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david cole Dec 02, 2005, 02:54am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Asus A8N-SLI Deluxe FAQ
Chipset fans....
Is there any indication that the fan on the new Premium model is any better? I've had two fan failures so far on the deluxe board.

ASUS said that they would send me a new fan in one email, and then I got another email a day or so later giving me an RMA number apparently for the complete motherboard. Not sure whether to send it in or not. Also I ordered a Pabst fan ($25 with shipping) that arrived today. Several choices to make now, but won't really have time to think about it or strip unit apart till Monday.
My computer is down dead anyway - went black screen while fan was running slow (1200 rpm) after a manual flip start. AsusProbe temps never went above 44 degrees (motherboard reading). I think it is the video card as its fan is not running as of that moment. Cooling fans kept running, so I guess it is back to the drawing board in diagnosing problems. This is second eVGA Ultra video card as first died last summer.
I'm very disappointed overall with the unreliability of the total unit. In six months I have only loaded two programs for real use (not counting OS or security programs). Still using my old computer for almost everything.

A8N-SLI Deluxe, FX-55, Win XP Pro - was main, being rebuilt after electrical storm
Sabertooth x58, i7-950, Win 7 Pro, ENGTX460CU TOP, 12GB GSkill, 12GB SSD, 1GB + 2GB HDD @ 6GB/s - main computer
P5Q-E, e8500, Vista 64 - secondary computer
Two P5Q Pro,
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El Dec 02, 2005, 10:02am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Yes, I believe I do have the copper version, but i couldn't find that one on Newegg so i just posted the one they had because it was the same design.
Once you receive the fan you'll see exactly where you need to saw. I basically took it down as much as i felt comfortable on BOTH sides. you're gonna need all the extra room you can get. even after doing this it still barely fits. taking some plastic off the power plug there helped too. due to the hole pattern being a bit wider i used springs around the screws on both sides of the motherboard to compensate for the weirdness this created.
I'm sure there are other ways of installing this fan. Actually bringing the hole pattern in tighter with a drill attachment comes to mind.
Good news: The Vantec fan is cooler and quieter than either Asus crap fan. I think (and *&%#ing hope!) it'll be reliable too.
Bad news: No RPM reading.

David, your computer woes are unfortunate. I would argue to eVGA that they give you a 7800GT! What power supply you using?

Rob French Dec 02, 2005, 11:58am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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David,

Yep, the fan is better on the Premium model because there is no fan to deal with! The Premium is passively cooled, which is why I had considered just junking my Deluxe and buying a Premium and putting this business to rest.

As far the Asus fan/RMA issue, I have done both and both options ended the same way, with the need for another round of fan replacement. The new fan Asus uses is just not worth either in my opinion. If you RMA your board they don't send you a brand new board, they just send you a refurb. If your computer died when your chipset fan died you most likely have a dead mobo now. The chipset probably fried. 1200 RPMs is pretty low considering the fan normally spins at 8000 RPMs. You may be better off just sending them the whole board and asking for a refurb.

Jared,

Do you have the deluxe version of the A8N?

El Dec 02, 2005, 03:16pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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no, i just have the regular A8N-SLI.

Rob French Dec 02, 2005, 05:47pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Just got off the phone with Asus tech support to try and find out the airflow rating of the Asus chipset HSF and they put me on hold for 10 minutes then came back with "We don't know, we just know it is high enough to keep the chipset cool."

Great answer morons. So I asked if 3.5CFM would be sufficient given a copper heatsink. His reply, "Just buy the best one you can find and it should work."

I then asked if using a 3rd party chipset HSF would void the warranty and he said no.

david cole Dec 03, 2005, 11:38am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Jared and Rob, thanks for the comments.

Jared,
When I ship the eVGA 6800 Ultra back, my attached letter will make request for upgrade to the newer board - can't hurt to ask. I am using a Thermaltake 560 watt PSU.

Rob,
Passive cooling sounds better to me if sufficient. I guess I will ship board back and see what happens. I will request an upgrade to the Premium board but don't expect it to happen. I have the feeling they have a lot of the deluxe boards in the refurbish line. I just dread all the time required to completely strip the motherboard and then to put it back together.

I'd like to put all this in the past and just get on to actually using the computer as I intended. If any further problems occur in the near future, I'm switching brands of motherboards. The $$ count keeps rapidly rising beyond initial expectation.

A8N-SLI Deluxe, FX-55, Win XP Pro - was main, being rebuilt after electrical storm
Sabertooth x58, i7-950, Win 7 Pro, ENGTX460CU TOP, 12GB GSkill, 12GB SSD, 1GB + 2GB HDD @ 6GB/s - main computer
P5Q-E, e8500, Vista 64 - secondary computer
Two P5Q Pro,
Predator Dec 03, 2005, 12:45pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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The DFI LanParty SLI-DR is a much better buy than this board.

AMD Athlon 64 3000+ Venice
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ross cohen Dec 03, 2005, 05:29pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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hi i have an AsusTek motherboard and this program that i downloaded said that it is a "Lithium" type but what i want to know is if i can put an nvidia evga e-7800 gtx in it, im also getting a 550 watt power supply and i have 1024mb of ram so im good on everything but im not sure bout the motherboard so someone please reply...

also if someone can give me a better motherboard identifer that would be nice

thanks

Rob French Dec 03, 2005, 08:42pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Thanks for the tip on the Vantec cooling solution Jared. I installed it today and it seems to be working.

Pros:

1. My motherboard and CPU temps are now 4 deg. C cooler. It could have also been the dust cleaning I gave my case but either way I was happy to see they didn't go up. In fact, the Vantec HSF is only slightly warm to the touch under full load.

2. Quieter. The fan is much softer than the Asus HSF.

Cons:

1. Like you, I had to cut the ends off of the connector holes. I was able to cut enough off that I didn't have to touch the power connector.

2. The push pins that came with the Vantec HSF didn't want to go in. They were white and looked nothing like the connectors in your picture or on the Vantec website. So I had to use the push pins that the original Asus HSF used.

3. The holes on the Vantec HSF were just slightly too long and didn't line up with the mobo mounting holes. So the push pins are actually inserted at a slight angle. This didn't seem to be much of a problem though because they were completely pushed through to the other side. I did have to put considerable pressure on the push pins to get them to go through. It was difficult while trying to keep the HSF from moving and spreading the thermal grease around.

4. No chipset fan monitoring anymore.

A couple of questions for you Jared:

Did you use the supplied push pins for your mounting?

When I removed the stock fan there was a .25" wide square black pad around the chipset. The chipset sat in the middle of this pad. Did you remove this pad or leave it there? It looked like it was almost soaked in places with thermal grease. Although it looked pretty worn I left it there.

Tel The Nipper Dec 04, 2005, 08:12am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Hi,

I have a problem with my A8N - SLI DLX Mobo. I've had it several months now and it's being working great. Today I got the BSOD from win xp pro sp1 and the PC rebooted or tried to reboot. After this the mobo bleeped and displayed the processor fine but that's as far as it got, I can't even get into the bios. I've tried reseting the cmos, but the asus screen just comes up now and it says hit del to enter bios, but when I press the del key nothing happings. Is my mobo gone faulty? or can anyone suggest anything to get it working again.

Many thanks in advance.

Tel

AMD 64 3200+ Venice, Asus A8N SLI Deluxe Mobo and 1010-001 Bios, Retail HSF, Sapphire X800XL 256MB RAM, 2x512MB OCZ PC3200 Platnium matched pairs RAM, 120mb Maxtor PATA HDD, Pioneer 106 DVD-RW drive, Liteon 40x12x48 CDRW Drive, Chieftec Blue Dragon Case,
El Dec 04, 2005, 11:18am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Rob, I didn't use the provided push-pins. I just picked up some longer screws from Lowe's. I also used some springs I had as spare parts to compensate for stress caused by the wider hole pattern. That pad you're talking about, I think i discarded long ago and at which point I put on some circular "sticker-pads" on all for corners of the chip. It's been quite a battle with this stupid thing, but I think i finally won and I won't have to take apart my computer for a while! The way you did it sounds fine, although stressing those plastic pins too much would worry me a bit. Cheers,
Jared

Victor Nilsson Dec 04, 2005, 11:38am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Video probbs.

I have tryed everything I have check all my computer for hardware problems. I Changed video card, I reseted the CMOS. And nothing happend. The grafik card gets a normal temprature so i guess it gets power, but its hard to see because it dont have a fan. when i press power button all fans are spinning cdrom drive is booting harddrive is booting. But no startup screen. So i havent got any operation system on it. When i started it for the first time, it was a beeping sound but when I rested the CMOS it dissapeard. But still no picture. Please help me.

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Rob French Dec 04, 2005, 12:55pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Victor,

Are all of the power cables plugged into the video card and motherboard? Not sure if your specific video card has an extra power plug but my 6800GT does. I have forgotten to plug it in a couple times and the computer would not boot.

Also, you mentioned that your computer beeped a few times when you first tried to boot up. The number of beeps indicates the error the motherboard encountered. You can look them up in the manual.

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Rob French Dec 04, 2005, 04:30pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Victor,

Do you have your video card in the blue slot?

Do you have the EZ Selector card set to Single Video Card?

What color are the two LEDs on the mobo? There should be one next to the video card and one below the last PCI slot.

Do you have power running to the EZ Plug above the top video card?

Rgrds,
Rob

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Edited: Dec 05, 2005, 12:24am EST

 
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hi, i have a problem with my bios, i believe. i built my first PC and during the windows xp install (around 30%) it goes to a freakin blue screen. so i was forced to reset the computer. when it rebooted it said like bios checksum error and it asked me for some EXE file and the system was halted. so i put in the motherboard CD in and rebooted. it read the CD and it looked like it was flashing the bios. but then it was stopped because some lock jumpers were on. it wont let me pass this part. i am totally confused now. i not even sure why the windows installation even locked up in the first place. i think i have to send it back or what...
thank you

Tom Egan Dec 06, 2005, 08:58pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Hello,

Is there anyone here that might be willing to speak with me on the telephone or through email correspondence to help resolve graphics problems I've experienced since I built a system based on the A8NSLI and a BFG 6800GT video card in May of this year. I'm willing to pay for the help as I am desperate. I live in Glenwood Springs Colorado (near Aspen) and I can find no one locally versed enough in PC assembly to assist me. I've exhausted the techs at Asus, PC Power and Cooling, Enermax, BFG, Corsair, and AMD. I've replaced all components except for the Lian Li case and still no luck. I've documented everything and can share it on request. Thank You Tom Egan

tominaspen@hotmail.com

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Tom,

Can you post the history here? There are many here who can help.

You might also want to try the hardware forums at forums.anandtech.com.

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Wow... I can relate to the troubles you had. I had similar problems due to a failed chipset heatsink.

It sounds like it may have fried multiple system components at the very beginning. You are experiencing problems with nearly every component. Do you have a friend with a fairly recent system that you can test each component out with? I would avoid testing the power supply as that may be the root of your problems.

Suggestions:

1. Before you install XP I would try running memtest (by copying it to a floppy and booting to that floppy) on one stick of ram for at least 24 hours. If it passes without any errors you can be pretty confident that stick is not the problem. Then do the same thing with the other stick by itself. If that passes then try it again with both sticks installed. That should rule out the memory as the root of the problem.

2. Next I would try POSTing with your computer assembled outside of the case. I know you already tried that but you might want to try it again with your new parts. This could all be caused by a short in the mounting of the mobo. Try it with just the CPU, power supply, video card, RAM, keyboard and monitor. If you are able to POST without any problems jump into the BIOS and make sure nothing is overclocked and check the temp and RPM values of your system. Chipset fan should be around 5k or 8k RPM (depending on the fan you have). Power supply RPMs should be between 1 and 3k. None of your temps should be above 40degsC.

3. If everything at this point is working I would try and install everything in the case and try to POST again. Same components, just in the case.

4. If that works, try to install Windows. Then install a program called SpeedFan (http://www.almico.com/speedfan.php) and Prime95. Set up SpeedFan and run Prime95 in torture test mode for 24 hours. Periodically monitor the temps and fan RPMs in SpeedFan. Nothing should look abnormal. If the computer crashes boot back up and look at the log files that were created by SpeedFan. Also, plug in speakers to the on board audio. If there is an error encountered during boot up a voice should tell you what is going on.

Once you have done this report back and let us know how things went.

A couple of questions:

1. At any point have you attempted overclocking?
2. Did you replace the chipset fan on your own?
3. Are there any parts you have yet to replace?
4. Does your graphics card have an additional power plug and was it plugged in?



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