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alli ronald Mar 01, 2005, 03:40pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Edited: Mar 01, 2005, 03:41pm EST

 
>> Re: Asus A8N-SLI FAQ
Mike,

its running on NTFS

the errors i get are...with a CD "CATASTROPHIC FAILURE"
and with a DVD "Cannot create file, there may not be enough disk space" (disks are 300Gb free!)

Ive tried Master / Slave, primary and secondary IDE channels, numerous IDE cables....

Ive sorted the HDD light, and the noise it was making - thx for that one

its been running like this for bout 3 days approx



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Sander Sassen Mar 01, 2005, 03:49pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Asus A8N-SLI FAQ
Mike,

> I want to be a BETA tester for ASUS, do you have any suggestions and or connections?

I guess you already are, like me, we just don't get paid for doing their tech support or research.

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>> Re: Asus A8N-SLI FAQ
Kevin,

I said it a few pages back, but I really think it is the motherboard, just RMA it and see if that fixes anything, I doubt the processor is at fault though, I've rarely seen defective processors, other than from abuse by overclocking, overvolting and other cases of user 'error'.

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Glenn Biggleston Mar 01, 2005, 03:57pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Asus A8N-SLI FAQ
Alkemyst

Re: Asus A8N-SLI FAQ
Where did you see another place someone lost the sec. EIDE due to
installing a Zalman ZM-NB47J? Whereever it was more than likely it's
something unrelated to the Zalman itself and more related to knocking something else while installing it.
I just don't see it possible

Alkemyst these are the posts i found from anandteck forum

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Dream Operator anandtech official an8-sli thread pg 82

After installing the zalman northbridge heatsink, I no longer have my
sec IDE. My usb cd-rom shows up, but not my dvd-rom and dvd burner. I
did try a new cable. The drives are not in the bios, and obviously not
in windows. I left the power supply connected during the install,
though I did hit the switch. Anybody had issues like this?


Dream Operator anandtech official a8n-sli thread pg 86

Alright, I posted here on this before with no answer. Took a couple
weeks trying various remedies with no success. Just hoping for some
direction.
After I installed the Zalman northbridge heatsink, I lost my sec. IDE.
Changed cables, reloaded bios, updated to 1004final, reinstalled
windows (not for this reason, but worth a mention), cleared CMOS.
Nothing will bring it back. When installing the heatsink, I kept the
PSU plugged in, but turned of the switch. I left he mobo plugged to
the PSU. The mobo sat on the my case while doing the install, with a
anti-static bag between them.
Any ideas what could cause this? RMA time? Would the board get
inspected to the point of being able to tell that the fan had been
removed and replaced?
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A8N-SLI Deluxe
3500+ (90nm)
2x512mb Corsair XMS 3200xl
Leadtek px 6600gt tdh
160gb Segate Baracuda SATA 1.5
80gb Segate ATA100
M-Audio Delta 66 & Audiophile 24/96
Audigy 2
Antec Sonata w/ stock PSU

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I thought it was a 1 in a million chance that it would have happened to someone else but here it is
maybe we both nicked a trace on the m/b or something...just odd how same thing happened to both of us while doing the same thing to our boards

fedex just came with my new board so i guess i'll fire it up and see how loud the chip fan is on this 1
thanks
Glenn

Clay Tay Mar 01, 2005, 04:03pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Asus A8N-SLI FAQ
> ASUS's recommendation is 128KB for performance disk usage. But in the NVIDIA's nforce manual, it seems to suggest 64KB, and then came along Mike, he said 4KB and to trust him on this because he has his set to that, and it's faster than scuzzy. Heck, it even shows up as SCSI in the BIOS!

I trust ASUS and NVIDA's, but who the hell is Mike? Just kidding, you've been the man. I'll give that 4kb block a try, but first I need to buy partition magic or I'll redo my entire gig since I was planning on that anyway after I am done with some OC experiments.

I will download the VOPTXP program and do some benchmarking on my HDD later.

Speaking of OC earlier, I did go through your page 16 tuning last night and I was able to bring my single eVGA 6800GT to 416/1.14. Ran the 3DMark05 and got 5609 (previously was 4803). One thing I noticed was the CPU Test score went down to 4482 (previously was 4520). I think it has something to do with not tinkering with the CPU & Mem settings. I had some problems with NTune, when I tried to retrieve the previously saved setting, my system would just be frozen. It was getting really really late last night, and so I couldn't pursuit further. Will see if I get the time to continue that tonight, i.e. if my wife won't start to complain about it! :)

Kudos to you, Mike!

Clay

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Edited: Mar 01, 2005, 04:51pm EST

 
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Hello, Clay,

Mike is not wrong ... Asus is not wrong ... the problem is in the interpretation of the word "Performance" ... :)

I have been running RAID0 configurations since the days of the Promise 20265 chip, and there is a trade off in stripe size between throughput (e.g., Performance) and speed (e.g., how fast does it load). Although the words seem similar they really are different.

If you're streaming lots of data per read or write request, then large stripes (e.g., 128K = Performance) would be the size to use. People who do lots of video editting would use this stripe size.

But if you're streaming lots of read/write requests for relatively small amounts of data, then small stripes (e.g., 4K/8K = speed) would be the size to use. Database servers would use this stripe size.

I play internet games a lot so I get a mix of disc I/O requests. Lots of read requests to load configs and programs and also some read requests for large texture files.

In EQ2, I zone (i.e., travel from one gaming area to another) faster with a 32K stripe than I do with a 64K stripe because more data is "paralleled" on the two drives with the smaller stripe size.

I see similar results whenever I defrag my game drive with Raxco's PerfectDisk 7.0+. I defrag faster with 32K stripes than I do with 64K stripes.

This is on an A8N-SLI Deluxe with an FX-55, 2x512M Ballistix memory, twin eVGA 6800GTs in SLI mode and two 74G WD Raptors on the nVidia controller.

I saw the same thing happen with my old rig. An A7N8X-E Deluxe with an XP3200 Barton, 2x512M Ballistix memory, one eVGA 6800GT AGP and two 36G WD Raptors on a SIL3112 controller.

In other words, you have to set the stripe size based on how you plan to use your PC ... but having read Mike's posts, I would almost guarantee he is more correct than Asus is.

On the other hand, if you don't defrag your RAID array on a regular basis, it doesn't really matter what size the stripe is ... :)

Hope this helps ...

Whizzz AKA: SLI Scientist@Work Mar 01, 2005, 04:55pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Edited: Mar 01, 2005, 05:22pm EST

 
>> Re: Asus A8N-SLI FAQ
Dear Clay,

I think it has something to do with not tinkering with the CPU & Mem settings. I had some problems with NTune, when I tried to retrieve the previously saved setting, my system would just be frozen. It was getting really really late last night, and so I couldn't pursuit further. Will see if I get the time to continue that tonight, i.e. if my wife won't start to complain about it!


I think it has something to do with not tinkering with the CPU & Mem settings.

>>>Yes, Nvidia Ntune is just the max optimized, border line between errors and no errors (some Freezes). You can improve from there, usually a small drop in video frequencies and an increase in cpu, FSB - HTT and some playing with the timings. Ntune is the middle. Just remember that Ntune did some registry tweaks for your cards and it does help, a lot.

if my wife won't start to complain about it!

>>>I know exactly what you mean. lol

Mike :)

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Edited: Mar 02, 2005, 07:41am EST

 
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The only thing I don't like about using higher K clusters is the fact that EX: on a RAID0 Raptor Approx MAX 148 GIG you lose 2.5 GIG's of space (Wasted Space) non usable. When you buy these drives you want to get the max for your money, this is why I chose 4K at all times (very little waste). On the same system with 4K clusters you lose 130 MB. 4 K - 8K - 16K - 32K - 64K - 128K, they're all OK. OK. lol

Being on NTFS you can have clusters as low as 512 K with just 15 MB of waste. With a couple of good sticks of DDR 400 1 Gig (130 MB/s) you get good speeds with 2 Gigs DUAL Channel I get (260 MB/s) you double your drive speed. I'm very happy with 260 MB/s transfer rates right now, and it really doesn't matter what size my clusters are set at, with my FX 55 the data will move.
Oh forgot to mention, way less defragraging.of all the data, and usually default cluster size is 4 K after installing RAID0 on NTFS..


Mike :)

PS: You're a great crew, and this is a great forum!

Whizzz AKA: SLI Scientist@Work Mar 01, 2005, 06:05pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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but having read Mike's posts, I would almost guarantee he is more correct than Asus is.


Lol on that one!

Mike :)

Robert louis Mar 01, 2005, 06:16pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> my Harddive is 1.5Gb/s SLI motherboard can go to 3Gb/s - how?

ok i have
1 x 200GB Seagate Barracuda 7200.7 SATA <--this dive only goes up to 1.5Gb/sec

if i install another one of these barracuda how do i make it go to 3Gb/s???

will Raid make it go faster? or buying an additional drive is a waste of money (i dont really need an extra 200GB but i need performance)

Whizzz AKA: SLI Scientist@Work Mar 01, 2005, 06:32pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Edited: Mar 01, 2005, 06:35pm EST

 
>> Re: Asus A8N-SLI FAQ
1 x 200GB Seagate Barracuda 7200.7 SATA <--this dive only goes up to 1.5Gb/sec

The maximum your drive can go is 150 MB/s External Data Transfer

Yes, if you install one more drive in RAID0 it will be faster, and if you have dual channel DDR RAM in place, it will increase your speed even more.

Mike :)

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>> Re: Asus A8N-SLI FAQ
forgot to provide you guys with my spec


Asus A8N SLI Deluxe
Athlon 64 FX 55
1GB Corsair DDR (TWINX1024-3200XL) DDR
200GB Seagate Barracuda 7200.7 SATA (will get another if it makes things go faster)
Winfast 6600 GT Extreme
case: thermeltake tsunami dream

Robert louis Mar 01, 2005, 06:36pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Asus A8N-SLI FAQ
1 x 200GB Seagate Barracuda 7200.7 SATA <--this dive only goes up to 1.5Gb/sec
>>The maximum your drive can go is 150 MB/s SORRY! Giga BIts
>>Yes, if you install one more drive in RAID0 it will be faster, and if you have dual channel DDR RAM in place, it will increase your speed even more.

***** how much faster will it go? is it really worth it for an extra $170AUD? (the space i dont need performance will it do much?)

Simon Lu Mar 01, 2005, 06:41pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Mike:
Here are the test results on my RAM in Super PI:
2.5-2-2-6 2T "NOT EXACT IN ROUND" error right away,did it again , gave me "NOT CONVERGENT IN SQR05" error right away,
2.5-2-2-5 2T 34m 52s loop 21 FINISHED error " NOT EXACT IN ROUND"
2.5-2-2-5 1T 6m 48s loop 4 FINISHED error " NOT EXACT IN ROUND"
2-2-2-5 2T 1 m 53s loop 2 FINISHED error "NOT CONVERGENT IN SQR05"
CPU AMD 3000+ (201 x 9 = 1089Mhz)
RAM Trc 11 and DRAM IDLE TIMER 16 (512 X 2 on blue slot)
Lu

Whizzz AKA: SLI Scientist@Work Mar 01, 2005, 06:46pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Robert,

Yes it's worth it, up to two drives is good, you will see. Anything over 4 and you will start to lose performance as the drive system will saturate and be a larger burden on the processing, I/O.

Mike :)

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Simon,

Not good bro!

You have Corsair C2PL right?

No going over 2.5-3-3-6 1T.

This will probably stop your BSOD.

Mike :)


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Mike:
This really blows.......should i wait for new BIOS or go with new RAM?
anybody else with this RAM??

Lu

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Hey! Look at the bright side, no more errors!

Is your chip an AMD Athlon 3000+, AMD 64 Bit 3000+? I'm not sure.DOH stupid question, my wife was bugging me. lol

Mike :)

Simon Lu Mar 01, 2005, 07:09pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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AMD 939 64 bit 3000+
i will wait on your Gskill report and will go from there, 300$ right?

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Yeah, 140.00 USD each kit 256 X 4. Total 1GIG

http://www.gskill.com/pc4400-2.5-3-3-7-pc3200-tccd-2-2-2-5-dc.html

You're not overclocked either right now right?

I would consider some overclock now that the RAM issue is ressolved.

Mike :)


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