust and it shows as the temperature on the CPU will begin to rise drastically.

Merc Sep 03, 2005, 04:15pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Gareth-
What are your full system specs. Especially how many HDDs and how many and what kind of video cards have you hooked up. 18 amps on the 12v rail is probably enough for 1 HDD, 1 CDROM, 2 sticks of RAM and a 6600GT or 6800nu. Anything additional and you would be really pushing the PSU limits.

When you reset the CMOS/BIOS are you doing it with the PC unplugged from the wall? ALso, diod you use standoffs when you mounted the mobo?

Merc
Modified Lian Li PC 7077A
Dual Watercooling Loops
Asus P5K Deluxe BIOS 0404
Core 2 Duo Q6600 (3600MHz@1.46v)
Max OC 4050MhHz at 1.65v
1 x XFX 8800GTX XXX Watercooled
2 GB Team Xtreme DDR2 800-PC6400
2 x 150gb WD in Raptors in RAID 0
1 x 640
Merc Sep 03, 2005, 04:19pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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David-
I had a similar chipset temp rise after installing the new fan. I checked with others and same story. SO lets see, the first fan is loud and then dies. The replacement doesn't cool very well and dies too. WTF this sucks. Asus better get this right.

Merc
Modified Lian Li PC 7077A
Dual Watercooling Loops
Asus P5K Deluxe BIOS 0404
Core 2 Duo Q6600 (3600MHz@1.46v)
Max OC 4050MhHz at 1.65v
1 x XFX 8800GTX XXX Watercooled
2 GB Team Xtreme DDR2 800-PC6400
2 x 150gb WD in Raptors in RAID 0
1 x 640
Elliot Shiu Sep 03, 2005, 09:37pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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I have my Sil sata controler enabled and I have one harddrive plugged into it. When Windows comes up, it doesn't show up in My computer or the disk management section of computer management. I have all the drivers installed. I was able to open up Sil's raid controller program and create a single drive raid array (don't ask me..) and then my hd shows up. How can I make it show up without setting it as a raid drive so I can use it with other computers? Or is that the only way....

Thanks

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Edited: Sep 04, 2005, 12:20pm EDT

 
>> Re: Asus A8N-SLI Deluxe FAQ
Hi, I was hoping someone may be able to help me with a rather severe problem. I bought an A8N-SLI Deluxe back in january. Everything was absolutely fine for a few months until I saw a flash and bang through my case window when I was playing a game. My PC seemed dead but I replaced the cheap PSU with a decent one (for once) and it seemed to work again.

Over the next couple weeks, the onboard sound would physically fail somehow and a spring to life again over periods of several days. Then one evening I was playing a game and it crashed. The reboot came, then the error code for a vga failure. I had a 6800 GT but after that crash it appeared to be fried. I used a rubbish PCI video card up until recently when I could aford a new 6800 GT. I put that one in, but about 10 minutes into a 3d app the same fate befell that card too. I have a warranty on this one, however, so it's in the process of being replaced.

So, I am back on 10-year-old PCI graphics and I can only see the motherboard as the problem so I'm trying to get it RMA'd. But I don't want to blindy stick in another 6800 without seeking some advice. Does anyone know exactly what kind of abuse a 6800 takes in order to be damaged like this? I mean, it has it's own power circuitry and all and is at stock speeds(something like a surge of voltage on the power input, or a dangerously functioning PCI-E slot in that same manner?). 2D was fine, 3D worked fine until they died, and the only two things I can see in contact with the cards were the motherboard and the new PSU through the 6-pin extra power adapter. I want to be able to rule out my new PSU. Also, the onboard sound problem is surely a sign of something wrong. Definately not software based, no OS I tried could physically detect the device. I have found now that when it turns itself off, I can pull out and plug in different power connectors, for example the EZ connector thingy on the mobo, between reboots and the onboard sound will come on again.

It just seems such odd behaviour to me and I would like to be able to confidently say it is solely the the motherboard. Any insight would be a great help.

Ricky Mcdonnell Sep 04, 2005, 12:32pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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i got a replacment fan from asus (chipset)
and i can't get it on i dont wanna take my board off

Merc Sep 04, 2005, 10:42pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Ricky-
There is no way to replace that fan withput removing the mobo from the case.

Merc
Modified Lian Li PC 7077A
Dual Watercooling Loops
Asus P5K Deluxe BIOS 0404
Core 2 Duo Q6600 (3600MHz@1.46v)
Max OC 4050MhHz at 1.65v
1 x XFX 8800GTX XXX Watercooled
2 GB Team Xtreme DDR2 800-PC6400
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