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Whizzz AKA: SLI Scientist@Work Feb 27, 2005, 12:26pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Edited: Feb 27, 2005, 01:04pm EST

 
>> Re: Asus A8N-SLI FAQ
Bill,

2xwinfast px6600gt

Is the rated default GPU Core 550 MHz and the Memory Core 560 MHz on this card?

My post is mainly for 6800 GT's and 6800 Ultra's but your numbers still seem to be low.

Tell me how much you get on one card in 3DMARK 05. Remove SLI!

{quote}When I goto sli in my bios and goto the auto/enable/disable my system hangs[/quote]
Auto/Normal/SLI are the settings in the BIOS. Just set to AUTO for now, if the system hangs go to normal and perform the test..

was wondering is there a surefire way to tell if my system is running in sli

In the same SLI settings window you can enable show GPU Load Balancing, then fire-up a 3D Game and look for the horizontal green line on your screen. This is just one way of finding out.

Mike

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Fred Urso Feb 27, 2005, 01:10pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Asus A8N-SLI FAQ
Back on pg 35 I mentioned problems with the PCI bus knocking down my Matrox 40GB to PIO mode. After an XP reinstall an applying of the Nforce drivers the the PATA now reads the drive correctly at ATA 133. But the question I have out to everyone is with ntune it reports back the following warning at startup.

"PCI clock in currently set to track the HT bus. If you adjust the clock on the HT bus, the PCI bus clock will change as well".

I have the A8N-SLI (standard)...Were would I make this change becasue the BIOS does not have a frequency setting other than than HT frequency (auto, 1x-5x) which is currently set too auto. Any suggestions as to how this can be resolved...Thanks..

ASUS A8NSLI (standard)
Athlon 64 3000+
OCZ Dual Channel 1GB
Maxtor SATA 160GB
Maxtor IDE 40GB
MSI Radeon 600XT
RadiMax 420W PSU


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Edited: Feb 27, 2005, 05:31pm EST

 
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Edited: Feb 27, 2005, 04:33pm EST

 
>> Re: Asus A8N-SLI FAQ
Fred Urso

"PCI clock in currently set to track the HT bus. If you adjust the clock on the HT bus, the PCI bus clock will change as well".

I have the A8N-SLI (standard)...Were would I make this change becasue the BIOS does not have a frequency setting other than than HT frequency (auto, 1x-5x) which is currently set too auto. Any suggestions as to how this can be resolved...Thanks..


http://www.cpuid.com/clockgen.php
Download this program and click get values. Set the FSB to 201 MHz and the PCI to 33.33 MHz, and apply settings. Then go to Ntune and see if the HT error clears.
Try to set your HT to 5X, it may clear the HT message as well.

In the DLX, under Jumperfree Settings the Overclock needs to be set to Manual and the FSB frequency needs to be set at 201MHZ with the PCI Synchronization Mode to 33.33 MHz to clear the message.

I tried to locate some pics of your BIOS on the net. I do know how to resolve this, but I need to see the BIOS. Could you, or someone else be so kind as to provide me with a link to a place that has pics of your BIOS?

Mike :)

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Thanks for the tips, Mike. I checked/performed your suggestions and still have the issue.

It's pretty weird. Sometimes the 2nd display is picked up as a TV in nView so I have to select "Analog 1, TV 2" in DualView to see it. Even then, it will only work for a few moments and then will drop the connection. When this happens, the 2nd display shows up in the Display Properties -> Settings menu but when I enable it, the display still doesn't initialize. I think I found a workaround by leaving nView in Single Monitor and loading UltraMon. It's not very elegant as I sometimes have to monkey around with various settings after a reboot but at least it gives me my 2nd display. I didn't have this problem at all with my old Radeon9700 Pro. :/

This may be the onus for me to buy a Dell Ultrasharp 19" FP display. :D

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Edited: Feb 27, 2005, 02:44pm EST

 
>> Re: Asus A8N-SLI FAQ
Terry,

There are many possible variations in your settings, I provided 1.

Just keep trying you'll get it.

PS: What ever you try, just make sure your monitor is in extended mode. I have two monitors on card one and a big screen on the second card, I do know how to get this working!

Mike :)

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Edited: Feb 27, 2005, 05:03pm EST

 
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Giovanni Miceli

That is Defcon 1 - Do I understand
Thank you so much - Thank you so much for nothing.

I owe you an apology. I took this as being a sarcastic remark. After reading your return post over and over though, I realized more and more that it wasn't.

Defcon 1 - an acknowlegement of my answers to you
Thank you so much - genuine

Sorry Giovanni Miceli
Sincerely,
Mike Thellend

Whizzz AKA: SLI Scientist@Work Feb 27, 2005, 06:27pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Asus A8N-SLI FAQ
Sander,

Any new hardware tests for SLI come accross your bench lately, or planned for the future?
Would there be a possibility of you posting a link from your site to full BIOS pics of the A8N-SLI and DLX motherboards to help people navigate their BIOS's.

Mike :)

Shawn Duff Feb 27, 2005, 06:54pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Asus A8N-SLI FAQ
I have been reading through this thread on the A8N-SLI and I am now a bit confused. In the initial post outlining the setup of the mobo, you mention updating the BIOS to the latest version. However, you mention only the BIOS update for the A8N-SLI Deluxe which has more BIOS updates than the A8N-SLI (the name of this thread). Is it just me or are you not confusing the two mobos?

The only update to the BIOS on the A8N-SLI from the ASUS site that I have seen is a beta BIOS update. Otherwise it is still listing 1001 as the only available version. The beta BIOS is 1002.003. The latest BIOS for the A8N-SLI Deluxe is the 1004 as you mentioned in the setup.

Whizzz AKA: SLI Scientist@Work Feb 27, 2005, 07:19pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Edited: Feb 27, 2005, 07:40pm EST

 
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Yeah Sander what's up with that!

You should have called this section of the forum;

A8N-SLI Family FAQ , like Family pack when it comes to food. lol

PS: Then you can put a Kentucky Fried Chicken advert in this section, they do sell Family FAQ's I mean Pack's. You could place a food ad here as we do get hungry using all our brain power to solve the mysteries of SLI. hehe

Oh, oh I got another joke that involves Colonel Sander(s), just kidding!!! lol

Did I break the ice of the last posts yet! If not I will break the ice on my new cryo unit.

Mike :)

Fred Urso Feb 27, 2005, 07:34pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Asus A8N-SLI FAQ
Mike:
Download this program and click get values. Set the FSB to 201 MHz and the PCI to 33.33 MHz, and apply settings. Then go to Ntune and see if the HT error clears.
Try to set your HT to 5X, it may clear the HT message as well.

In the DLX, under Jumperfree Settings the Overclock needs to be set to Manual and the FSB frequency needs to be set at 201MHZ with the PCI Synchronization Mode to 33.33 MHz to clear the message.

Thanks for the response Mike....This BIOS does not allow you to set the PCI Syncronization Mode as it does on the Deluxe board. Also when using CLOCKGEN I cannot get to the value of 33.33 ...33.30 or 33.43 are the closest values. I guess what I am really trying too find is a way to disable this function as to where the HT bus will not control the PCI Bus speeds when it is changed. Why would this be turned on to begin with is beyond me....Thanks...Comments...greatley appreciated.....

Simon Lu Feb 27, 2005, 07:46pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Asus A8N-SLI FAQ
i have the non deluxe mob, using 1004 BIOS, it works fine, maybe you can flash it to 1004 too!

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Edited: Feb 27, 2005, 10:21pm EST

 
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I guess what I am really trying too find is a way to disable this function as to where the HT bus will not control the PCI Bus speeds when it is changed. Why would this be turned on to begin with is beyond me


Hi!

This is exactly what I'm trying to do for you. When you see the message it means that the PCI is set to track the HT bus.

Oops! I just edited this post I misinformed on an issue.
Yes it is tracking when you see the message. DOH! I must of been on another planet there! lol

Mike :)

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Edited: Feb 27, 2005, 08:50pm EST

 
>> Re: Asus A8N-SLI FAQ
Simon Lu

I have recommended this in previous posts as I heard it worked, but the persons I recommended it to never got back.

Do you have control of Jumperfree Settings, Overclock Frequencies (Manual to be exact) and PCI Synchronization Mode?

Simon says?
Maybe he's in the BIOS checking it out!
The suspense is killing us here Simon, we need the answer to the million dollar question!
Going once
Going twice
Gone to the next person with a A8N-SLI Deluxe BIOS 1004 on the A8N-SLI.

Sorry Fred Urso, i'm trying to avoid you having to install a BIOS that may do nothing for you.

Simon hello friend!

Mike :)

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>> Re: Asus A8N-SLI FAQ
Mike:

Do you have control of Jumperfree Settings, Overclock Frequencies (Manual to be exact) and PCI Synchronization Mode?
< i do have full control over the Jumperfree Settings, and OC settings and PCI synchronization Mode>

I had 1001 for 2 weeks and just got sick of it, the system was very unstable, and i tried to use a floppy to flash the bios but it didnt work, gave me a message that this is not the right board, then i did <alt> F2 to flash it, and it worked. the only problem is that i cant go back to the non-deluxe version bios anymore...??
dont understand why
also, to control the PCI synchronization mode, the CPU frequency needs to be higher then 200Mhz..
its a little hot, after i set PCI to 33.3, but the system is still stable.

AMD 3000+
A8N non deluxe
ASUS 6600GT TOP( only one for now)
WD 740
Tagan 480
by the way Mike, great system, i went to check it out on your photo album...

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Edited: Feb 27, 2005, 09:03pm EST

 
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the CPU frequency needs to be higher then 200Mhz..
its a little hot, after i set PCI to 33.3, but the system is still stable.

I know about the CPU getting hot on 33.33 MHz. I posted this before as well, I'm glad I met you you just confirmed a great many things for me.
I just noticed the compliment about my unit, thanks Simon, much appreciated.

Mike :)

Fred Urso

There's your ticket!
Use Asus Update or the method described by Simon, find the .rom file for the 1004 on your computer after you download it and update.

Then, In the DLX, under Jumperfree Settings the Overclock needs to be set to Manual and the FSB frequency needs to be set at 201MHZ with the PCI Synchronization Mode to 33.33 MHz to clear the message.

PS: If you keep your clock frequencies down, your CPU will be at an acceptable temp.

Mike :)



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Edited: Feb 27, 2005, 09:14pm EST

 
>> Re: Asus A8N-SLI FAQ
it was 27C before i set the PCI to 33.3, now its 32C...
few more questions, Mike.
did what you suggested on page 16 to tune my 6600GT, it gave me 570/1200,
but 3D Mark 05 gave me green spots and scored 42XX, 3D Mark 03 gave me 92XX
put it back to stock 550/1100, 05 gave me 40xx, and 03 gave me 89xx.
i cant find another 6600GT TOP edition...!!! so, i am thinking if i should go to 6800 GT/ Ultra to get the SLI going. but the CPU might be a bottleneck.
second, i have recieved few IRQL_DRIVER blue screens, so i went back and uninstall all the chipset drivers and display drivers, dont know if it is going to come up again. now, im on 71.24 and 6.39.
third, when i transfer files from DVD to HD, it seems very slow, is there anyway that i can tune my WD 740 and the DVD rom so the file transfer rate is faster??!!
thanks Mike.

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Edited: Feb 27, 2005, 09:39pm EST

 
>> Re: Asus A8N-SLI FAQ
few more questions, Mike.
did what you suggested on page 16 to tune my 6600GT, it gave me 570/1200,
but 3D Mark 05 gave me green spots and scored 42XX, 3D Mark 03 gave me 92XX
put it back to stock 550/1100, 05 gave me 40xx, and 03 gave me 89xx.
i cant find another 6600GT TOP edition...!!! so, i am thinking if i should go to 6800 GT/ Ultra to get the SLI going. but the CPU might be a bottleneck.
second, i have recieved few IRQL_DRIVER blue screens, so i went back and uninstall all the chipset drivers and display drivers, dont know if it is going to come up again. now, im on 71.24 and 6.39.
third, when i transfer files from DVD to HD, it seems very slow, is there anyway that i can tune my WD 740 and the DVD rom so the file transfer rate is faster??!!


When ntune optimizes it will be border line between errors and no errors, the maximum your card should go according to your current systems temps, cpu etc... You need to reduce GPU Core and Memory Core by increments I mentioned on page 16. You will be able to get 560 and 1.15 from what I see, without video corruption. Water cooling will help, my GPU stays at 41C and hardly ever moves on the EXOS. It gave me 30 + MHz on my GPU and .1 on my Memory Core.

As far as card selection and CPU bottlenecking, you know your system best. I would research results with people who have similar CPU's and Card's. But if I was to choose between GT and Ultra I would go PVT45FUD.

IRQ problem. There are a couple of very good suggestions in the forum regarding this issue. I will try and find them. All IRQ errors are not generated by the same problems. When does this happen the most?

DVD and HD transfer speed. I do have a couple of suggestions, I need to go back and check your specs first. I think I will need more info from you though.

Mike :)

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"As far as card selection and CPU bottlenecking, you know your system best. I would research results with people who have similar CPU's and Card's. But if I was to choose between GT and Ultra I would go PVT45FUD."

what about BFG? i only trust Newegg for online shopping, and PVT45FUD is out of stock.

"IRQ problem! there are a couple of very good suggestions in the forum regarding this issue. I will try and find them. All IRQ errors are not generated by the same problems. When does this happen the most?"
when i went on a website, dont understand it, but now i go, it doesnt have a problem.

"I do have a couple of suggestions, I need to go back and check your specs first. I think I will need more info from you though."
i have the WD 740GD on SATA 1, and SONY 720A DVD-RW on IDE master, one more SONY 16X DVD on IDE slave. XP SP2, and i set everything to "upto BIOS ...." average transfering speed from DVD ROM to HD is around 3 mins for 3 G of files....thinking about adding two Hitachi 7k250 for RAID, will it be more effective to add one more WD 740?
what ohter info do you need mike?
thanks!
Simon


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