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Glenn Biggleston Mar 01, 2005, 12:51am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Asus A8N-SLI FAQ
hi guys
great troubleshooting forum

i'm new at this posting stuff so bear with me
changed chipset hsf to zalman 47j heatsink and proceeded to lose my secondary ide channel
tried everything to get it working..cable,drives,bios flash,clear cmos the works
seen this same prob on 1 other forum with no resolve
ended up rma'ing board...new 1 shipped today..would still like to put zalman on new board but
worried about trashing another board..installed with as5..only suggestion so far is maybe some
as5 sqeezed out onto nf4 n/b and shorted out a bridge but when i put fan back on to rma didnt
notice any compound spread past nf4 chip..was running very stable..no oc...just no sec ide ch
any ideas or suggestions greatly appreciated
thanks
Glenn
a8n-sli deluxe
bios 1002,1003 and 1004 finals
3500(.90)
1G geil pc3500(2x512 @ 2-3-3-6)
ati x850xt (5.2 driver)
200 seagate sata
300 maxtor dm10 ata133 pri master
both on nvidia raid 0 array
nec 3500 dvdrw sec master
lg dvdrom sec slave
sony floppy
x-connect 500w 24pin cable

glennbig

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Whizzz AKA: SLI Scientist@Work Mar 01, 2005, 01:09am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Edited: Mar 01, 2005, 04:33am EST

 
>> Re: Asus A8N-SLI FAQ
Clay Tay

ASUS's recommendation is 128KB for performance disk usage. But in the NVIDIA's nforce manual, it seems to suggest 64KB, and then came along Mike, he said 4KB and to trust him on this because he has his set to that, and it's faster than scuzzy. Heck, it even shows up as SCSI in the BIOS!

Just a suggestion!

I use PowerQuest Partition Magic to change my cluster size. I set it to 4K as there is less waste, and of it will change your speed.. On my RAID0 I get 270 MB/s transfer rates.

The New Technology File System (NTFS) is accessible by Windows NT/2000/XP. NTFS is not recommended for use on disks less than 400 MB because it uses a great deal of space for system structures.
The central system structure of the NTFS file system is the master file table (MFT). NTFS keeps multiple copies of the critical portion of the MFT to protect against corruption and data loss.
Like FAT and FAT32, NTFS uses clusters to store data files; however, the size of the clusters is not dependent on the size of the disk or partition.

+++++A cluster size as small as 512 bytes can be specified, regardless of whether a partition is 500 MB or 5 GB. Using small clusters not only reduces the amount of wasted disk space, but also reduces file fragmentation, a condition where files are broken up over many noncontiguous clusters, resulting in slower file access. Because of its ability to use small clusters, NTFS provides good performance on large drives.+++++

NCQ - Native Command Queuing is a new technology like SLI. I would wait a little while before stepping into it, I mean look at us here in this forum, we saw a great thing and now were all beta testers.
Do you want to be a beta tester for this drive? I trust the Raptor as it's been around for awhile and has proven to be a fast and reliable drive. Want more space? Get more Raptors. Just the thought of going back to a 7200.7 RPM drive gives me the willies.

I use VOPTXP to defrag, clean, test speed etc... It's one of the best programs I ever used.

Mike :)

Athanasios Karageorgiou Mar 01, 2005, 04:07am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Good morning.
In the Sandra bench on the CPU information it says "VCORE less than rated minimum.Check VCORE settings" i have an 3500+ is it something to worry about?

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No, it's probably reporting wrong like it did on my FX 55. Just check your system utilities and see if the voltage corresponds to your CPU's input.

Mike :)

Sander Sassen Mar 01, 2005, 04:26am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Kevin, Mike,

I'm up for a swap, no problem. But I've just checked Kevin's screenshot and the details of his DIMMs and they're identical to mine. I have four DIMMs in total, so I can swap two out, no problem. Want to do this the fast way ie. FedEx or UPS? I am in Europe remember.

Sander Sassen
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Whizzz AKA: SLI Scientist@Work Mar 01, 2005, 04:36am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Edited: Mar 01, 2005, 04:46am EST

 
>> Re: Asus A8N-SLI FAQ
Sander,

and they're identical to mine

Less the dual showing up right?
His says single.

Mike :)

PS: He will be so pleased to hear this. lol
Want to do this the fast way ie. FedEx or UPS? I am in Europe remember.
Kevin said he would pay the shipping. It wont be that much for two little sticks of RAM.

alli ronald Mar 01, 2005, 05:13am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Edited: Mar 01, 2005, 05:48am EST

 
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Hi there i hope you folks can help!

Ive recently built my new system, asus a8n-sli delux, 3.5 64bit winchester, 2x Hitachi 160gb hdd in raid 0 config, 1gb Corsair Value select ddr400 - this is where my problems begun!

1) installed XP sp2 and all seems fine until you run a DVD when i get the error " Cannot create file, there may not be enough disk space" and then closes.
2) CDs come up with "CATASTROPHIC FAILURE" :[
even though i can explore the disk and copy files to the desktop!
3) My HDD Light is Permanently ON (normal for a raid setup?)
4) there appears to be a weird "whining" noise from somewhere - like a cat being strangled!


My 2 Hitachi Deskstar 160 HDDs are set up in RAID 0 array, Striping on the NV RAID controller.

I have disabled the SiliconImage controller as indicated in the manual (if Nv is enabled)


Any ideas?

thanx 4 your time

Remi Holm Mar 01, 2005, 07:10am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Asus A8N-SLI FAQ
Mike.

I did your SLI setup guid again, and you where right.
3DMark05 was low.

The score is much better now. 6897.
Have more tweaking to do, but how much do you think that it is possible
to raise a 3DMark05 score with two GeForce 6600 GT?

Have you any idea about my post on page 33?

Thanks for your answers!

Remi Holm

Alkemyst Darkened Mar 01, 2005, 08:15am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Where did you see another place someone lost the sec. EIDE due to installing a Zalman ZM-NB47J? Whereever it was more than likely it's something unrelated to the Zalman itself and more related to knocking something else while installing it.

I just don't see it possible.

Whizzz AKA: SLI Scientist@Work Mar 01, 2005, 09:09am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Edited: Mar 01, 2005, 10:56am EST

 
>> Re: Asus A8N-SLI FAQ
Remi,

With your mark right now you rank #2 ORB (if your using the 66.93 driver) on 3DMARK 05 for Geforce 6600 GT's. The top dog has 7671.

Mike :)

PS: I don't see any performance drops here! Do you? :)

Can you give me the Default GPU and Memory Core MHz for your card? I can make you #1 on ORB

Simon Lu Mar 01, 2005, 09:28am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Mike:
I set my ram timing as 2.5-3-3-6 and run Prime 95 overnight, no errors!! whats the diffference compare to 2-2-2-5 or there is none?

I dont know if i can drop 1g on XFX 6800 Ultra, and my ASUS 6600GT is out of stock too...i want to see how you can tune Remi's 6600GT and whats his score going to be in 3DMark05!!

Again, Thank you for fixing my ram settings!
Lu

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Edited: Mar 01, 2005, 10:35am EST

 
>> Re: Asus A8N-SLI FAQ
Simon my friend,

We're not finished!

The settings I gave you were extreme, try;
2.5-2-2-6 2T
2.5-2-2-5 2T
2.5-2-2-5 1T
2-2-2-5 2T

Use Super PI and do the 32 MB test. Run on all four settings I just gave you at the same CPU speed you're at now. The test can take up to 1hr.

Let me know what settings you're getting your errors on, start at the top of the list. In other words, let me know the minute you get one error and at what setting it happened.

I dont know if i can drop 1g on XFX 6800 Ultra, and my ASUS 6600GT is out of stock too...i want to see how you can tune Remi's 6600GT and whats his score going to be in 3DMark05!!


I know the card is expensive but well worth it!
Remi needs to get back to me with his GPU and Memory Core MHz numbers, default for the card and current, and if he's using 66.93 Drivers. I asked him before, but I guess maybe he didn't see my post.
I will tell him how to further tweak his cards and give him a suggestion if he want's to be #1 ORB
Remi has already used my guide but was unsuccessful on the first attempt. I recommended that he try again and he did really well, very well I might add!

PS: My G.Skill Ram will be here any day now. I will be increasing my own 3DMARK 05 score soon and I should be in the 11,000 range, so stay tuned. lol Get it, tuned. hehe

Mike :)

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Edited: Mar 01, 2005, 10:55am EST

 
>> Re: Asus A8N-SLI FAQ
Remi Holm

About page 33;

I have a few things we can try, I need to know when it happens the most. Turn your networking back on, I know turning it off is not a fix, I mentioned this in this forum before.
It is important that you get the message to come up more than once, 4-5 times and exactly how, to allow me to give you proper guidance, we will take it from there.

Remi needs to get back to me with his GPU and Memory Core MHz numbers, default for the card and current, and if he's using 66.93 Drivers. I asked him before, but I guess maybe he didn't see my post.
I will tell him how to further tweak his cards and give him a suggestion if he want's to be #1 ORB
Remi has already used my guide but was unsuccessful on the first attempt. I recommended that he try again and he did really well, very well I might add!

Mike :)

Jamie Morrison Mar 01, 2005, 10:56am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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My major issue is finding a proper case. I have used three cases for this motherboard model and I cannot fit any of my cards into the motherboard after placing it into a case. There is only one way to place this motherboard into any of these ATX cases. I have bought two cases because of this problem and both cases will not align the card slots with their slot openings properly after screwing the motherboard in.

What do I do? Manually take a drill and drill into the case just to fit the motherboard?

Please help before I take this 200 dollar motherboard and meet it with a baseball bat.

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>> Re: Asus A8N-SLI FAQ
Jamie,

Must have been built on a friday, or someone got drunk on the job. lol

I've never heard of this, you are the first. I've put my board in three cases as well, two upright towers and one flat. I know that you need to be a little persistant when installing the set screw by holding the card in place.
I'm sorry to hear you're having this problem.

Can you specify which cases you bought? Manufacturer etc...

Mike :)

Russ Spry Mar 01, 2005, 11:11am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Edited: Mar 01, 2005, 11:12am EST

 
>> Re: Asus A8N-SLI FAQ
Jamie

The Tsunami Case from Thermaltaki is a good choice I think. Lots of room, great cooling and good looking. They come with or without power supply. I installed my own in my system.

Jamie Morrison Mar 01, 2005, 11:11am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Its sad really, all my cards will not completely go into the slots. When I look at the slot on the motherboard and the slot of the PC I am finding that the Slots on the motherboard do not even aling with the hole. When I put the card in case hole first it completely misses the slot every time.

Even contemplated on removing all the cards axcess metal outer slots just to fit them into the cases. Using an old PCI card for practice this did not work well either.
Over looking pics from ASUS the motherboard's screw holes are the same so I know the motherboard was made right so the issue is either me or the cases I bought

I am debating on taking a case I destroyed from my first attempt to get the motherboard to work apart and use its back lining and just run the motherboard on a sheet of metal out in the open. Yea the cards will not be screwed down, but I am getting desperate here.


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When I look at the slot on the motherboard and the slot of the PC I am finding that the Slots on the motherboard do not even aling with the hole


There not supposed to! The PCI slots are offset.

PS: There is no need to force the cards in. If you do, you're doing it the wrong way.

Mike

Jamie Morrison Mar 01, 2005, 11:16am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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I have built older Pc's with cheaper Pc's in the past. But this one is a stumper. Perhaps then I should use a little elbo grease and try to force the cards in after mounting the motherboard?

Remi Holm Mar 01, 2005, 11:25am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Hi Mike!

Sorry I am beeing late. My dog was almost killing me for a long walk.
He have not got to many of those latly.

About the drivers I must disappoint you. I am using 71.81
Would you recommend changeing to 66.93?
GPU are running at 555 MHZ and memory at 1.12.

It is actual a little low. The reason for this is that the two cards tested so different.
card # 1 : 165 1.2
card # 2 : 190 1.8

Thanks for your answer.
Remi Holm


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