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Alkemyst Darkened Mar 02, 2005, 09:41am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Asus A8N-SLI FAQ
The whole 190GB vs 200GB has nothing to do with this FAQ, please take it to the low-tech areas

This is noob arena stuff...200GB is based on 1000K = 1MB, when in reality it's 1024K....even then it's usually rounded up. you are looking at 3% loss.

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dr dr Mar 02, 2005, 11:43am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Dan Wardle Mar 02, 2005, 01:28pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Have had my System for a few weeks now with no problems (Well except one which I will share below)

System is as follows

3500+ Newcastle
2 x eVGA GF6800GT
1 Gig (Dual 512) Crucial Ram (Not sure exact specs)

Every once in awhile like when I go to minimize something or maximize, My screen will just go black, comp stays running and seems like everything works, but I just reboot and comes back on fine. Just wondering if anyone has had a similar problem. I have not upgraded to the 1004 bios yet. Using 1003 at the moment.

[Kain] Mar 02, 2005, 01:49pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> RAID issues?
Hi there. I am conidering upgrading from my ASUS A7N8X-Deluxe MoBo to the ASUS A8N-SLI. I don't plan on using the SLI because I am more interested in getting the 4 on-board SATA channels.

The A7N8X-D is a pile of crap when it comes to SATA. I bought the 4-channel RAID controller card from SIIG in hopes of erecting a RAID 0+1. Apparently that MoBo does not play well with RAID controller cards. It keeps trashing the data. The only way it works reliably is to attach drive as singles with no RAID. I recently created a mirrored set on the controller card, resulting in intermittent IO issues.

SO, my question is has anybody had problems with a RAID 0+1 configuration on the A8N-SLI? I so desperately want to have a stable system for a change! If there's another AMD socket MoBo that offers as many great features, 4 SATA channels, and fewer issues, please gove me your recommendation.

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Dan,

Every once in awhile like when I go to minimize something or maximize, My screen will just go black, comp stays running and seems like everything works, but I just reboot and comes back on fine. Just wondering if anyone has had a similar problem. I have not upgraded to the 1004 bios yet. Using 1003 at the moment

>>>Are you overclocked, where and by how much?

Mike :)

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Edited: Mar 02, 2005, 03:24pm EST

 
>> Re: Asus A8N-SLI FAQ
Kain,

The A7N8X-D is a pile of crap when it comes to SATA. I bought the 4-channel RAID controller card from SIIG in hopes of erecting a RAID 0+1. Apparently that MoBo does not play well with RAID controller cards.

>>>I ran a Terra Byte from my A7N8X-D with a Promise Fast Trak TX 150 4 Channel SATA RAID card RAID 0+1 and had no problems, well, none that I couldn't fix. Yes it trashed my data once! But with a fresh install of XP with card and drivers in place, it never did it again.

Take a look at the board and drives here;

Put the http:// in front of this address in your web browser.

copy and paste this after the http://
ca.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/thellendfamily@rogers.com/my_photos

Look at the photo album 2005-02-19, you will see the setup of my server.


The reason for this is that the forum does not accept the @ sign in a web address and it shows up very screwy.

Mike :)

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Edited: Mar 02, 2005, 03:40pm EST

 
>> Re: Asus A8N-SLI FAQ
Robert louis

Yeah, take it to the noob section man! lol

There's 8 bits to a byte, (sounds like a snack I buy at the store, bits and bytes)
1000 bytes = 1 KB
1000 KB = 1 MB
1000 MB = 1 Gig

lol

Mike :)

Drakan Mar 02, 2005, 03:35pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Edited: Mar 02, 2005, 05:14pm EST

 
>> Re: Asus A8N-SLI FAQ
Mike, Simon, and others with memory performance issues ...

<Puts on his fire-retardant asbestos suit>

I hope this has not been discussed before. If it has, I apologize in advance ...

I am running 2x512M Crucial Ballistix in the A1, B1 (blue) slots at DDR400 with 2-2-10-2; 1T command settings and I am running reliably. Prime95 torture ran overnight without problems. I play EQ2 and Doom 3 in SLI mode all the time (when I am not working that is) and never crash or BSOD in EQ2; Doom 3 is another story.

The 2-2-2- timings are for speed; the -10- timing is to optimize bandwidth. I got these memory timings from a http://www.anandtech.com Athlon64 memory review published about a month ago.

The only memory that runs consistently faster than Ballistix at DDR400 is OCZ PC3200 Platinum Rev 2; but Ballistix runs faster than OCZ at DDR488 settings ... so take your pick.

If you check the Asus site, you will see that ASUS has recently added Ballistix to their approved memory list. This stuff works ... and I hope you all don't mind (too much) if I sound a bit like our forum host on this particular issue ... :)

1G memory DIMMs don't work as well as 512M DIMMs do in Athlon64 motherboards because you have to relax the 1T command timing to 2T ... which makes the memory run quite a bit slower ... so you OC the memory which defeats the purpose of the 2T command timing because the memory can't react fast enough ... so your system becomes unreliable.

Also, 4x512M DIMMs suffer from the same 2T command timing issue ... except for just the right combination of DIMM sticks running at DDR400 ... I think the OCZ Platinum Rev 2. was the only memory to successfully and consistently perform in the 2-2-10-2; 1T configuration on an Athlon64 nForce3/nForce4 motherboard.

Last, and you all can verify this with the cpuZ information tool from http://www.cpuid.com, when the DRAM configuration in the 1004 BIOS uses AUTO settings, it does not use the SPD settings in your DIMM sticks, as you might think it should; rather, the BIOS uses hard-coded 3-3-8-3; 2T command timings to run your memory.

The hard-coded DRAM configuration in the 1004 BIOS just might be a contributor to some of the memory problems some are experiencing. May I suggest you use cpuZ to verify that both DIMMs are using the same SPD settings and then use those settings in the DRAM configuration?

And do I have to say, "If the SPD timings in your DIMM sticks differ, send them back; they are not a matched pair."? Nope, didn't think I would have to ... :)

Hope this helps ... :)

<Ducks to avoid the flaming replies>


Whizzz AKA: SLI Scientist@Work Mar 02, 2005, 04:57pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Edited: Mar 02, 2005, 05:29pm EST

 
>> Re: Asus A8N-SLI FAQ
Drakan,

Most of what you discussed here, in your most recent and previous posts, has been mentioned in other posts but in a different way, and maybe not all at once.

This is a forum, and the purpose of a forum is for people to exchange opinions and ideas on a particular issue(s).

What one person might not have picked up in a certain post, that same person could very well pick up in the next, such as yours.

Everybody is entitled to voice his or her opinions here, and we appreciate your input.

Mike :)

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Edited: Mar 02, 2005, 05:16pm EST

 
>> Re: Asus A8N-SLI FAQ
About sound cards ...

If you are using a PCI slot sound card, any brand that needs an IRQ, make sure you put the card in PCI slot 2. This is especially true if you are running two graphics cards in SLI mode.

You cannot use the other PCI slots because 1 and 3 share interrupts with the PCIe graphics card slots.

The ASUS user guide (pg 2-25 ... or thereabouts) illustrates PCI slot 1 sharing interrupts with PCIe graphics slot 1 (blue); but what it does NOT show is that PCI slot 3 shares interrupts with PCIe graphics slot 2 (black).

I found this out the hard way by looking in Device Manager (View by Type) after my rig started behaving badly.

I moved the sound card from PCI slot 3 to PCI slot 2 to correct the problem. Now none of my devices share an IRQ with anything else.

The only down-side is that I cannot use the SIL3114 controller anymore ... but I had that Disabled in the BIOS anyway. As Sandor and Mike have said ... why use a 150MByte interface when a 3GByte interface already exists. And as Mike (or Sandor) said, two 74G WD Raptors in a RAID0 array will saturate the PCI bus during a read-burst operation ... this is not a good thing for your PC ... trust me on this.

So, the bottom-line is, you cannot configure the A8N-SLI to run eight SATA drives; two graphics cards in SLI mode, and a SoundBlaster card. Well, you could ... but it would not run very well for very long ... :)

FYI, after I moved the sound card, my EQ2 frame rates went up by a significant amount and the sound did not "stutter" as it had been doing.

Hope this helps ...


Drakan Mar 02, 2005, 05:12pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Asus A8N-SLI FAQ
Mike,

Thanks ... just trying to help out.

I searched before I posted, but got answers for every topic and could not tell which of them were under this FAQ.

I'm a noob here, so I don't want to offend any of the more experienced posters and certainly don't wish to sound like I am critiqueing the fine work I have found here.

My own rig went together rather smoothly because I took the time to read (most of) the posts here before I started building it.

Hope this helps ...


jdr Mar 02, 2005, 05:43pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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> Can someone explain the benefits of going for RAID array
> >>>Read the last two pages of the forum, I just explained it all.

What about the testing of RAID 0 done here?
http://www.anandtech.com/storage/showdoc.html?i=2101

Shows little or no performance increase with RAID 0.

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Edited: Mar 03, 2005, 02:16am EST

 
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Zhen-Jock Lau Mar 02, 2005, 07:06pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Well, I've set up my system as below:

Asus SLI Deluxe Mobo (1004 bios)
Thermaltake Purepower 560W PSU
AMD Athlon s-939 3000+
4x512MB Corsair DDR400 Value Select RAM
Leadtek Winfast PX6600GT TDH
WD Raptor 74GB

And my problem is that everytime I try and install the NVidia / Leadtek video drivers, the whole screen will turn black and I will be unable to boot into Windows unless I boot into safe mode and remove the drivers manually.
I've tried a fresh install of Windows and it still doesn't work. I've even tested the video card on another system to ensure that it isn't a video card problem. It works perfectly fine on another machine. Tried just using one stick of RAM and rotating the ram sticks over the slots, but it still doesn't solve the problem. Doubt it's a PSU problem, as as you can see, I've already stripped the system down to a bare minimum. Could it be a problem with the motherboard? I was thinking of getting the motherboard switched for a new one but I thought I'd get a 2nd opinion on this since I have to send my mobo back to M'sia and I'm currently in Australia atm.

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Edited: Mar 02, 2005, 07:13pm EST

 
>> Re: Asus A8N-SLI FAQ
Zhen-Jock Lau

Download 66.93 drivers, don't use your video cd drivers, this is assuming you are.

Mike :)

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Edited: Mar 02, 2005, 07:39pm EST

 
>> Re: Asus A8N-SLI FAQ
Sander,

Is there anyway you can improve on the search methods of your site? I know that because the Subject is A8N-SLI most of the time, your search works, I just mean to isolate it to a search in this section.

I noticed that when you do perform a search, it takes you to the main A8N-SLI FAQ and not individual posts within the A8N-SLI FAQ. It would help people find specific literature within this section.

Basically, search here, get an answer form here.

Mike :)

PS: This section has flourished to one of the largest FAQ sections "in the least amount of time" of your site and needs the DELUXE treatment. Lol

Leo Lambert Mar 02, 2005, 07:25pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Asus A8N-SLI FAQ
71.84 BETA Drivers are now available from Nvidia and the good news is Nvidia through these drivers now support 60 new SLI Applications and 2 New SLI rendering modes. These are the drivers i've been waiting for. :)

Download them here.
http://www.nzone.com/object/nzone_downloads_rel70betadriver.html

I have 2 problems with these drivers though, one is it won't let me overclock at all (not even 1Mhz) and i used to run them dead set stable at Ultra speeds (I have 2 6800GT's) and the other is my Idle Temps have gone up to 66c and 63c, they were in the mid to high 40's before.

Check out the new list of SLI games here.
http://www.nzone.com/object/nzone_sli_certifiedapps.html

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>> Re: Asus A8N-SLI FAQ
More drivers, GREAT!

Mike


Zhen-Jock Lau Mar 02, 2005, 07:47pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Asus A8N-SLI FAQ
I've tried the 66.93 drivers from Nvidia already, heck I've even tried the beta 71+ drivers as well.

What makes me think it's a hardware problem is the fact that when I attempted to install Windows XP x64, I get the same black screen problem during the setup phase when it tries to detect the devices on the machine. I assume it's trying to detect the video card or something at that point.


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