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Lee Butler Feb 22, 2005, 09:44am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Asus A8N-SLI FAQ
Thanks for the quick reply. I assume that these companies don't rate their PSU Wattage in the same way, since the OCZ model numbers compare quite well with the P&C model?

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Alkemyst Darkened Feb 22, 2005, 10:49am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Asus A8N-SLI FAQ
Power supplies are like horsepower ratings without at which rpms the power is at and whether or not it's Gross or Net.

The main things in power supplies is not the total watts really, but the amps on each rail as well as the amps on each rail combined. PC Power and Cooling really lists all the important specs. They give all the variances and noise readings as well. It's not that they are the only 'good' supplier out there (esp when they are actually a relabeller/tweaker I believe)....but there are so many other bad/misleading companies out there.


Sander Sassen Feb 22, 2005, 11:02am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Power supply ratings are often a marketing games, some manufacturers boast high figures but under conditions you'll never see in practice. For example an output of 600-watts at 20C, most PSUs run at 50C and up, hence making that claim pointless. If you're looking for a good analogy a PSU is much like the food an athlete consumes prior to attending the Olympics, he has a very balanced diet to exactly suit his needs. If you were to feed him McD he'd perform far, far worse. Your PC's PSU is similar, if you buy a cheap off the shelf parts, ie. McD, you end up getting what you paid for.

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Alkemyst Darkened Feb 22, 2005, 11:46am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Asus A8N-SLI FAQ
How many PCI you planning? That's where I got limited....however, just sail over to http://www.frontx.com and check out their front panel/customizable device. I got the chassis and two usbs for $22.40 shipped overnight from Malaysia apparently....cheap.

You can order just the usb's as well and customize a drive blank for about $10 cheaper....they have the templates for cutting also. Great company.

Mark Donoghue Feb 22, 2005, 12:01pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Well I am finally done with this board. I have decided to dump it and go back into Intel. I love computers and I work with them all day but when I build a new computer and want to be near cutting edge I do not expect this many problems. Too bad AMD can't do the chipsets themselves instead of leaving it all upto companies like nvidia and the others who just rush to be first to market with a new technology and bad and shotty drivers at best. If AMD took more of an active role in chipset development I don't think you would see as many people having problems working with a new board like this one.

Jim Chaney Feb 22, 2005, 12:09pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Asus A8N-SLI FAQ
I think I'm a bit late to arrive but thought I'd ask a quick question. It's not about power supplies though :)

Basically I have had the mobo for about a fortnight, and have been running it happily with all the BIOS settings and software versions described except one... if i install the 71.81 drivers I get a BSOD mentioning http.sys. Generally appears after I try to logon, and before I actually see the desktop. If I revert to 66.93 or 67.xx it's all fine.

This wouldnt worry me as I can wait for nVidia to release it properly, except that my second 6600GT arrived Monday and although XP finds it and seems to install it ok I cant get it to activate SLI mode. Its keeps saying I have to remove non SLI compliant devices first (I'll check the exact wording and edit the post when I get home).

I dont have any other devices, and have removed the nVidia drivers in Safe mode and reinstalled to the same effect. I have tried with Auto and SLI selected in the BIOS, no change. No other hardware other than the two Sparkle 6600GTs (both on same BIOS - I extracted the bios with nvflash and did a binary compare, they are identical) and a RAID0 pair of Maxtor DiamondMax 10s.

Like I said, no problem with instability even with overnight sessions of HL2 and WoW, but it wont activate the second card. It definately spotted it, just wont turn on SLI. The PSU is a 360W (shock! seems OK though) by Cheiftek (the makers of the case).

Sorry such long post, anyone got ideas (if I have to reinstall *again* I'll cry).

Thanks, Jim

Randy Rahmeyer Feb 22, 2005, 12:26pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Edited: Feb 22, 2005, 12:27pm EST

 
>> Re: Asus A8N-SLI FAQ
Jim,

Welcome to the club! If you happen to find out what the problem is please post your results. I am plagued with the same problem but I am using ASUS EN6600GTs.

Jim Chaney Feb 22, 2005, 12:44pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Edited: Feb 22, 2005, 12:45pm EST

 
>> Re: Asus A8N-SLI FAQ
Heh, just spent the last 30 minutes at work (gotta love it when the boss is off for the day) reading the first half (!) of this thread again: From previous post:

3. BSOD - IRQ NOT LESS OR EQUAL
This was a frustrating one. AMD's and SP2 and NVidia drivers don't play well together. Change /noexecute=optin to /execute=optin in your boot settings.

Looked up the meaning of this at MSDN:

http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-...e2.xml.asp
or just http://tinyurl.com/3ww7v

There is no such thing as /execute=optin, the opposite of /noexecute=optin is /noexecute=optout . Could use /noexecute=alwaysoff but frankly I dont know what PAE does from the description. Guess I'll try both.

Maybe when I can use 71.81 I can use both cards in SLI... who knows. Will keep y'all posted.

Jim

igi d Feb 22, 2005, 02:53pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Asus A8N-SLI FAQ
hey, my problems with BSOD are gone after I disabled and uninstalled the Cool&Quiet.

Just my twocents

Terry I Feb 22, 2005, 03:21pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Asus A8N-SLI FAQ
Great Faq!

I followed it completely and I'm running for 2 days now without ANY problems. Of course the only game I've played so far is Unreal 2k4 but it was awesome playing considering I just came from a PNY GeForce 5600 with Pentium 2.66 to this:

Amd 64 3500+ Winchester
Asus sli deluxe
Corsair XMS Pro 3200LL 1 GB
Two (2) XFX 6600GT's
Two (2) Maxtor 80gb HD's (Raid 0 - 160gb)
Plextor 716SA SATA DVD RW
Ultra ULT31650 X-Finity 500W PSU
New OEM of Windows XP Pro w/SP2

The ONLY thing that bugs me is the "Safely Remove Hardware" Icon is constantly in the tray. I've tried installing windows twice. Once with NVidia IDE driver and Finally without. But that dang thing is still there.

Adam Miles Feb 22, 2005, 03:24pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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That Safely Remove Hardware icon is probably supposed to be there because you have a SATA Optical Drive. SATA optical/hard drives are hotpluggable so you can just disconnect and reconnect them without turning your machine off. You can set the icon to always hide if you right click on the taskbar, do properties, then Customize.

Terry I Feb 22, 2005, 03:52pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Thx Adam, however, I added the SATA Optical after I installed Windows. I had to since I needed an IDE Optical drive to boot with. The icon was there prior to the SATA optical. It is there for the Raid drives (maxtor). I believe that they are somehow considered hot-swap drives as well. But it is a minor issue for me considering that SO FAR I haven't experienced any other problems. Thx!! :)

Rory Witham Feb 22, 2005, 03:54pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Alkemyst Darkened Feb 22, 2005, 03:56pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Asus A8N-SLI FAQ
Mark if near cutting edge is where you want to be the A8N-SLI was not the board, nor the nForce4 chipset...these are bleeding edge, new to market.

Most problems are really stemming from overclocks, and SLI and combinations of wrong memory/power supplies etc.

Cutting edge intel I'd say is the ASUS P5AD2-E 925XE chipset....I deploy machines at work....building them is unsuitable.

Mike Yi Feb 22, 2005, 04:16pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Edited: Feb 22, 2005, 04:17pm EST

 
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Problem: Instability in 3d applications. BSOD giving me the following message:
Display device driver got stuck in an infinite loop. Usually this indicates a problem with the device itself or with the device driver programming hardware incorrectly.
I've gotten this in SLI and single card operation. I also got a BSOD that included:
PAGE_FAULT_IN_NONPAGED_AREA. It also mentioned nv4_disp.dll, which is the same .dll mentioned in the first BSOD I described.

Specs:
Antec TruePower550 EPS12v (modded per FAQ)
A8N-SLI Deluxe (1003 and 1004 BIOS tried)
Zalman passive chipset cooler
Athlon 64 3500+
Zalman 7000 cooler
Corsair Twinx1024-3200C2
(2) BFG 6800 GTs
No sound
(2) Seagate 160Gb SATA drives
(1) WD 40Gb Ultra IDE drive
LG GSA-4163B Multi DVD/CD writer (IDE)
Sony? DVD-ROM (can't remember make) (IDE)

I followed the FAQ to the letter, except for specifying my memory timings (T1, 2.5, 3, 3, 6, 2.75v). I have previously tried a pair of MSI 6800s (non GT or Ultra), and one BFG 6600 GT. I have constantly encountered application lockups, CTDs, and reboots with all of them while in graphically intense 3d applications - mainly 3dMark03, 3dMark05. Of course, this was all before using the FAQ and these were all in WinXP SP1. When I followed the FAQ and used SP2, I got the BSODs listed above in addition to the other problems.

I'm at my wit's end. I've been trying to get this machine running stable for more than 5 weeks now. For the first time today I thought, "Maybe I should just suffer the (considerable) restocking fees and return it all to go back to my 9800 Pro, Epox 8KHA+, and AthlonXP 2600+." After seeing what this combo is capable of though, it would be hell to go back.

Sander Sassen Feb 22, 2005, 04:22pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Mike,

Two things that stand out, the Zalman passive chipset cooler, I tried that as well and it doesn't work in a case, the chipset just gets too hot causing for memory errors which lead to BSODs. Your memory is another incertain factor, many have had issues with Corsair memory and this motherboard, all else seems to be fine, so you could be in for a quick fix. I'd start with putting the original chipset heatsink back on, whith some quality thermal paste and borrow, steal or buy some decent DDR400 memory.

Sander Sassen
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Mike Yi Feb 22, 2005, 04:29pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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I thought memory too. However, I've run over 16 hours of memtest (2 sessions of 8+ hours), and over 2 hours of the MS Memory Diagnostic. No problems. Chipset and CPU are running really cool even under load. I've had 3dMark CTD on me while I had the ASUSProbe app open in the background. It was showing a chipset temp of less than 40 degrees C, and a CPU temp of around 45 degrees C. I supposed it wouldn't hurt anything (except my ears) to put the stock fan back in though.

Alkemyst Darkened Feb 22, 2005, 04:46pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Sander I am using the Zalman ZM-NB47J and I am not getting errors at my stable 2562Mhz/232 memory....now it may have limited my overclocking possibily as my criteria was 24 hours stable in prime and memtest.

I am thinking of bringing a duct to it from a quiet 80mm though.

Rob Ciraco Feb 22, 2005, 04:49pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Edited: Feb 22, 2005, 04:52pm EST

 
>> Re: Asus A8N-SLI FAQ
Anyone running Memory other than Corsair 3200? any other sugestions on more compadible and lets say better preformer with the A8N SLI.....let me know ( Crucial,OCZ,Mushkin,Kingston?)

Sander Sassen Feb 22, 2005, 04:50pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Asus A8N-SLI FAQ
Mike,

Good, you did your homework, those were my next suggestions. But humor me and install Prime95 and let that run for about 2 hours with the case panels on and all parts running at stock clockspeed. Don't use the system during that time, as the idea is to see whether the memory, or the chipset is the culprit here. If it keeps on running we can pretty much rule memory out. Let me know what happens and we'll go from there.

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